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Summary/Minutes from today's FPC Meeting (2014-03-13 17:00 - 18:55 UTC)
by James Antill 13 Mar '14

13 Mar '14

====================== #fedora-meeting-1: fpc ====================== Meeting started by abadger1999 at 17:02:26 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2014-03-13/fedora-meeting… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (abadger1999, 17:02:32) * #339 software collections in Fedora (abadger1999, 17:05:30) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/339 (abadger1999, 17:05:34) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1066665 (abadger1999, 17:06:00) * #382 Go Packaging Guidelines Draft (abadger1999, 17:07:13) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/382 (abadger1999, 17:07:19) * #385 workarounds for rpm symlink <-> directory issue (abadger1999, 17:08:32) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/385 (abadger1999, 17:08:37) * workaround for rpm symlink <-> directory issues approved (+1:7, 0:0, -1:0) (abadger1999, 17:16:58) * #391 Exception for bundled libraries in icecat (abadger1999, 17:17:15) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/391 (abadger1999, 17:17:19) * #396 Reserve static UID/GID for OpenStack ironic daemon (abadger1999, 17:18:55) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/396 (abadger1999, 17:19:01) * #397 Please, choose an ID number for a new group called "input" (abadger1999, 17:22:37) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/397 (abadger1999, 17:22:41) * #398 Tilde in version (abadger1999, 17:32:28) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/398 (abadger1999, 17:32:45) * #399 request for bundled library exception - clustal omega (abadger1999, 17:56:58) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/399 (abadger1999, 17:57:04) * Clustal omega allowed to bundle squid: (+1:6, 0:1, -1:0) (abadger1999, 18:00:04) * 392: bundling expception for greenmail (abadger1999, 18:00:51) * greenmail's use of james considered a fork (+1:5, 0:0, -1:0) (abadger1999, 18:01:52) * 391 Exception for bundled libraries in icecat (abadger1999, 18:02:35) * #406 How to handle Doxygen documentation with new jQuery no-bundling rules? (abadger1999, 18:05:28) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/406 (abadger1999, 18:05:32) * Temporary bundling of jquery through F21 (Packages need to unbundle for F22) is at (+1:4, 0:0, -1:0) voting to continue in ticket. (abadger1999, 18:11:43) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=517856#c15 (abadger1999, 18:14:46) * #404 Update python packaging guidelines (abadger1999, 18:22:21) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/404 (abadger1999, 18:22:26) * Python updates prposal from tyll (+1:4, 0:0, -1:0) Will look for the remaining vote in ticket. (abadger1999, 18:25:33) * #402 Promote /usr/lib/rpm/macros.d over /etc/rpm (abadger1999, 18:25:37) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/402 (abadger1999, 18:25:45) * Update rpm macros directory (+1:4, 0:0, -1:0) Will seek additional votes in the ticket. (abadger1999, 18:29:11) * 403 Resolve conflict between libeio and eio (enlightenment library) (abadger1999, 18:30:29) * Allow passenger to bundle libeio (+1:0, 0:0, -1:3). Going to say this is unlikely to pass in ticket; we should look at renaming. (abadger1999, 18:43:08) Meeting ended at 18:54:10 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * abadger1999 (166) * geppetto (38) * RemiFedora (25) * Rathann (20) * limburgher_ (8) * limburgher (7) * racor (6) * sagitter (6) * zodbot (5) * tibbs|w (5) * mattdm (3) * rsquared (2) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Summary/Minutes from today's Fedora Infrastructure meeting (2014-03-13)
by Kevin Fenzi 13 Mar '14

