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Summary/Minutes from today's irc support sig meeting (2012-02-16)
by Kevin Fenzi 16 Feb '12

16 Feb '12

============================================= #fedora-meeting: IRC Support SIG (2012-02-16) ============================================= Meeting started by nirik at 17:00:00 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-02-16/irc-support-sig.… Meeting summary --------------- * init process (nirik, 17:00:01) * Week in review (nirik, 17:05:07) * LINK: http://fedora.theglaserfamily.org/ircstats/fedora-weekly.html (nirik, 17:05:07) * Tickets (nirik, 17:06:59) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/report/1 (nirik, 17:07:00) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/100 (nirik, 17:07:13) * suggest more politeness when pointing people to eol or other resources. (nirik, 17:15:50) * Processes (nirik, 17:17:51) * AGREED: will enact the v4 proposal, and adjust moving forward. (nirik, 17:26:21) * ACTION: nirik will codify on the wiki in a few days. (nirik, 17:26:33) * Open Floor (nirik, 17:26:39) Meeting ended at 17:31:06 UTC. Action Items ------------ * nirik will codify on the wiki in a few days. Action Items, by person ----------------------- * nirik * nirik will codify on the wiki in a few days. * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * nirik (52) * Sonar_Gal (16) * dcr226 (9) * fenrus02 (6) * FranciscoD (5) * Sonar_Guy (3) * zodbot (3) * N3LRX (2) * bodhizazen (1) -- 17:00:00 <nirik> #startmeeting IRC Support SIG (2012-02-16) 17:00:00 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Feb 16 17:00:00 2012 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:00:00 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 17:00:01 <nirik> #meetingname irc-support-sig 17:00:01 <nirik> #topic init process 17:00:01 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'irc-support-sig' 17:00:35 * N3LRX is here 17:01:07 * Sonar_Gal 17:01:17 * fenrus02 is a zombie .. n33z moar brainz 17:01:29 <nirik> huh. 17:01:31 * FranciscoD is here to watch 17:01:41 * nirik will wait until 5 after to start to let folks wander in. 17:03:04 * bodhizazen is semi-here =) 17:03:43 * dcr226 is Loading ████████████ 99% 17:04:04 <nirik> ha 17:04:54 <dcr226> looked better in gedit ;-) 17:05:03 <FranciscoD> showoff :P 17:05:05 <nirik> ok, lets go ahead and dive in... 17:05:07 <nirik> #topic Week in review 17:05:07 <nirik> http://fedora.theglaserfamily.org/ircstats/fedora-weekly.html 17:05:18 <nirik> pretty typical week again... 17:05:26 <nirik> anyone have anything they would like to note or shout out about? 17:06:02 <fenrus02> i have a long list of things to shout about. none related to this meeting however 17:06:12 <nirik> indeed. 17:06:32 <dcr226> fenrus02, not enough lunch meetings this week? feeling grumpy? 17:06:35 * dcr226 hides 17:06:45 <fenrus02> dcr226, see -social for why 17:06:48 <Sonar_Gal> not enough bacon 17:06:49 <nirik> more martini's at lunch meetings needed? ;) 17:06:55 <nirik> anyhow... moving along then... 17:06:56 <fenrus02> Sonar_Gal, clearly that is the problem 17:06:59 <nirik> #topic Tickets 17:07:00 <nirik> https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/report/1 17:07:06 <nirik> we have one ticket this week... 17:07:13 <nirik> https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/100 17:07:25 <nirik> eol fedora questions and questions from non-fedora users 17:08:33 * nirik re-reads. 17:09:28 <nirik> I think really the only thing we can try and do here is be more polite... even to people who are offtopic/notusingfedora/eol 17:09:43 <Sonar_Gal> many people don't use fedora but if someone is asking if a specific package/program is in the repo's may mean more potential users in time. 17:10:33 <nirik> yep 17:10:44 <Sonar_Gal> can always send them to another channel or tell them where they can look to see what repo's there are 17:11:03 <nirik> yeah. I agree. 