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#fedora-meeting: F27 Releng Retrospective
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Meeting started by syeghiay at 18:02:04 UTC. The full logs are available
at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2017-12-04/f27_releng_retr…
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Meeting summary
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* LINK:
https://public.etherpad-mozilla.org/p/FedoraRelease27RelEngRetrospective
(dgilmore, 18:02:43)
* LINK: https://meet.jit.si/fedora27retro (mattdm, 18:03:01)
* LINK: https://www.youtube.com/c/MatthewMiller-mattdm/live (mattdm,
18:04:43)
* live stream (slightly delayed) (mattdm, 18:04:56)
* ACTION: Schedule Slipping: investigate how to cope with such a short
release cycle and if we still think skipping alpha is still worth the
benefits (syeghiay, 18:42:02)
* ACTION: Process Needed: investigate how we can ensure rel-eng is keep
in loop regarding important items (syeghiay, 18:48:26)
* ACTION: Packager Tooling not feature complete: investigate how we can
repair this moving forward (syeghiay, 18:51:52)
* ACTION: Multiarch Support in container registry: investigate how we
can better communicate/collaborate on the multi arch efforts - central
point for this type of communication? (syeghiay, 18:58:40)
* ACTION: Multiarch Support in container registry: create issue for this
problem (syeghiay, 18:59:07)
* ACTION: Addition of s390 architecture: investigate process for change
management (syeghiay, 19:00:41)
* ACTION: Addition of s390 architecture: investigate process for
portfolio (multi-project) management (syeghiay, 19:00:57)
* ACTION: Lack of project management: investigate establishing more
project management processes (syeghiay, 19:01:24)
Meeting ended at 19:02:57 UTC.
Action Items
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* Schedule Slipping: investigate how to cope with such a short release
cycle and if we still think skipping alpha is still worth the benefits
* Process Needed: investigate how we can ensure rel-eng is keep in loop
regarding important items
* Packager Tooling not feature complete: investigate how we can repair
this moving forward
* Multiarch Support in container registry: investigate how we can better
communicate/collaborate on the multi arch efforts - central point for
this type of communication?
* Multiarch Support in container registry: create issue for this problem
* Addition of s390 architecture: investigate process for change
management
* Addition of s390 architecture: investigate process for portfolio
(multi-project) management
* Lack of project management: investigate establishing more project
management processes
Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* Schedule Slipping: investigate how to cope with such a short release
cycle and if we still think skipping alpha is still worth the
benefits
* Process Needed: investigate how we can ensure rel-eng is keep in
loop regarding important items
* Packager Tooling not feature complete: investigate how we can repair
this moving forward
* Multiarch Support in container registry: investigate how we can
better communicate/collaborate on the multi arch efforts - central
point for this type of communication?
* Multiarch Support in container registry: create issue for this
problem
* Addition of s390 architecture: investigate process for change
management
* Addition of s390 architecture: investigate process for portfolio
(multi-project) management
* Lack of project management: investigate establishing more project
management processes
People Present (lines said)
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* bowlofeggs (21)
* dustymabe (15)
* zodbot (13)
* puiterwijk (13)
* syeghiay (12)
* dgilmore (12)
* threebean (4)
* mattdm (4)
* jwf (4)
* mboddu (3)
* tflink (1)
* sgallagh (1)
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#fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG
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Meeting started by stickster at 14:00:14 UTC. The full logs are
available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2017-12-04/workstation.2…
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Meeting summary
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* Roll call (stickster, 14:00:20)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issues?tags=meeting --
agenda (stickster, 14:03:55)
* Langpacks (stickster, 14:06:09)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/27 (stickster,
14:06:11)
* LONG discussion on technical choices/avenues, needs more winnowing
down to a process that will work in the UI with given tools
(stickster, 14:58:38)
* ACTION: juhp_ drive additional conversation in #fedora-workstation
and on list to figure out where devel effort would really be needed
(stickster, 14:59:09)
Meeting ended at 14:59:12 UTC.
