PatientOS

[Stathis Iosifidis (aka diamond_gr)]

Hello,

I downloaded PatientOS just to check what's that. Well, I didn't install 
it but I checked their page http://www.patientos.org/ and the 
screenshots. I found out that they have pets as patients. So I guess it 
can be used both for humans and animals.

I checked the licence and it says GNU GPL.

Does anybody knows what's that?
Regards,
Stathis

[Simon Slater]

On Sat, 2010-03-06 at 23:04 +0200, Stathis wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I downloaded PatientOS just to check what's that. Well, I didn't install 
> it but I checked their page http://www.patientos.org/ and the 
> screenshots. I found out that they have pets as patients. So I guess it 
> can be used both for humans and animals.

I'll check this one out too.
> I checked the licence and it says GNU GPL.

dunno
> Does anybody knows what's that?
> Regards,
> Stathis

[special visitor]

Hello everyone,
I entered the above mentioned site and I took the demo (flash-based0 tour of
the Patient-OS. From what I saw, it is referring to human patients (and not
to animals) and it apparently gives some particular importance to the needs
of chronic patients (i.e. which is to say, people that need to be seen
repeatedly, for years, for the same underlying problem).
I also discovered recently another Web page
http://oscarcanada.org/about-oscar which demonstrates another Open Source
EMR software, coming from Canada. It seems that it is "loaded" with many
prizes so far. Does anyone know anything about this?

Constantine

2010/3/15 Simon Slater
> On Sat, 2010-03-06 at 23:04 +0200, Stathis wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I downloaded PatientOS just to check what's that. Well, I didn't install
> > it but I checked their page http://www.patientos.org/ and the
> > screenshots. I found out that they have pets as patients. So I guess it
> > can be used both for humans and animals.
>
> I'll check this one out too.
> > I checked the licence and it says GNU GPL.
>
> dunno
> > Does anybody knows what's that?
> > Regards,
> > Stathis
>
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[Sebastian Hilbert]

Am Montag 15 März 2010 07:12:29 schrieb special visitor:
> Hello everyone,
> I entered the above mentioned site and I took the demo (flash-based0 tour
> of the Patient-OS. From what I saw, it is referring to human patients (and
> not to animals) and it apparently gives some particular importance to the
> needs of chronic patients (i.e. which is to say, people that need to be
> seen repeatedly, for years, for the same underlying problem).
> I also discovered recently another Web page
> http://oscarcanada.org/about-oscar which demonstrates another Open Source
> EMR software, coming from Canada. It seems that it is "loaded" with many
> prizes so far. Does anyone know anything about this?

I don't know PatientOS but I have done some research on Oscar.
It is in use in Canada and some other countries. It is developed and targeted 
at one or two provinces of Canada. It is actively developed as far as I know.

The code is a mix of various languages, databases and other projects. It seems 
to be done in a works now approach. It it webbased (tomcat war file).

Featurewise it seems to offer what a Canadian doctor needs. I am not sure the 
interface is available in different languages but I could be wrong on this.

It has not made into Debian yet as it is not easily packaged. However it is 
worth packaging as it is one of the few EMR that is there, now.

There seems to be a vmware image availalble to download and try.

Sebastian

[special visitor]

Some more feedback on OSCAR (*O*pen *S*ource *C*linical *A*pplication
*R*esource)
from what I found out after a bit of web navigation:
It is indeed a web-based application and it is accessed and managed through
a web browser window. It is downloadable from *Sourceforge* (
http://sourceforge.net/projects/oscarmcmaster/files/ ) as *tar.gz files*. It
is described in Sourceforge pages as: "...from McMaster University is a
web-based EMR (electronic medical record) system developed for academic
primary care clinics yet suitable in specialty and non-teaching practices."
It has apparently some following in the Spanish speaking world as well.
There is a proper blog from the Argentinian (!)  followers ("....OSCAR
funciona básicamente como un servidor web, el cual debe ser instalado en una
máquina con Linux...." http://oscarcanadaes.blogspot.com/ ).
However, if one takes a look at peoples opinions in Sourceforge:

Ratings and Reviews

- Thumbs up: *5*
   - *Thumbs down: **2*

*71%* of 7 http://sourceforge.net/projects/oscarmcmaster/reviews users
recommend this project

- * Thumbs down *
   Extremely convoluted codebase, slow updates, lack of distinct bug
   tracking or bug reporting capability, old-world web application design,
   excessive system requirements, and suffers from browser-specific bugs.
   Firefox printing issues, Safari form
(morehttp://sourceforge.net/projects/oscarmcmaster/#
   …)
    posted by anonymous 59 days ago
    If you'd like to rate this review, please log
inhttps://sourceforge.net/account/login.php?return_to=/projects/oscarmcmaster/.

- * Thumbs down *

very poorly documented, too many bugs,
    posted by anonymous 28 days ago
    If you'd like to rate this review, please log
inhttps://sourceforge.net/account/login.php?return_to=/projects/oscarmcmaster/.

- * Thumbs up *

Great program
    posted by anonymous 117 days ago
    If you'd like to rate this review, please log
inhttps://sourceforge.net/account/login.php?return_to=/projects/oscarmcmaster/.

Maybe, I'll give it a try and see what it's all about...After all, the worse
that may happen is that it does not meet my exact needs.... [?]
> I don't know PatientOS but I have done some research on Oscar.
> It is in use in Canada and some other countries. It is developed and
> targeted
> at one or two provinces of Canada. It is actively developed as far as I
> know.
>
> The code is a mix of various languages, databases and other projects. It
> seems
> to be done in a works now approach. It it webbased (tomcat war file).
>
> Featurewise it seems to offer what a Canadian doctor needs. I am not sure
> the
> interface is available in different languages but I could be wrong on this.
>
> It has not made into Debian yet as it is not easily packaged. However it is
> worth packaging as it is one of the few EMR that is there, now.
>
> There seems to be a vmware image availalble to download and try.
>
> Sebastian
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[Sebastian Hilbert]

Am Montag 15 März 2010 18:23:46 schrieb special visitor:
> Some more feedback on OSCAR (*O*pen *S*ource *C*linical *A*pplication
> *R*esource)
> from what I found out after a bit of web navigation:
> It is indeed a web-based application and it is accessed and managed through
> a web browser window. It is downloadable from *Sourceforge* (
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/oscarmcmaster/files/ ) as *tar.gz files*.
> It is described in Sourceforge pages as: "...from McMaster University is a
> web-based EMR (electronic medical record) system developed for academic
> primary care clinics yet suitable in specialty and non-teaching
> practices." It has apparently some following in the Spanish speaking world
> as well. There is a proper blog from the Argentinian (!)  followers
> ("....OSCAR funciona básicamente como un servidor web, el cual debe ser
> instalado en una máquina con Linux...." http://oscarcanadaes.blogspot.com/
> ).

Well, Oscar was developed at McMaster University. It dates back to a time when 
Turbogears and Django did not exist the way they do today. THe code is a mix 
of static and dynamic html. There is some php mixed with JAVA. Basically it 
was hacked together by a number of programmers but it works :-)

Sure there will be bugs. And those bugs will be harder to fix. But despite 
that code wise it does not meet current standards there is hardly any other 
program that does. One alternative could be openEMR but their codebase is 
dated as well. A rewrite in Ruby was planned but never surfaced.

GNUmed has recently demonstrated in a prototype that its design allows for a 
wxpython interface and a webinterface. So that may be a candidate for a newish 
web framework.

Sebastian Hilbert