17:12:16 <nirik> so, any other specific ideas or recommendations we can come up with here? 17:12:50 <Sonar_Gal> Just be more polite and send them to where they need to be. Other channels or a link to the repo list 17:13:16 * Sonar_Guy 17:13:23 <nirik> yeah. I think fedora-eol is pretty much dead right? 17:13:38 <Sonar_Gal> I think so. 17:13:40 <nirik> perhaps we should nuke it, but then I don't know where to tell folks to try and get info. 17:13:52 <dcr226> google 17:14:10 <nirik> yeah. 17:14:13 <FranciscoD> + "please update to a current release, the bug may have been fixed already" 17:14:15 <Sonar_Gal> google or even fedora forum probably has old links and such 17:14:32 <nirik> FranciscoD: yeah, we always should suggest that. Some people resist for whatever reason. 17:14:38 <nirik> Or they want to, but haven't yet. 17:15:02 <Sonar_Gal> if it was a new packager he may not have gotten all the info from pervious packager 17:15:44 <Sonar_Gal> Not sure if anything is set up for that kind of problem 17:15:50 <nirik> #info suggest more politeness when pointing people to eol or other resources. 17:16:08 <Sonar_Gal> +1 17:16:18 <Sonar_Guy> +1 17:16:22 <FranciscoD> +1 17:16:30 <nirik> ok, would someone care to add info and close the ticket? (I can, since I was also planning on commenting, but never got to it) 17:16:39 <FranciscoD> politeness at all times really, whatever the case may be 17:17:17 <Sonar_Gal> nirik, ok you can or I can 17:17:36 <nirik> Sonar_Gal: go ahead. I can add my comment when I get a chance... 17:17:41 <Sonar_Gal> ok 17:17:46 <nirik> thanks 17:17:51 <nirik> #topic Processes 17:18:01 <nirik> So, we had a proposal v4 on voting stuff... 17:18:20 <nirik> I know EvilBob had some concerns still... but he's not able to make it today and hasn't sent them to the list yet. 17:18:38 <nirik> Did we want to wait another week ? or just enact this version and modify from there? 17:19:37 <Sonar_Guy> +1 to enact this version then modify as needed! 17:19:44 <nirik> I'm open to either I guess... but I just want us to get something moving/done. ;) 17:19:52 <Sonar_Gal> +1 enact then modify 17:19:54 <fenrus02> +1 accept and move on 17:20:58 <N3LRX> +1 for v4 17:21:10 <Sonar_Gal> There are going to be issues with anything we do but we can always modify at a later date 17:21:27 <nirik> yeah, I'm 100% sure we will come up with some changes needed... 17:21:33 <fenrus02> even if you solve world hunger, someone will still complain. 17:21:34 <nirik> but at least this way we have a framework in place 17:21:57 <nirik> any other votes/concerns? 17:23:31 * Sonar_Gal smacks dcr226 to get his attention 17:23:47 <dcr226> eh, whut? 17:23:50 <nirik> Southern_Gentlem ? dcr226 ? 17:23:58 <dcr226> nah, I don't mind 17:25:16 <nirik> ok, lets go ahead and enact that now and then adjust based on issues. 17:25:23 <nirik> would someone care to codify it into the wiki? 17:25:33 * nirik could, but might be a while before I get time to. 17:25:48 <dcr226> nah, I don't mind: Doing three things at once, do your thing...stop deliberating and do something 17:25:53 <dcr226> :-) 17:26:21 <nirik> #agreed will enact the v4 proposal, and adjust moving forward. 17:26:33 <nirik> #action nirik will codify on the wiki in a few days. 17:26:39 <nirik> #topic Open Floor 17:26:44 <nirik> anything for open floor? 17:27:24 <Sonar_Gal> Not that I can think of at this time 17:29:39 * nirik will close out in a minute then 17:31:03 <nirik> thanks for coming everyone! 17:31:06 <nirik> #endmeeting

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Fedora Videos meeting logs
by María Leandro 16 Feb '12