Action Items
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* juhp_ drive additional conversation in #fedora-workstation and on list
to figure out where devel effort would really be needed
Action Items, by person
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* juhp_
* juhp_ drive additional conversation in #fedora-workstation and on
list to figure out where devel effort would really be needed
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* juhp_ (58)
* stickster (57)
* mcatanzaro (18)
* zodbot (13)
* otaylor (8)
* kalev (5)
* ryanlerch (4)
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#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2017-12-01)
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Meeting started by nirik at 16:00:04 UTC. The full logs are available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2017-12-01/fesco.2017-12-0…
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Meeting summary
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* init process (nirik, 16:00:04)
* #1792 bodhi enablement and Beta freeze need to be the same day
(nirik, 16:03:37)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1794 (nirik, 16:03:37)
* AGREED: fesco agrees to change the bodhi activation date to be the
same day as beta freeze moving forward. (+7,0,2) (nirik, 16:06:57)
* #1790 Proposal for 3 week freeze (nirik, 16:07:10)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1790 (nirik, 16:07:10)
* ACTION: nirik to file taskotron ticket to remove or reduce in
importance the upgrade path check (nirik, 16:29:33)
* AGREED: Add 1 week to beta freeze, and review after Fedora 28
release to see if it was worth while (+5, 2, 2) (nirik, 16:32:23)
* #1761 Update of "Fedora Release Live Cycle" and "Changes/ Policy"
(nirik, 16:32:38)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1761 (nirik, 16:32:38)
* AGREED: with addition of 3 weeks for beta freeze and bodhi
activation point moving to beta freeze the new release life cycle
and changes policy are approved. (+6,0,3) (nirik, 16:40:15)
* #1767 F28 Self Contained Changes (nirik, 16:40:20)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1767 (nirik, 16:40:20)
* AGREED: both f28 self contained changes are approved. (+7,0,2)
(nirik, 16:42:17)
* #1795 F28 System Wide Change: time-1.8 (nirik, 16:42:22)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1795 (nirik, 16:42:22)
* AGREED: Change is approved (7,0,2) (nirik, 16:44:56)
* #1796 Mandatory Release notes for Changes (nirik, 16:45:15)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1796 (nirik, 16:45:15)
* AGREED: Mandatory release notes are approved (+7,0,2) (nirik,
16:48:16)
* #1798 F28 System Wide Change: Improved Laptop Battery Life (nirik,
16:48:28)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1798 (nirik, 16:48:28)
* AGREED: Change is approved (+7,0,2) (nirik, 16:51:02)
* #1663 How strongly should we recommend systemd sandboxing features?
(nirik, 16:51:18)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1663 (nirik, 16:51:18)
* AGREED: draft policy approved and FPC is asked to review and comment
and fold into guidelines. (8,0,1) (jsmith was +1 in ticket and tyll
was +1 before leaving) (nirik, 17:10:35)
* next weeks chair (nirik, 17:11:40)
* jsmith to chair next week (nirik, 17:12:02)
* Open Floor (nirik, 17:12:11)
* Election nominations are ongoing. Please nominate yourself or
others. :) (nirik, 17:12:39)
* next week Fedora Infrastructure is doing a datacenter move. see
announcements for more info and
https://www.fedorastatus.org/q4maint.html for whats what day.
(nirik, 17:13:25)
Meeting ended at 17:15:18 UTC.
Action Items
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* nirik to file taskotron ticket to remove or reduce in importance the
upgrade path check
Action Items, by person
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* nirik
* nirik to file taskotron ticket to remove or reduce in importance the
upgrade path check
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* nirik (108)
* bowlofeggs (39)
* dgilmore (37)
* jforbes (31)
* kalev (27)
* maxamillion (21)
* zodbot (20)
* tyll (17)
* zbyszek (7)
* jsmith_work (3)
* smooge (1)
* sgallagh (0)
* jsmith (0)
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