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#fedora-meeting-1: Fedora-fr
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Meeting started by Renault at 19:32:13 UTC. The full logs are available
at
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Meeting summary
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* Association Borsalinux-fr (Renault, 19:32:41)
* ACTION: eseyman demander à FPH une salle pour le 20/01 (Renault,
19:37:37)
* ACTION: renault finir le bilan moral (Renault, 19:37:46)
* Fedora-Fr.org (Renault, 19:38:00)
* Marketing (Renault, 19:43:16)
* Documentation (Renault, 19:47:12)
* LINK:
https://doc.fedora-fr.org/wiki/Numlockx_:_Activer_le_clavier_num%C3%A9rique…
a été traité. (Nicosss, 19:47:46)
* Traduction (Renault, 19:49:24)
* Projet Fedora (Renault, 19:50:39)
* les élections du conseil, FESCo et Mindshare sont repoussées à
courant janvier 2018 (Renault, 19:51:05)
* Premier samedi à la Cité des Sciences (Renault, 19:52:40)
* ACTION: eseyman contacter Alexandre et Jean-Baptiste à propos des
RF27 (Renault, 19:55:37)
* Paris Open Source Summit (POSS) (Renault, 19:56:23)
* Discussions libres (Renault, 19:59:02)
Meeting ended at 20:03:58 UTC.
Action Items
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* eseyman demander à FPH une salle pour le 20/01
* renault finir le bilan moral
* eseyman contacter Alexandre et Jean-Baptiste à propos des RF27
Action Items, by person
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* eseyman
* eseyman demander à FPH une salle pour le 20/01
* eseyman contacter Alexandre et Jean-Baptiste à propos des RF27
* **UNASSIGNED**
* renault finir le bilan moral
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#fedora-blocker-review: F28-blocker-review
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Meeting started by adamw at 17:01:36 UTC. The full logs are available at
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (adamw, 17:01:36)
* Introduction (adamw, 17:08:05)
* Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have
bugs. (adamw, 17:08:05)
* We'll be following the process outlined at: (adamw, 17:08:05)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
(adamw, 17:08:06)
* The bugs up for review today are available at: (adamw, 17:08:07)
* LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (adamw,
17:08:11)
* The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (adamw,
17:08:13)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Basic_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 17:08:15)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_28_Beta_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 17:08:17)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_28_Final_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 17:08:19)
* 2 Proposed Blockers (Beta) (adamw, 17:08:26)
* 1 Accepted Blockers (Beta) (adamw, 17:08:32)
* 1 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (Beta) (adamw, 17:08:36)
* 1 Proposed Blockers (Final) (adamw, 17:08:46)
* coremodule will secretarialize (adamw, 17:13:31)
* (1496562) freeipa tests in Fedora28+ shouldn't test for specific NSS
database filenames, but should be flexible (adamw, 17:13:48)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1496562 (adamw,
17:13:48)
* Proposed Blocker, pki-core, ASSIGNED (adamw, 17:13:48)
* AGREED: 1496562 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - this bug is a clear
violation of "Release-blocking roles and the supported role
configuration interfaces must meet the core functional Role
Definition Requirements to the extent that supported roles can be
successfully deployed, started, stopped, brought to a working
configuration, and queried" (adamw, 17:19:17)
* (1520580) Unable to log in on arm disk images (adamw, 17:19:25)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1520580 (adamw,
17:19:26)
* Proposed Blocker, selinux-policy, NEW (adamw, 17:19:26)
* AGREED: 1520580 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - clear violation of "A
system installed without a graphical package set must boot to a
state where it is possible to log in through at least one of the
default virtual consoles" for ARM disk images (adamw, 17:24:31)
* moving onto the proposed Final blocker (adamw, 17:24:54)
* (1518032) dnfdragora notifies of available updates in Plasma live
session (adamw, 17:25:04)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1518032 (adamw,
17:25:04)
* Proposed Blocker, spin-kickstarts, ASSIGNED (adamw, 17:25:04)
* AGREED: 1518032 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - clear violation of
"Release-blocking desktops must notify the user of available
updates, but must not do so when running as a live image" (adamw,
17:29:47)
* moving onto the Beta proposed FE (adamw, 17:30:03)
* (1519042) sugar desktop starts in journal. (adamw, 17:30:04)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1519042 (adamw,
17:30:04)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, sugar-journal, NEW (adamw, 17:30:04)
* AGREED: 1519042 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - this is a clear
wrong behaviour in a non-blocking live image that can't be fixed
with an update, and the fix is highly likely to be localized to
Sugar (adamw, 17:32:54)
* Open floor (adamw, 17:32:57)
Meeting ended at 17:36:00 UTC.
