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Fedora Chinese Meeting Minutes (2013-08-30)
by Alick Zhao 30 Aug '13

30 Aug '13

Hi all, The IRC meeting minutes tonight are available at the link [1]. Thanks everyone for attending the meeting. In the meeting we talked about last meeting's actions. Please review the proposed ideas and actions. The next IRC meeting will be held on next Friday (2013-09-06). Please come and join the discussion if you can! [1]: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-zh/2013-08-30/fedora-zh.2013-08-30-… ================== #fedora-zh Meeting ================== Meeting started by alick at 13:09:51 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-zh/2013-08-30/fedora-zh.2013-08-30-… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll call (alick, 13:10:12) * Review last meeting's action (alick, 13:25:48) * 自由讨论 (alick, 13:56:39) Meeting ended at 14:19:45 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * alick (22) * gbraad (10) * zodbot (3) * hougelangley (2) * BadGirl (1) * lishoujun (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Summary/Minutes from today's Fedora Infrastructure meeting (2013-08-29)
by Kevin Fenzi 29 Aug '13

29 Aug '13

============================================ #fedora-meeting: Infrastructure (2013-08-29) ============================================ Meeting started by nirik at 19:00:01 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-08-29/infrastructure.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * welcome y'all (nirik, 19:00:01) * New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks (nirik, 19:02:45) * Applications status / discussion (nirik, 19:08:28) * LINK: https://stg.fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Codeblock#Badges (threebean, 19:09:15) * mediawiki badges plugin work (nirik, 19:16:39) * mailman3/hyperkitty staging is moving along/starting (nirik, 19:16:55) * fas-client push mode ready for testing next week hopefully (nirik, 19:17:09) * Sysadmin status / discussion (nirik, 19:17:17) * x86 koji builders are now Fedora 19 (all were re-installed the other day) (nirik, 19:17:44) * updates have been applied to almost everything now (nirik, 19:17:59) * merged the base task in ansible into a role this weekend. (nirik, 19:18:33) * cleaned up buildvm ansible playbooks and kickstarts. (nirik, 19:18:45) * ansible meeting next week sometime, nirik to schedule. (nirik, 19:23:43) * frankieonuonga to look at ansible yaml checking hooks (nirik, 19:32:00) * Smoother1rOgZ and nirik to test repmgr (nirik, 19:32:08) * Upcoming Tasks/Items (nirik, 19:32:19) * LINK: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/infrastructure/ (nirik, 19:32:19) * Open Floor (nirik, 19:34:07) * Lots of FAD ideas, flesh out your proposals on list and we can start organizing (nirik, 19:40:20) * LINK: http://miroslav.suchy.cz/blog/archives/2013/08/29/what_is_copr/index.html (nirik, 19:47:13) * LINK: http://miroslav.suchy.cz/blog/archives/2013/08/29/copr_and_integration_with… (nirik, 19:47:18) Meeting ended at 19:52:49 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * nirik (121) * pingou (27) * threebean (23) * abompard (19) * frankieonuonga (18) * Smoother1rOgZ (16) * abadger1999 (13) * misc (9) * Xeladem (7) * janeznemanic (5) * adimania (5) * dgilmore (5) * zodbot (4) * Zen42 (4) * smooge (3) * kaotiko (2) * oddshocks (2) * bitlord (1) * fchiulli (1) * relrod (0) * mdomsch (0) * puiterwijk (0) * lmacken (0) -- 19:00:01 <nirik> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2013-08-29) 19:00:01 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Aug 29 19:00:01 2013 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:00:01 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 19:00:01 <nirik> #meetingname infrastructure 19:00:01 <nirik> #topic welcome y'all 19:00:01 <nirik> #chair smooge relrod nirik abadger1999 lmacken dgilmore mdomsch threebean pingou puiterwijk 19:00:01 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure' 19:00:01 <zodbot> Current chairs: abadger1999 dgilmore lmacken mdomsch nirik pingou puiterwijk relrod smooge threebean 19:00:08 <nirik> hello everyone. 19:00:10 <oddshocks> Hello! 19:00:13 <Xeladem> hello 19:00:15 <Zen42> hello 19:00:17 <adimania> hello 19:00:19 <bitlord> hi! 19:00:19 <oddshocks> how low 19:01:19 * threebean is here 19:01:20 * nirik will wait another min for folks to wander in 19:01:30 * Smoother1rOgZ here 19:01:32 <frankieonuonga> hi guys...greetings from kenya 19:01:51 <Xeladem> ^^ 19:01:52 * fchiulli is here 19:02:21 <abompard> hey y'all ! 19:02:31 <nirik> cool. Nice turn out today. ;) 19:02:43 <nirik> ok, lets go ahead and dive in... 19:02:45 <nirik> #topic New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks 19:02:52 <nirik> any new folks like to give a short intro? 19:02:55 <janeznemanic> Hi, I graduated from business management. I've been studying programming for the last year and I've been reading books about Linux administration for the last four months. Really look forward working in infrastructure team. 19:03:01 <nirik> or apprentices with questions/comments/ideas? 19:03:10 <nirik> welcome janeznemanic. 19:03:23 <janeznemanic> hi everybody 19:03:25 <Xeladem> Welcom 19:03:30 <Xeladem> +e 19:03:41 <adimania> Hi, I am Aditya working as a systems engineer. I work with Puppet and python a bit. 19:03:48 <nirik> welcome adimania 19:03:53 <Zen42> Hi, i'm a Linux sys admin from Glasgow, have been for about 4 years and been a general sys admin for 8 19:04:06 <nirik> and welcome Zen42 too. ;) 19:04:08 <adimania> thanks nirik. 19:04:20 <Zen42> thanks 19:04:24 <nirik> are you folks more interested in sysadmin type items, application development, or both? 19:04:41 <adimania> I would prefer more sysadmin stuff. 19:04:52 <janeznemanic> I'm interested in both. 19:05:03 <Zen42> nirik: sysadmin only 19:05:06 <adimania> I can write code as such like nagios checks and puppet confs. 19:05:28 <nirik> cool. ;) So, for the sysadmin side see me after the meeting in #fedora-admin and we can get you folks added to our apprentice group... 19:05:34 <smooge> here 19:05:40 <janeznemanic> ok 19:05:42 <kaotiko> Hi, I m newbie here too, I was speaking in other fedora channels. I work with Python. I like work in apps :) 19:05:45 <nirik> for the app devel side, see #fedora-apps after the meeting and we can get you started in on that side. ;) 19:05:58 <nirik> kaotiko: welcome. ;) 19:06:06 <frankieonuonga> apprentice group is great....I am in it so far and they are really helpful...so feel free guys 19:06:28 <Xeladem> #fedora-apprentice 19:06:32 <Xeladem> sorry 19:06:37 <Xeladem> ^^ 19:06:39 <janeznemanic> may I be in both groups 19:06:42 <nirik> #fedora-admin is our general channel. ;) 19:07:01 * pingou late 19:07:04 <nirik> do feel free to ask questions in those channels or chime in anytime. ;) 19:07:27 <nirik> hey pingou. :) 19:07:38 <nirik> ok, any other new folks or questions? or shall we move on? 19:07:43 <kaotiko> I had not sure if i should speak here but finally I wrote :) 19:08:08 <pingou> cool, a lot a new people :) 19:08:24 <nirik> kaotiko: we are usually a friendly bunch... questions are a good thing. 19:08:28 <nirik> #topic Applications status / discussion 19:08:39 <nirik> any news on the applications font this last week or upcoming? 19:09:00 <threebean> heh, lots of small fun stuff. 19:09:10 <nirik> yeah. 19:09:15 <threebean> https://stg.fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Codeblock#Badges 19:09:26 <threebean> relrod has a mediawiki badges plugin on the way 19:09:26 <Smoother1rOgZ> yeah, nice! 19:09:53 <nirik> cool. 19:09:56 <pingou> it looks very very nice! 19:10:02 <threebean> and we got a zodbot .badges command :) 19:10:04 <nirik> long term we want to look at a fas 'profile' page tho? 19:10:15 <frankieonuonga> COOL!!!!! 19:10:17 <Smoother1rOgZ> threebean++ 19:10:31 <threebean> nirik: yup - https://github.com/fedora-infra/fas/issues/39 19:11:08 <nirik> cool. 19:11:17 * Smoother1rOgZ notes 19:11:19 <nirik> should we close that infra ticket in favor of the upstream fas one? 19:11:45 <threebean> let's leave it open another day until we get the badges macro into production mediawiki? 19:11:50 <nirik> ok. 19:12:23 <nirik> I've looked at moving hyperkitty/mailman3 forward some... 19:12:32 <nirik> abompard: you have the things you need to move that along now? 19:12:59 <abompard> Hmm, not quite 19:13:12 <nirik> ok, I can work on helping you with anything you need... 19:13:15 <abompard> I'm working on the MM3 rpm but there's something I don't get with the infra 19:13:18 * nirik wants to get that rolling. ;) 19:13:24 * abompard too :-) 19:13:35 <pingou> from Monday, I should be able to help in the morning abompard ;-) 19:13:46 <abompard> this rbac-playbook command you mentionned, I can't find it anywhere 19:13:50 <abompard> pingou: :-) 19:13:56 <nirik> abompard: ah, it's on lockbox01 in /usr/local/bin/ 19:14:07 <nirik> you need to run the ansible playbooks from there. 19:14:30 <abompard> darn I was sure to have looked there 19:14:49 <abompard> ok, I probably mixed it up with bastion 19:14:58 <nirik> we can poke at it in #fedora-noc or admin out of meeting? 19:15:05 <abompard> yum 19:15:07 <abompard> yup 19:15:11 <abompard> (reflex ;-) ) 19:15:17 <nirik> :) 19:15:43 <nirik> any other application plans upcoming? 19:16:04 <Smoother1rOgZ> we should have the new fas-client ready for push-mode next week 19:16:10 <threebean> cool! 19:16:15 <nirik> oh, nice. ;) 19:16:20 <Smoother1rOgZ> i'm finishing fedmsg implementation 19:16:39 <nirik> #info mediawiki badges plugin work 19:16:55 <nirik> #info mailman3/hyperkitty staging is moving along/starting 19:17:09 <nirik> #info fas-client push mode ready for testing next week hopefully 19:17:17 <nirik> #topic Sysadmin status / discussion 19:17:24 <nirik> ok, on the sysadmin side a few things: 19:17:44 <nirik> #info x86 koji builders are now Fedora 19 (all were re-installed the other day) 19:17:55 <dgilmore> well most are 19:17:59 <nirik> #info updates have been applied to almost everything now 19:18:11 <nirik> dgilmore: details details. ;) yeah, there are a few left. 19:18:33 <nirik> #info merged the base task in ansible into a role this weekend. 19:18:45 <nirik> #info cleaned up buildvm ansible playbooks and kickstarts. 19:18:53 <abadger1999> if there's anyone with outstanding PR's they need reviewed, I could dedicate a day a week to reviewing or something. I reviewed a set of threebean's PR's on Monday and it seemed to go pretty well. 19:19:24 <nirik> I'm going to try and continue to clean up and organize our ansible repo. Help welcome. 19:19:42 <pingou> abadger1999: http://ambre.pingoured.fr/fedora-infra/#pulls there are some :] 19:19:44 <nirik> abadger1999: if you have time sometime I'd like to look at those variables issues in ansible you hit and finish the new instance sop 19:19:47 <threebean> abadger1999: there is also pingou's list to use as a reference. 19:19:51 <threebean> pingou: ;) 19:20:09 <pingou> I need to rewrite this script to use an API token and a simple cron 19:21:35 <nirik> Also, I was actually thinking of another ansible meeting... see if we can discuss outstanding questions and also go over preferred syntax and stuff for everyone. 