16 Feb '12

<zodbot> Meeting ended Thu Feb 16 16:26:01 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . <zodbot> Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-02-16/fedora-meeting.2… <zodbot> Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-02-16/fedora-meeting.2… <zodbot> Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-02-16/fedora-meeting.2… -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:tatica LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56

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FAmNA Meeting (15 February 2012)
by inode0 14 Feb '12

14 Feb '12

#fedora-meeting: FAmNA Meeting started by inode0 at 02:00:23 UTC (http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-02-15/famna.2012-02-15…) Meeting summary 1. 1. is eating bacon cheeseburger pizza during this meating (nb, 02:00:25) 2. Roll Call (inode0, 02:00:40) 1. we like steaks at meatings (nb, 02:00:40) 3. Announcements (inode0, 02:02:31) 1. bpowell01 is stepping down as a shipper (nb, 02:02:59) 2. If anyone has expenses for which they need reimbursement from the past year, now is the time to produce those receipts and so forth (rbergeron, 02:03:44) 4. Tickets (inode0, 02:07:02) 1. ACTION: kk4ewt will send table covers and banners to LFNE (inode0, 02:13:23) 2. ACTION: inode0 will follow up and help Mario get tickets processed and make sure he gets event resources (inode0, 02:18:44) 3. ACTION: rbergeron goes for prodding along of flyer for pycon :) (inode0, 02:23:39) 4. ACTION: inode0 will check with abadger1999 about volume and assortment of other material (inode0, 02:24:11) 5. ACTION: nb to follow up with bpepple regarding ILF planning (inode0, 02:28:54) 6. ACTION: rbergeron will ping suehle and inode0 will ping makfinsky about POSSCON (inode0, 02:31:31) 7. http://libreplanet.org/wiki/Main_Page (rbergeron, 02:51:30) 8. ACTION: inode0 will hunt down Greg Kerr and lure him into going to a conference for us (inode0, 02:55:16) 9. this is an event I was hoping to get some feedback from ke4qqq about (rbergeron, 02:56:13) 10. this conference has two parts - first 3 days are design summit, for contributors, mostly about setting direction of the project for next 6 months (rbergeron, 02:57:16) 11. second half is for users, potential contributors, etc. - and there typically have been a few booths, at least at the one i previously attended (rbergeron, 02:57:47) 5. Open Floor (inode0, 03:02:30) 1. http://lac.linuxaudio.org/2012/ (Jsandys, 03:07:04) Meeting ended at 03:12:56 UTC (http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-02-15/famna.2012-02-15…) Action items 1. kk4ewt will send table covers and banners to LFNE 2. inode0 will follow up and help Mario get tickets processed and make sure he gets event resources 3. rbergeron goes for prodding along of flyer for pycon :) 4. inode0 will check with abadger1999 about volume and assortment of other material 5. nb to follow up with bpepple regarding ILF planning 6. rbergeron will ping suehle and inode0 will ping makfinsky about POSSCON 7. inode0 will hunt down Greg Kerr and lure him into going to a conference for us Action items, by person 1. inode0 1. inode0 will follow up and help Mario get tickets processed and make sure he gets event resources 2. inode0 will check with abadger1999 about volume and assortment of other material 3. rbergeron will ping suehle and inode0 will ping makfinsky about POSSCON 4. inode0 will hunt down Greg Kerr and lure him into going to a conference for us 2. kk4ewt 1. kk4ewt will send table covers and banners to LFNE 3. nb 1. nb to follow up with bpepple regarding ILF planning 4. rbergeron 1. rbergeron goes for prodding along of flyer for pycon :) 2. rbergeron will ping suehle and inode0 will ping makfinsky about POSSCON People present (lines said) 1. inode0 (121) 2. rbergeron (82) 3. nb (19) 4. zodbot (16) 5. Jsandys (14) 6. kk4ewt (5) 7. award3535 (2) 8. SGS (1) 9. MarkDude (1) 10. jsmith (1) John

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FESCo Meeting Minutes (2012-02-13)
by Stephen Gallagher 13 Feb '12

