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Fedora ARM weekly status meeting minutes 2013-02-20
by Paul Whalen 20 Feb '13

20 Feb '13

Thanks to those who were able to join us for the weekly status meeting today. For those that were unable, the minutes are posted below: Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-02-20/fedora-meeting… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-02-20/fedora-meeting… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-02-20/fedora-meeting… Paul =================================================== #fedora-meeting-1: Fedora ARM weekly status meeting =================================================== Meeting started by pwhalen at 21:00:15 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-02-20/fedora-meeting… . Meeting summary --------------- * 0) Status of ACTION items from our previous meeting (pwhalen, 21:02:00) * ONGOING - pwhalen, jonmasters, pbrobinson to work on kernel update compatibility coverage (pwhalen, 21:02:16) * COMPLETE - dgilmore, nirik, and pbrobinson to coordinate koji move (pwhalen, 21:02:28) * INPROGRESS - pbrobinson working on eclipse issue (pwhalen, 21:02:43) * LINK: last weeks meeting minutes - http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-02-13/fedora-meeting… (pwhalen, 21:05:11) * 1) Problem Packages (pwhalen, 21:06:13) * eclipse, java-1.7.0openjdk, kernel, python, gcc problems are nearly resolved (bconoboy, 21:07:47) * LINK: http://arm.koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=116111 (pwhalen, 21:08:23) * jonmasters has provided a fix for mongodb (bconoboy, 21:08:26) * llvm 3.2 is out, still has issues with hard float abi (bconoboy, 21:09:21) * LINK: Grubby segfaults when used with --default-kernel https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=912873 (bconoboy, 21:10:31) * ACTION: jonmasters to file bug report with llvm upstream community (bconoboy, 21:12:33) * 2) ARM Koji moved to Phoenix - Remaining changes, any issues encountered? (pwhalen, 21:13:50) * jonmasters to buy nirik a lot of his favorite beverage :) (jonmasters, 21:18:07) * There may still be an issue with buildroots expiring almost immediately after builds are finished- requires confirmation (bconoboy, 21:19:36) * 3) Mass rebuild - Status update (pwhalen, 21:27:51) * 4) ARM Tech Talks - suggestions for future talks (pwhalen, 21:33:45) * John Dulaney is doing a Chromebook Tech Talk this Fri (jonmasters, 21:34:36) * link for tech talks https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/Talks/ARMTechTalks (jonmasters, 21:36:19) * 5) Open Floor (pwhalen, 21:38:42) Meeting ended at 21:42:37 UTC. Action Items ------------ * jonmasters to file bug report with llvm upstream community Action Items, by person ----------------------- * jonmasters * jonmasters to file bug report with llvm upstream community * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * jonmasters (75) * pwhalen (43) * nirik (27) * bconoboy (21) * zodbot (12) * ctyler (5) * jcapik (5) * masta (4) * ahs3 (2) * seano (2) * j_dulaney (1) * dmarlin (1) * oatley (1) * pbrobinson (0) * dgilmore (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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FAmNA Meeting (19 Febuary 2013)
by inode0 20 Feb '13

20 Feb '13

====================== #fedora-meeting: FAMNA ====================== Meeting started by rbergeron at 02:07:09 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-02-20/famna.2013-02-20… . Meeting summary --------------- * Agenda for FAMNA meeting tonight (rbergeron, 02:07:49) * Agenda for tonight: (rbergeron, 02:09:34) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/famna/report/9 (inode0, 02:09:36) * Ticket #36 - FADNA (rbergeron, 02:10:36) * FADs need reports; if you have one, please post the link; if you haven't written anything, please do so! :) (rbergeron, 02:12:01) * (at least for funded folks, but anything else written is good as well) (rbergeron, 02:12:14) * Ticket #48 - Pycon + Ticket #52 - Sponsorship for Pycon (rbergeron, 02:13:18) * Herlo is looking for sponsorship for hotel room @ $750, is willing to share with someone (rbergeron, 02:14:05) * PyCon Event Page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PyCon_US_2013 (rbergeron, 02:15:21) * AGREED: Herlo approved for sponsorship for pycon; please try and find a roommate, check with kushal to see if you can split room :D (rbergeron, 02:27:03) * Ticket #49 - Northeast Linuxfest (rbergeron, 02:28:13) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/49 (rbergeron, 02:28:24) * Ticket #50 - Linuxfest Northwest - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/50 (rbergeron, 02:29:37) * ACTION: rbergeron to really make an event page, not sure who (if anyoen) else is going aside from jkeating (rbergeron, 02:30:58) * Other Business? (rbergeron, 02:35:02) * If you plan to speak at Texas Linux Fest or Southeast Linuxfest you should have your submission in by April 1 / 8 (respectively) (rbergeron, 02:40:53) * Both are very lovely events :) (rbergeron, 02:41:03) * ACTION: rbergero to see if she can track down sexycatsinhats / laptop, if that is the true location of the west coast thinkpad (rbergeron, 02:45:41) Meeting ended at 02:46:37 UTC. Action Items ------------ * rbergeron to really make an event page, not sure who (if anyoen) else is going aside from jkeating * rbergero to see if she can track down sexycatsinhats / laptop, if that is the true location of the west coast thinkpad Action Items, by person ----------------------- * rbergeron * rbergeron to really make an event page, not sure who (if anyoen) else is going aside from jkeating * **UNASSIGNED** * rbergero to see if she can track down sexycatsinhats / laptop, if that is the true location of the west coast thinkpad People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * rbergeron (87) * inode0 (26) * award3535 (24) * adamw (6) * zodbot (5) John