19:21:49 <threebean> +1 19:21:50 <pingou> +1 19:22:00 <frankieonuonga> +1 19:22:01 <nirik> ie, when to use roles, using {{ var }} always instead of ${var}, etc 19:22:28 <Smoother1rOgZ> +1 19:22:40 <nirik> cool. I'll look at scheduling something next week possibly... 19:22:52 <abadger1999> nirik: yeah -- we need to do that sometime. 19:23:12 <nirik> also, things like: "action: copy ... " should now be just "copy: " 19:23:22 <abadger1999> pingou: that's a nice list :-) 19:23:31 <abompard> +1 too, I'd love to listen to that 19:23:43 <nirik> #info ansible meeting next week sometime, nirik to schedule. 19:24:14 <nirik> So, I'll put this under sysadmin: 19:24:29 <misc> someone could also take a look at using http://www.kuwata-lab.com/kwalify/ to have some syntax validation ? 19:24:56 <nirik> I reinstalled out fed-cloud01 machine with a clean install, then ran the ansible openstack playbook on it. It mostly worked, but blew up a bit at the end. I sent the maintainer feedback on it and he was going to fix those things. 19:25:12 <nirik> Also, the master branch I used was for havana... which isn't really stable. 19:25:22 <nirik> I'm going to re-run with grizzley 19:25:53 <nirik> misc: packaged? doesn't seem so. 19:25:53 <frankieonuonga> i seemed to have a 404 on both of them....can we kindly look into it after the meeting. 19:26:11 <nirik> and ruby or java? :( 19:26:12 <misc> nirik: rubygem-kwalify.noarch 19:26:33 <nirik> that doesn't help get to the day I can yum remove ruby. ;) 19:26:46 <misc> you just need it on lockbox 19:26:56 <misc> and that's yaml file to describe yaml 19:27:07 <nirik> how much better/different is that from --syntax-check ? 19:27:30 <misc> I am not sure that --syntax-check could be used to enforce style 19:28:05 <nirik> right. well, I can look into it, but more ruby doesn't make me happy. ;) 19:28:20 <misc> maybe there is the same in java if you prefer :) 19:28:33 <frankieonuonga> for syntax we can use lynt tools 19:28:37 <frankieonuonga> should work 19:28:50 <frankieonuonga> I can look into it 19:28:57 * nirik doesn't prefer java either. ;) 19:29:10 <nirik> frankieonuonga: sure, if you want to look at options and let us know. 19:29:44 <frankieonuonga> nirik: small joke...if java has true garbage collection it would kill apps as they launched..ha ha 19:29:45 <nirik> ok, any other sysadmin side items? 19:29:53 <frankieonuonga> nirik: sure let me do that 19:30:01 <frankieonuonga> will let you guys know in two or so days 19:30:26 <Smoother1rOgZ> if there's any people interested about evaluating repmgr, poke at nirik or I 19:30:55 <nirik> Smoother1rOgZ: thats still on my list too. ;) Did you say you had created instances already? or should I spin up some to test with? 19:31:05 <frankieonuonga> smoother1rOgz: great...thanks. 19:31:13 <Smoother1rOgZ> I did, you've 3 running 19:31:38 <Smoother1rOgZ> on fed-cloud02 19:31:48 <nirik> Smoother1rOgZ: ok, can you drop me an email with the ips or something? 19:31:54 <Smoother1rOgZ> sure thing 19:32:00 <nirik> #info frankieonuonga to look at ansible yaml checking hooks 19:32:08 <nirik> #info Smoother1rOgZ and nirik to test repmgr 19:32:19 <nirik> #topic Upcoming Tasks/Items 19:32:19 <nirik> https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/infrastructure/ 19:32:30 <nirik> anything upcoming that people would like to schedule or note? 19:32:41 <nirik> Monday is a holiday in the US for many people. 19:32:48 <nirik> Tuesday is alpha change freeze day. 19:33:15 <nirik> and so tuesday we enter alpha change freeze in infra as well. 19:33:21 <smooge> Tuesday is reboot all the systems day 19:33:35 <nirik> ansible all -a 'reboot' 19:33:39 <nirik> sorry, wrong window. 19:33:47 <abompard> :-) 19:33:57 <threebean> more effective with --fireball 19:34:03 <nirik> yeah. ;) 19:34:07 <nirik> #topic Open Floor 19:34:19 <nirik> anyone have items for open floor? questions or comments or ideas? 19:34:33 <threebean> I volunteered at Flock to make some videos for the Fedora Videos team on infra stuff 19:34:39 <smooge> cool 19:34:42 <pingou> nice 19:34:44 <nirik> cool. 19:34:57 <threebean> I was thinking about three different videos, 2-5 minutes each 19:35:02 <frankieonuonga> I cant wait to see those...considering i was not there. 19:35:06 <pingou> can I/we help with something? 19:35:11 <Smoother1rOgZ> I opened a milestone FAS3.0, if you guys have any ideas or request, please, add issue with the tag "feature" 19:35:13 <threebean> one on "What is Fedora Infrastructure" covering very broadly.. 19:35:15 <nirik> Oh, if we want to do a FAD (Fedora Activity Day), I think we might need to look into early next year... since we have lots of release stuff for f20, then holidays) 19:35:25 <pingou> +1 19:35:31 <threebean> one on "How to get involved in the sysadmin stuff" and another on "How to get involved in app development" 19:35:46 <pingou> FAS3.0 is clearly a good FAD topic for app dev 19:35:48 <nirik> threebean: sounds lovely. 19:35:57 <threebean> If anyone has stuff they really want to be in it, or wants to help.. ping me later I guess. ;) 19:35:59 <pingou> getting ride of puppet might be an interesting one for sysadmin 19:36:05 <dgilmore> nirik: id like us to have a fad to work on a new combined frontend for koji/bodhi/pkgdb 19:36:26 <pingou> dgilmore: could you expand on this? 19:36:28 <Smoother1rOgZ> dgilmore++ 19:36:38 <nirik> dgilmore: oh yeah, that would be a nice one too. What would those upstream projects think of that? just an alternate frontend for our case? 19:36:40 <pingou> I read something about this on the devel list but didn't know about it before 19:36:42 <frankieonuonga> threebean: this would be something I am interested in...will hit you up 19:36:47 <dgilmore> maybe in Madrid 19:37:37 * nirik wonders if we could/should do a FAD in Denver, with me and lmacken (soon) being here it makes it easier for two of us at least. ;) 19:37:40 <abadger1999> <nod> -- for any of these fads... we do want to be sure we scope our deliverables before doing them though. 19:37:46 <abadger1999> <nod> 19:37:49 <nirik> abadger1999: absolutely. 19:38:12 <abadger1999> Denver is more central. west coast and mid-westerners would appreciate that ;-) 19:38:15 <nirik> specific realistic goal and people who are needed to reach that goal 19:38:28 <pingou> abadger1999: want to bet it's more central ? :D 19:38:45 <Smoother1rOgZ> :) 19:38:48 <abadger1999> pingou: Shh... Denver has some nice sight seeing as well ;-) 19:38:51 <nirik> FAD: Mid atlantic! 19:38:53 <pingou> wfm ! :) 19:38:56 <pingou> both :) 19:39:19 <abompard> yeah but eletronic devices have to be turned off in aiplanes 19:39:21 * pingou looks at Fedora boats 19:39:22 <nirik> there's lots of things we could do, we just need someone to pick one they feel strongly on and start organizing it. 19:39:28 <misc> FAs: Atlantis 19:39:36 <abompard> misc: +1 19:39:42 <pingou> misc: lost cause 19:39:44 * threebean gets the Underwater Hackathon badge ready. 19:40:01 <abompard> threebean: the artwork would be lovely 19:40:10 <pingou> scuba panda? 19:40:11 * misc did read as Underwear hackaton and think he should go to bed 19:40:20 <nirik> #info Lots of FAD ideas, flesh out your proposals on list and we can start organizing 19:40:20 <abompard> :-) 19:40:40 <pingou> abadger1999: we should make an app to vote on the FAD topic :D 19:40:48 <pingou> with shiny badge images! 19:40:58 <nirik> pingou: but first, a FAD to make the FAD voting app 19:41:08 <nirik> :) 19:41:10 <Smoother1rOgZ> yeah 19:41:15 <pingou> threebean: start w/ the badge :D 19:41:17 <abadger1999> heh, at this point, a european location for a fas fad would probably make sense -- but make sure we know what we want to accomplish before deciding to have a fas fad at all. 19:41:21 <threebean> definitely 19:41:39 <nirik> abadger1999: for that, might be possible to tack it onto flock next year... 19:41:41 <frankieonuonga> I would also push for europe. 19:41:59 <nirik> (although that makes it a lot of stuff at once) 19:42:18 <abadger1999> nirik: <nod> If only we could do: flock, one week mandatory infra vacation, infra fad :-) 19:42:22 <frankieonuonga> nirik: wouldnt it be easier to have relating events at once? 19:42:33 <nirik> abadger1999: +1! :) 19:42:39 <abompard> abadger1999: +1 ! 19:42:54 <pingou> abompard: +! 19:42:57 <nirik> frankieonuonga: it is... but if you have been hacking on something hard for several days then go to a conference where you do more, it gets pretty tiring. 19:43:01 <pingou> abadger1999: +1 19:43:06 <nirik> and you are away from home for longer. 19:43:32 <pingou> abadger1999: although threebean might have problems w/ that agenda :) 19:43:33 <frankieonuonga> nirik:you do have a valid point here...ok yes. 19:43:53 <nirik> people tend to not get much sleep at flock/fudcons. ;) Talks all day, hacking all evening, etc 19:44:04 <abompard> nirik: indeed... 19:44:09 <frankieonuonga> nirik: hope I can make it for the next one. 19:44:21 <nirik> yeah, we will see where it ends up. :) 19:44:33 <nirik> anyhow, any further questions for open floor? 19:44:53 <threebean> oh, I saw, I think it was msuchy, post to the planet about copr? 19:44:59 <threebean> is anyone here talking with him about it? 19:45:08 <nirik> threebean: yeah, saw that. I haven't directly, no. ;( 19:45:39 <nirik> I talked to mikem at flock about it and possibly merging it into koji... 19:45:55 <threebean> yeah, his posts indicated he was talking with mikem too 19:46:14 <nirik> I was waiting for his OBS post. ;) 19:46:23 <threebean> ha! me too ;p 19:46:26 <dgilmore> nirik: kinda like i want to do to enable some upstream projects to build in koji 19:46:46 <nirik> dgilmore: yeah. I think this could tie into that very much... 19:46:59 <abadger1999> nirik: Question -- would we be willing to run an obs instance? 19:47:12 <nirik> for those following along the links are: 19:47:13 <dgilmore> abadger1999: no 19:47:13 <nirik> http://miroslav.suchy.cz/blog/archives/2013/08/29/what_is_copr/index.html 19:47:13 <abadger1999> nirik: if we aren't, then we probably need to make that clear to him. 19:47:18 <nirik> http://miroslav.suchy.cz/blog/archives/2013/08/29/copr_and_integration_with… 19:47:28 <nirik> abadger1999: yeah, it's not clear to me that we have been asked to tho... 19:47:39 <pingou> abadger1999: I thought it had been made clear on the list (maybe another time isn't bad though) 19:47:59 <misc> a obs like instance wouldn't cause various issue with redistribution, patents, etc ? 19:48:49 <nirik> dunno, it could. 19:48:57 <abadger1999> nirik: <nod> I think that we might end up with something in RH running one thing and we have to find someone new to maintain the copr-ppa type thing we have almost complete now or get it merged into koji. 19:49:21 <nirik> abadger1999: yeah, I think a lot of the requirements are now being driven by upstream projects. 19:49:37 <abadger1999> yeah, which is decidedly not what we need it for :-/ 19:49:52 <nirik> well, it could be useful for them too, but yeah, we have other needs. ;) 19:50:16 <nirik> so, I could drop them an email? or would someone else want to open a dialog? or can we invite them to discuss on infra list? 19:51:12 <Smoother1rOgZ> invite them to discuss seems good 19:51:24 <nirik> I'll mail him and mikem and ask for discussion on infra list. 19:52:02 <nirik> ok, anything further? or shall we call it a meeting? 19:52:47 <nirik> ok, thanks for coming everyone. ;) 19:52:49 <nirik> #endmeeting

