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#fedora-meeting-1: F27 Final and Server Beta Go/No-Go meeting
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Meeting started by jkurik at 18:02:01 UTC. The full logs are available
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (jkurik, 18:02:14)
* Purpose of this meeting (jkurik, 18:03:59)
* Purpose of this meeting is to check whether or not F27 Final and F27
Modular Server Beta are ready for shipment, according to the release
criteria. (jkurik, 18:04:05)
* This is determined in a few ways: (jkurik, 18:04:10)
* * Release candidate compose is available (jkurik, 18:04:15)
* * No remaining blocker bugs (jkurik, 18:04:19)
* * Test matrices are fully completed (jkurik, 18:04:26)
* Current status of F27 Final release (jkurik, 18:04:32)
* RC compose is ready, Test matrices are available and there are some
proposed blockers. (jkurik, 18:05:47)
* LINK:
https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/compose/27/Fedora-27-20171105.0/
- The RC compose (jkurik, 18:05:56)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_27_RC_1.6_Summary
- Test matrices (jkurik, 18:06:03)
* LINK:
https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/27/final/buglist
- Proposed blockers (jkurik, 18:06:10)
* Current status of F27 Modular Server Beta release (jkurik, 18:06:21)
* RC is ready as well as Beta release criteria which are used as the
criteria for testing purposes. (jkurik, 18:07:19)
* LINK:
https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/compose/27/Fedora-Modular-27-20171108.2/
- The RC compose (jkurik, 18:07:29)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_27_Beta_Release_Criteria
- F27 Modular Server Beta Release criteria (jkurik, 18:07:35)
* Mini-Blocker Review (jkurik, 18:11:12)
* here are the proposed Final blockers (adamw, 18:11:34)
* (1469129) [abrt] gnome-shell: g_type_check_instance_cast():
gnome-shell killed by signal 11 (adamw, 18:11:44)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1469129 (adamw,
18:11:44)
* Proposed Blocker, gnome-shell, NEW (adamw, 18:11:45)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1499383 has
XDG_SESSION_TYPE=x11 (puiterwijk, 18:24:49)
* AGREED: 1469129 - RejectedBlocker (Final) - this bug concerns us,
but the fact that it was only proposed the day before the meeting
puts us in an awkward spot. There really isn't sufficient
information yet to clearly indicate this will affect a wide range of
users, or even for us to usefully evaluate what circumstances
trigger it or how long a fix may take. Given this, we don't feel we
can block the release at this time (adamw, 18:33:17)
* (1497897) VPN entry text missing in GNOME Shell menu when laptop is
plugged in to mains power (adamw, 18:33:41)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1497897 (adamw,
18:33:41)
* Proposed Blocker, gnome-shell, NEW (adamw, 18:33:41)
* LINK: https://puiterwijk.fedorapeople.org/gnome326/novpn.png
(puiterwijk, 18:36:15)
* AGREED: 1497897 - RejectedBlocker (Final) - since this doesn't
happen consistently (and doesn't seem to affect many people at all),
and the entry still works, we don't think this is serious enough to
constitute a violation of the criterion. We will document it in
CommonBugs (adamw, 18:41:08)
* (1510301) PulseAudio sometimes does not restart properly after logging
out (adamw, 18:41:24)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1510301 (adamw,
18:41:24)
* Proposed Blocker, pulseaudio, NEW (adamw, 18:41:25)
* AGREED: 1510301 - RejectedBlocker (Final) - we agreed that this is
an annoyance, but clearly doesn't constitute a criteria violation,
and it's reasonable to just document 'wait 20 seconds to log back in
again (or change the config setting)' (adamw, 18:47:34)
* miscellaneous F27 Final issues (adamw, 19:00:04)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=777732 (nirik,
19:06:46)
* we considered a couple of issues raised by nirik and puiterwijk, but
concluded neither needs to concern us too much (adamw, 19:09:50)
* F27 Final Test Matrices coverage (jkurik, 19:12:09)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_27_RC_1.6_Summary
- Test matrices for the F27 Final (jkurik, 19:12:16)
* F27 Final Go/No-Go decision (jkurik, 19:26:24)
* LINK: https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/jjpbDxl0gTnIY1xb82iSoQ
sha256sum is done (mboddu, 19:35:59)
* AGREED: The Fedora-27-20171105.0 (Fedora_27_RC_1.6) compose is
considered as GOLD and is going to be shipped on 2017-Nov-14 as
Fedora 27 Final release. (jkurik, 19:44:03)
* Mini blocker review for F27 Modular Server Beta release (jkurik,
19:46:59)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1508576 (jkurik, 19:48:00)
* Bug 1508576 – freeipa module installation fails (jkurik, 19:48:14)
* (1508576) freeipa module installation fails (adamw, 19:55:40)
* Proposed Blocker, fedora-modular-release, ASSIGNED (adamw,
19:56:08)
* AGREED: 1508576 - Accepted0Day (Server Beta) - clearly violates the
requirement for release-blocking roles to be deployable. sgallagh
states that this can be fixed in a new compose and thus will work
for all typical post-install deployments which pull from the
repositories, which we consider sufficient for a first release of
Modular Server Beta (adamw, 20:00:29)
* F27 Modular Server Beta Test Matrices coverage (jkurik, 20:00:38)
* QA is using F27 Modular Server Beta Release criteria instead of Test
Matrices (jkurik, 20:00:46)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_27_Beta_Release_Criteria
- F27 Modular Server Beta Release criteria (jkurik, 20:01:01)
* LINK: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=979415
(nirik, 20:21:28)
* AGREED: The RC was tested using OpenQA, covering most of the
server-specific requirements and base requirements. The OpenQA also
covers some of installations requirements and non-modular tests are
applicable to the modular release to some extent. Active Directory
client has been tested manually. As such, we consider the testing
coverage as sufficient. (jkurik, 20:28:46)
* F27 Modular Server Beta Go/No-Go decision (jkurik, 20:28:50)
* AGREED: The Fedora-Modular-27-20171108.2 RC compose is considered as
GOLD and is going to be shipped on 2017-Nov-14 as F27 Modular Server
Beta release. (jkurik, 20:32:43)
* Open floor (jkurik, 20:32:46)
* LINK: https://emojipedia.org/see-no-evil-monkey/ (kparal,
20:34:10)
Meeting ended at 20:37:26 UTC.
