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#fedora-meeting: Infrastructure (2015-08-20)
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Meeting started by nirik at 18:00:05 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2015-08-20/infrastructure.2…
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Meeting summary
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* aloha (nirik, 18:00:05)
* New folks introductions / Apprentice feedback (nirik, 18:00:06)
* GSoC student update - kushal (nirik, 18:05:37)
* announcements and information (nirik, 18:10:18)
* Lots of discussion and such from flock, see list for items - kevin
(nirik, 18:10:18)
* Collapsed 16 lines in all our playbooks down to 1 include - kevin
(nirik, 18:10:19)
* Builders all updated and rebooted - kevin/dennis (nirik, 18:10:19)
* new batcave01 instance setup, will take the place of lockbox01
sometime - kevin (nirik, 18:10:19)
* lists.fedorahosted.org migration now friday - kevin/abompard
(nirik, 18:10:21)
* new apprentice 'quests' for new folks to get started easier - kevin
(nirik, 18:10:23)
* taskotron and blockerbugs were adjusted to mostly work with bodhi2,
some fixes still pending but expectin g them soon - tflink (nirik,
18:10:25)
* trying to figure out ipv6 drops at sites. May be due to fuzzy routes
and 'timeouts' of them. Trying to determine fix. - smooge (nirik,
18:10:28)
* Bodhi2 deployed yesterday(!) Lots of bugs in the queue to fix. -
lmacken and threebean (nirik, 18:10:31)
* LINK: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/ (nirik, 18:10:33)
* new apprentice quests list - kevin (nirik, 18:12:06)
* LINK:
http://infrastructure.fedoraproject.org/cgit/ansible.git/tree/inventory/gro…
(nirik, 18:15:46)
* fas3 plans - kevin/smootherfrogz (nirik, 18:23:03)
* Open Floor (nirik, 18:25:43)
* LINK:
https://apps.fedoraproject.org/datagrepper/charts/line?user=lmacken&user=ra…
(decause, 18:29:26)
Meeting ended at 18:33:22 UTC.
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
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#fedora-blocker-review: F23-blocker-review
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Meeting started by adamw at 16:05:49 UTC. The full logs are available at
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (adamw, 16:05:49)
* Introduction (adamw, 16:08:38)
* Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have
bugs. (adamw, 16:08:38)
* We'll be following the process outlined at: (adamw, 16:08:38)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
(adamw, 16:08:40)
* The bugs up for review today are available at: (adamw, 16:08:40)
* LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (adamw,
16:08:44)
* The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (adamw,
16:08:44)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_23_Alpha_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:08:46)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_23_Beta_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:08:48)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_23_Final_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:08:50)
* 6 Proposed Blockers (adamw, 16:10:15)
* 6 Accepted Blockers (adamw, 16:10:15)
* 4 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:10:15)
* 0 Accepted Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:10:17)
* (1245423) TypeError: nothing connected to
functools.partial(<pyanaconda.ui.gui.utils.timed_action.<locals>.TimedAction
object (adamw, 16:12:38)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1245423 (adamw,
16:12:39)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, MODIFIED (adamw, 16:12:39)
* AGREED: 1245423 - AcceptedBlocker Beta - clear violation of "When
using the guided partitioning flow, the installer must be able to:
... Remove existing storage volumes to free up space, at the user's
direction" (adamw, 16:19:42)
* (1225957) Regression: GFileMonitor doesn't react to "mv some-file
watched-file" (adamw, 16:19:50)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1225957 (adamw,
16:19:50)
* Proposed Blocker, glib2, NEW (adamw, 16:19:50)
* AGREED: 1225957 - AcceptedBlocker Beta - clear violation of "after
system installation the Cockpit web management interface must be
running and accessible on its default port (9090)" (adamw,
16:24:54)
* (1249304) UnboundLocalError: local variable 'e' referenced before
assignment (adamw, 16:25:08)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1249304 (adamw,
16:25:08)
* Proposed Blocker, python-blivet, ON_QA (adamw, 16:25:08)
* AGREED: 1249304 - defer decision - it's unclear how serious or how
commonly encountered this bug is, and a fix is already pending, so
we'll hope to see it gone by next meeting (adamw, 16:34:14)
* (1252052) blivet.errors.DeviceError: ('cannot replace active format',
'fedora_dhcp45-root') (adamw, 16:34:21)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1252052 (adamw,
16:34:21)
* Proposed Blocker, python-blivet, MODIFIED (adamw, 16:34:21)
* AGREED: 1252052 - AcceptedBlocker Beta - clear violation of "When
using the guided partitioning flow, the installer must be able to:
... Remove existing storage volumes to free up space, at the user's
direction" (adamw, 16:39:22)
* (1253787) AttributeError: 'int' object has no attribute 'convertTo'
(adamw, 16:39:31)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1253787 (adamw,
16:39:31)
* Proposed Blocker, python-blivet, MODIFIED (adamw, 16:39:31)
* AGREED: 1253787 - AcceptedBlocker Beta - clear violation of "When
using the custom partitioning flow, the installer must be able to:
... Create mount points backed by ext4 partitions, LVM volumes or
btrfs volumes, or software RAID arrays at RAID levels 0, 1 and 5
containing ext4 partitions." (adamw, 16:44:57)
* (1250942) clicking on buttons on error pop-up doesn't work (adamw,
16:45:04)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1250942 (adamw,
