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#fedora-meeting-1: RELENG (2014-08-25)
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Meeting started by dgilmore at 15:36:13 UTC. The full logs are available
at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2014-08-25/releng.2014-08…
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Meeting summary
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* init process (dgilmore, 15:36:41)
* #5931 [Proposal] Move new branch and unretire requests to pkgdb2
(dgilmore, 15:37:47)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5931 (dgilmore,
15:37:57)
* < pingou> I have been working on a fedmsg-pkgdb2branch that would
take pkgdb2 fedmsg messages and call pkgdb2branch on pkgs01 (tyll,
15:41:41)
* < pingou> the idea is then to provide a CLI to interact with
pkgdb2's AdminAction, and close bugzilla tickets (tyll, 15:41:51)
* < pingou> so I think on the pkgdb2 side it's ready (tyll, 15:42:35)
* add daily cron script as fallback for missed fedmsg messages (tyll,
15:46:42)
* < nirik> I'm hoping to work on ansible migration for pkgs01.stg this
week. (tyll, 15:47:02)
* #5959 Enable keep-alive connections for koji (primary and secondaries)
(dgilmore, 15:50:45)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5959 (dgilmore,
15:50:57)
* deferred due to public holidy in the UK (dgilmore, 15:52:05)
* #5870 rawhide signing (dgilmore, 15:52:10)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5870 (dgilmore,
15:52:17)
* sigul breaks regularly, dgilmore and nirik will find additional
admins that can restart it when they are not available (tyll,
15:57:36)
* LINK:
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/mash/branched-20140825/logs/mash.log
(nirik, 15:59:11)
* #5914 Move fedmsg based blocking service to Fedora Infrastructure
(dgilmore, 16:13:41)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5914 (dgilmore,
16:13:46)
* Secondary Architectures updates (dgilmore, 16:15:17)
* Secondary Architectures update - ppc (dgilmore, 16:15:18)
* ACTION: dgilmore to open ticket with FESCo on how we should handle
32 bit ppc (dgilmore, 16:26:37)
* Secondary Architectures update - s390 (dgilmore, 16:30:10)
* Secondary Architectures update - arm (dgilmore, 16:36:12)
* Open Floor (dgilmore, 16:37:58)
* fesco ticket for 32 bit ppc
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1336 (dgilmore, 16:41:29)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Compose_Database (bochecha,
17:14:02)
Meeting ended at 17:14:24 UTC.
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* dgilmore to open ticket with FESCo on how we should handle 32 bit ppc
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* dgilmore to open ticket with FESCo on how we should handle 32 bit
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* sharkcz (43)
* nirik (37)
* bochecha (31)
* pingou (21)
* tyll (20)
* masta (15)
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#fedora-meeting: Cloud WG
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Meeting started by agrimm at 17:03:09 UTC. The full logs are available
at
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Meeting summary
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* roll call (agrimm, 17:05:36)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/65 (agrimm, 17:22:16)
* "Coordinate F21 / fedora next website" (dustymabe, 17:33:42)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/36 (dustymabe,
17:34:26)
Meeting ended at 17:37:27 UTC.
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* dustymabe (18)
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Thanks to Lennart for joining our meeting today. We really only covered
the subpackage config topic today and Lennart gave a very detailed and
long explanation of the systemd and /etc handling with some ideas and
outlooks for the future and we discussed some of the specifics where needed.
Vaclav will be putting together a more detailed and summarized email
early next week to Fedora development to kick off a public discussion
around some of the ideas we discussed and talked about today.
The other topics unfortunately had to be postponed to next week's
meeting now as we kinda ran out of time.
Thanks & regards, Phil
Minutes:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-08-22/fedora_base_desi…
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#fedora-meeting: Infrastructure (2014-08-21)
============================================
Meeting started by nirik at 18:00:04 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-08-21/infrastructure.2…
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Meeting summary
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* aloha (nirik, 18:00:05)
* New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks (nirik, 18:02:05)
* LINK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCXCgsmQuSY&feature=youtu.be
(nirik, 18:06:04)
* Applications status / discussion (nirik, 18:09:04)
* new pkgdb2 release in production this week. (nirik, 18:09:28)
* critpath lists are now working again. (nirik, 18:09:50)
* infrastructure jenkins is updated to the latest plugins, etc.