13 Feb '12

=================================== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2012-02-13) =================================== Meeting started by sgallagh at 18:00:33 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-02-13/fesco.2012-02-13… . Meeting summary --------------- * init process (sgallagh, 18:00:33) * #799 Issues with maintainer responsiveness (clamav) (sgallagh, 18:02:14) * AGREED: Ask ensc to document (at least by a link) the packaging rationale inside the package; close ticket and let philipp reopen with a specific proposal (sgallagh, 18:22:16) * #801 Feature Freeze Exception: Thermostat (sgallagh, 18:23:39) * AGREED: Thermostat is granted a Feature Exception (sgallagh, 18:31:05) * #802 F17 Features - progress at Feature Freeze (sgallagh, 18:31:23) * AGREED: move mkdumprd, eclipse juno to shiny-marketing features - those are leaf nodes (sgallagh, 18:39:13) * ACTION: FESCo members will review the critical Features and ask owners for updates (sgallagh, 19:09:15) * Next week's chair (sgallagh, 19:09:27) * ACTION: nirik to chair Feb 27 meeting (sgallagh, 19:12:49) * Open Floor (sgallagh, 19:12:56) * AGREED: close the ticket with thanks for the update, and no action currently (sgallagh, 19:23:23) Meeting ended at 19:36:11 UTC. Action Items ------------ * FESCo members will review the critical Features and ask owners for updates * nirik to chair Feb 27 meeting Action Items, by person ----------------------- * nirik * nirik to chair Feb 27 meeting * **UNASSIGNED** * FESCo members will review the critical Features and ask owners for updates People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * sgallagh (124) * mitr (61) * limburgher (61) * pjones (37) * notting (37) * mjg59 (32) * nirik (25) * t8m (18) * mmaslano (13) * abadger1999 (11) * rbergeron (10) * nb (7) * zodbot (7) * omajid (3) * tibbs (2) * vanaltj (1) * ctyler (1) * dbhole (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Docs meeting summary -- 13 Feb 2012
by Ben Cotton 13 Feb '12

13 Feb '12

Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-02-13/fedora_docs.2012… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-02-13/fedora_docs.2012… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-02-13/fedora_docs.2012… Meeting started by bcotton at 14:00:03 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-02-13/fedora_docs.2012… Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (bcotton, 14:00:18) * Release Notes (bcotton, 14:05:20) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Notes_schedule (bcotton, 14:05:28) * Beats now open, take a beat, or re-take previous beat by removing * from your name at (bcotton, 14:05:40) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_Beats (bcotton, 14:05:48) * ACTION: bcotton to ping docs ml one last time about beat writers (bcotton, 14:06:51) * Guide Status (bcotton, 14:14:26) * LINK: http://rbergero.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-17/f-17-docs-tree-tasks.html (bcotton, 14:14:35) * Outstanding BZ Tickets (bcotton, 14:18:23) * LINK: http://tinyurl.com/lbrq84 (bcotton, 14:18:31) * Open floor discussion (bcotton, 14:19:07) * ACTION: sparks to find out who will be managing the release calendars (bcotton, 14:23:28) Meeting ended at 14:26:12 UTC. Action Items ------------ * bcotton to ping docs ml one last time about beat writers * sparks to find out who will be managing the release calendars Action Items, by person ----------------------- * bcotton * bcotton to ping docs ml one last time about beat writers * **UNASSIGNED** * sparks to find out who will be managing the release calendars People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * bcotton (33) * suehle (12) * Sparks (11) * jjmcd (9) * zodbot (3) * jsmith (2) * ke4qqq (1) -- Ben Cotton Fedora Docs Leader

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Summary/Minutes from today's Fedora Infrastructure meeting (2012-02-09)
by Kevin Fenzi 09 Feb '12