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2013-02-18 - Fedora QA Meeting - recap
by Adam Williamson 19 Feb '13

19 Feb '13

As always, minutes and IRC transcript available on the wiki at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20130218 Next meeting is scheduled for 2013-02-25 at 1600 UTC in #fedora-meeting. If you have topics you think we should bring up at the meeting, please add them to the Wiki page at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20130225 . Thanks! TOPIC: Automatic blocker proposal ======================================================================= * The proposal[1] was generally approved of by the group * It was agreed to add Andre's suggestions and more strongly emphasize other bugs cannot be made automatic blockers TOPIC: Blocker review process ======================================================================= * Limiting meetings to 3 hours and separating blocker review from QA meetings on Mondays seemed to work well during F18 cycle * viking-ice proposed using a dedicated channel for blocker review meetings instead of -qa or -bugzappers * tflink and kparal had concerns about having another channel to monitor, but adamw and viking pointed out this would mean not needing to use -bugzappers any more TOPIC: Open floor ======================================================================= * viking-ice wondered whether the nightly images were worth the effort of building: nirik said that building them is not much effort, and adamw and others said they were aware of some testing being done on them * viking-ice suggested we have a basic smoke test matrix that all spins must go through at least once before being promoted as part of a final release * cwickert said he had made a similar proposal before and supported the idea ACTION ITEMS ======================================================================= * adamw to write a second draft (of the automatic blocker proposal) with andre's proposed changes and stronger explanation not to put 'grey area' bugs in the automatic blocker list * adamw to draft up changes to the blocker bug meeting SOP for 3-hour hard limit, no-reviews-during-qa-meetings, and a dedicated channel for meetings, send to list for further discussion * viking-ice to discuss the 'smoke test for spins' idea further with nirik and cwickert 1. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2013-February/113840.html -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net

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Docs project meeting minutes - 18 Feb 2013
by Pete Travis 18 Feb '13

18 Feb '13

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 We had a meeting today, here's what happened: - - Sparks, rudi, and releng are working out a new publishing system for us. Sparks is showing admirable patience in responding to questions from the group, thanks. - - We would benefit from more involvement in beats writing - - Sparks wants to use some of the bug time in the meeting to discuss individual bugs filed against docs in general, and that meetings be used to assign bugs that are currently tasked to the group. There was a murmur of agreement, but the next topic unfortunately hijacked the group before we could discuss the bug he quoted. Sorry, Sparks, my bad. - - I'm going to change the default qa contact for all docs bugs to the docs-qa mailing list. Anyone that wants to do QA should take ownership of the bug, and anyone that wants direct assignment for QA should mail the list to discuss. - - I'm going to directly contact all default assignee contacts for docs bugs and remove anyone that is not responsive. - - Since we are expecting more involvement in QAing bugs, we should make sure the docs QA wiki pages make sense. Some concerns were expressed about the QA process, and may be expressed on the list sometime soon. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_QA http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_QA_Procedure At a glance, I see that we'd substitute the signing up for qa contact for a guide with instructions on finding ON_QA bugs in our docs, and perhaps more changes. Participation welcome. - -- If you aren't already, please subscribe to the docs-qa mailing list. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/docs-qa And, here's the summary: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-02-18/fedora- meeting.2013-02-18-14.00.log.txt http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora- meeting/2013-02-18/fedora_docs.2013-02-18-14.00.html http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora- meeting/2013-02-18/fedora_docs.2013-02-18-14.00.log.html http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora- meeting/2013-02-18/fedora_docs.2013-02-18-14.00.log.txt http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora- meeting/2013-02-18/fedora_docs.2013-02-18-14.00.txt =================================================================================================== #fedora-meeting: Docs Project Meeting - Agenda: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings =================================================================================================== Meeting started by randomuser` at 14:00:08 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora- meeting/2013-02-18/fedora_docs.2013-02-18-14.00.log.html . Meeting summary - --------------- * roll call (randomuser`, 14:00:26) * Follow up on action items (randomuser`, 14:05:46) * no left over action items (randomuser`, 14:06:25) * Docs Infrastructure (randomuser`, 14:06:49) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5214 (randomuser`, 14:10:32) * Sparks to investigate further (randomuser`, 14:10:43) * beat assignments (randomuser`, 14:21:39) * more beat writers would be nice (randomuser`, 14:28:17) * Outstanding BZ tickets (randomuser`, 14:28:32) * LINK: http://tinyurl.com/lbrq84 (randomuser`, 14:28:52) * doc-publican-rpm needs testing! (randomuser`, 14:32:09) * LINK: http://jjmcd.fedorapeople.org/Download/doc-publican-rpm/ (jjmcd, 14:33:01) * LINK: http://tinyurl.com/agh4mg6 (Sparks, 14:36:38) * anyone with concerns on docs process should mail the docs list about it (randomuser`, 15:02:04) * Free Play (randomuser`, 15:02:13) Meeting ended at 15:08:03 UTC. Action Items - ------------ Action Items, by person - ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) - --------------------------- * randomuser` (76) * Sparks (30) * pkovar (24) * jjmcd (15) * zodbot (4) * quaid (3) * bcotton (3) * Capesteve (3) * Akash (2) * nb (1) * LoKoMurdoK (1) * sparks (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 - -- - -- Pete Travis - Fedora Docs Project Leader - 'randomuser' on freenode - immanetize(a)fedoraproject.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRIk0gAAoJEL1wZM0+jj2Z31MH/R13Hn1TpZz58twrDOmVjgVX z1ydXg+/r4BK3OtVLK0vMKLj27PebYsCdgx0gGH+1t6A1CSeUcskc16vCeyHEcJE 0PvFYcuTB+baOeOQmstJ08Ou2swW27NoMoiQ8phZH32NvWeTyoQgBKHLsA4Bi+jU 0HBi3q8+DzToma4glA+Z3HvqFdPNYBQ4cAv/D6XWFIDHO5s61H6Rk5fOEg/ZwQoI nZzGfrwpxvVYtJbrE+lmC4ZEfer2scmUitE4nyrBAg8ZsK7niNPL1dN8hJ2Ig4pt GIQ9yKlenqE5oX7CkTCbLkdgciPfWYSrZaLViifHyy5tR4ZirHJofXyb8nF4l0U= =aHZO -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Fedora Chinese Meeting Minutes (2013-02-15)
by Alick Zhao 15 Feb '13