(nirik, 18:10:22)
* taskotron in stg/dev is going along fine, probibly won't be in
production until after alpha now. (nirik, 18:10:46)
* we're almost at 10 million fedmsg messages all time (threebean,
18:11:32)
* LINK: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/datagrepper/ (threebean,
18:11:36)
* GlitterGallery release process planned to be started within this
week (banas, 18:11:56)
* LINK: http://piratepad.net/FMN-opt-out (threebean, 18:12:15)
* LINK: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=7435960 <--
the screenshot is horrifying (pjones, 18:23:03)
* Sysadmin status / discussion (nirik, 18:24:00)
* retrace servers have been handed off to retrace folks. They are
setting things up on them now. (nirik, 18:24:22)
* memcached is now setup to restart on exit and also is monitored in
nagios (nirik, 18:30:11)
* staging and prod are now once again blocked from talking to each
other via firewall rules. (nirik, 18:30:35)
* nagios/alerts recap (nirik, 18:31:28)
* Upcoming Tasks/Items (nirik, 18:35:00)
* LINK: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/infrastructure/
(nirik, 18:35:00)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_MirrorManager2_FAS3_2014
(nirik, 18:36:45)
* Open Floor (nirik, 18:40:23)
Meeting ended at 18:44:41 UTC.
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
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* nirik (81)
* threebean (19)
* lmacken (12)
* pjones (8)
* zodbot (7)
* adimania (6)
* mpduty (5)
* sart (5)
* banas (4)
* lanica (3)
* lbazan (1)
* puiterwijk (1)
* bochecha (1)
* relrod (1)
* mirek-hm (1)
* abadger1999 (0)
* smooge (0)
* mdomsch (0)
* pingou (0)
* dgilmore (0)
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18:00:04 <nirik> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2014-08-21)
18:00:04 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Aug 21 18:00:04 2014 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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18:00:05 <nirik> #meetingname infrastructure
18:00:05 <nirik> #topic aloha
18:00:05 <nirik> #chair smooge relrod nirik abadger1999 lmacken dgilmore mdomsch threebean pingou puiterwijk
18:00:05 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure'
18:00:05 <zodbot> Current chairs: abadger1999 dgilmore lmacken mdomsch nirik pingou puiterwijk relrod smooge threebean
18:00:10 * threebean is here
18:00:14 * puiterwijk is arround
18:00:20 * relrod here
18:00:25 <mpduty> is here
18:00:29 * banas is here as well
18:00:44 * bochecha is here
18:01:04 * lmacken
18:01:19 * adimania is here
18:01:51 * lanica is here for the infra meeting.
18:02:02 <nirik> hello everyone. ;) lets go ahead and get started...
18:02:05 <nirik> #topic New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks
18:02:14 <nirik> any new folks? or apprentices with questions/comments/ideas?
18:03:08 <mpduty> can there be an IRC class on ansible?
18:03:15 <banas> I can't remember if this is the slot I'm supposed to update - but work on GG is going good, as per schedule :)
18:03:17 <sart> is here in an un-italicized fashion
18:03:43 <nirik> mpduty: we had one a while back, we could do another if there's interest, sure. ;)
18:04:49 <banas> we had to skip two gg meetings because I was at Flock, and now the whole team is sick, so we just decided to do it next week.
18:04:52 <mpduty> nirik, well I don't know but some newcomers would be able to learn things faster I feel
18:05:08 <mpduty> including myself
18:05:20 * mirek-hm is late, but here
18:05:26 <nirik> mpduty: sure, we could ask on the list if folks are interested. I'm happy to do some intro one. We also had a nice intro at flock that was recorded... ;)
18:05:29 <sart> <-- long-time newcomer
18:05:35 * adimania thinks that it might be helpful to everyone
18:06:04 <nirik> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCXCgsmQuSY&feature=youtu.be
18:06:18 * lbazan here
18:06:25 <mpduty> thanks I shall go through that
18:06:33 <nirik> welcome sart. ;)
18:07:06 <sart> thanks and ty for the intro vid
18:08:11 <nirik> ok, any other new folks or questions?
18:08:31 * pjones waves hello
18:08:48 <nirik> hey pjones. :)
18:09:04 <nirik> #topic Applications status / discussion
18:09:18 <nirik> pingou wasn't able to make it but had a few things for me to pass on:
18:09:28 <nirik> #info new pkgdb2 release in production this week.
18:09:50 <nirik> #info critpath lists are now working again.
18:10:22 <nirik> #info infrastructure jenkins is updated to the latest plugins, etc.
18:10:29 <nirik> also, tflink wanted to share:
18:10:46 <nirik> #info taskotron in stg/dev is going along fine, probibly won't be in production until after alpha now.
18:11:06 <nirik> any other applications news?
