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FAmNA Meeting (28 March 2012)
by inode0 27 Mar '12

27 Mar '12

====================== #fedora-meeting: FAmNA ====================== Meeting started by inode0 at 01:00:11 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-03-28/famna.2012-03-28… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (inode0, 01:00:30) * Announcements (inode0, 01:02:06) * Tickets (inode0, 01:11:11) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SELF_2012 (inode0, 01:14:51) * AGREED: Fund a bronze sponsorship at SELF ($500) (inode0, 01:18:06) * ACTION: rbergeron to pay for it or reimburse jsandys for it (rbergeron, 01:21:27) * ACTION: rbergeron to pay for LFNW booth or reimburse jsandys for it (rbergeron, 01:22:44) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OpenStackSummitConf_April2012 (inode0, 01:36:06) * AGREED: Funding approved for OpenStack up to $250 for event specific materials to be produced for distribution at the event (inode0, 01:39:53) * ACTION: inode0 to poke vwbusguy in the ribs about ticket #276 (swag for LAC) (inode0, 01:45:39) * Open Floor (inode0, 01:46:55) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pchestek/TMGuidelinesDraft (inode0, 02:08:00) Meeting ended at 02:10:12 UTC. Action Items ------------ * rbergeron to pay for it or reimburse jsandys for it * rbergeron to pay for LFNW booth or reimburse jsandys for it * inode0 to poke vwbusguy in the ribs about ticket #276 (swag for LAC) Action Items, by person ----------------------- * inode0 * inode0 to poke vwbusguy in the ribs about ticket #276 (swag for LAC) * rbergeron * rbergeron to pay for it or reimburse jsandys for it * rbergeron to pay for LFNW booth or reimburse jsandys for it * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * inode0 (127) * rbergeron (36) * herlo (33) * award3535 (20) * nb (14) * zodbot (13) * graphite6 (10) * ianweller (7) * Jsandys (5) * Sonar_Gal (5) * NiveusLuna (5) * dramsey (3) * Zethrus (1) John

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Re: fedora tour meeting logs 27 March
by Ankur Sinha 27 Mar '12

27 Mar '12

> March 27 1530UTC #fedora-tour Meeting summary --------------- * Rollcall (FranciscoD, 15:32:30) * UI theme (FranciscoD, 15:35:04) * LINK: http://freehtml5templates.com/downloads/free/vividphoto/ (FranciscoD, 15:35:11) * 1. the navigation part can be fixed to the bottom? Instead of it expanding from anyplace? (FranciscoD, 15:41:34) * 2. Text should be normalized (FranciscoD, 15:41:37) * 3. we dont really need the side menu (FranciscoD, 15:41:43) * LINK: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fr_dBAjqug&feature=youtu.be (tatica, 15:58:41) * ACTION: FranciscoD do the mockups based on today's discussion (FranciscoD, 16:06:41) * Subfusc 's combiner (FranciscoD, 16:06:54) * 21:39 <@fedbot> Fedora 17 release date is scheduled for 2012-05-08 14:00, which is in 5 weeks, 6 days, 21 hours, 49 minutes, and 11 seconds (FranciscoD, 16:11:00) * ACTION: Write Howto use combiner thing on wiki (Subfusc, 16:13:46) * ACTION: FranciscoD decipher code behind toned down version of http://freehtml5templates.com/downloads/free/vividphoto/ right? (FranciscoD, 16:18:48) * open floor (FranciscoD, 16:19:10) * Git master (FranciscoD, 16:20:25) * ACTION: Subfusc babysit git repo (FranciscoD, 16:21:54) * Subfusc is the git master for fedora-tour (FranciscoD, 16:22:02) * workflow: work on your own branches. do something substantial, ping Subfusc when need to merge to master/devel (FranciscoD, 16:24:15) * development goes to devel branch. Main branch always stays stable (FranciscoD, 16:26:09) * ACTION: FranciscoD thunderbirdtr decipher code behind toned down version of http://freehtml5templates.com/downloads/free/vividphoto/ (FranciscoD, 16:27:48) * ACTION: FranciscoD do the logs things (FranciscoD, 16:29:12) Action Items, by person ----------------------- * FranciscoD * FranciscoD do the mockups based on today's discussion * FranciscoD decipher code behind toned down version of http://freehtml5templates.com/downloads/free/vividphoto/ right? * FranciscoD thunderbirdtr decipher code behind toned down version of http://freehtml5templates.com/downloads/free/vividphoto/ * FranciscoD do the logs things * Subfusc * Subfusc babysit git repo * thunderbirdtr * FranciscoD thunderbirdtr decipher code behind toned down version of http://freehtml5templates.com/downloads/free/vividphoto/ * **UNASSIGNED** * Write Howto use combiner thing on wiki === Log links == http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-tour/2012-03-27/fedora-tour.2012-03… http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-tour/2012-03-27/fedora-tour.2012-03… http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-tour/2012-03-27/fedora-tour.2012-03… -- Thanks, Regards, Ankur: "FranciscoD" http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha http://dodoincfedora.wordpress.com/

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Re: FLTG Meeting March 27, 2012
by Ani Peter 27 Mar '12

27 Mar '12

====================================== #fedora-fltg IRC for fltg (2012-03-27) ====================================== Participants:- --------------- * asa * apeter * jassy * mgiri * ngoswami * shaiton * sweta Meeting Log ----------- <apeter> yes... :) <jassy> hi all <apeter> hi guys :) <asa> _This Week_ <asa> as Installation i18n/l10n Testing is pending next week, we need to: <asa> Create installation i18n/l01n Test Page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2011-08-31_L10n_I18n_Installation <asa> - Update Test Day Page: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Fedora_17_test_days <asa> - Test ISO (beta) once with any language <jassy> will do it tomolo <asa> - communicate with l10n, i18n team regarding it <apeter> asa, proposed date is April 5th (Thursday) right <asa> Please Update Ticket http://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa/ticket/271 for installation test day on Apr 05,2012 <asa> yes * apeter always have confusion with dates <shaiton_> Hi there <apeter> hi shaiton_, Kevin seeing you after long time :) <shaiton_> yes I were away and then had some issue with the Alpha (which runs in all my computers ^^) <apeter> oh ok <shaiton_> about the test matrix table, do we move to subsubsections instead of table? (that would be easier to update) <apeter> in subsections, how do we update? <shaiton_> only by editing the current subsection (instead of the whole table) <shaiton_> (the markup source would be easier to read) <asa> shaiton_: I think yet not done, but do you think it can be implement with https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2011-08-31_L10n_I18n_Installation in Fedora 17? * jassy think we diverted from today's meeting <shaiton_> asa: hum not really, that was more with the huge table that we had <shaiton_> sorry to be out of topic ;) <jassy> shaiton_, no prob <asa> shaiton_: we will discuss after meeting <jassy> we will discuss it after meeting <shaiton_> yep <asa> please help todo part of installation test day <asa> if no question, moving next_ <asa> _Next Week_ * ChanServ gives channel operator status to jassy <sweta> asa: we will create test cases tomorrow <asa> installation Test day Apr 05, 2012 <asa> sweta: thanks * jassy has changed the topic to: Fedora Installation i18n/L10n Test Day: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2011-08-31_L10n_I18n_Installation <jassy> asa, is it confirmed <jassy> means day <asa> jassy: please put comment in ticket and add to Test day page <asa> http://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa/ticket/271 <jassy> asa, ok <asa> Next Week I will not be available for testing installation * jassy has changed the topic to: Fedora Installation i18n/L10n Test Day: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2011-08-31_L10n_I18n_Installation for reference <apeter> also create a similar page like https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2011-08-31_L10n_I18n_Installation * apeter trying to create wiki page * jassy is also going out next week * shaiton_ will start a new dayjob… <asa> any other task or agenda, other than this to discuss? <asa> otherwise closing meeting... <asa> 5 <asa> 4 <asa> 3 <asa> 2 <asa> 1 <sweta> thank you all <asa> thanks --------------------- Thanks Ani Ani Peter wrote: > Details for today's meeting:- > > Venue: #fedora-fltg on freenode > Date : Tuesday, 27 March 2012, 10:00:00 UTC (IST 3:30PM) > > Agenda: > This Week: > 1) Prepare for anaconda testing > 2) Wiki page for anacoda testing details > 3) Test cases preparation > > Next Week: > 1) Preparations for Installation Test Day - April 5th, 2012 > > If I have missed any tasks, please feel free to add them. > > Thanking you > Best regards > Ani > _______________________________________________ > fltg mailing list > fltg(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/fltg