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Re: Fedora IRC Board Meeting Reminder: 2013/08/29, 18:00 UTC
by Michael Scherer 29 Aug '13

29 Aug '13

Le jeudi 29 août 2013 à 13:13 -0400, Josh Boyer a écrit : > Hi folks, > > A reminder that there is a Board IRC meeting today (Thursday, 2013/08/29) > > What: Fedora Board Meeting (IRC) > Where: irc.freenode.net - #fedora-meeting-1 > When: 18:00 UTC (2pm Eastern, 11am Pacific, 7pm London/BST, 8pm Paris/Brno/CEST) > > Today's agenda: More on FESCo's proposal and what the Board would like to see Minutes : http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-08-29/board.2013-08-… Log : http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-08-29/board.2013-08-… -- Michael Scherer

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Summary/Minutes from today's FPC Meeting (2013-08-29 16:00 - 17:42 UTC)
by James Antill 29 Aug '13

29 Aug '13

============================================= #fedora-meeting-1: Fedora Packaging Committee ============================================= Meeting started by spot at 16:00:27 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-08-29/fpc.2013-08-29… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (spot, 16:00:37) * Consider reverting decision to ban %{?_isa} in BuildRequires - https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/303 (spot, 16:03:52) * ACTION: tabled, pending data around rpmbuild (spot, 16:49:56) * No_bin_deps redux - https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/314 (spot, 16:50:22) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Toshio/Effect_of_UsrMove â €¦ doesn't seem that bad. (geppetto, 16:56:59) * ACTION: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Toshio/Effect_of_UsrMove approved as replacement for ban on /bin /sbin /lib* files. (+1:6, 0:0, -1:0) (spot, 17:04:38) * Bundling exception for IQmol - https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/332 (spot, 17:07:41) * ACTION: Request for library generation from upstream before considering copylib exception approved (+1:6, 0:0, -1:0) (spot, 17:20:24) * Create a macro for selecting the proper ruby-(abi|release) version - https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/334 (spot, 17:21:15) * ACTION: tabling on RHEL adding support for the macro. (spot, 17:37:58) Meeting ended at 17:42:47 UTC. Action Items ------------ * tabled, pending data around rpmbuild * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Toshio/Effect_of_UsrMove approved as replacement for ban on /bin /sbin /lib* files. (+1:6, 0:0, -1:0) * Request for library generation from upstream before considering copylib exception approved (+1:6, 0:0, -1:0) * tabling on RHEL adding support for the macro. Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * tabled, pending data around rpmbuild * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Toshio/Effect_of_UsrMove approved as replacement for ban on /bin /sbin /lib* files. (+1:6, 0:0, -1:0) * Request for library generation from upstream before considering copylib exception approved (+1:6, 0:0, -1:0) * tabling on RHEL adding support for the macro. People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * spot (139) * abadger1999 (95) * geppetto (32) * RemiFedora (27) * dgilmore (22) * Smoother1rOgZ (14) * samkottler (13) * racor (8) * limburgher (7) * zodbot (3) * kalev (3) * dwa (2) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Fedora Latam Meeting Logs / Registro de la reunion de Embajadores de Fedora 2013-08-28
by alejandro perez 28 Aug '13

28 Aug '13

12 people present, great meeting. Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-08-28/fedora_latam_amb… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-08-28/fedora_latam_amb… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-08-28/fedora_latam_amb…

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EMEA ambassadors meeting 2013-08-28 minutes
by Christoph Wickert 28 Aug '13

28 Aug '13

Only 10 attendees today as Jiri is on holidays and we sent out the reminder very late. Thanks to everybody who showed up nevertheless and a special thanks to Robert for hosting the meeting when I was not available! Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-08-28/emea_ambassadors… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-08-28/emea_ambassadors… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-08-28/emea_ambassadors… Meet you again on Wednesday, September MONTH 11th (two weeks from now) at 20:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting! Regards, Christoph ============================================ #fedora-meeting: EMEA ambassadors 2013-08-28 ============================================ Meeting started by robyduck at 20:11:18 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-08-28/emea_ambassadors… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (robyduck, 20:11:59) * Announcements (robyduck, 20:16:12) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/20/Schedule (robyduck, 20:18:57) * Fedora 20 Alpha will be released at september 17th (robyduck, 20:18:58) * LINK: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting (robyduck, 20:19:50) * Requests (robyduck, 20:22:55) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/report/1 (robyduck, 20:23:23) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/emea-swag-tracking/ticket/276 (gnokii, 20:26:09) * AGREED: Ticket 276 for LimuxCon in Edinburgh has been approved (robyduck, 20:37:59) * Ambassador's Schedule (robyduck, 20:39:55) * LINK: http://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-20/f-20-ambassadors-tasks.html (robyduck, 20:40:42) * Events (robyduck, 20:42:30) * if you attended FrOSCon of any other event, please don't forget to write an event report or blog about it. If you received funding, this is mandatory! (cwickert, 20:44:46) * same for FLOCK, but not only send a link to ambassadors list but also to flock-staff(a)fedoraproject.org (cwickert, 20:45:59) * If you plan an event, please not only add it to the wiki page at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events but also to the calendar at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/Events/ (cwickert, 20:48:33) * The annual EMEA ambassadors planning FAD will take place in Rheinfelden December, 6th - 8th. If you want to attend, mail drop Gerold a mail. (cwickert, 20:52:49) * ACTION: mailga to create https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Rheinfelden_2013 (cwickert, 20:56:56) * Openfloor (robyduck, 20:57:53) Meeting ended at 21:04:51 UTC. Action Items ------------ * mailga to create https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Rheinfelden_2013 Action Items, by person ----------------------- * mailga * mailga to create https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Rheinfelden_2013 * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * robyduck (67) * cwickert (38) * zodbot (15) * gnokii (11) * giallu (9) * mhroncok (9) * mailga (8) * jreznik_dac (4) * dglaros (2) * cmpahar (2) * twohot (1)

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F20 Alpha Blocker Bug Review #2 Minutes
by Tim Flink 28 Aug '13

28 Aug '13

================================================= #fedora-blocker-review: f20alpha-blocker-review-2 ================================================= Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2013-08-28/f20alpha-… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2013-08-28/f20alpha-… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2013-08-28/f20alpha-… Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (tflink, 16:01:42) * Introduction (tflink, 16:05:28) * Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and freeze exception bugs. (tflink, 16:05:50) * We'll be following the process outlined at: (tflink, 16:05:58) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting (tflink, 16:05:58) * The bugs up for review today are available at: (tflink, 16:06:05) * LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (tflink, 16:06:05) * The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (tflink, 16:06:11) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Alpha_Release_Criteria (tflink, 16:06:11) * Up for review today, we have: (tflink, 16:06:16) * 7 Proposed Blockers (tflink, 16:06:23) * 4 Accepted Blockers (tflink, 16:06:23) * 0 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (tflink, 16:06:23) * 2 Accepted Freeze Exceptions (tflink, 16:06:23) * (1000889) AttributeError: 'DeviceFormat' object has no attribute 'mount' (tflink, 16:07:15) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1000889 (tflink, 16:07:18) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 16:07:21) * AGREED: 1000889 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F20 alpha release criterion: "The installer must be able to complete an installation to a single disk using automatic partitioning." (tflink, 16:09:27) * (1000927) 20 Alpha TC1 i386 install image (netinst or DVD) freezes in the first step (tflink, 16:09:35) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1000927 (tflink, 16:09:38) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 16:09:40) * AGREED: 1000927 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F20 alpha release criterion for 32bit installs: "When using the dedicated installer images, the installer must be able to complete an installation using the text, graphical and VNC installation interfaces." (tflink, 16:11:41) * (994180) Boot-time LUKS passphrase input *always* defaults to en-us (tflink, 16:11:49) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=994180 (tflink, 16:11:52) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 16:11:54) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=875567#c20 (kparal, 16:20:13) * ACTION: kparal to make sure 994180 is investigated (kparal, 16:29:23) * AGREED: 994180 - This doesn't seem like an alpha blocker with the existing workarounds but we want to make sure those workarounds actually _work_ before rejecting. Will revisit at the next blocker review meeting (tflink, 16:31:25) * (1000715) TypeError: Argument 2 does not allow None as a value (tflink, 16:31:41) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1000715 (tflink, 16:31:44) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 16:31:47) * AGREED: 1000715 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F20 alpha release criteria for installs using a non-en-us keyboard: "The installer must run when launched normally from the release-blocking images." (tflink, 17:08:20) * there was some discussion around whether we should have locale criterion or not but more investigation would be needed before any propoal went forward (tflink, 17:11:03) * (1002055) [abrt] gnome-shell-3.9.90-1.fc20: g_variant_valist_new_nnp: Process /usr/bin/gnome-shell was killed by signal 5 (SIGTRAP) (tflink, 17:11:15) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1002055 (tflink, 17:11:18) * Proposed Blocker, gnome-shell, NEW (tflink, 17:11:20) * AGREED: 1002055 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F20 alpha release criterion for the 32bit desktop spin: "Release-blocking live images must boot to the expected boot menu, and then to a desktop or to a login prompt where it is clear how to log in to a desktop." (tflink, 17:13:57) * (1001081) anaconda unable to select INSTALLATION SOURCE (Exception yum.Errors.RepoError...) (tflink, 17:14:02) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1001081 (tflink, 17:14:05) * Proposed Blocker, pykickstart, MODIFIED (tflink, 17:14:08) * AGREED: 1001081 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F20 alpha release criterion: "When using the DVD image, the installer must be able to use the DVD as a package source." (tflink, 17:15:20) * (679486) Liveinst doesn't start if hostname changes (tflink, 17:15:30) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=679486 (tflink, 17:15:30) * Proposed Blocker, xorg-x11-xauth, ASSIGNED (tflink, 17:15:30) * AGREED: 679486 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedFreezeException - This is a reoccurance of a bug that was accepted as final blocker for F19 but the fix didn't make it into F20. It doesn't violate any F20 alpha release criteria but a tested fix would be considered after freeze. (tflink, 17:20:45) * (995268) TypeError: Argument 2 does not allow None as a value - If no hostname is set by DHCP (tflink, 17:23:47) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=995268 (tflink, 17:23:50) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, ASSIGNED (tflink, 17:23:52) * AGREED: 995268 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F20 alpha release criteria for non-en-us locales or improperly detected locales: "Release-blocking dedicated installer images must boot to the expected boot menu, and then after a reasonable timeout to the installer." (tflink, 17:35:04) * (997690) SizeNotPositiveError: bytes= param must be >=0 (tflink, 17:36:57) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=997690 (tflink, 17:36:58) * Accepted Blocker, anaconda, POST (tflink, 17:36:58) * patch submitted, waiting for merge and new anaconda build (tflink, 17:39:03) * (983319) Install gets stuck returning from Installation Destination spoke (tflink, 17:41:41) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=983319 (tflink, 17:41:44) * Accepted Blocker, anaconda, MODIFIED (tflink, 17:41:46) * this has been fixed in anaconda-20.8-1 (F20 Alpha TC1) and can be closed (tflink, 17:43:28) * (985342) illegal instructions with glibc-2.17.90 on armv7hl (tflink, 17:45:20) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=985342 (tflink, 17:45:23) * Accepted Blocker, glibc, MODIFIED (tflink, 17:45:26) * there is a new build that should fix this issue on the affected armv7hl platforms (tflink, 17:48:19) * glibc-2.18-5.fc20 will be in TC2 or TC3, will need testing to verify (tflink, 17:49:37) * Open Floor (tflink, 17:50:38) * Alpha Change Deadline is 2013-09-03 (tflink, 17:52:24) * the next blocker review meeting will be 2013-09-04 @ 16:00 UTC in #fedora-blocker-review (tflink, 17:53:58) Meeting ended at 17:56:13 UTC. Action Items ------------ * kparal to make sure 994180 is investigated Action Items, by person ----------------------- * kparal * kparal to make sure 994180 is investigated * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * tflink (234) * spstarr_work (126) * kparal (99) * handsome_pirate (64) * Viking-Ice (41) * pschindl (26) * pwhalen (13) * mkrizek (10) * ignatenkobrain (9) * zodbot (9) * jreznik (8) * seasc (7) * dgilmore (6) * dcantrell (4) * roshi (2) * nirik (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Marketing team meeting minutes, August 26, 2013
by Ruth Suehle 26 Aug '13

