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#fedora-meeting-1: Fedora-fr
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Meeting started by Renault at 18:31:26 UTC. The full logs are available
at
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Meeting summary
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* Association Borsalinux-fr (Renault, 18:32:20)
* Fedora-Fr.org (Renault, 18:33:06)
* Marketing (Renault, 18:34:53)
* Traduction (Renault, 18:37:19)
* Projet Fedora (Renault, 18:38:25)
* Premier samedi à la Cité des Sciences (Renault, 18:40:23)
* Discussions libre (Renault, 18:47:59)
Meeting ended at 18:53:25 UTC.
Action Items
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#fedora-blocker-review: F25-blocker-review
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Meeting started by adamw at 16:04:59 UTC. The full logs are available at
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (adamw, 16:04:59)
* coremodule will secretarialize (adamw, 16:06:29)
* Introduction (adamw, 16:15:00)
* Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have
bugs. (adamw, 16:15:01)
* We'll be following the process outlined at: (adamw, 16:15:01)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
(adamw, 16:15:02)
* The bugs up for review today are available at: (adamw, 16:15:02)
* LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (adamw,
16:15:04)
* The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (adamw,
16:15:06)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_25_Alpha_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:15:08)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_25_Beta_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:15:10)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_25_Final_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:15:12)
* 1 Proposed Blockers (adamw, 16:16:42)
* 4 Accepted Blockers (adamw, 16:16:43)
* 2 Accepted Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:16:47)
* 6 Proposed Blockers (Final) (adamw, 16:17:03)
* (1378162) blivet.errors.DeviceFormatError: device path does not exist
or is not writable (adamw, 16:17:23)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1378162 (adamw,
16:17:23)
* Proposed Blocker, python-blivet, POST (adamw, 16:17:23)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1374973 lloks like
the one i have few week ago (tenk, 16:19:39)
* this bug is affecting Rawhide, not F25, proposal for F25 was
incorrect; will adjust the bug (adamw, 16:22:00)
* moving onto accepted Beta blockers (adamw, 16:26:10)
* (1369786) Autopart fails on installation from live usb created by
l-i-t-d (adamw, 16:30:11)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1369786 (adamw,
16:30:11)
* Accepted Blocker, anaconda, NEW (adamw, 16:30:11)
* ACTION: cmurf to get clean logs for
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1369786 (adamw,
16:30:20)
* (1374810) initial-setup fails - TypeError: unhashable type: 'list'
(adamw, 16:30:31)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1374810 (adamw,
16:30:32)
* Accepted Blocker, anaconda, ON_QA (adamw, 16:30:32)
* LINK: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2016-66457e9af1
(adamw, 16:31:51)
* anaconda update and initial-setup update are pending stable, we're
expecting this to be resolved when they go stable (adamw, 16:32:25)
* (1374864) initial-setup is not completable when there's no network
link (adamw, 16:33:04)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1374864 (adamw,
16:33:04)
* Accepted Blocker, initial-setup, NEW (adamw, 16:33:04)
* we will ask pbrobinson and dgilmore to re-test this with the newest
anaconda and initial-setup to see what the current status is,
mkolman will take it from there (adamw, 16:36:18)
* (1225184) anaconda does not detect RAID devices (adamw, 16:38:54)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1225184 (adamw,
16:38:55)
* Accepted Blocker, python-blivet, ASSIGNED (adamw, 16:38:55)
* moving onto proposed Final blockers (adamw, 16:48:27)
* (1375712) [abrt] anaconda: TypeError: __new__() takes 3 positional
arguments but 5 were given (adamw, 16:49:13)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1375712 (adamw,
16:49:14)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, ON_QA (adamw, 16:49:14)
* AGREED: 1375712 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - the affected lorax build
is currently pending stable for F25, so we're accepting this as a
blocker as we expect it will affect F25 with that lorax, and
violates "The installer must be able to detect (if possible) and
install to supported network-attached storage devices." (adamw,
16:55:27)
* (1378159) iSCSI install crashes with 'The name org.freedesktop.UDisks2
was not provided by any .service files' (adamw, 16:55:30)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1378159 (adamw,
16:55:30)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (adamw, 16:55:30)
* AGREED: 1378159 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - this is a clear
violation of "The installer must be able to detect (if possible) and
install to supported network-attached storage devices." (adamw,
17:01:52)
* (1366897) GNOME session doesn't wait for apps to cleanly exit (adamw,
17:02:13)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1366897 (adamw,
17:02:13)
* Proposed Blocker, gnome-session, NEW (adamw, 17:02:13)
* AGREED: 1366897 - RejectedBlocker (Final) - it's a close call on
this one, but even if it was accepted as a blocker the resolution
would be to document it on Common Bugs, which we're going to do
anyway, so the decision isn't super important; we went with -1
(adamw, 17:13:49)
* (1377741) maximized video is shifted in totem after gtk3 update
(adamw, 17:14:00)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1377741 (adamw,
17:14:00)
* Proposed Blocker, gtk3, NEW (adamw, 17:14:00)
* AGREED: 1377741 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - watching a fullscreen
video is considered to be 'basic functionality' of totem and so
violates "All applications that can be launched using the standard
graphical mechanism of a release-blocking desktop after a default
installation of that desktop must start successfully and withstand a
basic functionality test" (adamw, 17:18:31)
* (1377616) When the 'Select Live ISO' button is pressed the mediawriter
segfaults (adamw, 17:18:38)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1377616 (adamw,
17:18:38)
* Proposed Blocker, mediawriter, VERIFIED (adamw, 17:18:38)
* AGREED: 1377616 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - violates
"Release-blocking live and dedicated installer images must boot when
written to optical media of an appropriate size (if applicable) and
when written to a USB stick with any of the officially supported
methods" (as LUC/FMW is an 'officially supported method') (adamw,
17:24:05)
* (1372300) GDM does not use the keyboard layout which is selected
(adamw, 17:24:12)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1372300 (adamw,
17:24:12)
* Proposed Blocker, mutter, NEW (adamw, 17:24:12)
* AGREED: 1372300 - RejectedBlocker (Final) - as the bug currently
stands, this bug doesn't violate any criteria as it does not affect
a default or 'typical' install for any language, it is triggered by
post-install changes to the locale configuration, which the criteria
do not cover (adamw, 17:34:45)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/25/Schedule if we push
its thankgiving week so most likely the 29th (Southern_Gentlem,
17:41:59)
Meeting ended at 17:45:45 UTC.