15 Feb '13

Hi all, The IRC meeting minutes tonight are available at here[1]. Thanks everyone for attending the meeting. In the meeting we review actions of last meetings and have free discussion. The next IRC meeting will be held on next Friday (2013-02-15). Please come and join the discussion if you can! We especially want to hear from lovenemesis and tiansworld :) [1] http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-zh/2013-02-15/fedora-zh.2013-02-15-… -- Alick Fedora 18 (Spherical Cow) user https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Alick

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i18n meeting summary (2013-02-14)
by Akira TAGOH 15 Feb '13

15 Feb '13

===================== #fedora-meeting: i18n ===================== Meeting started by tagoh_ at 06:02:39 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-02-14/i18n.2013-02-14-… . Meeting summary --------------- * agenda and roll call (tagoh_, 06:02:40) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2013-02-14 (tagoh_, 06:02:41) * Upcoming schedule (tagoh_, 06:07:41) * 2013-03-12 Feature Freeze--Planning & Development Ends (tagoh_, 06:07:42) * 2013-03-12 Branch Fedora 19 from Rawhide (tagoh_, 06:07:42) * 2013-04-02 Branch Freeze (tagoh_, 06:07:42) * 2013-04-02 Software String Freeze (tagoh_, 06:07:43) * 2013-04-02 Alpha Change Deadline (tagoh_, 06:07:43) * Outstanding topics (tagoh_, 06:10:25) * #12: language support installation command (pnemade) (tagoh_, 06:10:26) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/12 (tagoh_, 06:10:26) * #16: Improving testcases/matrix for i18n test day (tagoh) (tagoh_, 06:12:45) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/16 (tagoh_, 06:12:45) * ACTION: tagoh_ to send email for the draft of new test cases matrix (tagoh_, 06:14:17) * Outstanding task (tagoh_, 06:14:26) * #15: F19 Feature: libkkc (ueno) (tagoh_, 06:14:26) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/15 (tagoh_, 06:14:26) * New topic (tagoh_, 06:23:00) * #17: Fedora 19 i18n test day (aalam) (tagoh_, 06:23:01) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/17 (tagoh_, 06:23:01) * Open Floor (tagoh_, 07:11:36) Meeting ended at 07:14:56 UTC. Action Items ------------ * tagoh_ to send email for the draft of new test cases matrix Action Items, by person ----------------------- * tagoh_ * tagoh_ to send email for the draft of new test cases matrix * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * tagoh_ (80) * juhp (20) * aalamS (19) * paragan (5) * dueno (3) * zodbot (3) * anishpatil (1) * pravins (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Summary/Minutes from today's Fedora Infrastructure meeting (2013-02-14)
by Kevin Fenzi 14 Feb '13