13 Mar '14

============================================ #fedora-meeting: Infrastructure (2014-03-13) ============================================ Meeting started by nirik at 18:00:08 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-03-13/infrastructure.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * welcome y'all (nirik, 18:00:08) * New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks (nirik, 18:01:59) * Applications status / discussion (nirik, 18:03:28) * LINK: https://admin.stg.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/ <- for anyone who wants to look at it. (nirik, 18:05:07) * pkgdb2 is in staging now. (nirik, 18:06:42) * new fedocal 0.6.0 in production (nirik, 18:06:50) * mailman3 test list is very close to being ready to test. (nirik, 18:09:27) * bugzilla -> fedmsg is moving slowly forward. (nirik, 18:11:42) * Sysadmin status / discussion (nirik, 18:12:02) * netapp still slow, still waiting on moving storage to a new filer. (nirik, 18:12:25) * added another compute node to our cloud to help copr capacity (nirik, 18:12:45) * Upcoming Tasks/Items (nirik, 18:21:49) * LINK: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/infrastructure/ (nirik, 18:21:49) * FAD (nirik, 18:26:47) * LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/infrastructure/2014-February/0141… (threebean, 18:26:58) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Bodhi2_Taskotron_2014 (nirik, 18:27:26) * please invite and add anyone who would be good to have for the bodhi2/taskotron fad to the wiki page. (nirik, 18:34:16) * possibly a fas3 fad could also be done seperately. (nirik, 18:34:31) * Open Floor (nirik, 18:37:11) * LINK: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinosaur_Bar-B-Que (threebean, 18:39:14) * remember github2fedmsg hack/virtual FAD next week (pingou, 18:43:01) Meeting ended at 18:43:30 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * nirik (81) * dgilmore (30) * pingou (21) * threebean (14) * smooge (6) * zodbot (4) * danofsatx-work (3) * tflink (2) * lmacken (1) * relrod (1) * puiterwijk (0) * abadger1999 (0) * mdomsch (0) -- 18:00:08 <nirik> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2014-03-13) 18:00:08 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Mar 13 18:00:08 2014 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 18:00:08 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 18:00:08 <nirik> #meetingname infrastructure 18:00:08 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure' 18:00:08 <nirik> #topic welcome y'all 18:00:08 <nirik> #chair smooge relrod nirik abadger1999 lmacken dgilmore mdomsch threebean pingou puiterwijk 18:00:08 <zodbot> Current chairs: abadger1999 dgilmore lmacken mdomsch nirik pingou puiterwijk relrod smooge threebean 18:00:17 <smooge> here 18:00:18 <relrod> here 18:00:20 * lmacken 18:00:22 <nirik> hello everyone. Whos around for infra meeting time? 18:00:57 * pingou 18:01:59 <nirik> #topic New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks 18:02:13 * threebean is here 18:02:15 <nirik> Any new folks like to introduce themselves? or apprentices with questions or comments? 18:02:37 * dgilmore is here 18:02:43 * tflink is lurking 18:02:43 <pingou> hi dgilmore 18:02:55 * danofsatx-work is present, grabbing PB&J..... 18:03:11 <nirik> FYI, I am gonna try and file some more easyfix tickets soon... get rolling on another round of ansible migrations most likely. 18:03:18 <dgilmore> hola pingou 18:03:28 <nirik> #topic Applications status / discussion 18:03:39 <nirik> Any application side news or discussion? 18:03:50 <pingou> pkgdb2 made it to stg 18:03:58 <nirik> hurray. 18:04:02 <pingou> but I'm waiting still a little before announcing it :) 18:04:11 <threebean> :) 18:04:32 <nirik> pingou: so when we move that to prod, we still need it's cron jobs etc in puppet for bapp02? or does it have the same ones as pkgdb1? (I think i asked, but can't recall) 18:04:33 <pingou> and abadger1999 and I have been working on the pkgdb2 python module (and pkgdb-cli update), see results at https://github.com/fedora-infra/packagedb-cli/pull/1 18:04:40 * dgilmore needs to look at pingus questions 18:05:02 <dgilmore> I flagged the email for followup 18:05:07 <nirik> https://admin.stg.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/ <- for anyone who wants to look at it. 18:05:21 <pingou> nirik: the cron needs to be adjusted a little (only from where it retrieves its data), otherwise it should work in the same way 18:05:40 <pingou> but I didn't test more than that, I hoped abadger1999 would take care of this part :] 18:05:57 <nirik> ok,we can look more. I need to figure out what to do with bapp02 as far as migration. 