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Meeting Notes 2012-03-26
by John J. McDonough 26 Mar '12

26 Mar '12

Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (jjmcd, 14:04:37) * Follow up on last week's action items (jjmcd, 14:06:25) * ACTION: bcotton to check on guide owners for F17 (jjmcd, 14:07:14) * Appears this has been started (jjmcd, 14:08:04) * Release Notes (jjmcd, 14:08:57) * LINK: http://fedorapeople.org/groups/docs/release-notes/en-US/ (jjmcd, 14:10:02) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_Beats (jjmcd, 14:10:29) * Release notes index entries and proofreading needed (jjmcd, 14:12:56) * Will probably be looking for karma in a couple of days (jjmcd, 14:13:59) * ACTION: Anyone who can proofread and index (jjmcd, 14:21:47) * Guide Status (jjmcd, 14:25:45) * LINK: http://rbergero.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-17/f-17-docs-tree-tasks.html (jjmcd, 14:26:11) * Users Guide in progress (jjmcd, 14:31:09) * Packagers Guide targeted for F17 (jjmcd, 14:31:23) * Consider removing RPM Guide (jjmcd, 14:37:03) * Capesteve will work with jhradilek to review NetworkManager chapter in SA Guide (jjmcd, 14:37:46) * Many links exist to RPM Guide (jjmcd, 14:38:32) * claneys will work on User's Guide (jjmcd, 14:38:57) * Outstanding BZ Tickets (jjmcd, 14:41:58) * jmtaylor willing to help with bugs (jjmcd, 14:44:51) * Open floor discussion (jjmcd, 14:46:59) Meeting ended at 14:58:41 UTC. Action Items ------------ * bcotton to check on guide owners for F17 * Anyone who can proofread and index Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * bcotton to check on guide owners for F17 * Anyone who can proofread and index People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * jjmcd (104) * jhradilek (17) * Capesteve (12) * pkovar (11) * randomuser (10) * fnadge (8) * rbergeron (8) * shaiton (5) * claneys (4) * suehle (2) * zodbot (2) * jmtaylor (1) Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-03-26/fedora-meeting.2… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-03-26/fedora-meeting.2… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-03-26/fedora-meeting.2…

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FUDCon KL Funding Approval Meeting Minutes 2012-03-23
by Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail 24 Mar '12

24 Mar '12

Meeting minutes from FUDCon KL Funding Approval Meeting last night is here: Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fudcon-planning/2012-03-23/fudcon_kl_2012.… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fudcon-planning/2012-03-23/fudcon_kl_2012.… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fudcon-planning/2012-03-23/fudcon_kl_2012.… 43% (3k usd) from our planned allocation budget to fund people to the event was approved in the meeting. and the contributors who are approved are: * udinnet * mak * snavin * calkalpa * rtnpro * kumarpraveen * ankursinha * adimania Congratulations to those who are approved. The rest of the funding will be allocated on our next fudcon-planning meeting on : Thursday, March 29, 2012, 14:01 UTC in #fudcon-planning. Contributors who have applied for funding but could not attend last night meeting, are encouraged to attend the next one. Reminder: Our funding request application is still open until 27th March 2012. Those still interested to apply can still apply at the fudcon-planning trac. Thanks! Regards!. -- Mohd Izhar Firdaus Bin Ismail / KageSenshi Inigo Consulting (FOSS/Plone Development, Training & Services) http://www.inigo-tech.com Fedora Malaysia Contributor & Ambassador http://blog.kagesenshi.org 92C2 B295 B40B B3DC 6866 5011 5BD2 584A 8A5D 7331

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APAC meeting logs
by Truong Anh Tuan 24 Mar '12

24 Mar '12

----- Original Message ----- > From: "Truong Anh. Tuan" <tuanta(a)iwayvietnam.com> > To: "Fedora Ambassadors" <ambassadors(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 4:34:56 PM > Subject: [Ambassadors] A friendly reminder, the next biweekly APAC meeting is on Saturday, March 24th, 2012 at 04:00 > UTC. :)‏ > > A friendly reminder, the next biweekly APAC meeting is on Saturday, > March 24th, 2012 at 04:00 UTC. :)‏ Please kindly see the meeting logs here: Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-03-24/apac.2012-03-24-… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-03-24/apac.2012-03-24-… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-03-24/apac.2012-03-24-… > As "agreed" in the last meeting, we will change to weekly meetings > (instead of bi-weekly) until FUDCon APAC KL 2012. The next meeting would be at 4:00 UTC on the next Saturday. > Also as discussed in that, from now on, meeting agenda would be > simplified to fit in an hour (the regular duration), so it will be > started almost blank. It's cool. we are in time. Kind regards, Tuan

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GSoC - Fedora Insight Meeting Logs
by María Leandro 23 Mar '12

23 Mar '12

<zodbot> Meeting ended Fri Mar 23 16:50:54 2012 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . <zodbot> Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-mktg/2012-03-23/fedora-mktg.2012-03… <zodbot> Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-mktg/2012-03-23/fedora-mktg.2012-03… <zodbot> Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-mktg/2012-03-23/fedora-mktg.2012-03… <zodbot> Please remember to CC: meetingminutes(a)lists.fedoraproject.org on your summary/minutes email. -- tatica Maria Gracia Leandro http://www.tatica.org http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:tatica LinuxUser= 440285 GPG Public Key: E1CDCC56