Action Items
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* cmurf to get clean logs for
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1369786
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* cmurf
* cmurf to get clean logs for
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1369786
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* adamw (201)
* cmurf (95)
* kparal (27)
* Southern_Gentlem (26)
* coremodule (17)
* mkolman (16)
* satellit (11)
* zodbot (9)
* pschindl (8)
* tenk (7)
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#fedora-meeting: Fedora QA meeting
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Meeting started by adamw at 15:01:45 UTC. The full logs are available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2016-09-26/fedora-qa.2016-…
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Meeting summary
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* Roll call (adamw, 15:01:52)
* Previous meeting follow-up (adamw, 15:04:40)
* "sumantro to check testdays webapp is working ahead of test days
starting up" - pretty sure that got done, since we've run a Test Day
using the app since then :) (adamw, 15:06:04)
* "adamw to do something about a wayland test day" - not done yet,
still on my todo list (i'll do that first thing this week) (adamw,
15:06:26)
* ACTION: adamw to arrange a Wayland test day (adamw, 15:06:31)
* "sumantro to organize a test day for
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BetterSwitchableGraphicsSupport"
- we're not sure on the status of this and sumantro is not here
today, will re-list (adamw, 15:09:35)
* ACTION: sumantro to organize a test day for
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BetterSwitchableGraphicsSupport
(adamw, 15:09:42)
* "sumantro and a2batic to work on planning migration from trac" -
looks like a2batic sent an email on that topic this morning, so this
is moving along:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org/…
(adamw, 15:10:37)
* Fedora 25 Beta status (adamw, 15:13:31)
* ACTION: adamw to run firmware/hardware RAID tests (adamw, 15:18:54)
* https://www.happyassassin.net/testcase_stats/25 looks pretty good
but there's a few tests that haven't been run since Alpha: please
help out with covering those (adamw, 15:21:04)
* ACTION: coremodule to run Cloud tests (adamw, 15:22:48)
* freeze is in 16 hours from this meeting, go/no-go is in two weeks
(2016-10-07) (adamw, 15:24:42)
* Test Day status (adamw, 15:27:28)
* the Fedora Media Writer test day went ahead and we had great
attendance and test coverage, thanks everyone:
http://testdays.fedorainfracloud.org/events/9 (adamw, 15:28:50)
* the i18n Test Day will be on Wednesday 2016-09-28, please do come
along if you can help test non-English input etc. -
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2016-09-28_I18N_Test_Day
(adamw, 15:32:33)
* ACTION: adamw and sumantro to blog, mail, social media etc. i18n
Test Day (adamw, 15:32:55)
* ACTION: sumantro to send post-event report for FMW Test Day (adamw,
15:33:09)
* Wayland test day does not yet exist because adamw is bad and should
feel bad (adamw, 15:33:46)
* update of FMW during test period caused confusion, we should try to
avoid changes to test materials during test days as much as
possible, and message clearly when they're needed (adamw, 15:38:22)
* people are still missing the obvious possible improvements for the
testdays webapp (e.g. result editing) (adamw, 15:41:31)
* Workstation Atomic / Flatpak testing (adamw, 15:41:53)
* Workstation team are planning a Workstation Atomic image, expecting
Flatpak to be the primary app delivery mechanism, and would like
testing for it; we plan to add it to the Desktop matrix as a column
in the non-blocking desktops table (adamw, 15:48:21)
* Release validation NG (adamw, 15:50:31)
* ACTION: adamw to troll for interest in release validation app
development project outside of test@ list (adamw, 15:59:59)
* ACTION: adamw to do some very preliminary work on validation app
planning, maybe with design WG (adamw, 16:02:54)
Meeting ended at 16:05:15 UTC.