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#fedora-meeting: Infrastructure (2017-11-09)
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Meeting started by smooge at 18:00:02 UTC. The full logs are available
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Meeting summary
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* aloha (smooge, 18:00:02)
* New folks introductions (smooge, 18:01:03)
* This is a place where people who are interested in Fedora
Infrastructure can introduce themselves (smooge, 18:01:04)
* announcements and information (smooge, 18:05:46)
* PHX2 Colo Trip, Dec 4th - 9th (smooge, 18:05:46)
* Final freeze has started. PLEASE TEST ANY RCs. (smooge, 18:05:46)
* new notifs in staging, please test! (smooge, 18:05:46)
* bodhi-3.1.0-0.1.beta in staging for post-freeze:
https://bodhi.stg.fedoraproject.org/docs/release_notes.html#v3-1-0
(smooge, 18:05:47)
* Ticket cleanup (smooge, 18:08:03)
* none this week. (smooge, 18:08:03)
* Apprentice work day - 2017-11-29 - kevin (smooge, 18:10:32)
* What to do about Meetbot redux - kevin (smooge, 18:17:16)
* How to monitor bastion mail queue - kevin (smooge, 18:28:25)
* https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/5908 (smooge,
18:28:25)
* Apprentice Open office hours (smooge, 18:37:32)
* Open Floor (smooge, 18:39:50)
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* (none)
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#fedora-meeting-1: fpc
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Meeting started by geppetto at 17:00:29 UTC. The full logs are available
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (geppetto, 17:00:29)
* #720 Easy way of changing/removing shebangs (geppetto, 17:04:14)
* #723 Guidelines for handling deprecated dependencies during review
(geppetto, 17:06:27)
* #726 Review for SELinux Independent Policy packaging Draft (geppetto,
17:36:16)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/724
(ignatenkobrain, 17:54:26)
* Open Floor (geppetto, 17:56:54)
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* (none)
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#fedora-meeting-2: RELENG (2017-11-09)
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Meeting started by mboddu at 17:00:05 UTC. The full logs are available
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Meeting summary
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* init process (mboddu, 17:00:06)
* #7100 new koji tags for atomic host (mboddu, 17:05:35)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/releng/issue/7100 (mboddu, 17:05:45)
* Except for the dist-repo part, we are okay on the proposal. The
tasks are divided as: releng has to create tags and dustymabe will
take care of config changes and infra will handle "atomic" koji
permission (mboddu, 17:14:10)
* #7113 proposal to run bodhi updates pungi composes with `--no-label`
(mboddu, 17:15:07)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/releng/issue/7113 (mboddu, 17:15:15)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/pungi/pull-request/796 (dustymabe,
17:19:28)
* https://pagure.io/pungi/pull-request/796 will give the expected
ostree version that atomic-wg wants. Once its in place, puiterwijk
will test the image naming using "image_name_format" to have correct
values. (mboddu, 17:23:11)
* Alternative Architectures updates (mboddu, 17:25:39)
* Everything is going well with alternate arches (mboddu, 17:26:54)
* Open Floor (mboddu, 17:27:06)
Meeting ended at 17:32:40 UTC.