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Minutes/Summary from today's Fedora Infrastructure meeting (2012-03-22)
by Kevin Fenzi 22 Mar '12

22 Mar '12

============================================ #fedora-meeting: Infrastructure (2012-03-22) ============================================ Meeting started by nirik at 20:00:02 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-03-22/infrastructure.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * Robot Roll Call (nirik, 20:00:03) * New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks. (nirik, 20:02:18) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/14 should be the sysadmin type ones. (nirik, 20:04:08) * two factor auth status (nirik, 20:08:27) * Staging re-work status (nirik, 20:11:56) * will work on finishing this after the beta freeze. (nirik, 20:13:02) * Applications status / discussion (nirik, 20:13:12) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Darkserver and https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Darkserver (nirik, 20:14:11) * darkserver is deployed in production now. (nirik, 20:15:44) * messaging work is moving forward, there was a meeting on it earlier this week. (nirik, 20:16:03) * logs from the messaging sig meeting at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/meetbot/fedora-meeting/2012-03-20/messagin… (nirik, 20:17:00) * dpsearch development instance at https://search-dev.fedoraproject.org/search.cgi (nirik, 20:18:53) * ACTION: CodeBlock to work on fixing speed issues with dpsearch. (nirik, 20:19:34) * Upcoming Tasks/Items (nirik, 20:21:06) * 2012-03-20 to 2012-04-03 - F17 Beta Freeze (nirik, 20:21:18) * 2012-03-26 - 21UTC migrate fedorapeople.org (nirik, 20:21:18) * 2012-03-27 - drop inactive maintainers from packages. (nirik, 20:21:18) * 2012-04-01 - nag fi-apprentices. (nirik, 20:21:18) * 2012-04-03 - F17Beta release day (nirik, 20:21:18) * 2011-04-03 - gitweb-cache removal day. (nirik, 20:21:18) * 2012-04-10 - drop inactive fi-apprentices (nirik, 20:21:20) * 2012-04-24 to 2012-05-08 - F17 Final Freeze. (nirik, 20:21:22) * 2012-05-01 - nag fi-apprentices. (nirik, 20:21:24) * 2012-05-08 - F17 release (nirik, 20:21:26) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/browser/architecture/Environ… (nirik, 20:21:50) * ACTION: nirik to talk to alt groups about new fedorapeople space (nirik, 20:26:51) * fedorapeople outage monday night to move to new host. (nirik, 20:27:07) * Tickets from Ages past (nirik, 20:36:47) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/1?sort=created&asc=1 is the full list in age order (nirik, 20:37:14) * LINK: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/<packagename> (nirik, 20:47:36) * Open Floor (nirik, 20:49:27) * ACTION: smooge to get mediawiki packages setup. (nirik, 21:04:22) Meeting ended at 21:05:36 UTC. Action Items ------------ * CodeBlock to work on fixing speed issues with dpsearch. * nirik to talk to alt groups about new fedorapeople space * smooge to get mediawiki packages setup. Action Items, by person ----------------------- * CodeBlock * CodeBlock to work on fixing speed issues with dpsearch. * nirik * nirik to talk to alt groups about new fedorapeople space * smooge * smooge to get mediawiki packages setup. * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * nirik (136) * skvidal (112) * smooge (22) * wolfkit (13) * zodbot (11) * dgilmore (11) * marcelk1985 (10) * abadger1999 (8) * CodeBlock (7) * davevz (4) * pingou (3) * daMaestro (2) * lmacken (1) * ricky (0) * mdomsch (0) * Codeblock (0) -- 20:00:02 <nirik> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2012-03-22) 20:00:02 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Mar 22 20:00:02 2012 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:00:02 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 20:00:03 <nirik> #meetingname infrastructure 20:00:03 <nirik> #topic Robot Roll Call 20:00:03 <nirik> #chair smooge skvidal Codeblock ricky nirik abadger1999 lmacken dgilmore mdomsch 20:00:03 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure' 20:00:03 <zodbot> Current chairs: Codeblock abadger1999 dgilmore lmacken mdomsch nirik ricky skvidal smooge 20:00:06 * skvidal is here 20:00:08 <CodeBlock> here 20:00:09 <nirik> who all is around for a infra meeting? 20:00:09 * lmacken 20:00:16 <smooge> I am here 20:00:24 <CodeBlock> hating on openshift and etherpad. but here. 20:00:24 * pingou not there 20:00:40 <skvidal> CodeBlock: talk to me in #noc 20:00:52 <dgilmore> buenos tadres amigos 20:01:02 <nirik> pingou: does that mean you are here if you aren't there? ;) 20:01:07 <davevz> here 20:01:47 <marcelk1985> hey 20:01:50 <marcelk1985> i am here 20:01:54 * abadger1999 here 20:02:10 <nirik> welcome everyone. Lets go ahead and get started... 20:02:14 <pingou> nirik: I'm here but I won't be shortly :) 20:02:18 <nirik> #topic New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks. 20:02:18 <nirik> If any new folks want to give a quick one line bio or any apprentices 20:02:18 <nirik> would like to ask general questions, they can do so now. Anyone? 20:03:24 <marcelk1985> I have the feeling that almost all the easyfix tickets are coding related :-( Am i looking in the wrong place? 20:03:36 <marcelk1985> Or am I just out of luck 20:03:42 <nirik> marcelk1985: they shouldn't be... 20:03:48 <nirik> but I can try and file a few more... 20:04:08 <nirik> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/14 should be the sysadmin type ones. 20:04:25 <nirik> note that when they are assigned, sometimes that person has moved on, and it's not really getting worked on. 20:04:30 <pingou> the easyfix page shows them all :) 20:04:39 <marcelk1985> And I had a link regarding ssh access and that kind of starter info, which I seem to have lost 20:04:41 <nirik> pingou: yeah. link? 20:04:58 <nirik> marcelk1985: should be off the apprentice page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure_Apprentice 20:05:37 <marcelk1985> cool 20:05:38 <nirik> marcelk1985: see me in admin after the meeting and I can answer any of those getting started type questions. ;) 20:05:58 <davevz> I've been looking into a ticket for a day or two (3094) is it possible to get it assigned to me? Or should I just comment when I have something ready 20:06:05 <skvidal> yes 20:06:06 <skvidal> that 20:06:09 <skvidal> comment when ready 20:06:13 <skvidal> .ticket 3094 20:06:15 <zodbot> skvidal: #3094 (Assigning a default acl to the pkgs repo) – Fedora Infrastructure - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/3094 20:06:53 <davevz> right thanks 20:07:16 <nirik> I'd ping abadger1999 on questions on that... or ask in ticket. 