26 Aug '13

Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-08-26/fedora_marketing… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-08-26/fedora_marketing… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-08-26/fedora_marketing…

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FAmSco meeting 2013-08-26 minutes
by Christoph Wickert 26 Aug '13

26 Aug '13

Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2013-08-26/famsco.2013-08… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2013-08-26/famsco.2013-08… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2013-08-26/famsco.2013-08… Meet you again next week Monday September 2nd at 17:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-2! Regards, Christoph

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QA Meeting Recap - 26 August 2013
by John Dulaney 26 Aug '13

26 Aug '13

Wiki page at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20130826 Fedora 20 Planning TC1 done http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-Alpha-TC1/ TC1 has landed (handsome_pirate, 15:07:15)non working ARM platforms as of today: pandaboard, beaglebone black, trimslice (tflink, 15:15:12)http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/20-Alpha-TC1/Images/armh… (kparal, 15:15:44)work on omap issue has been progressing, new issues in uboot are causing problems on panda (tflink, 15:16:06)for more on booting ARM images with qemu: (tflink, 15:22:28)https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/F19/Installation#… (tflink, 15:22:35)ACTION: handsome_pirate to coordinate with cloud folks for cloud testing and where images are to be located (handsome_pirate, 15:33:27) Open floor Roshi to get out test day schedule soon Action items handsome_pirate to coordinate with cloud folks for cloud testing and where images are to be located John.

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Fedora Docs Meeting Minutes
by Pete Travis 26 Aug '13

26 Aug '13

==================================================================================================== #fedora-meeting: Docs Project Meeting - Agenda: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings ==================================================================================================== Meeting started by randomuser` at 13:59:29 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-08-26/fedora_docs.2013… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (randomuser`, 13:59:29) * Follow up on last week's action items (10 minutes ) (randomuser`, 14:05:36) * Release Notes / Changes (randomuser`, 14:07:58) * Writers can create bugs for themselves to cover our part of the changes process at any time (randomuser`, 14:10:33) * ACTION: randomuser to announce open beats (randomuser`, 14:14:19) * ACTION: randomuser to start creating tracking bugs for Changes (randomuser`, 14:14:39) * Guide Status (randomuser`, 14:14:56) * LINK: https://badges.fedoraproject.org/user/1345 (jhradilek, 14:32:30) * Outstanding BZ tickets (randomuser`, 14:34:49) * LINK: http://tinyurl.com/lbrq84 (randomuser`, 14:35:03) * Open Floor (randomuser`, 14:43:51) Meeting ended at 14:59:55 UTC. Action Items ------------ * randomuser to announce open beats * randomuser to start creating tracking bugs for Changes Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * randomuser to announce open beats * randomuser to start creating tracking bugs for Changes People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * randomuser` (75) * lnovich (28) * Capesteve (15) * jhradilek (12) * jamielinux (10) * zoglesby (6) * croberts (6) * zodbot (5) * swflint (3) * jsmith (2) * jreznik (2) * pkovar (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -- -- Pete Travis - Fedora Docs Project Leader - 'randomuser' on freenode - immanetize(a)fedoraproject.org

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Fedora Kernel Meeting Minutes 08-23-2013
by Josh Boyer 23 Aug '13

23 Aug '13

============================== #fedora-meeting: Fedora Kernel ============================== Meeting started by jwb at 18:09:42 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-08-23/fedora_kernel.20… . Meeting summary --------------- * init (jwb, 18:10:12) * F18 (jwb, 18:11:57) * F18/F19 (jwb, 18:12:31) * Currently on 3.10.9 (jwb, 18:13:34) * Updates to be filed with auto-karma off to ensure at least one day in updates-testing (jwb, 18:16:22) * Lots of testers have shown up all of a sudden. Yay badges? (jwb, 18:16:42) * F20/Rawhide (jwb, 18:22:27) * F20 and Rawhide are kept in sync for now. both at 3.11-rc6-gitX (jwb, 18:22:45) * F20 to be released with 3.11.y (jwb, 18:25:05) * next month (jwb, 18:26:03) * Justin and Josh at LPC (jwb, 18:32:26) * kernel test suite being packaged up (jwb, 18:32:37) * trinity and coverity scans (jwb, 18:32:53) * open floor (jwb, 18:33:16) Meeting ended at 18:37:18 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * jwb (64) * jforbes (16) * nirik (7) * threebean (4) * zodbot (3) * davej (2) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Fedora Chinese Meeting Minutes (2013-08-23)
by Alick Zhao 23 Aug '13

23 Aug '13

Hi all, The IRC meeting minutes tonight are available at the link [1]. Thanks everyone for attending the meeting. In the meeting we talked about Fedora 19 Release Party Beijing and FUDCon bid. Please review the proposed ideas and actions. The next IRC meeting will be held on next Friday (2013-08-30). Please come and join the discussion if you can! [1]: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-zh/2013-08-23/fedora-zh.2013-08-23-… ================== #fedora-zh Meeting ================== Meeting started by alick at 13:17:06 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-zh/2013-08-23/fedora-zh.2013-08-23-… . Meeting summary --------------- * Fedora 19 Release Party Beijing (alick, 13:17:24) * the relparty has been successfully head (alick, 13:17:56) * the relparty has been successfully held (alick, 13:18:32) * LINK: https://wp-awesome.rhcloud.com/2013/08/22/f19-relparty-beijing-report/ (alick, 13:18:38) * LINK: https://wp-awesome.rhcloud.com/2013/08/22/f19-relparty-beijing-report-chn/ (alick, 13:18:45) * LINK: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/H7R3PCL (alick, 13:19:42) * ACTION: alick to send a reminder about the ddl of survey (Aug 31) (alick, 13:20:52) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Flock (gbraad, 13:37:46) * ACTION: alick send an email to the list about small gather up (alick, 13:54:21) Meeting ended at 14:01:15 UTC. Action Items ------------ * alick to send a reminder about the ddl of survey (Aug 31) * alick send an email to the list about small gather up Action Items, by person ----------------------- * alick * alick to send a reminder about the ddl of survey (Aug 31) * alick send an email to the list about small gather up * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * gbraad (51) * alick (40) * BadGirl (5) * zsun_symbian (3) * zodbot (3) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Summary/Minutes from today's Fedora Infrastructure meeting (2013-08-22)
by Kevin Fenzi 22 Aug '13