14 Feb '13

============================================ #fedora-meeting: Infrastructure (2013-02-14) ============================================ Meeting started by nirik at 19:00:00 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-02-14/infrastructure.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * greetings and felicitations (nirik, 19:00:01) * New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks. (nirik, 19:02:08) * LINK: http://fedorahosted.org/copr (skvidal, 19:06:41) * Applications status / discussion (nirik, 19:08:31) * pingou working on a pkgdb update with db schema changes (nirik, 19:09:40) * authopenid testing with trac seems to show it works. (nirik, 19:10:32) * flask-fas-openid base is almost ready for use. Flask apps can then use fas-openid (nirik, 19:11:57) * partner-bugzilla has been updated. git HEAD python-bugzilla needed. We need to test all our bugzilla using applications against the new versions. (nirik, 19:13:15) * feedback wanted on FAS-OpenID (nirik, 19:16:35) * askbot in stg is fedmsg aware now (nirik, 19:16:47) * Sysadmin status / discussion (nirik, 19:20:58) * Rework of nagios underway. Phase 1 complete. (nirik, 19:21:34) * ACTION: puiterwijk will look into switching nagios to openid from mod_auth_pg (puiterwijk, 19:23:55) * smooge on site next week (mon/tue). (nirik, 19:25:26) * robots.txt on fedorahosted adjusted to prevent crawling load issues. (nirik, 19:25:41) * Private Cloud status update / discussion (nirik, 19:29:15) * cloudlet upgrades this week. openstack did ok, euca didn't upgrade nicely at all (nirik, 19:35:21) * work ongoing to get ec2 ssl working on openstack cloudlet (nirik, 19:37:13) * Upcoming Tasks/Items (nirik, 19:37:56) * 2013-02-18 to 2013-02-19 smooge on site at phx2. (nirik, 19:38:15) * 2013-02-28 end of 4th quarter (nirik, 19:38:15) * 2013-03-01 nag fi-apprentices (nirik, 19:38:15) * 2013-03-07 remove inactive apprentices. (nirik, 19:38:15) * 2013-03-19 to 2013-03-26 - koji update (nirik, 19:38:15) * 2013-03-29 - spring holiday. (nirik, 19:38:17) * 2013-04-02 to 2013-04-16 ALPHA infrastructure freeze (nirik, 19:38:19) * 2013-04-16 F19 alpha release (nirik, 19:38:20) * 2013-05-07 to 2013-05-21 BETA infrastructure freeze (nirik, 19:38:22) * 2013-05-21 F19 beta release (nirik, 19:38:24) * 2013-05-31 end of 1st quarter (nirik, 19:38:26) * 2013-06-11 to 2013-06-25 FINAL infrastructure freeze. (nirik, 19:38:28) * 2013-06-25 F19 FINAL release (nirik, 19:38:30) * Open Floor (nirik, 19:43:39) Meeting ended at 19:49:57 UTC. Action Items ------------ * puiterwijk will look into switching nagios to openid from mod_auth_pg Action Items, by person ----------------------- * puiterwijk * puiterwijk will look into switching nagios to openid from mod_auth_pg * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * nirik (120) * skvidal (62) * puiterwijk (26) * pingou (22) * abadger1999 (19) * knesenko (7) * tflink (6) * jsmith (5) * zodbot (4) * smooge (4) * Adran (4) * Ramesh_ (4) * threebean (2) * sontek (2) * ianweller (1) * lmacken (1) * relrod (1) * ricky (0) * mdomsch (0) * dgilmore (0) * CodeBlock (0) -- 19:00:00 <nirik> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2013-02-14) 19:00:00 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Feb 14 19:00:00 2013 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:00:00 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 19:00:01 <nirik> #meetingname infrastructure 19:00:01 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure' 19:00:01 <nirik> #topic greetings and felicitations 19:00:01 <nirik> #chair smooge skvidal CodeBlock ricky nirik abadger1999 lmacken dgilmore mdomsch threebean 19:00:01 <zodbot> Current chairs: CodeBlock abadger1999 dgilmore lmacken mdomsch nirik ricky skvidal smooge threebean 19:00:08 * skvidal is here ish 19:00:23 * puiterwijk 19:00:29 * lmacken ish 19:02:06 <nirik> ok, lets go ahead and dive in then 19:02:08 <nirik> #topic New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks. 19:02:16 <nirik> any new folks around? or apprentices with questions? 19:02:21 <knesenko> Hi all 19:02:26 <knesenko> I am new here 19:02:30 * pingou 19:02:48 <smooge> is here 19:02:52 * abadger1999 here 19:02:56 * Adran is here 19:03:04 <Adran> nirik: you answered my questions at least most of them this morning though. :) 19:03:11 <nirik> welcome knesenko. Care to introduce yourself? Are you more interested in sysadmin or application devel stuff? 19:03:16 <nirik> Adran: cool. ;) 19:03:21 <Ramesh_> hi, i am new here 19:03:52 <nirik> welcome Ramesh_ 19:04:16 <knesenko> Hi all. My name is Kiril. I have good exp. in Linux systems, RPM packaging etc .. . I am interested to maintain koji build systems. 19:04:57 <Ramesh_> Thanks nirik, i was in the infrastructure group before but due to acedemic load i was not able to contribute much 19:05:06 <knesenko> send "Hello" email to the infra email list last week . 19:05:26 <nirik> knesenko: welcome. not sure how much work the buildsys needs, but I'm sure we can try and find you something to work on... 19:05:44 * ianweller here 19:05:45 <nirik> Ramesh_: no worries. ;) are you more interested in sysadmin or application devel? 19:05:46 <knesenko> nirik: sysadmin is good as well :) 19:05:48 <pingou> copr? 19:06:04 * skvidal +1's that 19:06:11 <skvidal> we could use people working on copr 19:06:17 * nirik nods. :) 19:06:29 <skvidal> knesenko: it isn't koji - but it is a different buildsys we're working on 19:06:41 <skvidal> http://fedorahosted.org/copr 19:06:54 <Ramesh_> yeah i am interested in system admin stuff 19:06:55 <skvidal> knesenko: if you're interested - come by #fedora-apps 19:07:07 <skvidal> cccccccbjhtnjvrvvflvcvngijtcvrefrucenfibfvkb 19:07:11 <skvidal> hey look - my yubikey fired 19:07:12 <Adran> skvidal: cat? 19:07:15 <nirik> Ramesh_: cool. See me after the meeting in #fedora-admin and we can get you started. ;) 19:07:19 <Adran> oh even better, skvidal 19:07:33 <knesenko> skvidal: everything that is related to build systems I am interested :) 19:07:40 <Ramesh_> nirik: cool :) 19:07:46 <skvidal> knesenko: great - then take a look at what copr is for 19:07:50 <pingou> knesenko: then you will like copr :) 19:07:52 <skvidal> knesenko: and come by and talk to us if you're interesting 19:07:53 <nirik> excellent. Any other new folks or general questions? 