18:05:58 <pingou> (I just tried to check the data retrieved has the same structure) 18:06:20 <pingou> and there is a new fedocal in prod, 0.6.0 18:06:32 <nirik> cool. 18:06:42 <nirik> #info pkgdb2 is in staging now. 18:06:50 <nirik> #info new fedocal 0.6.0 in production 18:06:52 <threebean> some news: fedora-tagger got ported over to ansible, now on new nodes. fedora-packages is on the way, but I'm not quite done with it yet. rebuilding the xapian db a few times to make sure I get it right.. and its really time-consuming (many hours) 18:07:28 <nirik> threebean: oh you know there was a trac ticket on splitting tagger and packages in puppet. we can likely close that now. 18:07:39 <threebean> ooh, no. I'll look for it and handle it though. 18:08:13 <nirik> cool. 18:08:42 <nirik> I know abompard was working on mailman3 setup some more. We should have a live test list any day now. ;) 18:08:49 <threebean> \ó/ 18:08:54 <pingou> \ó/ 18:09:00 <nirik> and he wrote a migration script to help us when migrating lists 18:09:27 <nirik> #info mailman3 test list is very close to being ready to test. 18:10:22 <nirik> ok, anything else on application side of things? 18:10:43 <threebean> hm, maybe just what we talked briefly about earlier in fedora-apps 18:10:59 <threebean> we heard that there is motion on getting redhat bugzilla to produce messages we can use for fedmsg. 18:11:08 <threebean> so, expect more soon (next few months) 18:11:27 <nirik> yeah, early days, but something. ;) 18:11:36 * pingou can't wait! 18:11:42 <nirik> #info bugzilla -> fedmsg is moving slowly forward. 18:12:02 <nirik> #topic Sysadmin status / discussion 18:12:12 <nirik> lets see. On the sysadmin side... 18:12:25 <nirik> #info netapp still slow, still waiting on moving storage to a new filer. 18:12:45 <nirik> #info added another compute node to our cloud to help copr capacity 18:13:02 <nirik> we have new machines in various places that aren't racked yet... 18:13:49 <nirik> There's been some new ansible versions with some regressions... should be a new version out in the next day or so to address them. 18:14:24 <nirik> I had an idea about using rsync batch files for mirrors, but I don't know if it's enough win to bother with... 18:14:35 <nirik> dgilmore: ^ did you see my rsync batch file email on infra list? 18:15:18 <nirik> I was pointed to https://github.com/warthog9/syncdiff as a better solution down the road (but it's not ready yet at all) 18:16:18 <dgilmore> nirik: not yet 18:16:46 <nirik> it would only help mirrors that a) use it, and b) are up to date daily. 18:17:28 <nirik> anyhow, any other sysadmin type things? ansible migration is still moving along nicely. 18:17:29 <dgilmore> I would like us to trigger when mirrors pull 18:17:53 * threebean nods 18:18:04 <nirik> dgilmore: yeah, we could do that too with fedmsg or if we are doing batches, the existance of the batch file. 18:18:15 <threebean> well, hopefully, eventually. 18:18:35 <dgilmore> but yeah something needs to change 18:18:56 <smooge> I have done some statistics.. we have 390 mirrors checking the download servers. Most of them get epel and most of them aren't registered 18:19:05 <nirik> the biggest issue with our download servers is the non tier1 mirrors. 18:19:07 <nirik> yeah. 18:19:49 <smooge> I need to get a dump from mirror manager to double check as I was eyeballing the registered/non-registered part 18:20:41 <nirik> anyhow, we can work on ideas and hopefully throw netapp hardware at it soon. ;) 18:21:12 <nirik> anything else from the sysadmin side? 18:21:49 <nirik> #topic Upcoming Tasks/Items 18:21:49 <nirik> https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/infrastructure/ 18:22:00 <nirik> anything upcoming folks would like to schedule or note? 18:22:19 <nirik> I'm going to be gone next thursday and friday. 18:22:26 <nirik> so, someone else will need to run the meeting next week. :) 18:22:28 <danofsatx-work> some more "easyfix" tickets for us apprentices to get spun up on would be nice.... 18:22:30 <smooge> we will have an outage in 2 weeks that will be affecting ousosl servers 18:22:44 <nirik> danofsatx-work: yeah, gonna try and do some tomorrow. ;) 18:22:53 <nirik> smooge: did they pin down a date/time yet? 18:26:26 <threebean> nirik: hey, I'll run the meeting next week. 18:26:29 <nirik> anyhow, we can schedule that when it happens. 18:26:35 <nirik> threebean: cool. thanks. 