22 Aug '13

============================================ #fedora-meeting: Infrastructure (2013-08-22) ============================================ Meeting started by nirik at 19:00:08 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-08-22/infrastructure.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * welcome y'all (nirik, 19:00:08) * New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks. (nirik, 19:02:53) * Applications status / discussion (nirik, 19:07:05) * LINK: https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~libravatar/libravatar/trunk/files/head:/libra… (threebean, 19:18:08) * LINK: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~libravatar/libravatar/trunk/view/head:/INSTALL… (nirik, 19:18:40) * Sysadmin status / discussion (nirik, 19:20:37) * apply updates next wed all around (stg first and test with rube) (nirik, 19:22:24) * rdiff backups are up and running. everything in backup_clients ansible group (nirik, 19:24:49) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5721 (we expose tags now? could we also expose icons and descriptions there? ) (nirik, 19:36:23) * Upcoming Tasks/Items (nirik, 19:39:03) * LINK: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/infrastructure/ (nirik, 19:39:03) * Open Floor (nirik, 19:39:57) Meeting ended at 19:51:11 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * nirik (108) * threebean (53) * smooge (19) * lmacken (18) * frankieonuonga (17) * abadger1999 (10) * Xeladem (8) * besser82 (5) * zodbot (4) * oddshocks (4) * ianweller (1) * cyberworm541 (1) * puiterwijk (0) * mdomsch (0) * pingou (0) * relrod (0) * dgilmore (0) -- 19:00:08 <nirik> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2013-08-22) 19:00:08 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Aug 22 19:00:08 2013 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:00:08 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 19:00:08 <nirik> #meetingname infrastructure 19:00:08 <nirik> #topic welcome y'all 19:00:08 <nirik> #chair smooge relrod nirik abadger1999 lmacken dgilmore mdomsch threebean pingou puiterwijk 19:00:08 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure' 19:00:08 <zodbot> Current chairs: abadger1999 dgilmore lmacken mdomsch nirik pingou puiterwijk relrod smooge threebean 19:00:12 * lmacken 19:00:17 * threebean is here 19:00:22 * oddshocks present 19:01:28 <smooge> here 19:02:44 <nirik> ok, lets go ahead and get started. 19:02:53 <nirik> #topic New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks. 19:03:21 <nirik> any new folks or apprentices with questions? 19:03:55 <frankieonuonga> hi guys. 19:03:58 <frankieonuonga> i am kind of new here 19:04:06 <frankieonuonga> i am i think now about two weeks old 19:04:24 <frankieonuonga> still trying to get cultured but nirik has been kind enough to show me around 19:04:41 <nirik> Happy to help out. 19:04:43 <threebean> hi frankieonuonga :) 19:04:51 <frankieonuonga> i do not know what you guys might want to know about me...but ask away and feel free to throw me some tasks to teach me something 19:04:55 <frankieonuonga> threebeen: hi 19:05:17 <Xeladem> Hi everyone,nice to meet you i am new too and hi frankie:) 19:05:28 * oddshocks waves 19:05:31 <nirik> welcome Xeladem 19:05:41 <nirik> Xeladem: are you more interested in sysadmin tasks or application development? 19:05:50 <Xeladem> both :p 19:05:58 * cyberworm541 is here 19:05:59 <nirik> cool. 19:06:18 <nirik> Xeladem: see me after the meeting in #fedora-admin or #fedora-apps and we can point you in the right direction 19:06:32 <Xeladem> Okay cool thx 19:06:34 <Xeladem> :D 19:06:52 <Xeladem> Sorry for my poor english ^^ 19:06:58 <nirik> excellent. well, do chime in with questions and comments anytime. 19:07:05 <nirik> #topic Applications status / discussion 19:07:15 <nirik> any applications news/plans upcoming? 19:07:22 <nirik> badges continues to roll on. 19:08:06 <threebean> yeah, I gotta check on them now.. but I sent an email to the infra list asking for any help with code review on a few pull requests for that. 19:08:26 <nirik> abadger1999: we still waiting on a python-fedora with flask_fas_openid? 19:08:43 <threebean> I guess, if no one has time, I'd really like to merge them and get them out tomorrow. 19:08:57 <lmacken> threebean: I can have a look later this evening if no one gets to them first 19:09:08 <threebean> lmacken: thanks :) 19:09:20 <nirik> I need to ping abompard and see about moving hyperkitty along. 19:09:28 <abadger1999> Hmm.. 19:09:29 <lmacken> threebean: when is the supybot sparklines getting deployed? ;) 19:09:44 <oddshocks> School starts up for me on Monday so I'll be giving my projects more love by then 19:09:44 <abadger1999> The new pythono-fedora isn't released upstream but we have fedora nad epel packages with the relevant backport. 19:10:00 <abadger1999> nirik: when we install that we need to be sure to take out the hotfix in puppet. 19:10:04 <abadger1999> it won't be compatible 19:10:06 <threebean> lmacken: I was going to leave that to ianweller to merge and deploy since its kind of his? 19:10:10 <nirik> abadger1999: right. 19:10:46 <threebean> oddshocks: cool; welcome back :) 19:11:20 <nirik> any other applications updates landing soon? 19:11:27 <threebean> hm, two things: 19:11:57 <threebean> 1) fun stuff -- libravatar trac integration got accepted upstream. there's an epel-testing rpm on the way. 19:12:05 <threebean> so, we can get that in for testing soon. 19:12:11 <nirik> I was thinking of just landing that today or tomorrow... 19:12:20 <nirik> get it done. 19:12:20 <threebean> +1 19:12:38 <threebean> 2) not fun stuff -- there's a python-requests/python-urllib3 update on the way 19:12:45 <threebean> historically, that has caused pain for python-fedora :( 19:12:47 <lmacken> oh boy 19:12:59 <lmacken> I really wish python-urllib3 didn't log.info for each connection :\ 19:13:05 <nirik> Question: should we at some point look at running a libravatar instance? (not sure whats involved, but would be a nice way to give back to them and help spread use) 19:13:24 <nirik> threebean: :( yeah, we should update stg and test as much as we can first. 19:13:33 * threebean nods 19:13:50 <threebean> yeah. its mostly python3 fixes, so its only relevant for fedora, not epel. 19:14:03 <threebean> but I'll leave them in updates-testing for an eon to make sure. 19:14:08 <lmacken> I'd rather hit bugs with that stack now, prior to it getting merged into stdlib ;P 19:14:18 * threebean facepalms 19:14:27 <abadger1999> lmacken: nah -- the stdlib will only get the api right? none of the code? 19:14:46 <abadger1999> that's what was discussed at the python language summit 19:15:00 <lmacken> abadger1999: not sure… I really hope they don't drag the code along with the API 19:15:31 <ianweller> threebean: really anybody can merge stuff for supybot-fedora, i'll see it eventually when i make the release tarball :) 19:15:53 <abadger1999> lmacken: lang summit was a long time ago now but it sounded like guido didn't like kenneth reitz implementation. and he wanted to try reimplementing it on top of his own async stack 9tulip) 19:16:06 <lmacken> abadger1999: ah, yeah tulip-based would be great. 19:16:12 <lmacken> ianweller: plz2merge sparklines ;) 19:16:19 * lmacken wants .quotes 19:16:21 <threebean> nirik: w.r.t. running our own libravatar, I would love for us to. Its just a question of who's stoked about it and has the extra time to do it and maintain it. ;) 19:16:24 * threebean wants .badges too :) 19:16:36 <nirik> threebean: yeah, I can add it to my list to look at someday. 19:16:52 <nirik> it may not be too hard. 19:16:58 <threebean> cool :) 19:17:00 <lmacken> php stack?///////// 19:17:10 <threebean> oh boy! 19:17:15 <nirik> it is? bleh 19:17:20 <lmacken> i don't know, I'm asking ;) 19:17:31 <lmacken> guessing, rather 19:17:46 <lmacken> ruby 19:17:58 <lmacken> oh, I'm looking at the wrong repo I think 19:18:08 <threebean> https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~libravatar/libravatar/trunk/files/head:/libra… 19:18:10 <threebean> python :) 19:18:26 <nirik> Django 19:18:31 <lmacken> awesome, a launchpad site that points to a gitorious repo 19:18:40 <nirik> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~libravatar/libravatar/trunk/view/head:/INSTALL… 19:18:44 <threebean> djamn! 19:19:05 <nirik> heh 19:19:21 <nirik> anyhow, just a random thought, not a priority 19:19:27 <nirik> any other application side news? 19:19:57 <oddshocks> djamn++ 19:20:06 <lmacken> nothing exciting... going to do a bodhi1 bugfix release before I move next week 19:20:11 <lmacken> then I'll be off the grid for the first week of sept 19:20:29 <nirik> cool. ;) 19:20:37 <nirik> #topic Sysadmin status / discussion 19:20:44 <nirik> lets see... on the sysadmin side... 19:20:57 <nirik> I think I want to do a roll up on updates next week before we head into alpha freeze. 19:21:05 <nirik> so far nothing needs reboot, just apply updates. 19:21:15 <threebean> cool :) 19:21:28 <threebean> may I suggest -> we update stg, do a rube run, then update prod? 19:21:38 <nirik> yep. Sounds great. 19:21:49 <nirik> probibly wed next week... 19:22:24 <nirik> #info apply updates next wed all around (stg first and test with rube) 19:22:52 <nirik> I've finished setting up rdiff-backups for us. :) It's on backup03 and sysadmin-main has access to them. 19:23:13 <nirik> It's backing up everything in the backup_clients ansible group 19:23:27 <nirik> if anyone can think of a machine not in there that has data we should backup, please let me know. 19:24:20 <nirik> It's been taking about 6hours to do all them in a mostly serial way. I might look at making it async to finish faster, but 6 hours isn't too bad. 19:24:45 <smooge> especially since it is competing with bacula at the same time 19:24:49 <nirik> #info rdiff backups are up and running. everything in backup_clients ansible group 19:25:15 <nirik> yeah, if things look good after another week or two, I am thinking of killing bacula and replacing it with a simple job that spools all the rdiff-backup ones to tape 19:25:24 <smooge> yay 19:25:35 <nirik> then we can not run bacula-client on all our machines. 19:26:12 <nirik> and speaking of running on all our machines... 19:26:21 <nirik> we have just 2 scripts running in cron that need func. 19:26:28 <threebean> ah, right 19:26:32 <nirik> if someone is interested in porting them to ansible, let me know. 19:26:39 <threebean> that's in cron on lockbox? 19:26:52 <nirik> yeah, they are puppet reporting scripts actually: 19:26:54 <nirik> ./modules/puppet/files/check_puppet_run.py 19:26:55 <nirik> ./modules/puppet/files/make_puppet_reports.py 19:27:01 <threebean> cool 19:27:05 <threebean> no promises here ;p 19:27:18 <nirik> once those are moved, we can not run funcd on all our machines. ;) 19:27:43 <nirik> lets see... 19:27:48 <threebean> lots of other ansible little ansible things made progress 19:27:53 <nirik> smooge: anything I am forgetting? oh... ssl certs... 19:28:00 <threebean> abadger1999: made some progress on the new hosts sop 19:28:09 <smooge> should have ssl done later today. 19:28:12 <nirik> yeah, kudos to misc for helping moving things to roles. I hope to do more too. 19:28:31 <smooge> I am trying to figure out what packages is using all the disk space.. but that is also requiring me to figure out where stuff is stuck on the system 19:28:31 <nirik> smooge: those were *.stg and *.id ? 19:28:35 <smooge> yes sir 19:28:40 <nirik> cool. 19:29:15 <nirik> ok, any other sysadmin side news? 19:29:15 <threebean> smooge: hm, have you checked in /var/cache/fedoracommunity ? 19:29:16 <abadger1999> threebean: aww -- I thought you were telling me you made some progress on that :-) 19:29:23 <threebean> abadger1999: sorry, no. ;) 19:29:28 <threebean> I was talking you up :) 19:29:35 <abadger1999> So yeah, the new-hosts sop is 1/3 to 1/2 done now. 19:30:00 <smooge> I am going trhough /srv/../git.fedoraproject.org at the meoment 19:30:01 <nirik> thanks for working on that abadger1999 19:30:11 <abadger1999> But there's some things about our ansilble vars orgnization that seems non-optimal so I have to clear up some time to look at that to document the next section. 19:30:34 <threebean> smooge: ah -- my bad. I think we're talking about different "packages". (I thought you were talking about the fedora-packages webapp) 19:30:35 <nirik> abadger1999: yeah, I think it's good to identify them and fix them now. Easier than it will be if we pile more on them. 19:30:52 <nirik> smooge: this is packages01.phx2 and packages02.phx2 right? 19:31:21 <nirik> packages01.phx2 != pkgs01 19:31:23 <smooge> nirik, yes packages01/02 19:31:49 <smooge> I did pkgs01 last night :). 19:32:12 <nirik> smooge: ok, looking in /var/cache/fedoracommunity/ might be good... but I'm not sure what can be pruned there off hand. 19:32:32 <threebean> huh.. I didn't even realize there was a /srv/glusterfs/packages/packages/git.fedoraproject.org/ on packages0{1,2} (just found it) 19:32:45 <nirik> thats the raw brick? 19:32:52 <nirik> you shouldn't touch it. 19:32:55 <smooge> well when I do a df it says its on the disk 19:32:59 * threebean steps away 19:33:00 <nirik> unless gluster is off. 19:33:03 <smooge> so I am confused 19:33:32 <smooge> ok so /srv/glusterfs is the brick 19:33:36 <smooge> and not the store 19:33:49 <nirik> gluster has a 'brick' that stores the files, and then it exposes them via nfs or fuse... you operate on the fuse/nfs mount so it can sync to all the indicated bricks 19:33:53 <smooge> I thought the raw brick was a large file I couldn't look at :) 19:34:00 <nirik> nope, it's a tree... 19:34:05 <smooge> ahhhhhh 19:34:11 <smooge> well then I am in the wrong place 19:34:12 <nirik> with some extra acls/metadata 19:34:25 <threebean> a brick-tree. 19:34:40 <nirik> I can poke it after the meeting too... not a big deal, just want it to stop alerting. ;) 19:35:24 <nirik> if needed we could likely increase the size of those instances... 19:35:40 <nirik> oh, that reminds me, I had a packages/tagger question... 19:36:23 <nirik> https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5721 (we expose tags now? could we also expose icons and descriptions there? ) 19:36:50 <threebean> hm. 19:37:03 <nirik> because doing a script on compose seems horrible to me. 19:37:09 <threebean> they are... already exposed through the fedora-packages api? 19:37:18 <threebean> python-pkgwat-api has code to query for them. 19:37:25 <nirik> so, hurray? :) 19:37:38 <threebean> :) 19:38:00 <nirik> dunno about localized descriptions or even where those would be. 19:38:08 <threebean> oof.. yeah. 19:38:29 <nirik> so, if you could reply on ticket perhaps we could sort it, or catch him on irc. 19:38:33 * threebean nods 19:38:35 <threebean> will 19:38:40 <threebean> will see if it'll do what he needs. 19:38:41 <nirik> thanks mucho 19:38:49 <nirik> it seems like it might 19:39:03 <nirik> #topic Upcoming Tasks/Items 19:39:03 <nirik> https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/infrastructure/ 19:39:11 <nirik> I updated our calendar with freezes and such 19:39:18 <nirik> anything else folks want to schedule or note? 19:39:57 <nirik> #topic Open Floor 19:40:04 <nirik> any items for open floor? 19:40:36 <besser82> the fedorabugs-sponsors thing from yesterday's FESCo-meeting, I think :) 19:40:50 <frankieonuonga> just one thing...and I am not sure if i should even ask this..but the dev environ..that is the git used here..is there a guide on how to get on. 19:40:54 <frankieonuonga> sorry if this is silly 19:40:56 <nirik> oh yeah, I was meaning to reply to that on besser82 19:41:16 <nirik> besser82: so, is the main issue that it can be slow? 19:41:24 <nirik> frankieonuonga: not silly at all. 19:41:33 <nirik> anyone have a good getting started with git guide? 19:41:54 <frankieonuonga> like i can use git pretty well...but i dont know where this is for you guys 19:42:03 <frankieonuonga> like where exactly you store the code 19:42:23 <frankieonuonga> in terms of maybe githib.com or girorious...something like that and how to plug to that 19:42:24 <nirik> frankieonuonga: well, for puppet and ansible and infra-docs, etc... it's all git repos on lockbox01. 19:42:42 <nirik> for many of our applications it is github/fedora-infra/ 19:42:43 <besser82> nirik: the main issue here 1) it is slow (sometimes) 2) fedorabugs-group is abused 19:42:48 <frankieonuonga> nirik: you have lost me just a little. 19:43:00 <frankieonuonga> oh ok ok . 19:43:02 <frankieonuonga> got it. 19:43:27 <nirik> besser82: yeah, looks like tickets go direct to tibbs. We could change that to a pool of people. as for fedorabugs, yeah, but is it really worth making a new group just for that? 19:43:31 <threebean> frankieonuonga: if you have any questions about the stuff on github.com/fedora-infra.. the best place to ask is probably #fedora-apps, btw. 19:43:53 <frankieonuonga> i see...ok. 19:43:59 <frankieonuonga> thanks threebean 19:44:05 <besser82> nirik: no need for a new group if all of you are fine with usung fedorabugs :) 19:44:24 <nirik> besser82: the nice thing about fedorabugs is... when someone gets added to packager, they get added to fedorabugs anyhow. 19:44:33 <nirik> so, there's nothing to clean up. ;) 19:44:42 <threebean> frankieonuonga: one more link that might be of help -> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/AppBestPractices 19:44:46 <besser82> nirik: makes sense :) 19:44:54 <threebean> frankieonuonga: its a collection of notes on development practices 19:45:06 <Xeladem> nice :) 19:45:11 <nirik> besser82: anyhow, we can look at fixing it up out of meeting. ;) 19:45:11 <Xeladem> thk 19:45:13 <Xeladem> thx 19:45:45 <besser82> nirik: the pool of people thing... Limited to who / how much? / kk, will you ping me then? 19:46:14 <nirik> besser82: sure, I can... and if I don't you can ping me. ;) Well, we could just make it 'fedorabugs-sponsor-members' for everyone who can sponsor in fedorabugs. ;) 19:47:05 <nirik> any other comments, questions, suggestions? 19:47:22 <threebean> oh, so.. my family is having another baby ;) due date is sept 27 -- This means I'll probably be.. scarce around then. :) 19:48:01 <nirik> congrats! 19:48:05 <threebean> thanks! 19:48:49 <nirik> Oh, I am also planning on being out toward the beginning of october. 19:49:03 <nirik> a week and a few days probibly. 19:49:28 <threebean> cool, cool. 19:49:55 <nirik> anyhow, if nothing else will close out in a min. 19:50:00 <smooge> oh going to Las Cruces? 19:50:07 <frankieonuonga> thanks threebean 19:50:18 <nirik> smooge: nope... fish camp, ca... outside of yosimite. ;) 19:50:26 <smooge> oh even better. No internet 19:50:33 <nirik> yeah, hiking and redwoods. 19:50:43 <smooge> say hi to Sam for me. And remember it is duck season. 19:51:03 <nirik> :) 19:51:09 <nirik> ok, thanks for coming everyone! 19:51:11 <nirik> #endmeeting