19:07:58 <skvidal> s/intetresting/interested/ 19:08:12 <knesenko> skvidal: pingou np 10x 19:08:31 <nirik> #topic Applications status / discussion 19:08:41 <nirik> ok, any applications news this week or upcoming? 19:08:49 <pingou> I've started to work on a refresh of pkgdb 19:08:49 <puiterwijk> yeah, three openid related ones from me 19:09:01 <pingou> the db scheme will change and is simplified 19:09:40 <nirik> #info pingou working on a pkgdb update with db schema changes 19:09:49 <puiterwijk> as you might have read, we have authopenid for trac working now 19:10:05 <nirik> puiterwijk: we need to package that up still right? 19:10:08 <puiterwijk> (Seth sent an email out) 19:10:16 <puiterwijk> nirik: yeah, will do so later today or tomorrow 19:10:32 <nirik> #info authopenid testing with trac seems to show it works. 19:10:38 <abadger1999> I htink we've finally gotten rid of all the bugs in the python-fedora+python-requests update. But we're running one hotfix in infrastructure relatedto that. Unless we find more serious bugs, I'll hold off on another upstream release until after fedora/epel6 get the update that's currently pending. 19:11:00 <pingou> abadger1999: nice 19:11:02 <puiterwijk> second OpenID related item: flask_fas_openid base is done, I only need to implement one last extension (CLA), and then we can start moving over Flask apps to FAS-OpenID 19:11:18 * abadger1999 thanks threebean for tracking down a solution for that last problem. 19:11:23 <nirik> abadger1999: is that one hotfix something others will hit when the current update goes stable? or it's likely only something that matters to us? 19:11:50 <abadger1999> nirik: Yes, but I'm hoping it won't be as bad for them. It's a *severe* performance regression. 19:11:57 <nirik> #info flask-fas-openid base is almost ready for use. Flask apps can then use fas-openid 19:12:04 <tflink> as a heads up, the new API for bugzilla has been deployed to partner-bugzilla. the new python-bugzilla (git master HEAD) is needed to interface with the API changes and has changed a bit 19:12:20 * tflink sent an email to infrastructure@ but figured it would make sense to mention here 19:12:28 <nirik> tflink: yeah. ;( we need to test our stuff... 19:12:30 <abadger1999> If you download a large json dataset from one of our apps, then python-requests attempts to detect the character encoding which will take a very long time. 19:12:49 <puiterwijk> also, FAS-OpenID 0.5 will get into staging too when I have the CLA extension working, and when it is I will request testing on the infra mailing list 19:13:09 <tflink> it broke a bunch of stuff in the blocker tracking app but I needed to refactor that code anyways 19:13:15 <nirik> #info partner-bugzilla has been updated. git HEAD python-bugzilla needed. We need to test all our bugzilla using applications against the new versions. 19:13:18 <abadger1999> We're mostly the ones that are doing that since we cron jobs/supybot that consume data about all of our packages/users/etc. 19:13:55 <nirik> tflink: thanks for the heads up 19:14:10 * relrod here, late. 19:14:21 <pingou> what about a pre-release python-bugzilla 19:14:28 <tflink> nirik: np, we still don't know when the changes are going to be pushed to production, though 19:14:35 * tflink is waiting to hear back on that 19:14:46 <nirik> pingou: we should make one or ask for one, yeah 19:14:56 <tflink> pingou: I asked for one, should be done today sometime 19:15:20 <pingou> tflink: nice! 19:15:24 <pingou> thanks 19:15:34 <nirik> excellent. 19:16:01 <threebean> askbot in stg should be good to go. 19:16:12 <nirik> threebean: cool. when does it message? 19:16:21 <puiterwijk> oh, and another request with respect to FAS-OpenID: if you tested it, please report at least failures, but also successes would be nice 19:16:24 <nirik> asking new questions, proposed answers? 19:16:35 <nirik> #info feedback wanted on FAS-OpenID 19:16:47 <nirik> #info askbot in stg is fedmsg aware now 19:16:51 <threebean> nirik: new question, proposed answer, and a few others (flagged messages as offensive) 19:17:04 <nirik> ok 19:17:44 <nirik> ok, any other applications news? 19:17:58 <pingou> I need to move on with fedocal 19:18:03 <nirik> abadger1999: when did you want to move that pkgdb update? :) 19:18:12 <pingou> I'll have the spec file ready by this week-end 19:18:32 <nirik> pingou: cool. Happy to help you with review, etc 19:18:35 <abadger1999> nirik: I'm debating waiting for pingou's schema changes to land now. 19:18:47 <nirik> ok 19:18:54 <pingou> abadger1999: no go ahead 19:19:02 <abadger1999> nirik: It's pretty close and it would be nice to bring the db size down.... Should make backups faster :-) 19:19:09 <pingou> abadger1999: that retires the apps part and we already clean up the db a bit 19:19:19 <nirik> ok. 19:19:23 <abadger1999> and I've got plenty of other releases/fedora spec file cleanups to work on :-) 19:19:30 <abadger1999> pingou: ah. Okay. 19:19:48 <abadger1999> nirik: tentatively end of next week, then. 19:20:00 <pingou> abadger1999: I see more the changes I'm doing atm for a new(er) version of pkgdb 19:20:06 <abadger1999> k 19:20:09 <nirik> ok, we don't need an exact schedule right now... just enough in advance so we can schedule any outages. 