18:26:47 <nirik> #topic FAD 18:26:57 <threebean> also, next week we're sprinting on a project in #fedora-apps monday-wednesday 18:26:58 <threebean> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/infrastructure/2014-February/0141… 18:27:02 <nirik> We have made a bit more planning progress on that bodhi2/taskotron fad. ;) 18:27:12 <nirik> nice. ;) 18:27:26 <nirik> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Bodhi2_Taskotron_2014 18:28:05 <smooge> nirik just checked. no pin down yet. 18:28:26 <nirik> more releng and qa folks would be good to see about inviting... as well as any other python coders/infra folks... 18:28:39 <nirik> dgilmore / adamw ^ 18:29:05 <nirik> looking like early june might be the best time? 18:29:11 <dgilmore> nirik: could be doable, might be going to Brazil in May 18:29:24 <dgilmore> nirik: only heard of it last night 18:29:31 <nirik> nice. 18:30:10 <tflink> nirik: a lot of the other qa folks are in brno, not sure how practical it would be 18:30:13 <nirik> anyhow, do mention it to anyone who could be good to contribute. 18:30:28 <nirik> tflink: yeah, not sure. Of course we can do remote/over the net work too... 18:30:39 <pingou> I have been wondering if we should make a FAS3 FAD about the same time (since the people involved in Bodhi2/Taskotron and FAS don't overlap too much), would it be an idea? 18:30:50 <dgilmore> could do a cohosted Brno/Denver thing? 18:30:54 <nirik> pingou: possibly. 18:31:37 <nirik> pingou: that would be: you, Smoother1rOgZ, abadger1999 ? 18:31:44 <pingou> could be in Paris, since I'm close, Smoother1rOgZ leaves there, puiterwijk is also close, and I guess abadger1999 would the only one to have to flight over 18:32:05 <nirik> might be worth looking into yeah. ;) 18:32:05 <dgilmore> pingou: if we are going to do a FAS3 id like to see us relook at how we issue certs/keys for koji 18:32:22 <nirik> yeah, would be nice to have that under fas... 18:32:26 <pingou> dgilmore: good idea 18:32:41 <pingou> Smoother1rOgZ: for your text notifs: dgilmore | pingou: if we are going to do a FAS3 id like to see us relook at how we issue certs/keys for koji 18:32:45 <dgilmore> existing setup is a bit clunky and a SPOF 18:33:18 <nirik> also, if we can make it so we can have reminders before expire, revoke cert on inactive accounts, etc. 18:33:34 <dgilmore> yep 18:33:43 <dgilmore> lots of area for improvement tehre 18:33:45 <dgilmore> there 18:33:52 * nirik nods. 18:34:16 <nirik> #info please invite and add anyone who would be good to have for the bodhi2/taskotron fad to the wiki page. 18:34:27 <dgilmore> maybe we could look at doing KRB now that you can have multiple realms easily 18:34:31 <nirik> #info possibly a fas3 fad could also be done seperately. 18:34:38 <dgilmore> and get rid of certs and keys 18:35:13 * nirik isn't sure that would still meet our needs. there were other issues too... 18:35:31 <dgilmore> nirik: right it may not 18:35:37 <nirik> but dunno. 18:35:41 <dgilmore> but it could be worth looking at 18:35:44 <nirik> sure. 18:35:55 <nirik> if it works for all we need, great... I just don't think it does... 18:35:55 <dgilmore> maybe in additon. i.e. you could choose which to use 18:36:12 <dgilmore> but it would be more to run 18:36:19 <dgilmore> kerberos server etc 18:36:46 <nirik> yeah. kerb server would be a SPOF... and we can't do our sponsor/admin model of groups I don't think... 18:37:06 <nirik> anyhow, it's fine to explore. Perhaps it does work for all we need now. 18:37:11 <nirik> #topic Open Floor 18:37:18 <nirik> anyone have any items for open floor? 18:37:31 <nirik> questions, comments, favorite bbq? 18:37:36 <dgilmore> nirik: could be another option that we could move to easily also :) 18:37:59 <dgilmore> nirik: favourite bbq is all of them 18:38:07 <smooge> none of them anymore 18:38:11 <danofsatx-work> Rudy's BBQ : www.rudysbbq.com 18:38:25 * dgilmore should make some ribs :) yummy 18:38:49 * pingou knows only one kind of bbq, it involves friends and grilled meat 18:39:14 <threebean> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinosaur_Bar-B-Que 18:40:09 <nirik> nice. 18:40:16 <nirik> ok, if nothing else will close out in a minute. 18:40:29 <dgilmore> pingou: id want to be involved in FAS3 18:41:01 <dgilmore> but other than thatI have nothing 18:41:19 <pingou> dgilmore: sure, Smoother1rOgZ is the one leading the effort 18:41:36 <pingou> dgilmore: there is a FAS3 branch on the fas git, but nothing very advanced for the moment 18:41:52 <dgilmore> pingou: :) cool. is it on fedorahosted? 18:42:23 <pingou> dgilmore: I don't know if Smoother1rOgZ sync it there, I know he did, but I don't know how in sync they are these days 18:42:35 <pingou> hopefully from next week this will no longer be a problem 18:42:42 <dgilmore> my main are of interest is with managing koji auth 18:42:51 * dgilmore refuses to use github 18:43:01 <pingou> #info remember github2fedmsg hack/virtual FAD next week 18:43:26 <nirik> ok, thanks for coming everyone! 18:43:30 <nirik> #endmeeting