09 Feb '12

============================================ #fedora-meeting: Infrastructure (2012-02-09) ============================================ Meeting started by nirik at 19:00:01 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-02-09/infrastructure.2… Meeting summary --------------- * Robot Roll Call (nirik, 19:00:01) * New folks introductions and apprentice tasks/feedback (nirik, 19:01:44) * 2 factor auth status (nirik, 19:05:32) * LINK: http://lists.canonical.org/pipermail/kragen-hacks/2002-February/000312.html (skvidal, 19:07:16) * Staging re-work status (nirik, 19:08:20) * LINK: http://fpaste.org/RusC/ (nirik, 19:09:56) * Applications status / discussion (nirik, 19:11:11) * we currently have just 9 rhel5 instances. 8 of them app servers and 1 a virthost that some app servers are on. ;) (nirik, 19:17:21) * Upcoming tasks (nirik, 19:22:34) * 2012-02-10 - drop inactive fi-apprentices (nirik, 19:22:37) * 2012-02-14 to 2012-02-28 - F17 Alpha Freeze (nirik, 19:22:37) * 2012-02-28 - F17alpha release day (nirik, 19:22:37) * 2012-03-01 - nag fi-apprentices. (nirik, 19:22:38) * 2012-03-10 - drop inactive fi-apprentices (nirik, 19:22:38) * 2012-03-20 to 2012-04-03 - F17 Beta Freeze (nirik, 19:22:38) * 2012-04-01 - nag fi-apprentices. (nirik, 19:22:40) * 2012-04-03 - F17Beta release day (nirik, 19:22:42) * Open Floor (nirik, 19:27:07) Meeting ended at 19:39:58 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * nirik (92) * skvidal (30) * lmacken (20) * abadger1999 (14) * pingou (12) * danstar (6) * zodbot (4) * CodeBlock (4) * threebean (2) * ianweller (1) * wsterling (1) * smooge (1) * mdomsch (1) * Smilers_ (1) * ricky (0) * dgilmore (0) * Codeblock (0) -- 19:00:01 <nirik> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2012-02-09) 19:00:01 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Feb 9 19:00:01 2012 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:00:01 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 19:00:01 <nirik> #meetingname infrastructure 19:00:01 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure' 19:00:01 <nirik> #topic Robot Roll Call 19:00:01 <nirik> #chair smooge skvidal Codeblock ricky nirik abadger1999 lmacken dgilmore mdomsch 19:00:01 <zodbot> Current chairs: Codeblock abadger1999 dgilmore lmacken mdomsch nirik ricky skvidal smooge 19:00:09 * skvidal is here 19:00:17 <ianweller> crooooooooooooow 19:00:18 * pingou pingou 19:00:23 <CodeBlock> here 19:00:39 <danstar> here 19:00:39 <mdomsch> here 19:00:41 <Smilers_> here 19:00:45 * abadger1999 here 19:00:57 <nirik> lots of folks. ;) nice. 19:01:42 <nirik> ok, lets go ahead then... 19:01:44 <nirik> #topic New folks introductions and apprentice tasks/feedback 19:01:54 <nirik> Any new folks like to introduce themselves ? 19:02:02 <pingou> lots of new folks on the list recently 19:02:05 <nirik> or apprentices like to talk about issues / tickets/ concnerns? 19:02:11 <danstar> i can start with intro :) 19:02:13 <nirik> yeah, there sure seems to be. 19:02:21 <nirik> danstar: welcome. Go ahead 19:02:30 <danstar> well, hi all again :) 19:02:54 <danstar> i'm a long time linux user, going into sysadmining more recently 19:03:22 <danstar> learning to recertify as RHSCA and then RHCE, have lots of free time so i'd like to help if possible 19:03:25 <nirik> excellent. 19:03:39 <nirik> see me after the meeting over in #fedora-admin and we can get you setup. 19:03:47 <danstar> ok 19:04:14 <smooge> here 19:04:18 * lmacken 19:04:19 <nirik> any other new folks like to introduce themselves? 