16:45:05)
* Proposed Blocker, python-meh, NEW (adamw, 16:45:05)
* AGREED: 1250942 RejectedBlocker AcceptedFreezeException Beta - as
things stand our call is that this is probably not quite common
enough to block (it's a conditional criterion violation, so it's a
judgment call). We may revise this later if it turns out to be more
common than we thought (adamw, 16:59:44)
* (1252756) repository definition nor product branding works with nfsiso
(roshi, 17:04:50)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1252756 (roshi,
17:04:53)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (roshi, 17:04:55)
* AGREED: - 1252756 - AcceptedBlocker Final - This bug is a clear
violation of the following Final criteria: "The installer must be
able to use all supported local and remote package and installer
sources." (roshi, 17:13:16)
* (1252902) inst.repo=hd: is not working (roshi, 17:13:33)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1252902 (roshi,
17:13:34)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, POST (roshi, 17:13:34)
* AGREED: - 1252902 - AcceptedBlocker Final - This bug is a clear
violation of the following Final criteria: "The installer must be
able to use all supported local and remote package and installer
sources." (roshi, 17:16:03)
* (1254687) DNF does not display any translations (roshi, 17:16:07)
* Proposed Blocker, dnf, POST (roshi, 17:16:07)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1254687 (roshi,
17:16:10)
* AGREED: - 1254687 - AcceptedBlocker Final - This bug is a clear
violation of the following Final criteria: "All critical path
actions on release-blocking desktops must correctly display all
sufficiently complete translations available for use." (roshi,
17:19:14)
* (1250414) media check fails on DVD/netinst - "configured resource
limit was exceeded" (roshi, 17:19:18)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1250414 (roshi,
17:19:21)
* Proposed Blocker, dracut, ON_QA (roshi, 17:19:23)
* AGREED: - 1250414 - AcceptedBlocker Final - This is a clear
violation of the following Final criterion: "Validation of install
media must work correctly for all release-blocking images." (roshi,
17:22:57)
* (1236034) many fonts missing in fontconfig cache after installation,
forced refresh needed (roshi, 17:23:10)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1236034 (roshi,
17:23:13)
* Proposed Blocker, fontconfig, VERIFIED (roshi, 17:23:15)
* (1249336) [abrt] setroubleshoot-server:
util.py:291:<module>:ImportError: No module named sepolicy (roshi,
17:24:06)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1249336 (roshi,
17:24:10)
* Proposed Blocker, setroubleshoot, MODIFIED (roshi, 17:24:12)
* (1236034) many fonts missing in fontconfig cache after installation,
forced refresh needed (roshi, 17:25:59)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1236034 (roshi,
17:26:02)
* Proposed Blocker, fontconfig, VERIFIED (roshi, 17:26:04)
* AGREED: - 1236034 - AcceptedBlocker Final - This is a clear
violation of the following Final criterion: "All applications that
can be launched using the standard graphical mechanism of a
release-blocking desktop after a default installation of that
desktop must start successfully and withstand a basic functionality
test." (roshi, 17:29:02)
* (1249336) [abrt] setroubleshoot-server:
util.py:291:<module>:ImportError: No module named sepolicy (roshi,
17:29:09)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1249336 (roshi,
17:29:12)
* Proposed Blocker, setroubleshoot, MODIFIED (roshi, 17:29:15)
* AGREED: - 1249336 - AcceptedBlocker Final - This bug is a clear
violation of the following Final criterion: "All applications that
can be launched using the standard graphical mechanism of a
release-blocking desktop after a default installation of that
desktop must start successfully and withstand a basic functionality
test." (roshi, 17:33:42)
* (1240802) Can't unlock an encrypted root partition using caps lock key
(roshi, 17:33:52)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1240802 (roshi,
17:33:55)
* Proposed Blocker, systemd, NEW (roshi, 17:33:57)
* AGREED: - 1240802 - RejectedBlocker Final - While this bug is very
odd and annoying, the workaround is easy and doesn't seem to happen
enough to warrant blocking the release for it. (roshi, 17:41:45)
* (1250737) systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service fails on 23 Alpha RC1 Server
(roshi, 17:41:57)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1250737 (roshi,
17:42:00)
* Proposed Blocker, systemd, POST (roshi, 17:42:03)
* AGREED: - 1250737 - AcceptedBlocker Final - This is a clear
violation of the following Final criterion: "All system services
present after installation with one of the release-blocking package
sets must start properly, unless they require hardware which is not
present." We would prefer an actual fix to merely relabeling this
error as a warning. (roshi, 17:48:52)
* (1254658) systemctl seems not to be translated at all (roshi,
17:49:05)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1254658 (roshi,
17:49:05)
* Proposed Blocker, systemd, NEW (roshi, 17:49:05)
* AGREED: - 1254658 - RejectedBlocker Final - While it would be great
to have translations for this, none currently exist upstream so this
doesn't actually violate the criterion. (roshi, 17:56:44)
* (1199252) default html mime configuration (roshi, 17:56:56)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1199252 (roshi,
17:56:56)
* Proposed Blocker, xfce4-session, ASSIGNED (roshi, 17:56:56)
* AGREED: - 1199252 - AcceptedBlocker Final - As Xfce is the desktop
environment for arm this violates the following Final criterion:
"Each application in the default system menu layout should launch
without crashing and withstand basic usage. Bugs should be filed in
any case where this does not happen" (roshi, 18:09:47)
* Open Floor (roshi, 18:11:13)
Meeting ended at 18:13:47 UTC.