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Summary/Minutes from today's irc support sig meeting (2014-03-13)
by Kevin Fenzi 13 Mar '14

13 Mar '14

============================================= #fedora-meeting: IRC Support SIG (2014-03-13) ============================================= Meeting started by nirik at 17:00:18 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-03-13/irc-support-sig.… . Meeting summary --------------- * init process (nirik, 17:00:18) Meeting ended at 17:04:12 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * nirik (6) * zodbot (3) -- 17:00:18 <nirik> #startmeeting IRC Support SIG (2014-03-13) 17:00:18 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Mar 13 17:00:18 2014 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:00:18 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 17:00:18 <nirik> #meetingname irc-support-sig 17:00:18 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'irc-support-sig' 17:00:18 <nirik> #topic init process 17:01:44 * nirik will wait around for a bit for more folks, then close out if no one else is around. :) 17:04:09 <nirik> alright then, will try again next week. ;) 17:04:12 <nirik> #endmeeting

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Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2014-03-12)
by Matthew Miller 12 Mar '14

12 Mar '14

=================================== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2014-03-12) =================================== Meeting started by mattdm at 18:00:36 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-03-12/fesco.2014-03-12… . Meeting summary --------------- * init process (mattdm, 18:00:50) * Followups (mattdm, 18:04:58) * #1178 Fedora 21 scheduling strategy (mattdm, 18:05:01) * AGREED: accept provisional schedule with "no earlier than" labels; will make firm after change submission deadline. (+8,0,0) (mattdm, 18:12:50) * proposed schedule does cut things close with expected new upstream kernel release (mattdm, 18:13:45) * FESCo is fine with shipping at-the-time current kernel, which will be then updated as normal (mattdm, 18:15:08) * #1243 Consider release blocking status of KDE spin(?) for Fedora 21 in .next decision-making (mattdm, 18:16:06) * LINK: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/fesco/fesco.2014-02-19-18.00.log.htm… <-- see again (pjones, 18:36:11) * AGREED: defer 1-2 weeks for KDE Product Proposal. If we don't approve that in two weeks we can revisit whether to make the KDE spin release-blocking. (+7,0,0) (mattdm, 18:43:35) * #1230 Requesting FESCo address Cherokee logo issue (mattdm, 18:45:13) * #1240 taking ownership of packages fityk and sundials (mattdm, 18:46:02) * AGREED: Packages will be reassigned (+6,0,0) (mattdm, 18:49:56) * New Business (mattdm, 18:51:15) * #1252 mesa 10.0.3 updates exemption for F20 (mattdm, 18:51:17) * when filing an update exception request with fesco, please make sure you turn off autokarma (mattdm, 19:09:00) * ACTION: mattdm to update policy with autokarma note (mattdm, 19:14:19) * AGREED: libxatracker soname bumps are considered an exception from the updates or a a case where the policy is not applicable, given the unique situation (a library with a single intended user) as long as the user of that library is updated in sync. (+6,0,0) (mattdm, 19:16:52) * #1244 F21 System Wide Change: cron to systemd time units (mattdm, 19:17:09) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/cron-to-systemd-time-units (mattdm, 19:17:10) * AGREED: cron to systemd time units change accepted (+7,0,1) (mattdm, 19:21:24) * #1245 F21 System Wide Change: System-wide crypto policy (mattdm, 19:22:42) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/CryptoPolicy (mattdm, 19:22:45) * notting is +1, but strongly suggests rewriting the proposed security levels to something that does not require a t8m/sgrubb translator for the common sysadmin (mattdm, 19:29:02) * AGREED: system-wide crypto policy change accepted (+6,0,1) (mattdm, 19:31:45) * #1246 F21 System Wide Change: Access control in PCSC (mattdm, 19:31:54) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/PcscAccessControl (mattdm, 19:31:57) * AGREED: access control in pcsc system-wide change