19:05:16 <nirik> ok, lets move along then... 19:05:32 <nirik> #topic 2 factor auth status 19:05:59 <nirik> I talked with herlo some, I need to meet up and see exactly where we are. I'd like to get something in place before too long for our initial goal. 19:06:16 <nirik> I've been pointed to yet another pam module... 19:06:19 <nirik> pam_httpd 19:06:24 <nirik> sorry, pam_http 19:06:31 <skvidal> what does it do differently than the others? 19:06:37 <nirik> so, we have pam_otp, pam_http and pam_url 19:06:46 <skvidal> yay! 19:06:47 <nirik> I'm not sure, Ive not looked at it yet 19:07:07 <skvidal> umm 19:07:09 <skvidal> how OLD is it? 19:07:16 <skvidal> http://lists.canonical.org/pipermail/kragen-hacks/2002-February/000312.html 19:07:18 <nirik> Ideally we pick whichever one is smallest, does what we want and has someone working on it. 19:07:25 <nirik> it's ancient, but I have an updated one. 19:07:32 <nirik> I can fwd it to you if you want to look. 19:07:36 <skvidal> ah ha https://github.com/beatgammit/pam-http 19:08:06 <nirik> anyhow, hopefully in the next few weeks we can get something going. 19:08:20 <nirik> #topic Staging re-work status 19:08:31 <nirik> we kinda stalled out on this, but I think we know the way we want it to work now. 19:08:39 <skvidal> how many boxes left in staging, now? 19:08:43 <nirik> it's just a matter of setting up the application part in prod 19:08:54 * nirik looks at the last list from averi 19:09:56 <nirik> http://fpaste.org/RusC/ 19:10:12 <nirik> we were on the app machines. 19:10:58 <nirik> anyhow, just need to keep plugging away at it. 19:11:11 <nirik> #topic Applications status / discussion 19:11:33 <nirik> lmacken / threebean / abadger1999 / pingou: any app status reports from this week? 19:11:54 <nirik> I really plan to start setting up a prod packaging setup soon. I keep getting sidetracked. 19:12:09 <nirik> comments on the url plan on the list would be welcome 19:12:17 <abadger1999> threebean has been working on the moksha API some. 19:12:42 <threebean> yeah, no changes to production anytime soon but I'm cleaning out some of the extra hangers-on in the moksha API 19:12:43 <lmacken> as for bodhi, I have been fixing a lot of bugs, and pushed out a new release last week. I'm prepping another release this week as well. Then [hopefully] I'll be full-steam towards bodhi v2.0. 19:13:02 <lmacken> yeah, threebean and I are also working on a major refactoring of moksha 19:13:12 <threebean> the plan -> https://fedorahosted.org/moksha/wiki/2.0 19:13:43 <pingou> I tried to work on getting a new plugin for FAS, might interest lmacken for bodhi at some point (it reworks the flash() function) 19:13:52 <nirik> cool. Did you want to finish that before pushing tagger/packager to production? or doesn't matter? 19:14:07 <abadger1999> Yeah, so we get a flash function that can do warnings and errors. 19:14:18 <lmacken> nirik: nah, the moksha refactoring shouldn't hold anything else back 19:14:20 * wsterling here 19:14:24 <nirik> lmacken: ok, cool. 19:14:25 <lmacken> pingou: oh, interesting. 19:14:29 <nirik> welcome wsterling 19:14:43 <abadger1999> EasyFix item if someone wants -- take the captcha implementation in current FAS and split it into its own package. 19:15:02 <pingou> abadger1999: I was wondering if we should put the code somewhere for this ? fh ? 19:15:24 <abadger1999> It's based on an existing standalone package, so whoever takes it will be able to compare to that to see what they're missing. 19:15:25 <pingou> as in fork it completely, since we already hacked it quite a bit 19:15:33 <abadger1999> pingou: Yeah, I agree. 19:15:45 <pingou> abadger1999: I 19:15:52 <pingou> I'll request the fh project then 19:15:54 <nirik> lmacken: oh, you said something a while back and I might have misunderstood, but you said you could make community (old) work on rhel6 pretty easily? or should we just retire community(old) when we get packager/tagger into production? 