20:07:29 <davevz> will do 20:07:47 <nirik> cool. 20:08:00 <abadger1999> <nod> 20:08:00 <nirik> any other questions on apprentice tickets or new folks? if not, will move on... 20:08:27 <nirik> #topic two factor auth status 20:08:30 <nirik> Any news here? 20:08:37 * nirik looks to see who was doing what 20:09:04 <nirik> wolfkit was going to look at pam_url... 20:09:07 <wolfkit> unfortunately I haven't finished hacking on pam_url yet 20:09:23 <nirik> wolfkit: ok. No worries. Running into blockers? or just haven't had time... 20:09:25 <wolfkit> I am planning to try to hack it all this weekend 20:09:31 <skvidal> wolfkit: cool 20:09:34 <skvidal> wolfkit: thanks, btw 20:09:38 <skvidal> also a bit more info 20:09:46 <skvidal> totp.cgi that icon wrote 20:09:51 <skvidal> he's having some people look it over, too 20:09:54 <wolfkit> no blockers, the code seems pretty sane, but been under a crunch with other things 20:09:59 <skvidal> dotted t's and crossed i's and all that 20:10:08 <nirik> excellent. 20:10:12 <skvidal> wolfkit: the biggest concerns about the code are 20:10:22 <skvidal> 1. some of the functions used are 'odd' 20:10:26 <skvidal> 2. memory leaks 20:10:38 <skvidal> 3. a bit of how the user/password are submitted 20:10:40 <wolfkit> yeah 20:10:50 <skvidal> if the first 2 are solvable, easily 20:10:55 <skvidal> that would be a big win 20:11:24 * skvidal is done 20:11:32 * nirik nods. 20:11:36 <nirik> Sounds great. 20:11:42 <nirik> ok, moving along then... 20:11:44 <wolfkit> will try to get things done this weekend and talk in -admin with questions/concerns 20:11:56 <nirik> #topic Staging re-work status 20:12:07 <nirik> I want to wait until after the freeze to finish this up... 20:12:16 <marcelk1985> okay 20:12:22 <nirik> I need to document things and then switch over all the staging boxes. 20:12:36 <nirik> more info as we get closer to that. 20:12:47 <skvidal> wolfkit: thanks 20:13:02 <nirik> #info will work on finishing this after the beta freeze. 20:13:12 <nirik> #topic Applications status / discussion 20:13:27 <nirik> lmacken / abadger1999 / pingou / threebean: any application side news or info? 20:13:48 <nirik> I'd like to note that we have darkserver deployed now. 20:14:07 <smooge> yay 20:14:10 <abadger1999> not really -- back from pycon where I worked on mailman3 stuff -- that'll all result in long term stuff but nothing immediately. 20:14:11 <nirik> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Darkserver and https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Darkserver 20:14:38 <abadger1999> threebean had a messaging meeting earlier this week and it looks to be shaping up. 20:15:32 <nirik> I may decommission darkserver01.dev and darkserver01.stg... there shouldn't be much development moving forward and our stg env isn't good enough to really test it there. 20:15:44 <nirik> #info darkserver is deployed in production now. 20:15:58 <abadger1999> I'd like to see API docs/simple example on that and maybe a notification server at some point... the latter would let us start pulling various notification (via email) things out of the individual web apps at the same time as we put in the event hooks. 20:16:03 <nirik> #info messaging work is moving forward, there was a meeting on it earlier this week. 20:17:00 <nirik> #info logs from the messaging sig meeting at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/meetbot/fedora-meeting/2012-03-20/messagin… 20:17:08 * CodeBlock updates a bit on search: I enabled crawling of fpeople and fhosted the other day, also enabled caching of search results to try to speed it up... But that's still a work in progress. It's slow...very slow, right now. 20:17:11 <nirik> abadger1999: I think having a small demo would be really good. 20:17:31 <abadger1999> <nod> 20:17:56 <abadger1999> I'd like it to be something that we can start deriving immediate value from :-) 20:17:56 <smooge> do we need someone with DB experience to see if its the queries or schema which is slowing it all down? 20:18:29 <nirik> CodeBlock: is it db related do you think? or ? 20:18:53 <nirik> #info dpsearch development instance at https://search-dev.fedoraproject.org/search.cgi 20:19:00 <CodeBlock> smooge: Probably wouldn't hurt to check that. I need to look into it more and ping/email daMaestro (who nirik said offered to help/has used dpsearch before) and possibly poke upstream and ask if they have any ideas 20:19:34 <nirik> #action CodeBlock to work on fixing speed issues with dpsearch. 20:20:13 <nirik> any other general application news or info? 20:20:59 <nirik> ok, moving along then... 20:21:06 <nirik> #topic Upcoming Tasks/Items 20:21:12 <nirik> (get ready for dump:) 20:21:18 <nirik> #info 2012-03-20 to 2012-04-03 - F17 Beta Freeze 20:21:18 <nirik> #info 2012-03-26 - 21UTC migrate fedorapeople.org 20:21:18 <nirik> #info 2012-03-27 - drop inactive maintainers from packages. 20:21:18 <nirik> #info 2012-04-01 - nag fi-apprentices. 20:21:18 <nirik> #info 2012-04-03 - F17Beta release day 20:21:18 <nirik> #info 2011-04-03 - gitweb-cache removal day. 20:21:20 <nirik> #info 2012-04-10 - drop inactive fi-apprentices 20:21:22 <nirik> #info 2012-04-24 to 2012-05-08 - F17 Final Freeze. 20:21:24 <nirik> #info 2012-05-01 - nag fi-apprentices. 20:21:26 <nirik> #info 2012-05-08 - F17 release 20:21:40 <nirik> a reminder that we are in Beta pre-release freeze. 20:21:50 <nirik> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/browser/architecture/Environ… 20:22:44 <nirik> anyone have anything they want to schedule or note thats upcoming? 20:23:17 <dgilmore> nope 20:23:26 <skvidal> fedorapeople outage 20:23:32 <skvidal> once it is done 20:23:38 <nirik> yeah... thats upcoming monday. 20:23:39 <skvidal> we'll have a bunch of new space where people can put stuff 20:23:49 <skvidal> it is for 'groups' or 'projects' 20:23:56 <skvidal> the space will be outside of the quota'd area 20:24:18 <skvidal> and all I wanted to say is that if anyone asks for space, unless they are obviously hosting something illegal or illicit, that our default answer should be 'yes' 20:24:36 <skvidal> but I am not sure we want to make it self-service 20:24:55 <nirik> should we look at moving the last two things we moved to alt back to this? anaconda images and live repins? 