accepted (+6,0,1) (mattdm, 19:33:57) * #1247 F21 System Wide Change: Remove python-setuptools-devel (mattdm, 19:34:09) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Remove_Python-setuptools-devel (mattdm, 19:34:13) * AGREED: remove python-setuptools-devel system-wide change is accepted (+7,0,0) (mattdm, 19:35:12) * #1248 F21 System Wide Change: Ruby 2.1 (mattdm, 19:35:24) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Ruby_2.1 (mattdm, 19:35:28) * this requires a mini-mass rebuild for native ruby extensions so schedule needs to account for that. (mattdm, 19:36:45) * AGREED: ruby 2.1 system-wide change is accepted (+7,0,0) (mattdm, 19:37:42) * #1249 F21 System Wide Change: Lohit Odia Gurmukhi font naming (mattdm, 19:37:50) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes//Lohit_Odia_Gurmukhi (mattdm, 19:37:53) * AGREED: Lohit Odia Gurmukhi font naming system-wide change is accepted (+8,0,0) (mattdm, 19:40:36) * #1250 F21 Self Contained Changes for week 11 (mattdm, 19:40:51) * Allwiner sunxi ARM SoC support (mattdm, 19:40:55) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/AllwinnerSunxiSupport (mattdm, 19:40:57) * OpenCL (mattdm, 19:40:59) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/OpenCL (mattdm, 19:41:01) * AGREED: OpenCL self-contained change accepted. Deferring another week on Allwinner ARM for status update. (+5,-2,0) (mattdm, 19:51:57) * Next week's chair (mattdm, 19:52:45) * nirik to chair next week (mattdm, 19:54:19) * Open Floor (mattdm, 19:54:27) Meeting ended at 20:02:02 UTC. Action Items ------------ * mattdm to update policy with autokarma note Action Items, by person ----------------------- * mattdm * mattdm to update policy with autokarma note * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * mattdm (188) * nirik (80) * abadger1999 (59) * mitr (58) * pjones (50) * jreznik (34) * notting (33) * jwb (29) * drago01_ (27) * t8m (25) * Viking-Ice (23) * adamw (20) * zodbot (19) * Kevin_Kofler (4) * ltinkl_ (1) * sgallagh (0) * mmaslano (0) * dgilmore (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -- Matthew Miller -- Fedora Project -- <mattdm(a)fedoraproject.org>

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FAmNA Meeting minutes (11 March 2014)
by Dan Mashal 11 Mar '14

11 Mar '14

====================== #fedora-meeting: FAmNA ====================== Meeting started by dan408- at 01:15:05 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-03-12/famna.2014-03-12… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (dan408-, 01:15:20) * Announcements (dan408-, 01:16:41) * Tickets (dan408-, 01:17:26) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/famna/report/9 (dan408-, 01:17:38) * Tickets (dan408-, 01:19:37) * ACTION: ParadoxGuitarist will handle the west coast box and try to contact the current holders of the other 2 event boxes (dan408-, 01:28:19) * ACTION: masta to confer with famsco to see if RH can make the ambassador program more rewarding (dan408-, 01:36:27) * ACTION: jsandys to discuss with rbergeron further details (dan408-, 01:47:44) * Open Floor (dan408-, 01:50:18) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-badges/ticket/250 ? (threebean, 01:55:07) Meeting ended at 02:00:32 UTC. Action Items ------------ * ParadoxGuitarist will handle the west coast box and try to contact the current holders of the other 2 event boxes * masta to confer with famsco to see if RH can make the ambassador program more rewarding * jsandys to discuss with rbergeron further details Action Items, by person ----------------------- * jsandys * jsandys to discuss with rbergeron further details * masta * masta to confer with famsco to see if RH can make the ambassador program more rewarding * ParadoxGuitarist * ParadoxGuitarist will handle the west coast box and try to contact the current holders of the other 2 event boxes * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * dan408- (108) * masta (35) * ParadoxGuitarist (28) * jsandys (19) * wrnash1 (13) * zodbot (8) * threebean (4) * adamw (2) * kk4ewt (0) * nb (0) * Southern_Gentlem (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Re: [Ambassadors] REMINDER French Fedora Meeting Today #fedora-meeting-1
by Emmanuel Seyman 11 Mar '14