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Fedora Board Meeting Minutes :: 2013/08/22
by Josh Boyer 22 Aug '13

22 Aug '13

Meeting started by jwb at 18:00:08 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-08-22/fedora-meeting… . Meeting summary --------------- * #fedora-advisory-board is a thing! join in the fun. (jwb, 18:04:18) * Target audience & alignment with anticipated future directions (jwb, 18:06:43) * draft proposal on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora.next/boardproposal (misc, 18:08:31) * each working group (cloud, server, workstation) will be have its own charter and governance (misc, 18:24:59) * governance /charter still need board/Fesco supervision, current proposal is to have at least 1 FESCO member in the group governance (misc, 18:27:21) * IDEA: The Board reviews the proposal, comes up with a list of questions/suggestions (if any) and provides FESCo feedback before the next FESCo meeting (jwb, 18:46:18) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1158 (mattdm, 18:55:41) * The Board will review the proposal and communicate any questions/suggestions to FESCo by the next FESCo meeting, if not before. Questions are preferred ASAP (jwb, 18:56:29) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1158 (jwb, 18:57:46) * open floor (jwb, 19:00:37) * The Board wishes to thank the people working on Fedora Badges for their excellent efforts at contributor recognition (jwb, 19:03:40) * ACTION: Sparks to send F20 Naming vote announce email (jwb, 19:06:17) * LINK: http://www.fedoraproject.ro/vot-nume-f20 (inode0, 19:08:05) * IDEA: Extend the Release Name voting one week (Sparks, 19:09:51) * F20 Release Name Voting will be extended by 1 week (jwb, 19:11:19) * ACTION: Sparks contact abadger1999 to extend and send the announce (misc, 19:11:34) * IDEA: We make a "Policies and Procedures" guide for the Board that is marked up in DocBook and published similarly as our other official Guides to make it easier for people to find out how we get things done. (Sparks, 19:14:30) * ACTION: Sparks to open Board trac ticket to discuss documenation strategy of Board policies and proceedures (wiki vs. docbook) (jwb, 19:21:35) Meeting ended at 19:27:58 UTC. Action Items ------------ * Sparks to send F20 Naming vote announce email * Sparks contact abadger1999 to extend and send the announce * Sparks to open Board trac ticket to discuss documenation strategy of Board policies and proceedures (wiki vs. docbook) Action Items, by person ----------------------- * abadger1999 * Sparks contact abadger1999 to extend and send the announce * Sparks * Sparks to send F20 Naming vote announce email * Sparks contact abadger1999 to extend and send the announce * Sparks to open Board trac ticket to discuss documenation strategy of Board policies and proceedures (wiki vs. docbook) * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * jwb (124) * Sparks (72) * rbergeron (61) * sgallagh (52) * mattdm (45) * misc (33) * inode0 (30) * abadger1999 (18) * rdieter (16) * Viking-Ice (14) * zodbot (10) * mhayden (9) * jsmith (4) * tflink (3) * quaid (3) * nirik (2) * mjg59 (2) * ianweller (2) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Summary/Minutes from today's irc support sig meeting (2013-08-22)
by Kevin Fenzi 22 Aug '13