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* (none)
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#fedora-commops: Fedora CommOps (2017-12-11)
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Meeting started by jwf at 15:29:27 UTC. The full logs are available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-commops/2017-12-11/commops.2017-12…
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Meeting summary
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* Agenda (jwf, 15:29:46)
* LINK:
https://infinote.fedoraproject.org/cgit/infinote/tree/meeting-templates/fed…
(jwf, 15:29:52)
* (1) Roll call / Q&A (jwf, 15:29:52)
* (2) Announcements (jwf, 15:29:52)
* (3) Action items from last meeting (jwf, 15:29:52)
* (4) Tickets (jwf, 15:29:52)
* (5) Open floor (jwf, 15:29:53)
* Roll call / Q&A (jwf, 15:30:26)
* Name; Timezone; Sub-projects/Interest Areas (jwf, 15:30:36)
* ACTION: commops New members, make sure you introduce yourself on the
CommOps mailing list [ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CommOps/Join ]
(jwf, 15:30:36)
* Justin W. Flory; UTC-5; CommOps, Diversity, Ambassadors,
sysadmin-badges (jwf, 15:30:56)
* Radka Janek; UTC+1; .NET SIG, CommOps, Diversity, Ambassadors,
Bunnehs, Cookiemonsters (Rhea, 15:31:50)
* Alberto Rodriguez, UTC-6, CommOps, Marketing,DonNet SIG, infra
(bt0, 15:32:01)
* Eduard Lucena; UTC-3; CommOps, Ambassadors, Marketing, Cheat-Cubes
(x3mboy, 15:32:18)
* Announcements (jwf, 15:35:56)
* Announcements (jwf, 15:36:02)
* === CommOps FAD proposal: First draft complete === (jwf, 15:36:09)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_CommOps_2018 (jwf,
15:36:09)
* A first draft of our FAD proposal is complete. The goals for the
event are outlined. We'll cover this more in-depth later in the
meeting. (jwf, 15:36:30)
* === "Heroes of Fedora (HoF) – F27 Final" === (jwf, 15:36:45)
* LINK:
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/heroes-of-fedora-f27-final/
(jwf, 15:36:48)
* Huzzah to the QA heroes of Fedora! This article gives shout-outs to
all the people who helped test, break, and improve Fedora before the
general public had their hands on it. Thank you to our heroes!
coremodule++ (jwf, 15:36:55)
* === "Holiday Reminder" from Fedora Infrastructure team === (jwf,
15:37:10)
* LINK:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/infrastructure@lists.fedorapr…
(jwf, 15:37:15)
* Many people won't be around as often in the next few weeks. If you
need help from the Infra team, the best bet is to file a ticket this
month. (jwf, 15:37:19)
* Action items from last meeting (jwf, 15:38:47)
* LINK:
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2017-12-04/commops.2017-…
(jwf, 15:38:51)
* How This Works: We look at past #action items from the last meeting
for quick follow-up. If a task is completed, we move on to the next
one. If it isn't, we get an update and re-action if needed. If no
status, we'll try to get a quick update and move forward. (jwf,
15:38:58)
* === [MOSTLY COMPELTE] "jwf With FAD proposal, create a proposal
draft and logic model flowchart, create new sub-tasks to divide and
conquer FAD planning" === (jwf, 15:39:08)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_CommOps_2018 (jwf,
15:39:12)
* Draft is done, but logic model flowchart is pending. We'll figure
out the rest during the meeting (jwf, 15:39:16)
* === "skamath Add comment to ticket #114 (Grimoire ticket) that
estimates a timeline for the Perceval fedmsg plugin development.
What is required? About how much work is involved? Do you foresee
any possible blockers?" === (jwf, 15:39:49)
* === [COMPLETE] "Rhea Create the wiki page for the CommOps FAD, using
the 2017 Diversity FAD page as a base" === (jwf, 15:41:02)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_CommOps_2018 (jwf,
15:41:07)
* === [COMPLETE] "jwf Reach out to CommOps members and confirm
participants, add to wiki page" === (jwf, 15:41:11)
* === [COMPLETE] "Rhea Research hotel costs in Brno for the duration
of the FAD (preferably near DevConf venue, but not required)" ===
(jwf, 15:41:16)
* Rhea put a hold on two rooms in one hotel already ($30/night); will
revisit later in meeting (jwf, 15:41:20)
* === "bt0 For 50% of all drafts in CommBlog, reach out to authors and
confirm if they want their articles published or discarded (due:
2017-12-11)" === (jwf, 15:41:27)
* Complete! bt0 emailed draft authors and I emailed mattdm on one, so
all articles were covered. (jwf, 15:43:51)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/issue/121#comment-483942
(jwf, 15:43:53)
* Tickets (jwf, 15:44:37)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/issues?tags=meeting (jwf,
15:44:44)
* === Ticket #125: "[TRACKER TICKET] Organize a CommOps FAD" ===
(jwf, 15:45:26)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/issue/125 (jwf, 15:45:30)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_CommOps_2018 (jwf,
15:45:33)
* The purpose of the CommOps FAD is to… (jwf, 15:46:24)
* 1. Pursue plan of deploying a GrimoireLabs dashboard, visualizing
fedmsg data (jwf, 15:46:33)
* 2. Launch Fedora Appreciation Day in 2018 (jwf, 15:46:42)
* 3. (secondary) Analyze Fedora Elections and develop year-long plan
to improve community engagement in elections (jwf, 15:46:55)
* 4. (secondary) Evaluate critical areas of Fedora that fedmsg
integration would be helpful; create development plan for them (e.g.