20:24:55 <skvidal> does anyone have any input on that? 20:25:07 <nirik> or does it matter? I guess not too much 20:25:29 <skvidal> nirik: I'm thinking moving things back from alt wouldn't be a bad idea 20:25:43 <skvidal> b/c it would mean we could remove people's accesses to alt 20:25:49 <skvidal> which seems like a good idea to me 20:25:50 <nirik> yeah. 20:26:05 <nirik> I'll talk to those groups about that. 20:26:51 <nirik> #action nirik to talk to alt groups about new fedorapeople space 20:26:58 <skvidal> cool. 20:27:07 <nirik> #info fedorapeople outage monday night to move to new host. 20:27:23 <skvidal> did anyone else have any input on the discussion about builders on infrastructure? 20:27:29 <smooge> skvidal, that sounds good to me 20:27:51 <smooge> skvidal, one thing.. various people I know who use alt also do "composes" and such on secondary to get to it. 20:27:52 <skvidal> it sounded to me, optimistically like we had general consensus 20:28:01 <skvidal> wait 20:28:01 <nirik> skvidal: I think it sounds good. Setting them up to reinstall automagically seems like a win. 20:28:06 <skvidal> people are doing composes on secondary? 20:28:18 <skvidal> nirik: cool 20:28:21 <smooge> well soemthing on secondary.. delta isos? 20:28:28 <nirik> smooge: they shouldn't be. Yes, deltaisos are made there. 20:28:35 <nirik> but thats all I know of that runs on there. 20:28:57 <skvidal> so I would not be pleased with deltaisos being made on fedorapeople 20:29:01 <nirik> right. 20:29:03 <skvidal> but making them somewhere else in phx2 20:29:09 <skvidal> and xferring to people should be pretty quick 20:29:15 <abadger1999> skvidal: Your initial email seemed to outline the pros and cons well -- I haven't had a chance to read throught hte rest of the thread. 20:29:26 <nirik> I think making them on secondary still is ok... 20:29:52 <skvidal> nirik: ok 20:30:12 <nirik> we don't need to move everything off alt... just groups that would be ok with using people instead 20:30:14 <nirik> IMHO 20:30:23 <skvidal> nod 20:30:24 <skvidal> +1 20:30:39 <skvidal> i suspect, though, in the future people will be a simpler solution than alt for anumber of things 20:30:56 <nirik> yeah. The only downside is no mirroring... 20:31:19 <skvidal> I agree 20:31:35 <skvidal> nirik: with that in mind - we could discuss mirroring the people space 20:31:40 <skvidal> well not mirroring 20:31:43 <skvidal> but duplicating it 20:31:55 <nirik> yeah. Can look into that. 20:32:01 <skvidal> we've discussed it before and maybe with gluster... 20:32:05 <skvidal> it could be worth considering 20:32:17 <nirik> gluster would only really work if it's in the same datacenter... 20:32:22 <skvidal> right 20:32:29 <skvidal> which is the only downside to ibiblio really 20:32:55 <nirik> We should all ponder on that some more and see what we think.... 20:33:02 <skvidal> nod 20:33:17 <skvidal> and we should nag the gluster people to make wan's more possible :) 20:33:18 <nirik> it might be worth rsyncing it to have another remote node as a warm spare... 20:33:38 <nirik> and/or spin up one in the euca cluster once thats running. ;) 20:33:45 <skvidal> okay 20:33:56 <skvidal> if we want to do that... 20:34:03 <nirik> anyhow, we can think about it... 20:34:04 <skvidal> feels like we would want a constant backup of global 20:34:25 <skvidal> I'd be onboard with using older hw to do that. 20:35:01 <daMaestro> yeah, I can help with dpsearch 20:35:06 * nirik wants to think about it some more I think... see if we can come up with something clever and/or more useful. 20:35:29 <nirik> daMaestro: great. See CodeBlock after meeting? 20:35:53 <CodeBlock> :) 20:35:57 <skvidal> nirik: okay. i'm open to suggestions. replicating all that data is tricky 20:36:16 <nirik> yep. agreed. 20:36:21 <nirik> ok, moving along then... 20:36:47 <nirik> #topic Tickets from Ages past 20:36:59 <nirik> anyone have any old ticket they would like us to discuss and dispatch? ;) 20:37:14 <nirik> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/1?sort=created&asc=1 is the full list in age order 20:37:15 <daMaestro> nirik, sounds good; and yea i just ran a test query and ouch 20:37:48 <CodeBlock> Yeah it got really slow .. pretty much all of a sudden, and I'm not sure why 20:38:00 <skvidal> I would like to declare that the age of a majority of a ticket is 3yrs - if it is older than that it is a full adult and should go free 20:38:36 <nirik> skvidal: not a bad plan. I was pinging some of the older ones and asking for update and closing after a bit... 20:39:43 <nirik> .ticket 2572 20:39:45 <zodbot> nirik: #2572 (Consider using Eucalyptus for test VM hosting) – Fedora Infrastructure - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2572 20:39:55 <nirik> should we close that with 'thanks, we are going to set one up' ? 20:39:59 <wolfkit> nirik: #503 seems silly, it was closed at wontfix twice already and I don't think 'new ticket' should be visible for people who aren't logged in 20:39:59 <skvidal> hee hee 20:40:00 <skvidal> yes 20:40:14 <wolfkit> .ticket 503 20:40:16 <zodbot> wolfkit: #503 (fedorahosted: trac: new ticket) – Fedora Infrastructure - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/503 20:41:08 <nirik> I suppose we could package that plugin... 20:41:28 <nirik> but yes, its old and seems silly. 20:41:53 <smooge> Can I close tickets.. please. I would feel useful. 20:42:30 <nirik> or there may be some newer way to solve it with the new trac? 20:42:50 <nirik> smooge: I would say we can close 2572 20:43:17 <nirik> .ticket 2134 20:43:18 <zodbot> nirik: #2134 (Ticket email notification (Cc) should recognize FAS usernames) – Fedora Infrastructure - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2134 20:43:41 <nirik> 2134 can also be closed. I think they want all fas accounts to work even if they have no alias, but I don't see how we could allow that to work easily. 20:44:38 <nirik> any other ones for the axe? ;) 20:45:06 <nirik> .ticket 2352 20:45:08 <zodbot> nirik: #2352 (inotifier - make fedora-updates-push (and other such rsync scripts) smarter) – Fedora Infrastructure - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2352 20:45:16 <nirik> can be closed with: please talk to the messaging sig? 20:45:23 <nirik> or was that more specific... 20:46:42 <smooge> well its looking for inotify and such 20:46:46 <wolfkit> .ticket 668 also seems silly and unnecessary 20:46:46 <zodbot> wolfkit: Error: '668 also seems silly and unnecessary' is not a valid integer. 