18:11:32 <threebean> #info we're almost at 10 million fedmsg messages all time
18:11:36 <threebean> https://apps.fedoraproject.org/datagrepper/
18:11:38 <threebean> :P
18:11:56 <banas> #info GlitterGallery release process planned to be started within this week
18:12:09 <nirik> threebean: nice. :)
18:12:13 <threebean> also, we started a scratch pad for discussing promoting FMN from an opt-in service to an opt-out service (for packagers)
18:12:15 <threebean> http://piratepad.net/FMN-opt-out
18:12:20 <lmacken> threebean: woot!
18:12:47 <lmacken> threebean: 10mil & 1TiB+ of traffic? :)
18:12:50 <nirik> do we need bodhi2 in place?
18:13:07 <threebean> optimizations pushed out last friday seem to have FMN keeping it's workload under control.
18:13:11 <threebean> .tiny https://admin.fedoraproject.org/collectd/bin/graph.cgi?hostname=notifs-back…
18:13:12 <zodbot> threebean: http://tinyurl.com/le9xywt
18:13:35 <pjones> threebean: and *very* few of those are me trying to game badges
18:13:44 <threebean> pjones: almost none
18:13:58 <threebean> ;)
18:14:35 <lmacken> threebean: didn't the optimizations DoS FAS though?
18:15:22 <threebean> they did :/ (although only once at startup)
18:15:28 <nirik> we have been seeing fas servers complain the last few days...
18:15:36 <nirik> but I haven't had a chance to look at what might be causing it.
18:15:57 <threebean> many threads all trying to cache fas at the same time - fixed in git http://da.gd/BW60H
18:16:21 <threebean> nirik: I think only some of those are related to fmn, which should only be doing this at startup.
18:16:39 <threebean> I'd think the fas problems would have gone down due to the fedmsg-fasclient stuff pingou pushed out.. :/
18:16:54 <nirik> yeah. theres a lot less runs of that for sure.
18:17:06 <nirik> but something is still causing them to start swapping.
18:17:14 <nirik> more investigation needed
18:18:39 <nirik> we have also seen recently openvpn hitting cpu limits.
18:18:45 <nirik> might be related, not sure.
18:19:02 <lmacken> nirik: were you thinking that was related to outbound email?
18:19:18 <nirik> thought so at first, but I was looking at the wrong thing. ;)
18:19:20 <lmacken> i've been seeing a lot more fedmsg error spam, along with the usual batch of fedora-packages 200k mails :P
18:19:23 <lmacken> oh, okay.
18:19:36 <nirik> If you sniff the traffic on the openvpn tun device you only see traffic going to the node you are on.
18:19:50 <nirik> if you sniff the eth device you see all the vpn streams, etc.
18:20:05 <nirik> it looked last night like proxy02 was pushing a lot more than the others, but that might have just been at that time
18:20:33 <nirik> I'll keep trying to isolate it.
18:21:16 <nirik> Any other application news? :)
18:21:21 <lmacken> when do we freeze?
18:21:31 * threebean forgot about freeze
18:22:14 <nirik> when we have a viable test compose. ;)
18:22:16 <pjones> some time after dgilmore winds up having working trees for all the stuff.
18:22:23 <pjones> which is... taking a while.
18:22:24 <nirik> yeah... hopefully soon.
18:22:32 <nirik> so many bugs.
18:22:56 <pjones> nirik: looks like createImage is still busting on cloud-atomic?
18:23:03 <pjones> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=7435960 <-- the screenshot is horrifying
18:23:11 <nirik> pjones: yeah, boggling. ;(
18:23:20 <pjones> but now I'm just interrupting
18:23:46 <nirik> we all like a good horror sideshow. ;)
18:24:00 <nirik> #topic Sysadmin status / discussion
18:24:06 <nirik> so, on the sysadmin side of things...
18:24:22 <nirik> #info retrace servers have been handed off to retrace folks. They are setting things up on them now.
18:24:32 <nirik> thanks to smooge for getting those all installed.
18:25:14 <nirik> There's the openvpn and fas hiccups we have been seeing, but we already mentioned those.
18:25:25 <lmacken> pjones: if only that used chained exceptions in py3, that screenshot might be a bit more useful :\
18:25:34 <nirik> We still have qa09 and virthost-comm03 to setup as new machines.
18:25:50 <pjones> lmacken: Eh, I think it's just saying the image the python loaded from is corrupt. I doubt the exception is meaningful at all.
18:26:03 <lmacken> pjones: yeah, looks like an exception in the exception handler :\
18:27:37 <nirik> there's also a bit of discussion ongoing about netapp space (since we are getting very dangerously full on our koji storage)
18:27:47 <nirik> hopefully there will be some good news there sometime soon.
18:27:58 <threebean> hm, turns out that our staging and production environments weren't firewalled off from one another anymore after the switch to ansible. that's fixed up now.