Action Items
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* adamw to arrange a Wayland test day
* sumantro to organize a test day for
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BetterSwitchableGraphicsSupport
* adamw to run firmware/hardware RAID tests
* coremodule to run Cloud tests
* adamw and sumantro to blog, mail, social media etc. i18n Test Day
* sumantro to send post-event report for FMW Test Day
* adamw to troll for interest in release validation app development
project outside of test@ list
* adamw to do some very preliminary work on validation app planning,
maybe with design WG
Action Items, by person
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* adamw
* adamw to arrange a Wayland test day
* adamw to run firmware/hardware RAID tests
* adamw and sumantro to blog, mail, social media etc. i18n Test Day
* adamw to troll for interest in release validation app development
project outside of test@ list
* adamw to do some very preliminary work on validation app planning,
maybe with design WG
* coremodule
* coremodule to run Cloud tests
* **UNASSIGNED**
* sumantro to organize a test day for
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BetterSwitchableGraphicsSupport
* sumantro to send post-event report for FMW Test Day
People Present (lines said)
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* adamw (156)
* cmurf (59)
* tflink (15)
* tenk (13)
* satellit (13)
* kparal (9)
* garretraziel (6)
* zodbot (5)
* coremodule (5)
* handsome_pirate (1)
* pschindl (1)
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#fedora-meeting-2: RELENG (2016-09-26)
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Meeting started by dgilmore at 14:35:13 UTC. The full logs are available
at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2016-09-26/releng.2016-0…
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Meeting summary
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* init process (dgilmore, 14:35:16)
* Communications (dgilmore, 14:39:11)
* ostree repo management needs redesigned and unified in pungi and
bodhi (dgilmore, 14:48:46)
* we are expecting to begin delivering ostree deliverables in the next
release or two for arches other than x86_64 (dgilmore, 14:52:25)
* please file a issue in pagure or send an email to the releng list
when dealing with issues changing what or how we deliver things
(dgilmore, 14:54:13)
* ACTION: dgilmore to set up a meeting with ostree, koji, bodhi, pungi
and releng stakeholders to redo from the ground up ostree support in
fedora (dgilmore, 15:02:34)
* rawhide signing (dgilmore, 15:04:20)
* asap likely today we will have rawhide fail if unsigned packages get
included (dgilmore, 15:13:20)
* ACTION: dgilmore to talk to adamw and tflink about how to work with
automated testing going forward (dgilmore, 15:19:51)
* Alternative Architectures updates (dgilmore, 15:21:22)
* alt arches in good state (dgilmore, 15:22:18)
* s390 composes working as of last week (dgilmore, 15:22:39)
* Open Floor (dgilmore, 15:25:46)
Meeting ended at 15:32:48 UTC.
Action Items
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* dgilmore to set up a meeting with ostree, koji, bodhi, pungi and
releng stakeholders to redo from the ground up ostree support in
fedora
* dgilmore to talk to adamw and tflink about how to work with automated
testing going forward
Action Items, by person
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* dgilmore
* dgilmore to set up a meeting with ostree, koji, bodhi, pungi and
releng stakeholders to redo from the ground up ostree support in
fedora
* dgilmore to talk to adamw and tflink about how to work with
automated testing going forward
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* dgilmore (116)
* nirik (41)
* puiterwijk (37)
* zodbot (7)
* masta (4)
* sharkcz (4)
* mboddu (3)
* tyll (0)
* bochecha (0)
* pbrobinson (0)
* pingou (0)
* maxamillion (0)
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#fedora-meeting: Docs Project Meeting - Agenda: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings
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Meeting started by randomuser at 14:02:47 UTC. The full logs are
available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2016-09-26/fedora_docs.201…
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (randomuser, 14:02:49)
* Release Cycle (randomuser, 14:07:08)
* LINK:
https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-25/f-25-docs-tasks.html
(randomuser, 14:07:18)
* beta freeze is tomorrow (randomuser, 14:07:33)
* ACTION: randomuser to build relnotes rpm today for beta release
(randomuser, 14:07:44)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/release-notes/issues (randomuser,
14:08:13)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1615 (randomuser,
14:10:39)
* ACTION: randomuser to branch release-notes git repo for F25 when
building RPM (randomuser, 14:20:30)
* specific doc status (randomuser, 14:33:00)
* Outstanding BZ Tickets (randomuser, 14:38:15)
* All Bugs - http://tinyurl.com/lbrq84 (randomuser, 14:38:18)
* pagure issues exist too (randomuser, 14:38:35)
* Open Floor Discussion (randomuser, 14:40:36)
Meeting ended at 14:49:13 UTC.
Action Items
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* randomuser to build relnotes rpm today for beta release
* randomuser to branch release-notes git repo for F25 when building RPM
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* randomuser
* randomuser to build relnotes rpm today for beta release
* randomuser to branch release-notes git repo for F25 when building
RPM
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* randomuser (60)
* pbokoc (33)
* zodbot (5)
* zoglesby (2)
* jsmith (2)
* shaunm (1)
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