20:46:51 <wolfkit> woops 20:46:53 <wolfkit> .ticket 668 20:46:54 <zodbot> wolfkit: #668 (packages.fedoraproject.org/ alias for https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packages/name/ ) – Fedora Infrastructure - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/668 20:47:29 <nirik> wolfkit: hey, we already have this. ;) 20:47:36 <nirik> https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/<packagename> 20:47:51 <wolfkit> aah, so can be closed as fixed then! 20:47:58 <nirik> yes. please do. ;) 20:48:01 <smooge> closed 20:48:04 <nirik> smooge: thanks 20:48:18 <smooge> hmm zodbot isn't yelling about me closing tickets 20:48:34 <wolfkit> that should kind of be fixed instead wontfix, but ok 20:48:56 <nirik> smooge: it will. oh it will 20:49:23 <nirik> ok, thats some good old ticket slaying for the day. ;) 20:49:27 <nirik> #topic Open Floor 20:49:40 <nirik> anyone have any items for open floor? questions? concerns? 20:50:42 <skvidal> I have a couple 20:50:45 <skvidal> well just one 20:50:45 <marcelk1985> ditto 20:50:47 <nirik> skvidal: fire away 20:51:01 <skvidal> so this has come up again and I'm curious folks' feelings on it 20:51:19 <skvidal> if we moved to a model where we wanted to ssh into a machine as root - only using an ssh key and only from a specific system 20:51:26 <skvidal> how would we feel about that? 20:51:30 <skvidal> bad? 20:51:32 <skvidal> horrible? 20:51:34 <marcelk1985> scary 20:51:52 <nirik> somewhat scary, but not 'run and hide under the table' 20:52:33 <skvidal> I'm torn on it 20:52:41 <skvidal> and I'm working on a workaround for it 20:52:47 <dgilmore> skvidal: im pretty torn 20:53:10 <nirik> well, we sorta already have that with funcd right? it's a root process that we connect to from a specific machine and make it do things? 20:53:10 <dgilmore> can we not use sudo for something 20:53:18 <skvidal> nirik: yes 20:53:25 <skvidal> dgilmore: so sudo is a difficulty in some ways 20:53:29 <skvidal> but it is part of a workaround 20:53:32 <skvidal> here's the gist 20:53:37 <skvidal> to streamline our install process 20:53:55 <skvidal> I would like to do 20:54:02 <skvidal> virt-install/kickstart 20:54:04 <skvidal> monitor for ssh 20:54:07 <skvidal> ssh in as root 20:54:15 <skvidal> fix up the host in a myriad of ways 20:54:28 <skvidal> and have this all automated - not requiring someone to log in and muck with the system 20:54:38 <skvidal> AFTER the first puppet run, though 20:54:44 <skvidal> you cannot connect back in as root 20:54:58 <skvidal> so sudo Might be possible 20:55:01 <nirik> huh... is there possibly a way to boot single and talk to it via libvirt / serial / 20:55:06 <skvidal> but sudo + python_paramiko is.... interesting 20:55:09 <skvidal> nirik: no 20:55:17 <skvidal> nirik: that would expect-based and extremely fragile 20:55:31 <dgilmore> skvidal: any reason we cant just do the fixups in %post of kickstart 20:55:36 <skvidal> nirik: and it would mean a different system for our hw and vm hosts 20:55:39 <skvidal> dgilmore: yes 20:55:49 <skvidal> dgilmore: we're talking about shoving the right root pw across that connection 20:55:58 <skvidal> I don't want the rootpw in our kickstarts 20:56:15 <marcelk1985> Ok I have to punch out. Sorry. I will read the meeting's minutes. I will post the question I had to the mailing list 20:56:28 <nirik> marcelk1985: sorry for going long. Please do... 20:56:34 <dgilmore> skvidal: have %post fetch a script from infra.fp.o 20:56:37 <dgilmore> and run that 20:56:43 <dgilmore> though its still in there 20:56:46 <skvidal> yes 20:56:48 <skvidal> which is the problem 20:56:50 <nirik> skvidal: randomly generate and notify people what it is? 20:56:55 <skvidal> how does that help? 20:57:18 <nirik> well, it's not in the ks then... but notifying could be not so great if it was email. 20:57:19 <skvidal> nirik: and how would you notify? 20:57:22 <dgilmore> disable roots passwd 20:57:22 <skvidal> right 20:57:27 <skvidal> okay 20:57:38 <skvidal> so we're off in the weeds 20:57:42 <nirik> yeah, sorry. 20:57:44 <dgilmore> skvidal: what about if the script got func running and we did it that way? 20:57:50 <skvidal> can't do that 20:57:50 <dgilmore> sorry making noise now 20:57:56 <skvidal> anyway 20:57:59 <skvidal> I'm going to work on a solution 20:58:08 <skvidal> and if everyone hates me for it 20:58:09 <skvidal> great 20:58:19 <smooge> what if people just hate you :) 20:58:20 <nirik> you thrive on hate? :) 20:58:20 <skvidal> but if not 20:58:25 <skvidal> so much so 20:59:04 <skvidal> anyway - I'll figure it out 20:59:08 <skvidal> and y'all can poke holes in it later 20:59:09 <nirik> ok 20:59:12 <smooge> I have one item 20:59:19 <nirik> smooge: go ahead 20:59:36 <smooge> mediawiki118 has had some security updates.. will get that packaged up today. 119 will probably be out RSN. 21:00:08 <nirik> should we just target 119 then? 21:00:14 <smooge> I am wanting input on how to handle this.. they are giving these releases something like a 1 year lifetime.. which doesn't work well with EPEL 21:00:59 <nirik> yeah, thats not very ideal... 21:01:03 <smooge> I will have 119 packaged up also soon. getting plugins and such is a fun fun thing 21:01:15 <nirik> but you could just leave a trail of old ones and keep going on the new ones... 21:01:20 * nirik is happy to try and help review. 21:01:51 <nirik> I guess we could just switch to only doing our own for infra. 21:01:54 <smooge> yeah.. I didn't know if that worked well either. Blech.. I can see all our web infrastructure in openshift at this rate 21:02:11 <nirik> but then we lose out on all the other people who might use/help/fix it 21:02:15 <smooge> because webstuff don't like to be stable more than a week 21:02:38 <skvidal> nirik: I think there's a happy medium betwee nthere 21:02:43 <skvidal> our own pkgs for stuff which obscure 21:02:49 <skvidal> public ones for stuff that's more common 21:02:52 <skvidal> (like mediawiki) 21:02:57 <nirik> yeah. 21:03:21 <nirik> if we skip like we have been... 116 -> 119 perhaps thats enough time for a epel package to be worth doing... 21:03:35 <smooge> we went from 112 to 116 21:03:46 <smooge> or was it 110 21:04:01 <smooge> anyway.. I will get them ready for people to look at today. 21:04:07 <smooge> tomorrowish. 21:04:09 <smooge> eol 21:04:22 <nirik> #action smooge to get mediawiki packages setup. 21:04:37 <nirik> ok, anything else? or shall we call it a meeting? 21:04:59 * CodeBlock has to head to class, so either way, I'm out :) 21:05:03 * nirik will close in a minute if nothing else comes up. 21:05:05 * wolfkit calls smooge a meeting. :) 21:05:33 <nirik> thanks for coming everyone! 21:05:36 <nirik> #endmeeting

