As we were discussing practitioner's workflow, I have identified a few
requirements from your mail.
Please have a look and point out or add if I am missing something (I
am sure I am) :)
Once done, we will move onto identifying the packages.
Then we will review the licences and submit for packaging and
subsequent inclusion in fedora repo.
Thanks for all your help.
I know we are (very) late to the game but here it is anyway. If you want to
follow us and be kept in the loop without constantly monitoring the blog or
mailing list just follow us on identi.ca
> Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 10:08:51 +0100
> From: Sebastian Hilbert<sebastian.hilbert(a)gmx.net>
> Subject: [fedora-medical] GNU vor vets
> To: FedoraMedical<medical-sig(a)lists.fedorahosted.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> Just came across a nice listing of free/open source medical software.
> Since there was a question if GNUmed was usable for vets here are two entries
> for vets.
> Sebastian Hilbert
The first one (Animal Shelter), I made a how to in Greek
(http://forum.greeklug.gr/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=38). I started to
translate the first one in Greek.
There's another one called EVETTE. I made also a how to in Greek
Both are in debian.
I think there are packages for Fedora.
Regarding where you can find them, just click on the links inside the posts.
To put some meat behind the effort to create a medical linux distribution I
have started to produce a number of live media.
Currently available are:
1.) Debian based Live-CD (Xfce-based)
2.) openSUSE based Live-CD (KDE4-based)
3.) openSUSE based virtual machine (vmware/virtualbox)
4.) openSUSE based disk image
The openSUSE downloads will expire in 7 days. Unless I find some hoster where
I can store the images I cannot continously provide them. Suggestions ?
All versions include a fully configured GNUmed 0.6.2 that can access a local
(as in included and running) GNUmed database.
These images are only proof of concept and are intended to serve as a nucleus
for a medical linux distribution (that means packaging and including more
Have a look and identify areas that can benefit from a concerted effort (e.g.
wallpaper, bootsplash, firefox plugins)
is a starting point for a list of all the software that exists.
One could build on that.
How practical would it be to create a tool which converts things
packaged each different way into some common package?
Let's imagine that we picked ebuild as our common format.
How hard would it be to write a tool to
convert RPM packages into ebuild?
----- "Sebastian Hilbert" <sebastian.hilbert(a)gmx.net> wrote:
> From: "Sebastian Hilbert" <sebastian.hilbert(a)gmx.net>
> To: debian-med(a)lists.debian.org, "FedoraMedical" <medical-sig(a)lists.fedorahosted.org>, opensuse-medical(a)opensuse.org
> Sent: Monday, February 8, 2010 5:07:07 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [fedora-medical] Metaproject: Debian Med tasks
> Hi all,
> 1.) software reagarding medical/scientific tasks are spread all over
> the web.
> Effort has been undertaken to aggerate those in one place. Personally
> I have
> lost track. There are projects at freshmeat, sourceforge, savannah,
> and whatnot.
> I personally feel it is up to the project maintainers to make their
> public. Sure it would help if there was this one place where all
> could come together but this is the missing link so far
> 2.) I did not find GNUmed listed at Debian-med any more. Did I just
> it or miss something ?
> 3.) There seems to be an unofficial Debian package of openemr you
> might want
> to take a look at
> Summary: Visibility of the great software and packaging effort of FOSS
> software is far from ideal. This severly hinders your chances to get
> picked up
> by users.
> Everyone and their uncle has an app store today. All but FOSS
> software. Which
> is a shame. I mean first we create an kick ass alternative software.
> Then we
> either do not package it at all and require users to have Jedi powers
> to get
> it running or we package it in far too many formats and distributions
> so that
> a single prospective user does not have the slightest chance to get it
> installed. Why the hell do I need deb (Debian/Ubuntu etc.) rpm
> (individual rpm
> indeed for openSUSE, Fedora, Mandriva etc.) ebuild and whatnot ?
> Come on I am a software developer. Currently I spend more time
> software then developing. This got to change. I know this is good for
> a flame
> war. Please don't. Let us find ways or maybe an infrastructure where
> from various distributions can collaborate.
> Tell you what. The minute the Linux/FOSS community decides on one
> format we will see adoption rate go up. Distributions could
> concentrate on
> innovation rather then packaging and software developers would be
> relieved of
> the packaging job and hunting around for the right place to send the
> Medical-sig mailing list
I haven't figured out if the aim of the SIG is to go for a Spin at
some stage, but if it were indeed so, is there work underway to
identify a set of packages that would form a part of it ?
Sent from Pune, MH, India
---------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht ----------
Betreff: Re: Fedora medical sig /openSUSE medical
Datum: Mittwoch 10 Februar 2010
Von: Charles Plessy <plessy(a)debian.org>
Le Mon, Feb 08, 2010 at 03:46:01PM +0100, Sebastian Hilbert a écrit :
Thanks, Sebastian, I added these links to the DebianMed wiki page.
Debian Med packaging team,
Tsurumi, Kanagawa, Japan
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There is one thing most of us have in common. It is the wish or goal to create
a computer operating system tailored to the needs of medical professionals ,
biochemists physiotherapists and many more.
We all like free software. Recently a number of groups have formed to tackle
the same problem.
- the Fedora special interest group
- the openSUSE medical group
- the Debian-med group
- the linuxforclinics project
While diversification is natural it splits resources as well. As a software
developer and release manager for GNUmed I kindly ask anyone active in these
groups to stand together and get it started.
As a first project I propose work on the distribution independent artwork.
a) a boot splash screen that looks adequate for a business, healthcare setting
b) a wallpaper that reflect the healthcare setting (please no red cross and if
possible no people in white coats or the like) Be creative.
If you can please get artwork communities involved. Post to their forums. Make
the aware of the effort. Thanks.
As for the infrastructure:
I know that Debian-med has a subversion repository which could host such
things. I recommend agianst starting another mailing list just yet. There is
one each for all projects already.
As Andreas from Debian med put it. The goal is to refrain from starting yet
another distribution but instead be better then what is there so your work
will be the natural choice.
Your help is greatly appreciated.