Yes, this is what I have expected, it's really closed market, and that makes me :S sad. However, I have seen FOSS softwares, that are able to provide EKG, bloodpressure, and such analytic purposes. I have seen also in hacker sites, where you can turn simple webcam into a microscope. So, if needs a certification that IMHO doesn't close out that the software inside be closed source, right? The question is the following: is it possible to set/make an computer and a kit eg. USB accessories in a box that helps to doctors, ER units? I mean, diagnostic software tools in a box... and some USB wired sensors, and such. I understand the concerns, and the problems, but I feel that there is a lot of potential.


2013/10/16 Ian Malone <ibmalone@gmail.com>
On 15 October 2013 20:02, Sebastian Hilbert <sebastian.hilbert@gmx.net> wrote:
> Hi all,
> Am Dienstag, 15. Oktober 2013, 19:13:49 schrieb Zoltan Hoppar:
>> Hi Mario,
>> Yes, usually here at Hungary, I really miss one lightweight computer, that
>> would be usable not only for direct communication, else maybe for quick
>> analyses as tons of stuff can be plugged to USB. I would like to come
>> closer to this problem to have an distribution, softwares that provides a
>> tiny lab (EKG, EEG, carbon monoxide sensors, and many more) for emergency
>> units to their field kit, and gives direct contact to doctors, or other
>> specialists. With that, I think possibly we can replace with open source
>> based softwares 4-5 or more devices with only a single computer.
>> What do you think, you see any potential in this idea? Can we provide open
>> source alternative?
> I am a doctor in Germany and I have trouble understanding what you are after.
> Do you plan on replacing existing medical devices ? Good luck with that. All
> medical devices need to be certified. OpenSource for certified devices ? What a
> dream.

That was my initial reaction too, but on reflection medical devices
actually have less arduous development than drugs do. You could
conceivably do this with a university or research hospital with a
clinical trials unit behind you, get the software and candidate
hardware in place then let them deal with the required testing and

IEEE ran an interesting article a while back about how outdated lots
of medical hardware is (they took defibrillators as an example).

> However you should attempt to create a software platform for vendors to build
> upon. It takes more then a spin. Think about hardening the software for the
> hardware device. Optimize for boot speed. You don't have 30 seconds for that
> thing to boot. I know that systems are sold that are even worse. But those
> systems are made by rich companies.
> Starting points
> [1] http://qdot.github.io/libomron/
> [2] http://mdcf.santos.cis.ksu.edu/
> [3] http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/mobilecg-accessible-clinical-grade-electrocardiography
> [4]
> http://repository.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1525&context=cis_papers
> If you manage to create a software stack that runs on some tablet from factor
> device, boots the operating system up in 3 seconds, runs an EKG viewer for [3]
> , runs GNUmed [5] you are well ahead of the crowd.
> If you then manage to build a solution that makes available in almost realtime
> the EKG and blood pressure information to a nearby hospital via wireless
> uplink you are leading the crowd.
> [5] wiki.gnumed.org

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