22 Aug '13

============================================= #fedora-meeting: IRC Support SIG (2013-08-22) ============================================= Meeting started by nirik at 18:00:00 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-08-22/irc-support-sig.… . Meeting summary --------------- * init process (nirik, 18:00:01) * Week(s) in review (nirik, 18:01:55) * ticket #155 OP complaint - EvilBob (nirik, 18:04:20) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/155 (nirik, 18:04:23) * ticket #156 maltreatment and abuse of power in #fedora-social (nirik, 18:07:29) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/156 (nirik, 18:07:32) * ticket #157 Support for US Embargoed Nations (#fedora FAQ) (nirik, 18:16:32) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/157 (nirik, 18:16:39) * Open Floor (nirik, 18:44:40) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/107 (dcr226, 18:46:36) Meeting ended at 18:51:27 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * nirik (89) * EvilBob (47) * dcr226 (46) * DiscordianUK (24) * randomuser (15) * jsmith (6) * fenrus02 (5) * zodbot (3) -- 18:00:00 <nirik> #startmeeting IRC Support SIG (2013-08-22) 18:00:00 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Aug 22 18:00:00 2013 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:00:00 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 18:00:01 <nirik> #meetingname irc-support-sig 18:00:01 <nirik> #topic init process 18:00:01 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'irc-support-sig' 18:00:07 <nirik> morning everyone 18:00:13 * EvilBob 18:00:17 <DiscordianUK> Hello 18:00:51 * randomuser made it somehow 18:01:07 * nirik will wait a minute for more folks, then start in 18:01:17 <EvilBob> randomuser: You didn't use the teleporter again did you... 18:01:29 <EvilBob> ;) 18:01:55 <nirik> #topic Week(s) in review 18:01:59 <randomuser> if I had a teleporter, I'd be a much happier person 18:02:10 <nirik> anyone have trends or common issues we are seeing more of lately? 18:02:51 <nirik> I've not really noticed any new trends off hand. 18:03:00 <DiscordianUK> Nor me 18:03:46 <EvilBob> I've not been that active the past week or so. 18:03:49 <nirik> ok, shall we move on to tickets then? 18:04:02 <nirik> EvilBob: yeah, I've been pretty busy too... but try and keep an eye out when I can anyhow 18:04:20 <nirik> #topic ticket #155 OP complaint - EvilBob 18:04:23 <nirik> https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/155 18:04:56 <DiscordianUK> I believe EvilBob did the right thing 18:04:58 <nirik> so, nothing to do here. I don't understand why someone would get so upset about being warned. 18:05:20 <DiscordianUK> I've also had to admonish folks about -away recently 18:05:21 <nirik> no reply from them in ticket. 18:05:38 <nirik> proposal: close -> wontfix 18:05:43 <DiscordianUK> jnix is of course a resident in #rhel 18:05:43 <dcr226> user's major problem surrounds the incorrect assumption that nick-changes aren't present in the FAQ. They are. No response from OP, close the ticket 18:05:47 <DiscordianUK> +1 18:06:02 <dcr226> DiscordianUK, not relevant 18:06:05 <EvilBob> Just for the record... 18:06:35 <dcr226> nirik, +1 18:06:37 <EvilBob> The ticket was invalid from the start, I am not now nor have I ever been a channel op in #fedora 18:06:48 <nirik> EvilBob: also true. 18:06:53 <nirik> ok, shall we move on then? 18:06:55 <DiscordianUK> Indeed 18:07:08 <randomuser> +1 for self-policing communities, then 18:07:29 <nirik> #topic ticket #156 maltreatment and abuse of power in #fedora-social 18:07:32 <nirik> https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/156 18:08:00 <nirik> so, EvilBob and nix talked, this seems to be all taking offense at something someone said and getting all worked up 18:08:10 <DiscordianUK> I acted to stop someone who was just retreading the same ground repeatedly 18:08:21 <nirik> also some other random people have been jumping on the ticket who were not there or don't realize this was in social 18:08:21 <DiscordianUK> and quieted them 18:08:24 <EvilBob> I discussed this ticket, my part of it anyhow, with nix\(nixfas) and we left the discussion on positive terms 18:09:11 <DiscordianUK> In that case I suggest we close the ticket with no action required 18:09:47 <nirik> right, so my proposal is we ask everyone to try and relax and not take things so seriously, and if offense is taken to appologize when none is offered 18:10:05 <DiscordianUK> I'll go with that +1 18:11:18 <nirik> counter proposals? more discussion? 18:12:07 <EvilBob> I think it's OK to close at this time, if nix and fenrus02 want to get in to it deeper they can do so privately or re-open 18:12:09 <randomuser> I think sometimes a +q is needed to quell a contentious discussion; the person acted on isn't especially more or less to blame 18:12:27 <nirik> right. to reduce the 'heat' of the channel. 18:12:48 <EvilBob> randomuser: and sometimes sadly the person that gets the +q is not greater offender initially 18:13:11 <randomuser> so I'd suggest stating it that way - not taking sides, but making it clear that the goal is only to place a time out on the *topic* 18:13:16 <randomuser> EOF 18:13:19 * nirik nods. 18:13:41 <EvilBob> sometimes I have +q the less aggressive person just because I know that they will not fight more after and the more agressive party has no one to fight with at the time. 18:13:45 <DiscordianUK> That's a good view 18:14:21 <nirik> right. I think people misconstrue the quiets sometimes. 18:14:42 <EvilBob> I always try to explain when possible 18:14:51 <nirik> yep. 18:15:09 <nirik> ok, further discussion on this one, or move on? 18:15:36 <EvilBob> I think it's OK to close at this time, if nix and fenrus02 want to get in to it deeper they can do so privately or re-open 18:15:45 <nirik> yeah, thats fine with me. 18:15:58 <EvilBob> and by "private" I don't mean PM 18:16:16 <EvilBob> poor choice of words... "Off the list" 18:16:21 <nirik> right 18:16:29 <EvilBob> DEFAULT TO OPEN! 18:16:32 <nirik> #topic ticket #157 Support for US Embargoed Nations (#fedora FAQ) 18:16:39 <nirik> https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/157 18:16:43 <nirik> fun one. ;) 18:17:11 <nirik> I think replacing our embargoed entry with a more general one on help will make some people happy and also improves things... 18:17:17 <EvilBob> IMO this should stay as stated 18:17:28 <DiscordianUK> I am +1 with nirik's proposal 18:17:39 <jsmith> WORKSFORME 18:17:39 <EvilBob> This section of the FAQ was added for a reason 18:17:58 <nirik> EvilBob: how about this... we replace it with the general one, and mail legal asking them if there's a reason for the specific one that needs to be there. If they say yes, we re-add it? 18:18:11 <randomuser> rewording legalistic copy seems sensitive 18:18:16 <EvilBob> until we check the revision history, mailing list, trac tickets and IRC logs... it should stay. 18:18:16 <nirik> I tried to look at discussion around when it was added, but couldn't find it. 18:18:16 <jsmith> +1 to communicating with legal 18:18:27 <jsmith> (it's a sticky topic) 18:18:29 <nirik> no ticket leaped out, or irc meeting 18:18:55 <EvilBob> there was something that happened that lead to it being suggested. 18:18:57 <nirik> but I know it was discussed. Just can't recall the details. 18:19:10 <nirik> They say memory is the second thing to go... I forget what the first is. 18:19:16 <EvilBob> can we have 2 weeks to look in to the history deeper? 18:19:34 <EvilBob> if we can't find the specifics we can change it. 18:19:46 <DiscordianUK> I'd second two weeks 18:19:48 <dcr226> why does it matter? is there a major issue with nirik's revised copy? 18:19:57 <dcr226> if not..let it fly, and let people calm down 18:20:10 <nirik> dcr226: we are wondering if legal asked us to add that, in which case it might be bad to remove it. 18:20:10 <DiscordianUK> I am happy with nirik's draft 18:20:13 <fenrus02> does nirik's rewording somehow invalidate that you can refuse to assist a user from an embargo'd country? 18:20:14 <EvilBob> dcr226: Without looking for the reason it was added, we don't know 18:20:34 <dcr226> I see no point in antagonizing a situation over the wording of a sentence when very few people care about it 18:20:34 * nirik shrugs. I guess we can wait and try and gather more info 18:20:58 <EvilBob> people being "calm" about embargoes and assumed freedoms is never going to happen 18:21:10 <nirik> I'm also fine with changing it and asking for more info to put it back... 18:21:15 <dcr226> I can't remember why it was added either..just remember it being added 18:21:39 <EvilBob> 2 weeks should be enough time to be diligent in our actions 18:21:42 <randomuser> if one wanted to gloss over the issue, embargo status could be listed as one of many reasons that someone might not get helped; others might include "nobody available knows the answer" 18:22:20 <DiscordianUK> Or in the case of one recent case : because I don't use that 18:22:23 <nirik> randomuser: I started to list some things in my last draft, but I think that gets negative soon... or could... 18:22:49 <randomuser> yeah, it would be easy to get too wordy there. I like your draft nirik, fwiw 18:23:14 <nirik> also, when you add lists of things people assume it's just them... and there's more reasons than I can think of to stop helping someone. ;) 18:23:44 <randomuser> true, i withdraw the comment :) 18:24:07 <EvilBob> I may or may not agree with the embargo, the point is that we IMO have an obligation to protect Red Hat from unneeded scrutiny in exchange for their generous ownership of Fedora™ 18:25:10 <DiscordianUK> I'm still +1 with nirik's proposal 18:25:31 <EvilBob> On the other hand, perhaps the DOD and DOJ should be made aware that Red Hat does little to prevent "munitions" that they produce from getting in to the hands of the "enemy" 18:25:49 <dcr226> wow 18:25:54 <nirik> offtopic. 18:25:59 <EvilBob> That could potentially solve all the problems 18:26:22 <nirik> nope, I don't see how it ever could 18:26:40 <dcr226> IIRC, it was never demanded of the sig by Red Hat to ever include that line in the FAQ 18:26:42 <randomuser> we shouldn't get into policy debates at the project level or the international level; the question is one of presentation in the FAQ 18:26:59 <dcr226> that being said, a lot of hassle would be saved by simply deleting that line, and moving on with our lives 18:27:02 <fenrus02> leave it to fpl and or legal 18:27:06 <dcr226> ^^ 18:27:35 <DiscordianUK> ask Counsel if we can't agree here 18:27:48 <EvilBob> randomuser: we can't bury our heads in the sand and ignore the Facts 18:27:51 <nirik> ok, how about: 18:28:07 <EvilBob> 2 weeks is all I asked for to make sure we are not making a mistake 18:28:14 <nirik> add new general entry now, leave embargoed one for a week, ping legal, if they don't care about us having it, remove it then. 18:28:31 <randomuser> nirik, +1 18:28:36 <fenrus02> nirik, wfm. may want fpl's buy-in as well though 18:28:47 <fenrus02> nirik, because they are the ones going to be pinged about it in case of questions 18:28:47 <nirik> EvilBob: I don't look forward to 2 weeks of people piling on to the ticket. ;) 18:28:53 <DiscordianUK> Okay I'll support nirik's revised proposal 18:29:04 <dcr226> DiscordianUK, I think we can just assume you're with nirik 18:29:07 <dcr226> :) 18:29:14 <dcr226> fenrus02, is that still rbergeron ? 18:29:21 <EvilBob> nirik: close the ticket, stating it will be removed in 2 weeks pending further investigation 18:29:31 <nirik> EvilBob: compromise on 1 week? 18:29:37 <fenrus02> dcr226, sure! (not kept track of politics much, but i think it has not changed) 18:29:39 <dcr226> (relatively rhetorical, but a reasonable excuse to nick-highlight) :) 18:30:08 <EvilBob> nirik: I was hoping for some time AFTER the "Labor Day weekend" to make sure I have time and resources to check it out. 18:30:23 * nirik looks at calendar, is that coming up? 18:30:34 <EvilBob> nirik: I don't have access to all my logs until after the 2nd of Sept 18:31:02 <nirik> well, I would think we would get a reply in a week, if only a 'please stand by while we consider it' 18:31:03 <EvilBob> Sept 5th is "2 weeks" 18:31:26 <DiscordianUK> I'm against the irredentist (never help anyone from an embargoed country) mentality dcr226 18:31:56 <dcr226> I dont care what you are for, or against in honesty 18:32:27 * nirik sighs. I'd prefer to just deal with this, 2 weeks seems too long to me. 18:32:32 <dcr226> just noting that you were +1 to everything nirik uttered...and I was getting the idea 18:32:33 <dcr226> :) 18:32:55 * nirik comes up with some crazy proposal for DiscordianUK to agree with 18:32:59 <EvilBob> dcr226: He likes beans 18:33:02 <dcr226> nirik, ginger people 18:33:09 <dcr226> LOL 18:33:20 * nirik is one. ;) 18:33:34 <dcr226> a bean? 18:33:39 <dcr226> :) 18:33:56 <DiscordianUK> The longer the ticket stays open the more crud it will accumulate 18:33:58 <dcr226> isn't "delete the entry" a useful compromise? 18:34:13 <dcr226> on the grounds that the sig was never forced to actually add it in the first place? 18:34:20 <nirik> dcr226: well, we don't know, we can't recall. 18:34:36 <dcr226> Heh 18:34:53 <EvilBob> anyhow, I don't even the time and resources needed in 1 week to check this out, I would need 2 weeks. I really don't think that is asking too much even if every embargoed person comments on the ticket. 18:34:57 <nirik> if there is a reason for it to be there, I would think legal could tell us in 1 week. 18:35:19 <nirik> EvilBob: it's more legal looking into it, no? it doesn't need to be on you 18:35:30 <EvilBob> anyhow, I don't HAVE the time and resources needed in 1 week to check this out, I would need 2 weeks. I really don't think that is asking too much even if every embargoed person comments on the ticket. 18:35:50 <EvilBob> nirik: I may not be something that we need to bother them with 18:35:50 <nirik> you shouldn't need to. 18:36:08 <nirik> I don't think it's a big problem to send an email. 18:36:51 * nirik would be happy to send it off. wait a week and see. 18:37:02 <dcr226> here's a suggestion: 18:37:18 <randomuser> proposal: give EvilBob another week if legal does not reply authoritatively 18:37:43 <nirik> randomuser: sure, you mean if they don't reply in a week or don't say yes or no? 18:38:00 <dcr226> Close the ticket with "None of us are lawyers, but its sad that you guys are offended by the wording. We're going to contact legal straight away and ask for their help implementing a more comforably worded entry for you. Will have a reply ASAP and act accordingly" 18:38:15 <randomuser> i mean, if they don't reply - or do reply but not with directly actionable information 18:38:32 * EvilBob hates involving lawyers in anything 18:38:39 <nirik> dcr226: fine with me. 18:39:08 <EvilBob> ESPECIALLY when they have already been involved with it getting placed there originally 18:39:22 <nirik> randomuser: thats also fine with me. 18:39:22 <dcr226> EvilBob, I dont mind..if I'm not paying 18:39:50 <dcr226> :) 18:39:50 <nirik> so: close per dcr226's suggestion, mail legal, wait a week, if no reply add a week for EvilBob to dig more. 18:40:14 <EvilBob> No consensus... push it a week and then give me a week to look deeper in to it. 18:40:14 <DiscordianUK> Reluctantly +1 18:40:21 <EvilBob> ;) 18:40:54 <dcr226> I think there needs to be a "We're dealing with this, but its gonna take a little while" approach to the ticket to stop it getting out of hand 18:41:02 <nirik> dcr226: yes, I think thats a great idea. 18:41:13 <jsmith> dcr226: I agree 18:41:41 <DiscordianUK> okay yes 18:41:45 <jsmith> Let's send a provisional response saying "We're looking into this... please be patient while we get you a final answer" 18:41:57 <jsmith> while we dig a bit deeper, etc. 18:42:26 <nirik> right, and I'm fine with closing it, since there's no more action to take place in the ticket. 18:42:34 <dcr226> I'd be seriously tempted to close it from further comments, to stop it spiralling 18:42:46 <EvilBob> as I stated 15 minutes ago "<EvilBob> nirik: close the ticket, stating it will be removed in 2 weeks pending further investigation" 18:43:01 <nirik> right, is everyone ok with that plan then? 18:43:13 <dcr226> rock and roll! (+1) 18:43:38 <EvilBob> If I can't find it in my logs and stuff then... we have no reason to keep it. 18:43:48 <nirik> cool. 18:43:56 <nirik> any further discussion on this? or move on? 18:44:05 <EvilBob> move it 18:44:40 <nirik> #topic Open Floor 18:44:48 <nirik> dcr226: you had some old tickets for us to look at closing? 18:44:58 <dcr226> oops, yeah..moment 18:45:10 <dcr226> ok, this one first: https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/147 18:45:27 <dcr226> " This was discussed at the 2013-05-16 meeting, calling for more discussion. " 18:45:35 <nirik> yeah, and nothing happened. 18:45:40 <dcr226> op doesn't seem to much care since (3 months ago), can we just kill it? 18:45:53 <DiscordianUK> Close it 18:45:54 <nirik> I'm fine with closing it with a note asking them to reopen if they have specific changes 18:45:54 <EvilBob> kill 'em all! 18:46:10 <dcr226> yeah, ideal 18:46:28 <dcr226> next one? 18:46:34 <nirik> next 18:46:36 <dcr226> https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/107 18:46:55 <dcr226> I started this, didn't really work how I originally intended..don't think it needs to be alive anymore 18:47:14 <nirik> yeah, it was mostly done. 18:47:21 <EvilBob> dcr226: that one is so old it's maybe time to create a new one to cut the dead weight... 18:47:23 <EvilBob> ;) 18:47:25 <nirik> I think one or two were not cleaned up, but overall it's finished. 18:47:26 <randomuser> wait, there's a SIG membership list for validity of +1's here ? :P 18:47:37 <nirik> randomuser: in theory yeah 18:47:38 <dcr226> EvilBob, Hah 18:48:05 <dcr226> and the last one was https://fedorahosted.org/irc-support-sig/ticket/125 18:48:36 <dcr226> does anyone know if FranciscoD did anything with the wiki? or shall we just leave my comment in the wind for another week? 18:48:38 <nirik> That got done, but needs redone. ;) 18:48:45 <nirik> I'd say ping the ticket and ask him to update it? 18:48:50 <nirik> yeah 18:49:09 <dcr226> ok..so we can just leave that until he wakes..it was very recently that I made a change 18:49:22 <nirik> yeah, he's been around so hopefully he will chime in. 18:49:27 <nirik> any other items for open floor? 18:50:07 <dcr226> I'm spent 18:50:30 <nirik> heh. 18:50:40 <nirik> ok, would anyone like to close tickets this week? 18:50:47 <nirik> if not I can do it, but might not be for a bit. 18:51:06 <dcr226> I can do it in a sec 18:51:13 <nirik> dcr226: that would be lovely. thank you. 18:51:24 <nirik> ok, thanks for coming everyone! 18:51:27 <nirik> #endmeeting