19:17:07 <lmacken> nirik: yes, I could probably get it working on RHEL6 pretty quickly (probably just need to spin up a new moksha). As for retiring it, I think we could once packages goes to production... 19:17:17 <lmacken> my only concern is the Statistics section is still very useful (to me at least) 19:17:21 <nirik> #info we currently have just 9 rhel5 instances. 8 of them app servers and 1 a virthost that some app servers are on. ;) 19:17:42 <pingou> nice :) 19:17:56 <nirik> well, if we can get it running on 6, we can start replacing app servers... which would be nice. ;) 19:18:05 <lmacken> nirik: I'll take a look 19:18:10 <nirik> and then just leave it around for a bit. 19:18:14 <lmacken> yeah, sounds good. 19:18:39 <nirik> also, bodhi is still not showing right on app05/06 (our two rhel6 app boxes) 19:19:09 <nirik> any other app news? 19:19:31 <lmacken> nirik: wow, yeah... not sure what that is all about... [Thu Feb 09 19:10:18 2012] [error] File "/usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/kid/pars 19:19:35 <lmacken> er.py", line 180, in _track 19:19:37 <lmacken> [Thu Feb 09 19:10:18 2012] [error] ev, item = p 19:19:40 <lmacken> [Thu Feb 09 19:10:18 2012] [error] ValueError: too many values to unpack 19:19:42 * lmacken will look into rhel6 fixes for both bodhi and fcomm 19:19:58 <nirik> yeah I think it might have been working at one time then perhaps an update messed it up? not sure. 19:20:10 <lmacken> ohh, it's kid+genshi fighting, I think 19:20:16 <lmacken> could be related to the new python-fedora update 19:20:34 <nirik> fun. 19:20:37 <abadger1999> we could also put old community on its own server until we're ready to retire. 19:20:46 * nirik is fine either way. 19:20:54 <abadger1999> lmacken: More likely, the new TurboGears (in RHEL6 vs RHEL5) 19:21:09 <lmacken> abadger1999: oh, that kid error I'm seeing is from smolt actually 19:21:11 <nirik> I just want to start replacing apps (and bapp01) 19:21:35 <lmacken> oh, the bodhi RHEL6 issue is a trivial fix. 19:21:41 <abadger1999> lmacken: ah. Okay -- there were some smolt bugs that I've never gotten enough time to go back and look at. 19:21:42 <nirik> cool. ;) 19:22:09 <nirik> ok, shall I move along then? 19:22:34 <nirik> #topic Upcoming tasks 19:22:37 <nirik> #info 2012-02-10 - drop inactive fi-apprentices 19:22:37 <nirik> #info 2012-02-14 to 2012-02-28 - F17 Alpha Freeze 19:22:37 <nirik> #info 2012-02-28 - F17alpha release day 19:22:38 <nirik> #info 2012-03-01 - nag fi-apprentices. 19:22:38 <nirik> #info 2012-03-10 - drop inactive fi-apprentices 19:22:38 <nirik> #info 2012-03-20 to 2012-04-03 - F17 Beta Freeze 19:22:40 <nirik> #info 2012-04-01 - nag fi-apprentices. 19:22:42 <nirik> #info 2012-04-03 - F17Beta release day 19:22:44 <nirik> we have a freeze coming up. 19:23:01 <nirik> I'll probibly file alpha tickets soon... 19:23:14 * CodeBlock is waiting for the day when nirik pastes that and excess-floods off freenode. ;) 19:23:23 <nirik> anyone have any other upcoming tasks or items? 19:23:27 <pingou> CodeBlock: you wish :) 19:23:30 <nirik> CodeBlock: I'm sure it will happen. :) 19:23:46 <abadger1999> nirik: When would be a good day(s) to update python-fedora? 19:24:19 <nirik> most anytime, but probibly eariler in the week? monday/tuesday? 19:24:45 <abadger1999> nirik: Okay, I'll deploy a new python-fedora Monday of next week then. 19:24:54 <abadger1999> And have the whole day to fix/revert if it breaks stuff. 19:25:03 <nirik> ok. thats right before freeze, but should be ok hopefully. 