19:20:17 <abadger1999> <nod> 19:20:30 <nirik> ok, shall we move on then? 19:20:36 <abadger1999> nirik: Shouldn't be any outage but there will be a change in what people can get from pkgdb afterwards 19:20:45 <abadger1999> appdb goes away, tags from pkgdb go away. 19:20:58 <nirik> #topic Sysadmin status / discussion 19:21:03 * abadger1999 makes a note to check if rel-eng processes are pulling tags from pkgdb or tagger now 19:21:11 <nirik> abadger1999: yeah, good to check on. 19:21:20 <nirik> so, lets see... on the sysadmin side... 19:21:34 <nirik> #info Rework of nagios underway. Phase 1 complete. 19:21:44 <nirik> I redid nagios dependencies 19:21:50 <nirik> so they should now be right. 19:21:58 <nirik> and we shouldn't get 20 pages when a site is down 19:22:35 <nirik> next phase(s) are to change the alerts so we only get urgent on impacting outages, and fix it so we can have other groups we monitor get notices for their stuff only. 19:22:56 <nirik> side note: can we switch nagios to use openid too? it's using mod_auth_pg as well right now 19:23:10 <puiterwijk> nirik: can add to my todo-list? 19:23:15 <nirik> puiterwijk: that would be great. 19:23:46 <nirik> we had a nasty serverbeach outage eariler in the week as well as some hosted instability. 19:23:55 <puiterwijk> #action puiterwijk will look into switching nagios to openid from mod_auth_pg 19:24:22 <nirik> smooge is going to be doing a quick visit out to our phx2 datacenter next week. 19:24:37 <nirik> If there are things people can think of that can only be done on-site, please let him know. ;) 19:24:43 <puiterwijk> yeah, hosted was probably gluster not playing nice 19:24:59 <skvidal> puiterwijk: all we really need for nagios (and for epylog logs) is some way of doing normal apache auth to openid 19:25:05 <nirik> I also adjusted hosteds robots.txt 19:25:12 <smooge> I will be mostly working on getting some hardware rebuilt 19:25:19 <puiterwijk> skvidal: so apache mod_openid? 19:25:26 <nirik> #info smooge on site next week (mon/tue). 19:25:40 <skvidal> puiterwijk: is that actually being maintained? 19:25:41 <nirik> #info robots.txt on fedorahosted adjusted to prevent crawling load issues. 19:25:50 <puiterwijk> skvidal: I have no idea yet :) 19:26:07 <skvidal> nirik: want to go over the cloud upgrade 'fun' 19:26:08 <skvidal> ? 19:26:12 <puiterwijk> skvidal, nirik: just one issue though... 19:26:13 <nirik> yeah, next up... 19:26:20 <nirik> puiterwijk: ? 19:26:30 <puiterwijk> if we would switch nagios to use openid, and openid would go down, we would also lose access to the web interface of nagios... 19:26:36 <skvidal> puiterwijk: agreed 19:26:41 <nirik> true. 19:26:53 <nirik> but if postgres goes down, we already die. ;( 19:26:54 <skvidal> it's one reason why I like the basic auth we're using for epylog 19:26:57 <skvidal> nirik: ^^^ 19:27:03 <nirik> yeah. 19:27:04 <skvidal> we just use a .htpasswd file 19:27:10 <skvidal> that is... unlikely... to fail 19:27:18 <puiterwijk> yeah, quite 19:27:34 <puiterwijk> just wanted to note it before I go to deep into mod_auth_openid 19:27:42 <skvidal> puiterwijk: it's a good note 19:27:45 <nirik> well, just a thought. Let me ponder on it some more. Ideally I'd prefer nagios (and epylogs too) to be available to lots of people, but just not crawlers or the world... 19:28:01 <skvidal> nirik: maybe multiple-auth? 19:28:04 <skvidal> nirik: fallthrough? 19:28:11 <nirik> possibly... 19:28:11 <puiterwijk> nirik: maybe failback ? 19:28:13 <skvidal> it depends on how mod_openid fails 19:28:18 <nirik> yeah, not sure off hand. 19:28:29 <skvidal> and, again, if it is reliable or maintained 19:28:31 <puiterwijk> I will check into mod auth_openid 19:28:34 <nirik> openid, then if fails a fallback .htpasswd with core people. 19:28:41 <skvidal> nirik: ya 19:28:48 <nirik> could work. 19:29:02 <nirik> ok, any other sysadmin stuff? or shall we move on to cloudy fun? 19:29:15 <nirik> #topic Private Cloud status update / discussion 19:29:25 <nirik> so, we updated both our cloudlets this week. 19:29:35 <nirik> The openstack one seems to have gone pretty well. 19:29:41 <smooge> have to head to vet 19:29:41 <nirik> the euca side... not so well 19:29:42 <smooge> bbs 19:29:49 <skvidal> the euca cloudlet.... had issues 19:29:49 <nirik> smooge: safe travels 19:30:04 <skvidal> I've been helped by the euca team today to determine what went wrong 19:30:30 <skvidal> one issue was caused by my running: service eucalyptus-cc stop instead of service eucalyptus-cc cleanstop 19:30:36 <skvidal> the other issue is unclear. 19:30:51 <skvidal> apparently 'cleanstop' is similar to --really-force 19:30:53 <nirik> stop means 'uncleanly shutdown' ? thats odd... 19:31:00 <skvidal> nirik: well stop means 19:31:05 <skvidal> 'stop but maintain all state' 19:31:11 <nirik> ah. 19:31:12 <skvidal> cleanstop means stop but nuke all state and start fresh 19:31:29 <nirik> which you want on upgrades... 19:31:33 <skvidal> umm 19:31:38 <skvidal> that's where it gets weird 19:31:57 <skvidal> I've asked this question if there is ever a time on an upgrade (where you would NOT want to cleanstop) 19:32:00 <skvidal> and the answer is no 19:32:08 <skvidal> so, since the upgrade modifies the db 19:32:19 <skvidal> I am unclear on why it doesn't clean the state then 19:32:26 <nirik> yeah. ;( 19:32:41 <skvidal> anyway... I have some more tests to run but as of this moment things are more or less working in the euca cloudlet 19:32:45 <nirik> so where do we stand right now? instances are up and working, but the cloudlet is not stable/reliable? 19:32:53 <skvidal> instances are up and working 19:32:59 <skvidal> volume attachment is what I have to test 19:32:59 <pingou> fedocal seems to have some data corrupted 19:33:04 <skvidal> pingou: corrupted? 19:33:06 <skvidal> pingou: that's new 19:33:09 <skvidal> pingou: corrupted where? 19:33:10 <pingou> files of size 0 19:33:17 <pingou> skvidal: /srv/persist/fedocal 19:33:30 <skvidal> pingou: that's new. 19:33:36 <skvidal> pingou: what files? 