Action Items
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Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* roshi (154)
* sgallagh (92)
* pschindl (27)
* danofsatx (21)
* garretraziel (17)
* pwhalen (10)
* kparal (9)
* zodbot (7)
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#fedora-meeting-2: Env and Stacks (2015-08-20)
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Meeting started by hhorak at 17:00:55 UTC. The full logs are available
at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2015-08-20/env-and-stacks…
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Meeting summary
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* greetings.. (hhorak, 17:01:10)
* how to invite the conversation to e&s (hhorak, 17:03:11)
* it is a matter of outreach, there are a number of "stack-like"
technologies being pursued in the Edition Working Groups; we want to
avoid duplicated/conflicting effort. (hhorak, 17:07:34)
* The general consensus in the room on Flock was that E&S should help
define some of the boundaries of the rings, and possibly come up
with a better name than rings since it breaks down at higher levels
(hhorak, 17:09:04)
* But E&S shouldn't dictate the details of each ring- those should be
forwarded on to more appropriate WG's (hhorak, 17:09:22)
* e&s should recommend available technologies for "implementing rings"
which base would then include (probably) in r0 & r1.. available to
all the editions and higher rings (hhorak, 17:10:10)
* this is all about creating policies in which development communities
can find the natural fit; various groups involved in xdg-app,
docker, rolekit, nulecule, etc may move the discussions to e&s since
the interaction between those policy groups is where E&S seems to
fit in (hhorak, 17:16:39)
* ACTION: hhorak to send agenda item for tomorrow's base meeting about
owning r0/1 with guidelines from e&s (hhorak, 17:46:41)
* we can think about which tool to track the rings and fedora stuff
later, but short-term, wiki should be fine enough (hhorak,
17:59:11)
Meeting ended at 18:00:30 UTC.
Action Items
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* hhorak to send agenda item for tomorrow's base meeting about owning
r0/1 with guidelines from e&s
Action Items, by person
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* hhorak
* hhorak to send agenda item for tomorrow's base meeting about owning
r0/1 with guidelines from e&s
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
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* langdon (48)
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#fedora-meeting-1: fpc
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Meeting started by geppetto at 16:00:22 UTC. The full logs are available
at
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (geppetto, 16:00:22)
* Schedule (geppetto, 16:03:09)
* LINK:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/packaging/2015-August/010939.html
(geppetto, 16:03:14)
* #555 Copylib bundling request: kwsys in castxml (geppetto, 16:04:14)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/555 (geppetto, 16:04:23)
* LINK: https://github.com/CastXML/CastXML/tree/master/src/kwsys
(geppetto, 16:25:16)
* LINK:
http://public.kitware.com/pipermail/cmake-developers/2015-August/026040.html
(mathstuf, 16:37:28)
* LINK: http://public.kitware.com/gitweb?p=KWSys.git (Rathann,
17:01:29)
* ACTION: Allow 2 year tmp. exception for castxml after modularized
provides are added, and rm of unused modules happens at prep or
before ideally upstreeam git (+1:5, 0:0, -1:0) (geppetto, 17:08:16)
* #558 Switch order of install macros (geppetto, 17:09:27)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/558 (geppetto, 17:09:28)
* #559 Ban use of rich dependencies (geppetto, 17:21:15)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/559 (geppetto, 17:21:16)
* ACTION: Ban use of rich dependencies (+1:5, 0:0, -1:0) (geppetto,
17:32:29)
* Open Floor (geppetto, 17:32:35)
Meeting ended at 17:39:04 UTC.
Action Items
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* Allow 2 year tmp. exception for castxml after modularized provides are
added, and rm of unused modules happens at prep or before ideally
upstreeam git (+1:5, 0:0, -1:0)
* Ban use of rich dependencies (+1:5, 0:0, -1:0)
Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* Allow 2 year tmp. exception for castxml after modularized provides
are added, and rm of unused modules happens at prep or before
ideally upstreeam git (+1:5, 0:0, -1:0)
* Ban use of rich dependencies (+1:5, 0:0, -1:0)
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* mathstuf (59)
* Rathann (37)
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