11 Mar '14

* Reminder [11/03/2014 08:30] : > > This mail is a reminder for today's meeting for the French speaking community. > > 2014-03-11 / 21:00 (hour of Paris) > IRC: freenode > #fedora-meeting-1 Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2014-03-11/fedora-fr.2014… http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2014-03-11/fedora-fr.2014… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2014-03-11/fedora-fr.2014… Emmanuel

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Meeting minutes for Env-and-Stacks WG meeting (2014-03-11)
by Marcela Mašláňová 11 Mar '14

11 Mar '14

============================================ #fedora-meeting: Env and Stacks (2014-03-11) ============================================ Meeting started by mmaslano at 16:04:33 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-03-11/env-and-stacks.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * init process (mmaslano, 16:04:57) * April 7th is deadline for Change proposals, no new big changes which means interaction of more projects/people or more releng work can be added (mmaslano, 16:14:42) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1221#comment:28 <= that's what I was remembering... not sure it's the right ticket. (abadger1999, 16:15:09) * AGREED: Playground repo: mirroring - no mirroring at start accepted (+5,-0,0) (mmaslano, 16:21:07) * Playground repo: mirroring https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/env-and-stacks/2014-March/000288.… (mmaslano, 16:21:22) * AGREED: Playground repo: self-hosting - Playground must be selfhosted (passed, no-one objected on mailing list) (mmaslano, 16:22:32) * Playground repo: self-hosting https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/env-and-stacks/2014-March/000289.… (mmaslano, 16:22:53) * deltarpms for the Playground repo (tjanez, 16:23:48) * AGREED: deltarpms are Optional but nice to have. (mmaslano, 16:33:15) * signing packages for Playground (mmaslano, 16:34:00) * implemenation of signing will take probably 4 monts (mmaslano, 16:34:14) * ACTION: mmaslano will investigate with msuchy if it can be signed outside of COPR, why it takes 4 months, how to sign only some packages, .... (mmaslano, 16:40:21) * will fedup support upgrades with packages there? (mmaslano, 16:41:28) * AGREED: encourage packagers (via documentation) to take care that their packages properly survive Fedora upgrades (mmaslano, 17:10:01) * we'll also implement a way to automatically notify the package owners about broken dependencies, etc. (tjanez, 17:11:40) * multilib support in Playground (mmaslano, 17:12:31) * AGREED: multilib is nice to have, just document it (mmaslano, 17:26:12) Meeting ended at 17:33:48 UTC. Action Items ------------ * mmaslano will investigate with msuchy if it can be signed outside of COPR, why it takes 4 months, how to sign only some packages, .... Action Items, by person ----------------------- * mmaslano * mmaslano will investigate with msuchy if it can be signed outside of COPR, why it takes 4 months, how to sign only some packages, .... * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * mmaslano (71) * abadger1999 (68) * tjanez (65) * hhorak (25) * zodbot (5) * pkovar1 (4) * drieden (4) * tflink (3) * pingou (1) * bkabrda (0) * samkottler (0) * juhp (0) * pkovar (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Fedora Server WG Meeting Minutes (2014-03-11)
by Stephen Gallagher 11 Mar '14