Fedora Magazine / Community Blog) (jwf, 15:47:06)
* The purpose of the FAD objectives is to take advantage of our time
together for collaborative discussion and planning. We should avoid
individual-type of work like research and programming, unless really
necessary. We want to take advantage of our time together to the
fullest! (jwf, 15:50:46)
* IDEA: Emphasize how the community could utilize metrics in a
Grimoire dashboard. Why is it relevant? How could the community
benefit? We should try to give a concrete example of our vision.
(jwf, 15:58:00)
* What problem does visualizing fedmsg data solve? (jwf, 16:00:42)
* Visualizing fedmsg data in a dashboard allows us to create charts,
tables, and other visual aids to understand the data in fedmsg.
Right now, to use it, you have to write code / scripts to interact
with the data. The dashboard lets anyone, regardless of tech
knowledge, see easy-to-understand visualizations about the health of
their project / sub-project in Fedor. (jwf, 16:01:55)
* For example, a maintainer of a large project (say, Pagure) might see
the number of commits over time, the number of new contributors in a
month, etc. The localization team may have a geographic chart for
languages, so if a new language suddenly starts receiving
translations, the community could reach out and support the new
translators in their efforts. (jwf, 16:03:01)
* IDEA: Figuring out what times/days/months people contribute the most
with bar graphs (jwf, 16:04:06)
* IDEA: Seeing if new contributors enter the community after an event
is organized / executed (jwf, 16:04:43)
* IDEA: Planning internal Fedora team sprints when more people are
contributing (jwf, 16:05:20)
* IDEA: Understand new contributors better and where they snap off (if
they do) (skamath, 16:05:21)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/membership-map/ambassadors.html
(skamath, 16:07:19)
* IDEA: The Epic Journey of the New Fedora Contributor (i.e. using the
visualizations to see pathways / successes / failures of new
contributors entering the community for the first time) (jwf,
16:09:45)
* NOTE: The Hubs team did a lot of research into the pathways of new
contributors with almost a full-year of research. Make sure we don't
duplicate work that's already done and lightyears ahead of us
already! (jwf, 16:11:42)
* ACTION: commops FAD attendees, please research your travel costs and
add them to the wiki as soon as possible! (jwf, 16:13:52)
* ACTION: jwf Create a logic model based on the current FAD template
(jwf, 16:14:18)
* ACTION: jwf Submit FAD proposal to Council by Tuesday evening, US
EST (jwf, 16:14:32)
* === Ticket #114: "Use metrics dashboard to visualize fedmsg data"
=== (jwf, 16:15:01)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/issue/114 (jwf, 16:15:04)
* ACTION: skamath Add comment to ticket #114 (Grimoire ticket) that
estimates a timeline for the Perceval fedmsg plugin development.
What is required? About how much work is involved? Do you foresee
any possible blockers? (jwf, 16:18:19)
* === Ticket #121: "Follow up with authors of CommBlog drafts" ===
(jwf, 16:20:11)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-commops/issue/121 (jwf, 16:20:17)
* AGREED: Will mark ticket as blocked for now, pending feedback from
all authors. Once we receive an answer from all authors, we can
close the ticket. Articles that are given a +1 will make it onto the
publishing schedule. (jwf, 16:25:25)
* Open floor (jwf, 16:26:31)
* HELP: FAD attendees, make sure to get your travel estimates into the
FAD wiki page as soon as possible! (jwf, 16:29:32)
* LINK: https://www.carbonitex.net/discord/server?s=232740312194351106
(Rhea, 16:31:59)
* ACTION: dhanesh95 Reach out to Fedora Magazine team to get feedback
on helpful data to incorporate into fedmsg via WordPress's REST API
(note limitations of REST API too – what's helpful for what we can
extract?) (jwf, 16:33:47)
Meeting ended at 16:36:24 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* commops New members, make sure you introduce yourself on the CommOps
mailing list [ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CommOps/Join ]
* commops FAD attendees, please research your travel costs and add them
to the wiki as soon as possible!