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Minutes/Summary from today's irc support sig meeting (2012-03-22)
by Kevin Fenzi 22 Mar '12

22 Mar '12

============================================= #fedora-meeting: IRC Support SIG (2012-03-22) ============================================= Meeting started by nirik at 17:00:01 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-03-22/irc-support-sig.… . Meeting summary --------------- * init process (nirik, 17:00:02) * Week in review (nirik, 17:03:20) * LINK: http://fedora.theglaserfamily.org/ircstats/fedora-weekly.html (nirik, 17:03:20) * LINK: https://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2208 (is the rpmfusion bug btw) (nirik, 17:05:49) * Tickets (nirik, 17:06:56) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/report/1 (nirik, 17:06:57) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/102 (nirik, 17:07:17) * Open Floor (nirik, 17:16:41) Meeting ended at 17:18:38 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * nirik (38) * FranciscoD (14) * dcr226 (10) * EvilBob (9) * Khaytsus (7) * Sonar_Gal (4) * Discordian (4) * zodbot (3) * Southern_Gentlem (3) * fenrus02 (2) * jeevan_ullas (1) * glguy (1) -- 17:00:01 <nirik> #startmeeting IRC Support SIG (2012-03-22) 17:00:01 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Mar 22 17:00:01 2012 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:00:01 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 17:00:01 <nirik> #meetingname irc-support-sig 17:00:02 <nirik> #topic init process 17:00:02 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'irc-support-sig' 17:01:04 * dcr226 is gonna party like its nineteen-ninety-nine 17:01:16 * nirik waits for more folks to wander in 17:01:33 * Discordian grabs a seat 17:01:34 * FranciscoD walks in and sits in the corner on his stool 17:01:34 * jeevan_ullas waves 17:02:31 * nirik hands out free bacon 17:02:44 <FranciscoD> *chomp* 17:02:45 * Khaytsus noms 17:03:14 <nirik> ok, lets dive on in then... 17:03:20 <nirik> #topic Week in review 17:03:20 <nirik> http://fedora.theglaserfamily.org/ircstats/fedora-weekly.html 17:03:56 * nirik sees he's down at 10. :) Been a busy week for me at dayjob... 17:04:06 <nirik> anyone have anything they would like to report from the previous week? 17:04:22 <Discordian> One change I've noticed this week is that we are getting a lot of questions about catalyst cos it doesn't run under later kernels 17:04:26 * Southern_Gentlem 17:04:43 <nirik> Discordian: yeah. 17:04:54 <nirik> all we can do is point them to the rpmfusion bug... 17:05:00 <Discordian> Indeed 17:05:11 <nirik> and suggest they stay on the old kernel, or (re)try radeon again. 17:05:30 <Discordian> Yep it's been what I've done 17:05:48 <Southern_Gentlem> and complain to ati 17:05:49 <nirik> https://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2208 (is the rpmfusion bug btw) 17:06:28 <nirik> ok, anything else from last week? 17:06:51 <nirik> ok, moving along... 17:06:56 <nirik> #topic Tickets 17:06:57 <nirik> https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/report/1 17:07:10 <nirik> we actually have only 1 ticket... I forgot to close the other one last week. ;) 17:07:17 <nirik> https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/102 17:07:20 <EvilBob> I got the winning ticket! What is my prize? 17:07:26 <EvilBob> ;) 17:07:29 <Khaytsus> Mouldy cheese. 17:07:39 * dcr226 passes EvilBob a "special" present 17:08:06 <nirik> so, what can we learn or change from this? 17:08:27 <EvilBob> The user in question is an odd duck, happy one second filing a complaint the next 17:08:29 <nirik> I guess some people are uncomfortable with joking/etc... but it's hard to know that when they don't mention it in channel 17:08:56 <EvilBob> nirik: If you look at the full log you will even see he made some jokes himself? 17:09:15 <Southern_Gentlem> nirik, this person was a special case in the first place he was helped and didnt like the answers 17:09:57 * dcr226 notes the original posted hasn't actually re-commented on the ticket...perhaps he's happy now he's vented? 17:09:58 <nirik> so, I would advise: a) tell folks to use /ignore if they don't want to interact with someone, b) ask them to note when the jokes are bothering them... just ask to go back to the technical question... c) I think this may be another case of pileon... ie, too many people telling them the same answers... 17:10:03 <dcr226> s/posted/poster 17:10:05 <nirik> dcr226: could be 17:10:21 <EvilBob> nirik: I went backt o the technical issue 17:10:35 <FranciscoD> Unfortunately, I think we need to quit doing anything other than answering questions blindly. People taking offence over jokes is getting frequent 17:10:38 <FranciscoD> :/ 17:10:50 * FranciscoD only jokes with folks he knows. 17:10:55 <nirik> yeah. So, I'd say lets all try and be aware when we might be coming off as unfriendly... and thank the user for their feedback. 17:11:01 <EvilBob> nirik: I continued to help the user even much later in the 24hr period 17:11:03 <FranciscoD> To new folks, I ask questions, answer and suggest. But that's it. 17:11:04 <dcr226> nirik, +1 17:11:15 <nirik> EvilBob: yeah, I saw that... they thanked you and seemed very happy. Odd. 17:11:53 * nirik really doesn't think banning all jokes would help... makes the channel too impersonal and unfun. 17:12:04 <FranciscoD> yeah, but lets limit them to folks we know 17:12:15 <FranciscoD> I mean, that way we know the receiver can take the joking 17:12:23 <EvilBob> FranciscoD: I refuse 17:12:27 <dcr226> nirik, can I do my bacon slicer joke? 17:12:48 <FranciscoD> EvilBob: i didnt expect you to agree. But you do see how folks end up taking offence at small bits :/ 17:12:54 <Khaytsus> As pointed out, the technical advice was right, the subsequent beating up on the user was all wrong. 17:13:01 <EvilBob> FranciscoD: people need to lighten up 17:13:02 * Sonar_Gal is here for a few 17:13:10 <FranciscoD> EvilBob: you can't force that upon them 17:13:36 <EvilBob> If people can't lighten up and be friendly then they need tickets perhaps? 17:13:49 <Khaytsus> Advice is like handing out chocolates. You can't make someone eat it, and if they throw it away, well, they just don't get any more. 17:13:56 <FranciscoD> aye 17:14:04 <Sonar_Gal> some people are like that and don't like the joking and kidding around 17:14:07 <glguy> There is joking and insulting and sometimes the line between the two gets crossed 17:14:14 <Sonar_Gal> Save that for -social 17:14:27 <nirik> EvilBob: yeah, but when you see someone like that, no need to try and push more on them... but I agree it's hard to know that when they don't say it... 17:14:35 <FranciscoD> glguy: the issue is that different people have different lines ;) 17:15:13 <nirik> yes, they do. 17:15:24 <Khaytsus> Personally this whole "ubuntu community help is great" thing I'm not seeing, any time I watch their IRC channel watching for cross-channel trolling it's nothing but nonsense in there. Perhaps the community help isn't done in the IRC channel.. 17:15:33 <nirik> I'll note it takes two sides... one to give offense, and one to take it. ;) 17:15:33 * fenrus02 brings bacon to the meeting (because he's late) 17:15:45 <dcr226> this issue is the ticket...which IIRC has been resolved as "thanks for the feedback". If thats the case, move on 17:15:51 <nirik> yep. 17:15:56 <FranciscoD> aye aye 17:15:58 <nirik> anything else on this before we move on? 17:16:02 <Khaytsus> nirik: Just like a gift, one can choose not to acept it. 17:16:31 <nirik> Khaytsus: yep. 17:16:41 <nirik> #topic Open Floor 17:16:46 <nirik> anyone have any items for open floor? 17:16:56 * dcr226 slides across the open floor on his knees 17:17:11 <Khaytsus> dcr226: This ain't your day off, Beuller 17:17:17 * Sonar_Gal thinks dcr226 slid a bit to far since he crashed into the wall 17:17:22 <dcr226> hahaha 17:17:26 <FranciscoD> he's just facewalling 17:17:31 <dcr226> Sonar_Gal, I meant to do that :D 17:17:58 <fenrus02> planking taken +1 level. 17:18:11 <nirik> ok, closing in a minute then. 17:18:34 <nirik> thanks for coming everyone. 17:18:38 <nirik> #endmeeting