11 Mar '14

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 =================================================================== #fedora-meeting-1: Server Working Group Weekly Meeting (2014-03-11) =================================================================== Meeting started by sgallagh at 15:02:08 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2014-03-11/fedora-meeting… . Meeting summary - --------------- * roll call (sgallagh, 15:02:18) * Firewall (sgallagh, 15:07:05) * AGREED: If the user hasn't specified firewall status explicitly, interactive role deployment will inform the user whether the service's ports have been opened by default" to either the 2nd or the 3rd paragraph of the Firewall section of the tech spec. It must be possible to query the API for the required state of the firewall to support the role, which can then be compared to the active firewalld state. (sgallagh, 15:23:59) * ACTION: sgallagh to update the Technical Specification with this phrasing (sgallagh, 15:24:12) * Implementation of Roles (sgallagh, 15:25:00) * For Fedora 21, we address upgrade compatibility through policy rather than enforcement. Any core piece of a Role is expected to coordinate with that Role before upgrading (the responsibility is on the package maintainer, not the Role owner). (sgallagh, 16:04:21) Meeting ended at 17:00:25 UTC. Action Items - ------------ * sgallagh to update the Technical Specification with this phrasing Action Items, by person - ----------------------- * sgallagh * sgallagh to update the Technical Specification with this phrasing * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) - --------------------------- * sgallagh (150) * mizmo (90) * simo (78) * adamw (77) * mitr (54) * nirik (32) * zodbot (8) * tuanta (7) * Evolution (0) * davidstrauss (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlMfQYYACgkQeiVVYja6o6PXqQCfTF6cYtsjd1jlLuBEtrGM94a6 WDEAn3o14CNRZx628DVk0TsjqPbm83pk =hShy -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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2014-03-10 - Fedora QA Meeting - minutes
by Adam Williamson 10 Mar '14

10 Mar '14

================================== #fedora-meeting: Fedora QA meeting ================================== Meeting started by adamw at 15:00:10 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-03-10/fedora-qa.2014-0… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll call (adamw, 15:00:14) * previous meeting follow-up (adamw, 15:05:06) * roshi is a charlatan (adamw, 15:05:41) * "adamw and cmurf and anyone else interested to keep watching and driving the product WG discussions on filesystems" - that one was just a sort of watching brief, more solid info coming up (adamw, 15:06:07) * "adamw to ask fesco to consider KDE release blocking status" - I've done that, https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1243 - FESCo punted for now but will discuss it when appropriate (adamw, 15:07:02) * "adamw to propose disabling of autokarma on depcheck fail (to FESCo) as a stopgap till more reliable depcheck with taskotron" - I did that, https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1242 , and the proposal was accepted, just need lmacken and tflink to do it now :) (adamw, 15:07:54) * KDE SIG will discuss a KDE Product at meeting tomorrow (adamw, 15:08:13) * kparal notes that the autokarma change may annoy some maintainers, we will keep an eye on feedback and taskotron readiness and stand ready to try and make adjustments if it seems necessary (adamw, 15:10:58) * Fedora.next plans (adamw, 15:13:31) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Workstation/Technical_Specification (adamw, 15:13:58) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Server/Technical_Specification (adamw, 15:14:00) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Plasma_Product/Technical_Specification (Martix, 15:14:49) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1178#comment:31 (jreznik, 15:17:57) * ACTION: adamw to come up with another new draft storage test matrix based on new-new storage UI (no filesystem dropdown) and product filesystem choices (adamw, 15:29:51) * Open floor (adamw, 15:50:27) * jreznik points out a draft F21 schedule he'd like comments on: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1178#comment:31 (adamw, 15:51:04) * adamw, cmurf and handsome_pirate thought the schedule looked good - plenty of time before Alpha, but still a decent Alpha->Beta gap (adamw, 15:57:23) Meeting ended at 16:00:12 UTC. Action Items ------------ * adamw to come up with another new draft storage test matrix based on new-new storage UI (no filesystem dropdown) and product filesystem choices Action Items, by person ----------------------- * adamw * adamw to come up with another new draft storage test matrix based on new-new storage UI (no filesystem dropdown) and product filesystem choices * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * adamw (94) * cmurf (27) * kparal (16) * jreznik (15) * tflink (10) * Martix (10) * roshi (10) * zodbot (4) * satellit (3) * danofsatx-work (2) * handsome_pirate (2) * sgallagh (1) * brunowolff (1) * mkrizek (1) * pwhalen (1) * pschindl (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net

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FAmSCo meeting minutes 2014-03-10
by Jiri Eischmann 10 Mar '14

10 Mar '14

Hi, we had another FAmSCo meeting tonight. 6/7 members attended. We discussed three topics: * chair for F21 term: Jiri Eischmann will stay as the chair and Truong Anh. Tuan is a new vice chair. * meeting time: new meeting time is Tuesday 16:00 UTC. * "inactive ambassadors" issue: we think we've found a non-invasive solution to this problem, will work on details, and propose it to broader discussion. You can find more in the minutes: Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2014-03-10/famsco.2014-03… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2014-03-10/famsco.2014-03… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2014-03-10/famsco.2014-03… The next meeting will be on March 18th. Jiri

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