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Summary/Minutes from today's FPC Meeting (2013-08-22 16:00 - 17:45 UTC)
by James Antill 22 Aug '13

22 Aug '13

====================== #fedora-meeting-1: fpc ====================== Meeting started by abadger1999 at 16:01:58 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-08-22/fpc.2013-08-22… . Meeting summary --------------- * https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/327 Python shebangs should not point to /usr/bin/python (abadger1999, 16:04:22) * LINK: http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0394/#migration-notes (Rathann, 16:10:29) * passed a 3 part update to shebang lines. abadger1999 to modify the guidelines to implement the three changes. (abadger1999, 16:36:41) * #328 Soft-static uid/gid allocation for Performance Co-Pilot daemons (abadger1999, 16:36:59) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/328 (abadger1999, 16:39:05) * #329 Packaging Guideline: libtool should be regenerated in SPEC (abadger1999, 16:40:23) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/329 (abadger1999, 16:40:28) * #331 ruby guidelines requiring ruby(release) causes depsolving headache https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/331 (abadger1999, 17:23:52) Meeting ended at 17:46:40 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * abadger1999 (98) * geppetto (41) * Rathann (30) * racor (24) * limburgher (19) * samkottler (16) * tibbs|w (16) * sgallagh (8) * Smoother1rOgZ (8) * RemiFedora (7) * zodbot (5) * dgilmore (5) * tibbs (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Latam Meeting Minutes/ Registros de la reunion de embajadores Latam 2013-08-21
by alejandro perez 21 Aug '13

21 Aug '13

Latam Meeting Minutes/ Registros de la reunion de embajadores Latam 2013-08-21 Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-08-21/fedora_ambassado… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-08-21/fedora_ambassado… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-08-21/fedora_ambassado…

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2013-08-21 @ 16:00 UTC - F20 Alpha Blocker Bug Review #1 Minutes
by Tim Flink 21 Aug '13

21 Aug '13

================================================= #fedora-blocker-review: f20alpha-blocker-review-1 ================================================= Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2013-08-21/f20alpha-… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2013-08-21/f20alpha-… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2013-08-21/f20alpha-… Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (tflink, 16:01:31) * Introduction (tflink, 16:06:59) * Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and freeze exception bugs. (tflink, 16:07:06) * We'll be following the process outlined at: (tflink, 16:07:11) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting (tflink, 16:07:11) * The bugs up for review today are available at: (tflink, 16:07:17) * LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (tflink, 16:07:17) * The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (tflink, 16:07:25) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Alpha_Release_Criteria (tflink, 16:07:25) * Up for review today, we have: (tflink, 16:07:30) * 5 Proposed Blockers (tflink, 16:07:58) * 0 Accepted Blockers (tflink, 16:07:58) * 0 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (tflink, 16:07:58) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 16:08:39) * (901917) rescue a fedora system mode doesn't recognize luks installation (tflink, 16:08:43) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=901917 (tflink, 16:08:46) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 16:08:49) * AGREED: 901917 - RejectedBlocker (alpha) AcceptedFreezeException (alpha) AcceptedBlocker (beta) - Violates the following F20 beta release criterion: "The rescue mode of the installer must be able to detect and mount any installation performed according to the applicable criteria, and provide a shell with access to utilities capable of performing typical recovery operations." (tflink, 16:12:02) * (997690) SizeNotPositiveError: bytes= param must be >=0 (tflink, 16:12:10) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=997690 (tflink, 16:12:10) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, POST (tflink, 16:12:10) * AGREED: 997690 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F20 alpha release criterion: "The installer must be able to complete an installation to a single disk using automatic partitioning." (tflink, 16:19:08) * (985342) illegal instructions with glibc-2.17.90 on armv7hl (tflink, 16:19:18) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=985342 (tflink, 16:19:21) * Proposed Blocker, glibc, ASSIGNED (tflink, 16:19:23) * AGREED: 985342 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F20 alpha release criterion for trimslice (and potentially others): "A system installed with a release-blocking desktop must boot to a log in screen where it is possible to log in to a working desktop using a user account created during installation or a 'first boot' utility." (tflink, 16:30:43) * (979174) initial-setup-text.service does not run on console (tflink, 16:30:53) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=979174 (tflink, 16:30:56) * Proposed Blocker, initial-setup, NEW (tflink, 16:30:59) * AGREED: 979174 - RejectedBlocker (alpha) AcceptedFreezeException (alpha) AcceptedBlocker (beta) - Violates the following F20 beta release criterion for many headless minimal arm installs: "The installer must be able to complete an installation using the serial console interface." (tflink, 16:53:46) * (997149) task systemd-udevd:757 blocked for more than 120 seconds. (tflink, 16:54:02) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=997149 (tflink, 16:54:05) * Proposed Blocker, kernel, MODIFIED (tflink, 16:54:07) * the blocker proposal was transferred to 997149 when 983319 was closed as a dupe - that bug has been re-opened and the proposal for release blocking status moved back (tflink, 17:00:58) * (983319) Install gets stuck returning from Installation Destination spoke (tflink, 17:02:11) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=983319 (tflink, 17:02:13) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, ASSIGNED (tflink, 17:02:16) * AGREED: 983319 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F20 alpha release criterion: "The installer must be able to complete an installation using any supported locally connected storage interface." (tflink, 17:07:23) * Open Floor (tflink, 17:08:15) Meeting ended at 17:16:52 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * tflink (140) * adamw (98) * pwhalen (28) * kparal (24) * Viking-Ice (19) * dgilmore (18) * pschindl (10) * zodbot (6) * mkrizek (6) * jreznik (3) * nonamedotc (2) * nirik (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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FAmNA eeting (20 Aug 2013)
by Dan Mashal 20 Aug '13

20 Aug '13

====================== #fedora-meeting: FAmNA ====================== Meeting started by dan408 at 01:00:52 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-08-21/famna.2013-08-21… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (dan408, 01:01:51) * Tickets (dan408, 01:05:32) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/famna/report/9 (dan408, 01:05:45) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Linuxcon (award3535, 01:15:47) * LINK: http://events.linuxfoundation.org/events/linuxcon-north-america (dan408, 01:16:04) * ACTION: linuxcon and OLF ambassadors to coordinate logistics (dan408, 01:17:10) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ohio_Linux_Fest_2013 (kk4ewt, 01:28:50) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ohio_Linux_Fest_2013 (kk4ewt, 01:29:29) * OLF (dan408, 01:29:40) * AGREED: $2500 for OLD Budget was approved (dan408, 01:47:42) * open floor (dan408, 01:48:14) * ACTION: dan408 to write up a plan (dan408, 02:00:32) Meeting ended at 02:03:31 UTC. Action Items ------------ * linuxcon and OLF ambassadors to coordinate logistics * dan408 to write up a plan Action Items, by person ----------------------- * dan408 * dan408 to write up a plan * **UNASSIGNED** * linuxcon and OLF ambassadors to coordinate logistics People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * dan408 (148) * kk4ewt (63) * award3535 (44) * masta (43) * inode0 (35) * zodbot (11) * StabbyMc_ (3) * nb (0) * rbergeron (0)

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Re: [Fedora-fr-list] REMINDER French Fedora Meeting Today #fedora-meeting-1
by Casper 20 Aug '13

20 Aug '13

Reminder a écrit : > This mail is a reminder for today's meeting for the French speaking community. > > 2013-08-20 / 21:00 (hour of Paris) > IRC: freenode > #fedora-meeting-1 Bonsoir, voici le compte-rendu de la réu de ce soir : http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-08-20/fedora-fr.2013… Casper -- Pour encrypter vos emails Clef GPG ID : 83288189 @ hkp://pgp.mit.edu:11371 Empreinte : CC26 692F 5205 AC8F 7912 7783 D7A7 F4C5 8328 8189

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[Marketing] Meeting Minutes 19/8/13
by Zacharias Mitzelos 19 Aug '13

19 Aug '13

So the meeting took a bit longer than we expected, but a lot of issues were discussed and new ideas were recommended about the magazine. See you everyone on the next meeting :) Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-08-19/fedora_marketing… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-08-19/fedora_marketing… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-08-19/fedora_marketing…

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[FAmSCo] Meeting minutes 2013-08-19
by Christoph Wickert 19 Aug '13

19 Aug '13

Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2013-08-19/famsco.2013-08… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2013-08-19/famsco.2013-08… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2013-08-19/famsco.2013-08…

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Famsco Meeting Minutes 2013-08-19
by alejandro perez 19 Aug '13

19 Aug '13

We have nice information meeting. Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2013-08-19/famsco.2013-08… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2013-08-19/famsco.2013-08… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2013-08-19/famsco.2013-08…

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APAC meeting Summary = Saturday, August 17th, 2013 at 04:00 UTC‏
by David Ramsey 19 Aug '13

19 Aug '13

Hello All, APAC meeting Summary = Saturday, August 17th, 2013 at 04:00 UTC‏ fedora-meeting.2013-08-17-04.03.html fedora-meeting.2013-08-17-04.03.log.html fedora-meeting.2013-08-17-04.03.log.txt fedora-meeting.2013-08-17-04.03.txt Note: Mr. Joerg's information, that Joerg has requested us to announce that all receipt should please be uploaded as pdfs, in clear readable form for reimbursements. ====================== #fedora-meeting: FAmAPAC ====================== Meeting summary https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2013-08-17#Agenda (dramsey, 04:03:32) Roll call (dramsey, 04:04:07) Announcements (dramsey, 04:05:22) Review action items from last meeting (dramsey, 04:09:15) Trac tickets (dramsey, 04:12:32) Open Floor (dramsey, 04:22:54) Meeting ended at 04:42:21 UTC (full logs). Action items (none) People present (lines said) dramsey (80) Orca-Krilozona (24) niteshnarayanlal (13) zodbot (7) kushal (2) maktrix (2)

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