* jwf Create a logic model based on the current FAD template
* jwf Submit FAD proposal to Council by Tuesday evening, US EST
* skamath Add comment to ticket #114 (Grimoire ticket) that estimates a
timeline for the Perceval fedmsg plugin development. What is required?
About how much work is involved? Do you foresee any possible blockers?
* dhanesh95 Reach out to Fedora Magazine team to get feedback on helpful
data to incorporate into fedmsg via WordPress's REST API (note
limitations of REST API too – what's helpful for what we can extract?)
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* commops
* commops New members, make sure you introduce yourself on the CommOps
mailing list [ https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CommOps/Join ]
* commops FAD attendees, please research your travel costs and add
them to the wiki as soon as possible!
* dhanesh95
* dhanesh95 Reach out to Fedora Magazine team to get feedback on
helpful data to incorporate into fedmsg via WordPress's REST API
(note limitations of REST API too – what's helpful for what we can
extract?)
* jwf
* jwf Create a logic model based on the current FAD template
* jwf Submit FAD proposal to Council by Tuesday evening, US EST
* skamath
* skamath Add comment to ticket #114 (Grimoire ticket) that estimates
a timeline for the Perceval fedmsg plugin development. What is
required? About how much work is involved? Do you foresee any
possible blockers?
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
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#fedora-meeting: l10n
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Meeting started by jibec at 11:00:19 UTC. The full logs are available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2017-12-11/l10n.2017-12-11…
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Meeting summary
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* Please remember numbers are tickets numbers in
https://pagure.io/g11n/issues (jibec, 11:00:53)
* Flock feedback (jibec, 11:01:03)
* #38 Host Zanata in Fedora infrastructure (jibec, 11:01:07)
* #39 Using Transtats to track out-of-schedule string change for F28
(jibec, 11:06:13)
* #40 The documentation system reboot & translation (jibec, 11:09:20)
* #32 T-shirts for active contributors of Translation group (jibec,
11:12:12)
* #35 FAS group for L10N #37 FAS group cleanup (jibec, 11:14:51)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/6320 (jibec,
11:16:09)
* #43 Adding Filipino (jibec, 11:17:47)
* #45 cvsl10n - november followup (jibec, 11:26:56)
* #48 Fedora 28 translation sprint l10n (jibec, 11:27:53)
* #49 Red Hat now have a translation program manager (REHL, not Fedora)
(jibec, 11:40:53)
* #50 The new Fedora wiki homepage needs translation (jibec, 11:54:13)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Project_Wiki (jibec,
11:54:31)
* Open floor (jibec, 11:56:58)
* Next meeting (jibec, 12:02:25)
* Open floor (jibec, 12:02:32)
* Next meeting (jibec, 12:05:57)
Meeting ended at 12:06:31 UTC.
Action Items
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Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
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#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2017-12-08)
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Meeting started by tyll at 16:05:46 UTC. The full logs are available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2017-12-08/fesco.2017-12-0…
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Meeting summary
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* LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1799 (orc_fedo, 16:07:22)
* init process (tyll, 16:08:37)
* #1799 The ProvenPackager rubric needs more formality (tyll, 16:10:01)
* orc_fedo would be ok to table the issue since it was filed yesterday
(tyll, 16:10:39)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1799#comment-483725 (tyll,
16:11:11)
* AGREED: delay a week to discuss this and allow the proposal to be
refined (+7, 0, 0) (tyll, 16:20:25)
* Next week's chair (tyll, 16:21:22)
* ACTION: dgilmore will chair next meeting (tyll, 16:22:19)
* next two meetings will be December 15th then January 5th
(dgilmore, 16:23:30)
* Open Floor (tyll, 16:23:50)
* elections are expected to be in January (tyll, 16:24:33)
* all candidates for election please be on top of questions when they
come up. report to #fedora-admin and/or
https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/ any issues with infra when
submitting (dgilmore, 16:32:36)
* ACTION: everyone think about how to make sure the next election runs
smoothly (tyll, 16:33:29)
Meeting ended at 16:35:21 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* dgilmore will chair next meeting
* everyone think about how to make sure the next election runs smoothly
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* dgilmore
* dgilmore will chair next meeting
* **UNASSIGNED**
* everyone think about how to make sure the next election runs
smoothly
People Present (lines said)
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* dgilmore (27)
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* jforbes (13)
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