19:33:43 <pingou> all I think 19:33:49 <skvidal> pingou: can I look? 19:33:53 <pingou> of course 19:33:54 * nirik plays the sad trombone. ;( 19:34:18 <pingou> skvidal: just don't mind the cat sitting on /srv/ 19:34:27 <skvidal> pingou: yes 19:34:32 <skvidal> anyway 19:34:39 <skvidal> the euca cloudlet is not a happy place right now 19:34:54 <skvidal> at the same time I am trying to get the ssl'd ec2 api interface working for openstack 19:35:00 <skvidal> all the packets are getting through 19:35:05 <skvidal> but we are seeing this error 19:35:14 <skvidal> 2013-02-14 19:23:54 WARNING [keystone.common.wsgi] Authorization failed. EC2 signature not supplied. from 127.0.0.1 19:35:21 <nirik> #info cloudlet upgrades this week. openstack did ok, euca didn't upgrade nicely at all 19:35:53 <skvidal> it seems like some sort of signature is getting stripped out (or never supplied) with the ec2 auth 19:35:56 <nirik> so, if we get that working we can I hope spin up the volumes/instances in the OS side and reinstall the other cloudlet if we like. 19:36:03 <skvidal> if we do not pass through nginx this works 19:36:06 <skvidal> so it may be happening there 19:36:12 <skvidal> nirik: agreed 19:37:13 <nirik> #info work ongoing to get ec2 ssl working on openstack cloudlet 19:37:22 <nirik> ok, anything further cloudside? 19:37:52 <skvidal> not at the moment 19:37:56 <nirik> #topic Upcoming Tasks/Items 19:38:07 <nirik> lets see if this floods me off irc: 19:38:15 <nirik> #info 2013-02-18 to 2013-02-19 smooge on site at phx2. 19:38:15 <nirik> #info 2013-02-28 end of 4th quarter 19:38:15 <nirik> #info 2013-03-01 nag fi-apprentices 19:38:15 <nirik> #info 2013-03-07 remove inactive apprentices. 19:38:15 <nirik> #info 2013-03-19 to 2013-03-26 - koji update 19:38:17 <nirik> #info 2013-03-29 - spring holiday. 19:38:19 <nirik> #info 2013-04-02 to 2013-04-16 ALPHA infrastructure freeze 19:38:20 <nirik> #info 2013-04-16 F19 alpha release 19:38:22 <nirik> #info 2013-05-07 to 2013-05-21 BETA infrastructure freeze 19:38:24 <nirik> #info 2013-05-21 F19 beta release 19:38:26 <nirik> #info 2013-05-31 end of 1st quarter 19:38:28 <nirik> #info 2013-06-11 to 2013-06-25 FINAL infrastructure freeze. 19:38:30 <nirik> #info 2013-06-25 F19 FINAL release 19:38:32 <nirik> anything else anyone would like to schedule or add/note? 19:38:43 * nirik notes as soon as we have fedocal I can just stick this all in there. ;) 19:38:49 <skvidal> nirik: :) 19:38:55 <sontek> Not sure if this would fit in meeting related topics, but there is a PyCon booth we'd like to give to Fedora if anyone is attending PyCon 19:39:09 <nirik> sontek: awesome. ;) 19:39:11 <puiterwijk> nirik: maybe we should start thinking about planning to move FAS-OpenID to prod? 19:39:27 <nirik> abadger1999 / lmacken / threebean I think are going to pycon? possibly more from our team? 19:39:56 <nirik> puiterwijk: yeah, I'd like to have it in prod. 19:40:11 <puiterwijk> nirik: any idea for what kind of schedule would fit? 19:40:33 <puiterwijk> abadger1999: was the FAS login(username, password, yubikey) function written already? 19:40:44 <abadger1999> nirik: Yeah -- I'll be there. I'm trying to hook sontek up with one of the ambassadors who are attending as they'll be quite happy to make use of it I think. 19:40:47 <nirik> well, not sure. I'm open to ideas. 19:40:54 <nirik> abadger1999: excellent. 19:41:11 <puiterwijk> abadger1999, nirik: or do we want to hold of on yubikey in the first version of FAS-OpenID for now? 19:41:55 <sontek> Jesse Noller just wants to know who will be doing the booth so he knows it wont be empty, I can definitely help out at the booth but wouldn't want to be the main person for it 19:42:07 <nirik> well, if it's not going to be much longer to just implement it would be good to get done before prod. If it will be a while, I'm fine waiting for another release later. 19:42:17 <abadger1999> puiterwijk: It wasn't written yet. No reason to hold back on it assuming we can get it written. 19:42:49 <puiterwijk> abadger1999: what do you mean? to just release it without for the moment, and add it in 1.1? 19:43:04 <puiterwijk> (or 2.0, in the Firefox version-hell spirit :)) 19:43:28 <nirik> yeah, if it will be a while I'm fine with a 1.0 now and future release with that. 19:43:39 <nirik> #topic Open Floor 19:43:45 <nirik> anyone have any items for open floor? 19:43:52 <nirik> questions? suggestions? 19:43:58 <pingou> I had, I just have to remember what it is 19:44:11 <nirik> :) 19:44:24 <abadger1999> puiterwijk: I would say, don't let lack of yubikey block us from releasing but If we can write the fas method you need in time, there's no reason to hold it back either 19:44:52 * nirik is in agreement with abadger1999. as usual. ;) 19:45:27 <puiterwijk> abadger1999: okay. I will check quickly how much time it'll take 19:45:34 <pingou> nm, it doesn't want to come back, if I remember it, I'll mention it 19:45:40 <nirik> no worries. 19:46:22 <nirik> ok, if nothing more will close out in a few.. 19:46:32 <nirik> oh, forgot to mention arm boxes... 19:46:49 <jsmith> nirik: I was just going to ask about that :-) 19:47:12 <nirik> we have arm boxen in phx2. Racked. Powered. Serial console all setup. 1 of the 4 of them have ip's and I've installed the 24 socs for arm builders. 19:47:31 <nirik> need to reinstall them all, then do ansible config on them, then they should be ready to build. 19:47:39 <nirik> network is still pending for the other ones. 19:47:51 <jsmith> Any idea how long the network for the others might take? 19:48:08 <jsmith> (Don't get me wrong -- I'm happy to see the first 24 coming online) 19:48:16 <jsmith> Just curious, is all 19:48:41 <nirik> I've been harrassing people for a week+. ;) Our primary network contact is out, so we are trying to get someone else up to speed on the setup and requirements. 19:48:56 <nirik> hopefully soon, but I just don't know for sure. ;) 19:49:01 <jsmith> Fair enough 19:49:53 <nirik> ok, thanks for coming everyone. As always, continue in #fedora-admin, #fedora-noc and #fedora-apps 19:49:57 <nirik> #endmeeting