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#ansible-meeting: ansible core
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Meeting started by thaumos at 15:00:10 UTC. The full logs are available
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Meeting summary
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* keycloak_client new module review request (thaumos, 15:18:10)
* LINK: https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/31716 (thaumos,
15:19:22)
* Open Floor (thaumos, 15:33:16)
* unify wording and formatting of all include and import modules
(thaumos, 15:34:06)
* LINK: https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/31938 (thaumos,
15:34:16)
* ACTION: PR to be merged. (thaumos, 15:43:55)
* making options of type list (thaumos, 15:44:13)
* LINK: https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/32706 (thaumos,
15:44:49)
* ACTION: pr to be merged (thaumos, 15:51:10)
* Open Floro (thaumos, 15:51:26)
* callbacks discussion (thaumos, 15:54:31)
* LINK: https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/32480 (thaumos,
15:54:56)
* LINK: https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/32280 <= my insane
hack to allow callbacks to do 'all output' (bcoca, 16:11:05)
* LINK: https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/32633 <= another
callback related PR, i remove dupes/unused and make notes of those
we 'need to implement' , also i 'moved' some display to actual
callback (bcoca, 16:18:40)
* LINK: https://gist.github.com/bcoca/bce3120400735117fec8d82bab90421d
<= null callback (bcoca, 16:30:03)
* ACTION: redo 'safety PR' and rediscuss after using 'real objects'
but not the 'live ones' (bcoca, 16:53:14)
* ACTION: bcoca to PR the null.py callback. (abadger1999, 16:55:23)
Meeting ended at 16:59:44 UTC.
Action Items
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* PR to be merged.
* pr to be merged
* redo 'safety PR' and rediscuss after using 'real objects' but not the
'live ones'
* bcoca to PR the null.py callback.
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* bcoca
* bcoca to PR the null.py callback.
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* pr to be merged
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* thaumos (66)
* jimi|ansible (62)
* alikins (33)
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* eikef (15)
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#ansible-meeting: ansible core
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Meeting started by thaumos at 15:00:10 UTC. The full logs are available
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Meeting summary
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* keycloak_client new module review request (thaumos, 15:18:10)
* LINK: https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/31716 (thaumos,
15:19:22)
* Open Floor (thaumos, 15:33:16)
* unify wording and formatting of all include and import modules
(thaumos, 15:34:06)
* LINK: https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/31938 (thaumos,
15:34:16)
* ACTION: PR to be merged. (thaumos, 15:43:55)
* making options of type list (thaumos, 15:44:13)
* LINK: https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/32706 (thaumos,
15:44:49)
* ACTION: pr to be merged (thaumos, 15:51:10)
* Open Floro (thaumos, 15:51:26)
* callbacks discussion (thaumos, 15:54:31)
* LINK: https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/32480 (thaumos,
15:54:56)
* LINK: https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/32280 <= my insane
hack to allow callbacks to do 'all output' (bcoca, 16:11:05)
* LINK: https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/32633 <= another
callback related PR, i remove dupes/unused and make notes of those
we 'need to implement' , also i 'moved' some display to actual
callback (bcoca, 16:18:40)
* LINK: https://gist.github.com/bcoca/bce3120400735117fec8d82bab90421d
<= null callback (bcoca, 16:30:03)
* ACTION: redo 'safety PR' and rediscuss after using 'real objects'
but not the 'live ones' (bcoca, 16:53:14)
* ACTION: bcoca to PR the null.py callback. (abadger1999, 16:55:23)
Meeting ended at 16:59:44 UTC.
Action Items
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* PR to be merged.
* pr to be merged
* redo 'safety PR' and rediscuss after using 'real objects' but not the
'live ones'
* bcoca to PR the null.py callback.
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* bcoca
* bcoca to PR the null.py callback.
* **UNASSIGNED**
* PR to be merged.
* pr to be merged
* redo 'safety PR' and rediscuss after using 'real objects' but not
the 'live ones'
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* abadger1999 (120)
* thaumos (66)
* jimi|ansible (62)
* alikins (33)
* jtanner (20)
* eikef (15)
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#fedora-meeting: Fedora DotNet (2017-11-09)
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Meeting started by Rhea at 15:33:51 UTC. The full logs are available at
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (Rhea, 15:34:25)
* fedoraloves.net (Rhea, 15:35:31)
* LINK: https://cloud.rhea-ayase.eu/s/ye5vUkiHs7DoTnE (Rhea,
15:50:19)
* LINK: https://cloud.rhea-ayase.eu/s/XrEJVvMfxi5Rn7m (Rhea,
15:52:49)
* IDEA: business-card sized flyers (Rhea, 16:03:36)
* IDEA: front side: our logo, Fedora logo, and fedoraloves.net label
(monospace?) (Rhea, 16:03:59)
* IDEA: back side: Top half, fedoraloves.net (bigger font); Bottom
half, two columns: a) two lines dnf instructions, b) IRC & Discord.
(Rhea, 16:05:03)
* ACTION: Rhea open design ticket for flyers (Rhea, 16:05:45)
* IDEA: back side top, the link should also have a "go here" text,
such as "Get started at fedoraloves.net" (Rhea, 16:08:43)
* IDEA: Alternative is to have "Get started at" in front, and details
in the back. (Rhea, 16:18:51)
Meeting ended at 16:19:43 UTC.
Action Items
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* Rhea open design ticket for flyers
Action Items, by person
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* Rhea
* Rhea open design ticket for flyers
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
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