Re: [fedora-medical] [opensuse-medical] Calling for help for medical project. How do I create a live cd as I want it?
Le 14 déc. 2011 à 22:20, Stathis Iosifidis (aka diamond_gr) a écrit :
Hello,
Hello,
Like with my precedent mail, I'm ccing to all Medical Linux distro teams because I believe that this discussion can be done in collaboration with all teams (even if the final result will be different for each team). See my precedent mail about a central mailing list.
Next week I'm planing to have the first medical project meeting. I'll inform you about.
Following what mentioned: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-medical/2011-11/msg00007.html
I was searching a way how to create a live cd fully functional.
I think that you will not be able to create a LiveCD with fully functional MySQL, PostGreSQL servers. If you succeed with an installation of these server, data will be lost at each restart.
Assuming that your wishes are: - distributing an easy system for app testing - install and preconfigure medical&related apps - make this fully installable (system and config) to any computer
I suggest to dig around LiveUSB with data persistence instead of digging deeper in LiveCD.
(with a simplification) There are two kinds of LiveUSB: - LiveUSB installator * same as LiveCD installator * install a complete system to your computer using an USBKey, no data persistence. * Usefull in our case but not what you are looking for. - LiveUSB installation * same as a computer installation * Linux is completely installed on an USBKey with all driver needed to process hardware config, * a specific partition is created for the data persistence. * This allows you to create a full OpenSuse/Debian/Ubuntu/Fedora
There is a similar project here:
I'm not a LiveUSB guru but I succeed on create a live usb drive with a 4Go key and ubuntu. Unfortunately, I didn't succeed to boot it from my MacBook, and I didn't go further (install personnal packages and config). It started on a Dell computer.
What do you think about this orientation ? ----- Eric Maeker, MD (Fr) http://www.freemedforms.com http://www.ericmaeker.fr
Hi,
I have no idea whether this mass-cc is helpfull. I just want to mention that debian-live can create images which as far as I know can also be used on USB sticks and by using the metapackages of Debian Med it should be quite simple to make sure all medical applications are installed into this image.
Good luck
Andreas.
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 10:04:13AM +0100, Eric MAEKER wrote:
Le 14 déc. 2011 à 22:20, Stathis Iosifidis (aka diamond_gr) a écrit :
Hello,
Hello,
Like with my precedent mail, I'm ccing to all Medical Linux distro teams because I believe that this discussion can be done in collaboration with all teams (even if the final result will be different for each team). See my precedent mail about a central mailing list. ...
As Andreas mentioned, it's not cross distro issue since all distros have different tools to create live media.
Next week I'm planing to have the first medical project meeting. I'll inform you about.
Following what mentioned: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-medical/2011-11/msg00007.html
I was searching a way how to create a live cd fully functional.
I think that you will not be able to create a LiveCD with fully functional MySQL, PostGreSQL servers. If you succeed with an installation of these server, data will be lost at each restart.
Assuming that your wishes are:
- distributing an easy system for app testing
- install and preconfigure medical&related apps
- make this fully installable (system and config) to any computer
You're right. This media will be easy to test pre-configured applications and those applications will be fully installed after installation. Doctors (people who don't care about computers) want something that works (proprietary or not). If the live media won't work, then they won't test it before install it.
I was testing a lot of things, even with other distros to understand how things work (unfortunately it's not my job to do that). Well, I managed to create an appliance on mint (it works after installation) and I also managed on PCLinuxOS (http://sourceforge.net/projects/pclosmedical/).
As Sebastian mentioned, there's an appliance of GNUMed on SUSE Studio that works. Matt said about the use the "modified files" feature on SUSE Studio. It's something I'll start now and I'll be back soon.
Thanks for your help Stathis
Le 15 déc. 2011 à 11:48, Stathis Iosifidis (aka diamond_gr) a écrit :
As Andreas mentioned, it's not cross distro issue since all distros have different tools to create live media.
You focus too much on the pure IT aspect of the project. Do not forget the medical side which can be shared between the different teams, while I'm not sure that there are many MD is the lists...
If you want to pursue this reflection I'll be pleased to help. ----- Eric Maeker, MD (Fr) http://www.freemedforms.com http://www.ericmaeker.fr
On Thursday, December 15, 2011 11:48:49 AM Stathis Iosifidis (aka diamond_gr) wrote:
As Andreas mentioned, it's not cross distro issue since all distros have different tools to create live media.
I have worked on this for years now and I can tell you this. Aside from all tools and distributions, let alone operating systems there are some common issues.
1.) bootstrap stage 2.) binary stage 3.) runtime stage
No matter what tool you use you have to care about
a) getting a working system which will give you a fully functional EMR (uncluding running database to store data)
b) preserve any data the user puts in during runtime (after booting and surving reboots)
a has been done both for OpenSUSE and Debian. b is a matter of setting it up. There is absolutely no magic to it. Takes only like a week or so to fully understand the different tools and read the documentation. Then you can redo it whenever you like.
Sebastian
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