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Summary/Minutes from today's irc support sig meeting (2013-02-14)
by Kevin Fenzi 14 Feb '13

14 Feb '13

============================================= #fedora-meeting: IRC Support SIG (2013-02-14) ============================================= Meeting started by nirik at 17:00:00 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-02-14/irc-support-sig.… . Meeting summary --------------- * init process (nirik, 17:00:01) * Week in review (nirik, 17:01:49) * ticket #139 More Kudos to fenris02 (nirik, 17:04:23) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/139 (nirik, 17:04:25) * Open Floor (nirik, 17:05:54) Meeting ended at 17:09:16 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * nirik (23) * StillBob (8) * knesenko (5) * zodbot (3) * Sonar_Gal (3) * dcr226 (2) -- 17:00:00 <nirik> #startmeeting IRC Support SIG (2013-02-14) 17:00:00 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Feb 14 17:00:00 2013 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:00:00 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 17:00:00 <nirik> #meetingname irc-support-sig 17:00:00 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'irc-support-sig' 17:00:01 <nirik> #topic init process 17:00:04 * StillBob 17:00:13 * Sonar_Gal 17:00:39 <nirik> hello everyone. 17:01:44 <nirik> shall we go ahead and dive in then... 17:01:49 <nirik> #topic Week in review 17:01:59 <nirik> anything from the previous week to note/shout out? 17:02:24 <StillBob> not here 17:02:28 <nirik> It seems like there's a fair number of folks getting video problems on the latest kernels... unclear to me if it's a specific type of video card 17:04:04 <nirik> ok, on to tickets then I guess. 17:04:23 <nirik> #topic ticket #139 More Kudos to fenris02 17:04:25 <nirik> https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/139 17:04:30 <StillBob> That crazy fenrus02 again... 17:04:43 <StillBob> Something needs to be done about him... 17:04:46 <StillBob> ;) 17:04:50 <nirik> no no, this was fenris02. ;) 17:05:06 <nirik> anyhow, kudos. 17:05:08 <StillBob> Yeah I said crazy fenrus02 17:05:11 <StillBob> LOL 17:05:27 <StillBob> fenrus02: Good work! 17:05:54 <nirik> #topic Open Floor 17:06:01 <nirik> and hey, short meeting. ;) 17:06:09 <nirik> anyone have any items for open floor 17:06:09 <Sonar_Gal> :D 17:06:18 <dcr226> roses! 17:06:27 * dcr226 spreads rose petals across the open floor 17:06:41 <Sonar_Gal> lol 17:07:19 <nirik> indeed. ;) 17:07:26 * nirik will close out in a minute if nothing else. 17:07:37 <knesenko> Hi guys 17:07:45 <knesenko> I sent email last week . 17:07:56 <nirik> knesenko: which meeting are you looking for? 17:07:58 <knesenko> want to attend the team if it is possible 17:08:03 <knesenko> infra ? 17:08:04 <nirik> this is the irc support sig. ;) 17:08:09 <nirik> infra is not for 2 hours. 17:08:57 <knesenko> nirik: ah yeah. its UTC . sorry 17:09:13 <nirik> no worries. ;) 17:09:16 <nirik> #endmeeting

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Fedora ARM weekly status meeting minutes 2013-02-13
by Paul Whalen 14 Feb '13

14 Feb '13

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EMEA ambassadors meeting minutes 2013-02-13
by Jiri Eischmann 14 Feb '13

14 Feb '13

Hi, we had a productive meeting that lasted one hour and 30 minutes and was attended by 18 ambassadors. If you didn't attend, please read the minutes: Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-02-13/emea_ambassadors… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-02-13/emea_ambassadors… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-02-13/emea_ambassadors… The next meeting will be at 21:00 UTC on Feb 27th. Meet you in two weeks! Jiri

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