18:28:23 <nirik> oh yeah, thanks much for fixing that.
18:28:39 <threebean> np. things might behave funny while it shakes out.
18:28:50 <nirik> I've so far not seen any fallout from that...
18:28:56 <nirik> but that doesn't mean we won't hit some
18:30:11 <nirik> #info memcached is now setup to restart on exit and also is monitored in nagios
18:30:35 <nirik> #info staging and prod are now once again blocked from talking to each other via firewall rules.
18:31:28 <nirik> #topic nagios/alerts recap
18:31:33 <nirik> this should be fun this week...
18:31:37 * nirik digs up link
18:32:11 <nirik> .tiny https://admin.fedoraproject.org/nagios/cgi-bin//summary.cgi?alerttypes=3&di…
18:32:11 <zodbot> nirik: http://tinyurl.com/ms5u5qm
18:32:17 <nirik> I think thats right.
18:32:59 <nirik> no, not right.
18:33:30 <nirik> .tiny https://admin.fedoraproject.org/nagios/cgi-bin//summary.cgi?report=1&displa…
18:33:31 <zodbot> nirik: http://tinyurl.com/koaopnc
18:34:03 <nirik> almost all of those are due to the vpn issue.
18:34:15 <nirik> the server hits 100% cpu and starts dropping packets.
18:35:00 <nirik> #topic Upcoming Tasks/Items
18:35:00 <nirik> https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/list/infrastructure/
18:35:12 <nirik> anything upcoming folks would like to schedule or note?
18:35:18 <nirik> the freeze is hopefully coming up soon.
18:36:19 <nirik> Also, we are in the early planning stages for another FAD in december...
18:36:45 <nirik> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_MirrorManager2_FAS3_2014
18:36:54 <adimania> would remote participation be possible?
18:36:59 <nirik> absolutely.
18:37:41 <adimania> cool. Flying is very expensive in my part of the world :(
18:37:42 <nirik> it's very subject to change right now, just sounding out if it will be possible and useful.
18:37:56 <threebean> just to note: i'm on some on-again, off-again vacation for the next two weeks. (I'll be around on tuesdays and thursdays)
18:38:10 <lmacken> yeah, there's a good chance that I won't be in Denver during that time
18:38:18 <nirik> threebean: cool.
18:38:24 <sart> I'm definitely interested if I'm not at work (or possibly if so but work is completely dead, which it may be that time of year... )
18:38:29 <lmacken> so a backup location is definitely needed
18:38:29 <nirik> lmacken: fun. :) So, we might want to pick another place or time
18:39:10 <nirik> yeah, we will come up with something. ;)
18:39:44 <nirik> Oh, I should mention that I am likely going to be traveling the latter part of september...
18:40:23 <nirik> #topic Open Floor
18:40:38 <nirik> anyone have anything for open floor? comments, suggestions, ideas, favorate cookies?
18:41:47 <lanica> mmm�cookies.
18:42:10 * adimania eats
18:42:16 <threebean> encrypted browser cookies?
18:42:16 * adimania nom nom nom
18:42:28 <nirik> chocolate chip. ;) Or molassass sugar. nom.
18:42:39 <sart> oatmeal butterscotch
18:43:46 <nirik> alrighty. If nothing else will close out in a minute... (to go find cookies)
18:44:11 <lanica> Good meeting�later all!
18:44:39 <nirik> Thanks for coming everyone. Lets all continue in #fedora-admin, #fedora-apps and #fedora-noc.
18:44:41 <nirik> #endmeeting
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#fedora-meeting-1: fpc
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Meeting started by geppetto at 16:02:20 UTC. The full logs are available
at
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (geppetto, 16:02:20)
* Open Floor (geppetto, 16:16:09)
Meeting ended at 16:56:53 UTC.
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* geppetto (29)
* RemiFedora (26)
* limburgher (24)
* langdon (12)
* racor (7)
* zodbot (6)
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* Rathann (5)
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#fedora-meeting-1: fpc
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Meeting started by abadger1999 at 15:58:56 UTC. The full logs are
available at
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Please note -- The full logs may be very informative this week, there was a
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faster.
Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (abadger1999, 15:59:06)
* Open Floor (abadger1999, 16:12:04)
* Update to untouchable directories (abadger1999, 16:17:27)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/451 (abadger1999,
16:17:28)
* Update to untouchable directories section APPROVED: (+1:5, 0:0,
-1:0) (abadger1999, 16:23:30)
* Crypto policies packaging guideline (abadger1999, 16:24:08)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/452 (abadger1999,
16:24:11)
* Open floor (abadger1999, 16:39:04)
Meeting ended at 16:43:19 UTC.
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