Already built src rpms

[Ankur Sinha]

Hi folks,

For those involved in packaging for the Medical sig, please do have a
look at the opensuse src rpms[1]. I think just changing the macros to
fit fedora's build system should be enough.

Thanks,
Ankur

[1] http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/medical/openSUSE_11.4/src/

[Christoph Wickert]

Am Montag, den 16.05.2011, 21:46 +0530 schrieb Ankur Sinha:
>  Hi folks,
>  
>  For those involved in packaging for the Medical sig, please do have a
>  look at the opensuse src rpms[1]. I think just changing the macros to
>  fit fedora's build system should be enough. 
There is definitely more to change, for example
      * Group: tags
      * BuildRoot: tags
      * Desktop files
      * Bundled libraries: The size of the packages indicates that many
        sources contain bundled libraries, e.g. openemr bundles
        phpmyadmin. This is strictly forbidden in Fedora.
      * %defattr's
      * changelog formats

Fedora's and OpenSUSE's packaging guidelines are very different because
OpenSUSE just copied ours (even the typos), but as a reviewer or sponsor
I'd like to see everything packaged from scratch with the templates from
rpmdev-newspec. I have looked at some of the files and there are many
that I would refuse to approve in their current state.

If you however do use one of the OpenSUSE spec, please give credit to
those who deserve it. Write at least something like "Initial Fedora
package based on work by Foo Bar for OpenSUSE" as last change log entry
or do not change the changelog at all.

Regards,

[Ankur Sinha]

On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 18:42 +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote:
>  There is definitely more to change, for example
>        * Group: tags
>        * BuildRoot: tags
>        * Desktop files
>        * Bundled libraries: The size of the packages indicates that
>  many
>          sources contain bundled libraries, e.g. openemr bundles
>          phpmyadmin. This is strictly forbidden in Fedora.
>        * %defattr's
>        * changelog formats
>  
>  Fedora's and OpenSUSE's packaging guidelines are very different
>  because
>  OpenSUSE just copied ours (even the typos), but as a reviewer or
>  sponsor
>  I'd like to see everything packaged from scratch with the templates
>  from
>  rpmdev-newspec. I have looked at some of the files and there are many
>  that I would refuse to approve in their current state.
>  
>  If you however do use one of the OpenSUSE spec, please give credit to
>  those who deserve it. Write at least something like "Initial Fedora
>  package based on work by Foo Bar for OpenSUSE" as last change log
>  entry
>  or do not change the changelog at all.
>  
>  Regards,
>  
>   
Hi!

I've created a new spec using rpmdev-newspec, and then used the opensuse
spec as a reference (copied some bits off too). 

I've included the opensuse package src link in my changelog too. 

Regards,
Ankur

[Christoph Wickert]

Am Montag, den 16.05.2011, 22:34 +0530 schrieb Ankur Sinha:
>  On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 18:42 +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote:
>  >
>  > I'd like to see everything packaged from scratch with the templates
>  > from
>  > rpmdev-newspec. I have looked at some of the files and there are many
>  > that I would refuse to approve in their current state.
>  > 
>  > If you however do use one of the OpenSUSE spec, please give credit to
>  > those who deserve it. Write at least something like "Initial Fedora
>  > package based on work by Foo Bar for OpenSUSE" as last change log
>  > entry
>  > or do not change the changelog at all.
>  > 
>  > Regards,
>  > 
>  > 
>  Hi!
>  
>  I've created a new spec using rpmdev-newspec, and then used the opensuse
>  spec as a reference (copied some bits off too). 
>  
>  I've included the opensuse package src link in my changelog too.  
Hi Ankur,

great, this is just what it should be. IMHO the link is not needed (and
I am not sure it is persistent), but please add the name of the original
creator, e.g.
      * Initial Fedora package inspired by work from Foo Bar for
        OpenSUSE
      * Initial Fedora package. Thanks to Foo Bar

Keep up the good work,
Christoph

>  Regards,
>  Ankur
>  
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[Sebastian Hilbert]

Am Montag, 16. Mai 2011, 19:57:23 schrieb Christoph Wickert:
>  Am Montag, den 16.05.2011, 22:34 +0530 schrieb Ankur Sinha:
>  > On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 18:42 +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote:
>  > > I'd like to see everything packaged from scratch with the templates
>  > > from
>  > > rpmdev-newspec. I have looked at some of the files and there are many
>  > > that I would refuse to approve in their current state.
>  > > 
>  > > If you however do use one of the OpenSUSE spec, please give credit to
>  > > those who deserve it. Write at least something like "Initial Fedora
>  > > package based on work by Foo Bar for OpenSUSE" as last change log
>  > > entry
>  > > or do not change the changelog at all.
>  > > 
>  > > Regards,
>  > 
>  > Hi!
>  > 
>  > I've created a new spec using rpmdev-newspec, and then used the opensuse
>  > spec as a reference (copied some bits off too).
>  > 
>  > I've included the opensuse package src link in my changelog too.
>  
>  Hi Ankur,
>  
>  great, this is just what it should be. IMHO the link is not needed (and
>  I am not sure it is persistent), but please add the name of the original
>  creator, e.g.
>        * Initial Fedora package inspired by work from Foo Bar for
>          OpenSUSE
>        * Initial Fedora package. Thanks to Foo Bar
>  
>  Keep up the good work,
>  Christoph 
In my opinion packaging consists of 

a) sorting out dependencies
b) sorting out files to install and location where ot install
c) using the distribution specific methods to achieve the above.

For that reason existing src rpm independent of its source are a big time 
saver. Not making use of the information in the existing spec files (a,b and 
maybe c) is wasting time.

Regards,
Sebastian