Re: [fedora-medical] Amide is now in Fedora Repository.

[susmit shannigrahi]

Hi Andy,

>  Sorry, but I would prefer if you did not push this into Fedora at
> the
>  current time. 
Sorry to know that.

>  AMIDE is dependent on both the dcmtk and xmedcon libraries that are
> not
>  currently in Fedora. Even though you can build amide without these
>  libraries, it's close to useless without these libraries. It'd be like
>  distributing a version of GIMP that couldn't read/write jpeg, png, or tiff.
>  This is not the user experience that I want people to have with this
>  application. I've been holding off on submitting this package myself for
>  that very reason. 
>  There's ongoing work to get DCMTK properly packaged for Fedora.
>  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=573910 
Hmm...so as far as I can see, this is pretty much close to completion. Right?
Do you mind if we push it for now, complete those two packages as soon
as possible and push an update for amide? Getting a package in Fedora
takes it's time and redoing the whole process again would delay things
even more. Let us know what do you think.

>  If somebody wants to take on packaging xmedcon
> (http://xmedcon.sf.net),
>  that'd also be useful. 
I shall open a ticket by tomorrow.
Thanks.


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Amide is now in Fedora Repository.

[Andreas Tille]

On Mon, Feb 07, 2011 at 10:35:27PM -0700, susmit shannigrahi wrote:
>  
>  > AMIDE is dependent on both the dcmtk and xmedcon libraries that are not
>  > currently in Fedora. 
I hope you are aware that both libraries are for years in Debian.  I
have no idea in how far the Debian packaging can be adopted for RPM
packages but I think it is worth mentioning here in case you will be
able avoiding reinventing the wheel.  I'd like to specifically mention
that dcmtk was recently released in a new version and Debian added
the possibility to build dynamic libraries.

Kind regards

       Andreas.

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Amide is now in Fedora Repository.

[Mario Ceresa]

Hello Susmit and Andreas,
I got the message: I'll try to speed up the work on a new version of dcmtk.
I'm sorry it's taking so long, but I'm not an experienced
programmer/contributor and there were a lot of things to learn and so
few spare time on my side :) Anyway, I really like having medical
software in Fedora, and I use it day-by-day. I'm sure that joining
forces will make things spinning faster.

@Susmit: if you open a request for xmedcon I'll review it. Be aware
that, at first sight, there are 4 libraries (Dicom, Nifti, tpc and
jpeg) that we have to refactor out, package and review separately.
Maybe for the dicom part dcmtk can be used and for jpeg the package in
fedora will do, but I don't know right now.

It can take time.

A different approach is to contact Erik Nolf, who has already prepared
a srpm fro Fedora/Centos and ask him if he would maintain/help with
the process for Fedora. He could also be of great help in deciding how
to refactor out the bundled libraries.

Hope this helps,

Mario

On 8 February 2011 06:35, susmit shannigrahi <thinklinux.ssh(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  Hi Andy,
>
> > Sorry, but I would prefer if you did not push this into Fedora at the
> > current time.
>
>  Sorry to know that.
>
> > AMIDE is dependent on both the dcmtk and xmedcon libraries that are not
> > currently in Fedora. Even though you can build amide without these
> > libraries, it's close to useless without these libraries. It'd be like
> > distributing a version of GIMP that couldn't read/write jpeg, png, or tiff.
> > This is not the user experience that I want people to have with this
> > application. I've been holding off on submitting this package myself for
> > that very reason.
>
> > There's ongoing work to get DCMTK properly packaged for Fedora.
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=573910
>
>  Hmm...so as far as I can see, this is pretty much close to completion. Right?
>  Do you mind if we push it for now, complete those two packages as soon
>  as possible and push an update for amide? Getting a package in Fedora
>  takes it's time and redoing the whole process again would delay things
>  even more. Let us know what do you think.
>
> > If somebody wants to take on packaging xmedcon (http://xmedcon.sf.net),
> > that'd also be useful.
>
>  I shall open a ticket by tomorrow.
>  Thanks.
>
>
>  --
>  Regards,
>  Susmit.
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Amide is now in Fedora Repository.

[susmit shannigrahi]

>  @Susmit: if you open a request for xmedcon I'll review it. Be
> aware
>  that, at first sight, there are 4 libraries (Dicom, Nifti, tpc and
>  jpeg) that we have to refactor out, package and review separately.
>  Maybe for the dicom part dcmtk can be used and for jpeg the package in
>  fedora will do, but I don't know right now. 
Oh, thanks a lot.

Xmedcon looks like a licensing nightmare. However, as Andreas pointed
out that xmedcon is in Debian for a long time, they are resolvable.

I am asking the devel list about the procedure for refactoring libraries.

Thanks.



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Amide is now in Fedora Repository.

[Mario Ceresa]

Hello Susmit!
this document can be of interest:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:No_Bundled_Libraries

the procedure is "simple": you modify the  %prep section of the
specfile to physically remove from the sources all the bundled
libraries, and add patches until it compiles and works again with the
already packaged libraries.

If a library has not already been packaged, you'll open a review
request for it and wait till it passes the revision and hits the
repositories.

Please don't get (too much) afraid: it seems more of a daunting task
than it actually is :) and there a lot of wonderful people out there
which will help you with the task.

Yet think at it wisely because it can results in a significant
investment of time...

Hope this helps,

Mario

On 9 February 2011 03:06, susmit shannigrahi <thinklinux.ssh(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
> > @Susmit: if you open a request for xmedcon I'll review it. Be
> aware
> > that, at first sight, there are 4 libraries (Dicom, Nifti, tpc and
> > jpeg) that we have to refactor out, package and review separately.
> > Maybe for the dicom part dcmtk can be used and for jpeg the package in
> > fedora will do, but I don't know right now.
>
>  Oh, thanks a lot.
>
>  Xmedcon looks like a licensing nightmare. However, as Andreas pointed
>  out that xmedcon is in Debian for a long time, they are resolvable.
>
>  I am asking the devel list about the procedure for refactoring libraries.
>
>  Thanks.
>
>
>
>  --
>  Regards,
>  Susmit.
>
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Amide is now in Fedora Repository.

[susmit shannigrahi]

>  Hello Susmit!
>  this document can be of interest:
>
>  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:No_Bundled_Libraries
>
>  the procedure is "simple": you modify the  %prep section of the
>  specfile to physically remove from the sources all the bundled
>  libraries, and add patches until it compiles and works again with the
>  already packaged libraries.
>
>  If a library has not already been packaged, you'll open a review
>  request for it and wait till it passes the revision and hits the
>  repositories. 
I am aware of this part. :) But thanks for the pointers.

>  Please don't get (too much) afraid: it seems more of a daunting
> task
>  than it actually is :) and there a lot of wonderful people out there
>  which will help you with the task. 
As far as I know, this is almost packaged by a friend. There are minor
problems, but that should be easily doable.  Let's see how it goes.

Thanks.



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