19:25:49 <abadger1999> If you'd rather, I can put it off... Just have some pseudo-security fixes in there. 19:25:56 <nirik> naw, monday sounds fine. 19:26:02 <abadger1999> Sounds good. 19:26:10 <lmacken> nirik: ok, bodhi fixed on app5-6, but they can't ping db-bodhi now. 19:26:27 <nirik> lmacken: they probibly need hosts entries... those are the two non phx2 ones. 19:26:33 <lmacken> ah 19:26:40 <nirik> abadger1999: we can also roll up any other pending updates before the freeze. 19:27:07 <nirik> #topic Open Floor 19:27:13 <nirik> anyone have anything for open floor? 19:27:41 <skvidal> yah 19:27:49 <skvidal> I just chatted with rmonk about pam-http 19:27:59 <skvidal> seems reasonable enough 19:28:06 <skvidal> exactly the same framework we're describing 19:28:18 <nirik> ok. 19:28:20 <skvidal> it seems like the only thing holding us up at all is the cgi which checks the otp 19:28:25 <skvidal> or yubikey 19:28:26 <skvidal> or whatever 19:28:29 <nirik> yep. 19:28:33 <skvidal> where should that live? 19:28:43 <nirik> well, and picking which one we use... which I don't care about. 19:29:01 <nirik> puppet? or it's own project? or part of pam_otp ? 19:29:14 <nirik> or you mean where does it run in our setup? 19:29:28 <skvidal> our setup 19:29:32 <skvidal> which server should host the cgi 19:29:55 <nirik> fas* I think... 19:30:10 <nirik> then it can use localhost urls to hit ykserv or whatever other store it needs? 19:30:29 <skvidal> okay 19:31:02 <nirik> you want to work on the cgi? 19:31:24 <skvidal> I want to get euca set first - I'm trying to be done with the junk instance this week 19:31:35 <skvidal> but yah - I guess I will 19:31:44 <nirik> ok, that would be great. ;) 19:31:49 <nirik> thanks 19:31:59 <skvidal> don't thank me, yet 19:32:10 <nirik> anyone have anything else? 19:32:22 <skvidal> a couple 19:32:32 <skvidal> does anyone want a relatively light-weight scripting job to take on? 19:32:47 <CodeBlock> skvidal: such as? :) 19:33:03 <pingou> EasyFix :) 19:33:09 <skvidal> the cron job to check ssh keys 19:33:26 <skvidal> I checked in all the fas-ssh key checking up to my personal repo 19:33:30 <nirik> yeah, might file a ticket on it easyfix marked... 19:33:42 * nirik notes we could use more easyfix stuff. 19:33:45 <pingou> does it work btw ? EasyFix 19:33:57 <skvidal> and now it just needs a cron job to check against a specific date to make sure no one has uploaded an old key 19:34:39 <skvidal> CodeBlock: the other item that won't take a lot of time but some focus is making it so we can use the infrabot user to add info to puppet and for the nagios-generatin script that wsterling wrote 19:35:01 <nirik> pingou: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/14 for the query, but if you mean do we get fixes... sometimes? ;) 19:35:31 <pingou> nirik: yeah it was more as in "do people/new comers look at easyfix?" 19:36:14 <nirik> I think we could do better describing them/adding info, but I think we assume people will ask if they don't understand the ticket. 19:37:30 <nirik> skvidal: so, file those as easyfix and we will see if we can find some takers? unless someone here wants them right now? 19:37:44 <skvidal> ok 19:38:31 <nirik> anything else? or shall we call it a meeting? 19:38:48 <CodeBlock> If nobody takes the easyfixes I can hack on them a bit. I'm planning on doing some infra-hosts scripts hacking anyway (as per skvidal saying they need work) 19:38:59 <skvidal> CodeBlock: cool 19:39:30 <nirik> excellent. 19:39:55 <nirik> ok, thanks for coming everyone. :) Lets continue over in #fedora-admin and/or #fedora-apps and/or #fedora-noc 19:39:58 <nirik> #endmeeting

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