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FUDCon KL Meeting Minutes :: 2012-03-22
by Maverick 22 Mar '12

22 Mar '12

Hey folks, Thanks for attending the third FUDCon Planning Meeting for Kuala Lumpur today. Following is the meeting summary; Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fudcon-planning/2012-03-22/fudcon_kl_2012.… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fudcon-planning/2012-03-22/fudcon_kl_2012.… ======================== #fudcon-planning Meeting ======================== Meeting started by KageSenshi at 14:06:46 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fudcon-planning/2012-03-22/fudcon_kl_2012.… . Meeting summary --------------- * roll call (KageSenshi, 14:07:28) * Agenda : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:KualaLumpur_2012/Meeting:2012-03-22 (KageSenshi, 14:09:26) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:KualaLumpur_2012/Meeting:2012-03-22 (KageSenshi, 14:09:38) * announcements (KageSenshi, 14:09:52) * FUDCon KL 2012 site is now launched : http://fedora.my/events/fudconkl2012/ (KageSenshi, 14:10:22) * FUDCon KL logo has been selected, designed by bckurera (KageSenshi, 14:10:52) * do spread the news about the site, and register there :) (KageSenshi, 14:11:12) * those who submitted talks, please send KageSenshi your photo and profile for listing as speaker on the site (KageSenshi, 14:11:47) * Review actions from last meeting (KageSenshi, 14:12:24) * KageSenshi have met RaymondTai from RH-APAC last tuesday .. passed the link to the press release for review by RH-APAC (KageSenshi, 14:17:07) * they will get back to us in a few days time (KageSenshi, 14:17:24) * ACTION: KageSenshi to get updates on press release approval by RH-APAC (KageSenshi, 14:17:47) * LINK: http://goo.gl/rRVyg budget document is here (KageSenshi, 14:18:15) * Thanks to UCTI/APIIT .. our venue is 100% free of charge :) (KageSenshi, 14:22:11) * ACTION: sniffit to suggest food allocation for vlnt during prep day (KageSenshi, 14:30:08) * ACTION: MavJS and sniffit to figure out how many vlnts will be around during prep-day , and allocate budget for meals (KageSenshi, 14:32:41) * ACTION: KageSenshi to add cost for printing 75 badges (KageSenshi, 14:39:44) * Questions/Decisions (KageSenshi, 14:44:35) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/query?status=new&status=assigned&s… (KageSenshi, 14:44:54) * There will be a meeting for funding approval tomorrow, at 14:00 UTC in #fudcon-planning (KageSenshi, 14:51:19) * ACTION: MavJS to send mail to fudcon-planning about tomorrow's funding approval meeting. (MavJS, 14:51:45) * ACTION: KageSenshi to write a blog post reminding about funding approval meeting (KageSenshi, 14:52:02) * ACTION: MavJS to reply to funding request tickets about funding approval meeting tomorrow (KageSenshi, 14:52:45) * (KageSenshi, 14:57:22) * new action items (KageSenshi, 14:57:25) * open floor (KageSenshi, 15:01:57) * harish mentioned that press release have been approved, and rh send the press release over (KageSenshi, 15:03:42) * ACTION: KageSenshi to get ppl to get some flyers design ready (KageSenshi, 15:04:59) * webcampkl is next week (KageSenshi, 15:05:10) * hackweekend is this weekend (KageSenshi, 15:05:19) * ACTION: KageSenshi to buzz the mailing list to see if theres anybody going to hackweekend, we should promote it there .. (KageSenshi, 15:06:18) Meeting ended at 15:09:38 UTC. Action Items ------------ * KageSenshi to get updates on press release approval by RH-APAC * sniffit to suggest food allocation for vlnt during prep day * MavJS and sniffit to figure out how many vlnts will be around during prep-day , and allocate budget for meals * KageSenshi to add cost for printing 75 badges * MavJS to send mail to fudcon-planning about tomorrow's funding approval meeting. * KageSenshi to write a blog post reminding about funding approval meeting * MavJS to reply to funding request tickets about funding approval meeting tomorrow * KageSenshi to get ppl to get some flyers design ready * KageSenshi to buzz the mailing list to see if theres anybody going to hackweekend, we should promote it there .. Action Items, by person ----------------------- * KageSenshi * KageSenshi to get updates on press release approval by RH-APAC * KageSenshi to add cost for printing 75 badges * KageSenshi to write a blog post reminding about funding approval meeting * KageSenshi to get ppl to get some flyers design ready * KageSenshi to buzz the mailing list to see if theres anybody going to hackweekend, we should promote it there .. * MavJS * MavJS and sniffit to figure out how many vlnts will be around during prep-day , and allocate budget for meals * MavJS to send mail to fudcon-planning about tomorrow's funding approval meeting. * MavJS to reply to funding request tickets about funding approval meeting tomorrow * sniffit * sniffit to suggest food allocation for vlnt during prep day * MavJS and sniffit to figure out how many vlnts will be around during prep-day , and allocate budget for meals * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * KageSenshi (179) * MavJS (29) * sniffit (27) * sweemeng (27) * rbergeron (21) * zodbot (18) * tuanta (15) * harish (10) * choirboy (5) * FranciscoD (2) * meng (2) * kulll (2) * TYSSeries (1) * Alvisyu (1) -- Kind Regards, Maverick MavJS @ freenode.net https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Mavjs http://mavjs.github.com 7BFA DB9D D509 94AC 115B 1A0E E435 A5E3 A738 392D

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