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#fedora-meeting-1: Fedora-fr
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Meeting started by Renault at 18:31:40 UTC. The full logs are available
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Meeting summary
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* Borsalinux-fr (Renault, 18:32:07)
* Fedora-Fr.org (Renault, 18:34:06)
* Marketing (Renault, 18:34:52)
* Documentation (Renault, 18:37:33)
* Traduction (Renault, 18:38:52)
* Projet Fedora (Renault, 18:40:40)
* Fedora 31 beta sort demain (Renault, 18:40:47)
* Premier samedi à la Cité des Sciences (Renault, 18:41:58)
* Paris Open Source Summit 2019 (Renault, 18:42:37)
* Discussions libres (Renault, 18:44:59)
Meeting ended at 18:54:12 UTC.
Action Items
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Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
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* Renault (51)
* Nicosss (19)
* eseyman (13)
* zodbot (11)
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Notification time stamped 2019-09-16 17:25:02 UTC
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#fedora-blocker-review: F31-blocker-review
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Meeting started by adamw at 16:02:22 UTC. The full logs are available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2019-09-16/f31-bloc…
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (adamw, 16:02:23)
* Introduction (adamw, 16:04:55)
* Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have
bugs. (adamw, 16:04:56)
* We'll be following the process outlined at: (adamw, 16:04:56)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
(adamw, 16:04:56)
* The bugs up for review today are available at: (adamw, 16:04:57)
* LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (adamw,
16:04:59)
* The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (adamw,
16:05:01)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Basic_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:05:03)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_31_Beta_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:05:05)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_31_Final_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:05:07)
* coremodule will secretarialize (adamw, 16:05:09)
* for Final, we have: (adamw, 16:05:20)
* 7 Proposed Blockers (adamw, 16:05:25)
* 6 Accepted Blockers (adamw, 16:05:25)
* 1 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:05:28)
* let's get started with proposed blockers (adamw, 16:08:51)
* (1751673) Second user gets locked out of his session every ~10 seconds
(adamw, 16:08:58)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1751673 (adamw,
16:08:58)
* Proposed Blocker, gdm, NEW (adamw, 16:08:58)
* AGREED: 1751673 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - this is accepted as a
violation of "All elements of the default panel (or equivalent)
configuration in all release-blocking desktops must function
correctly in typical use" (adamw, 16:16:15)
* (1750805) Apply button stays gray on Network configuration (adamw,
16:16:23)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1750805 (adamw,
16:16:24)
* Proposed Blocker, gnome-control-center, NEW (adamw, 16:16:24)
* AGREED: 1750805 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - this is accepted as a
violation of "All elements of the default panel (or equivalent)
configuration in all release-blocking desktops must function
correctly in typical use." (adamw, 16:19:00)
* (1749868) GNOME Software doesn't prepare offline updates (adamw,
16:19:10)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1749868 (adamw,
16:19:10)
* Proposed Blocker, gnome-software, NEW (adamw, 16:19:10)
* fesco has asked dnf to revert the change that appears to be causing
it (bcotton, 16:20:26)
* AGREED: 1749868 - punt (delay decision) - we believe the reversion
of the DNF skip_if_unavailable default to True should mean this is
no longer a big enough problem to be a blocker, we will confirm this
once the reversion is done (adamw, 16:25:59)
* (1747408) Cannot upgrade to Fedora 31: package
exa-0.9.0-2.module_f31+5365+04413d87.x86_64 requires
libgit2.so.28()(64bit), but none of the providers can be installed
(adamw, 16:33:50)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1747408 (adamw,
16:33:50)
* Proposed Blocker, libgit2, NEW (adamw, 16:33:50)
* AGREED: 1747408 - RejectedBlocker (Final) AcceptedFreezeException
(Final) - we reject this as a Final blocker for the same reason we
rejected it for Beta: it does not affect any release-blocking
default package set, so does not break the criteria. But it's
definitely a bad bug and we'd like it resolved if at all possible,
and documented if it is not resolved (adamw, 16:48:48)
* (1750036) Problem with time syncronization (adamw, 16:50:01)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1750036 (adamw,
16:50:02)
* Proposed Blocker, selinux-policy, ASSIGNED (adamw, 16:50:02)
* AGREED: 1750036 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - this is accepted as a
blocker with reference to multiple criteria: default panel
functionality (as this affects time configuration), system services
(as the service does not really start 'properly'), and
domain-related criteria (as lack of time synchronization will often
break domain authentication) (adamw, 16:55:01)
* adamw is a legend (kparal, 16:55:22)
* (1750345) [abrt] gnome-initial-setup:
webkitWebViewBaseMakeGLContextCurrent(): gnome-initial-setup killed by
SIGSEGV (adamw, 16:55:29)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1750345 (adamw,
16:55:29)
* Proposed Blocker, webkit2gtk3, NEW (adamw, 16:55:29)
* AGREED: 1750345 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - this is accepted as a
violation of "All elements of the default panel (or equivalent)
configuration in all release-blocking desktops must function
correctly in typical use" (adamw, 17:00:30)
* (1751852) Xfce is using upstream desktop background (adamw, 17:00:37)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1751852 (adamw,
17:00:37)
* Proposed Blocker, xfdesktop, ON_QA (adamw, 17:00:37)
* AGREED: 1751852 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - this is accepted as a
violation of "The proposed final Fedora artwork must be included and
used as the background on release-blocking desktops..." (adamw,
17:04:41)
* Proposed Final freeze exception (adamw, 17:05:18)
* (1751936) Google account shows just empty window (adamw, 17:05:27)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1751936 (adamw,
17:05:27)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, gnome-online-accounts, NEW (adamw,
17:05:28)
* AGREED: 1751936 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - we accept this as a
*blocker*, not just an FE, as a violation of "All elements of the
default panel (or equivalent) configuration in all release-blocking
desktops must function correctly in typical use" (adamw, 17:11:52)
* Accepted blockers (adamw, 17:12:43)
* most of these are in a fairly straightforward state and don't need
particular followup (adamw, 17:12:54)
* (1728240) Cannot start Fedora-KDE-Live (F31) in basic graphics mode on
BIOS machine (adamw, 17:13:33)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1728240 (adamw,
17:13:33)
* Accepted Blocker, sddm, NEW (adamw, 17:13:33)
* ACTION: frantisekz and lruzicka to further investigate on this bug
(sddm (and possibly gdm?) issues with basic graphics mode) (adamw,
17:17:22)
* Open floor (adamw, 17:18:25)
Meeting ended at 17:25:02 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* frantisekz and lruzicka to further investigate on this bug (sddm (and
possibly gdm?) issues with basic graphics mode)
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* frantisekz
* frantisekz and lruzicka to further investigate on this bug (sddm
(and possibly gdm?) issues with basic graphics mode)
* lruzicka
* frantisekz and lruzicka to further investigate on this bug (sddm
(and possibly gdm?) issues with basic graphics mode)
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* adamw (132)
* kparal (74)
* frantisekz (74)
* lruzicka (46)
* sgallagh (35)
* bcotton (26)
* coremodule (21)
* zodbot (14)
* pwhalen (12)
* Southern_Gentlem (5)
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Notification time stamped 2019-09-16 15:58:31 UTC
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#fedora-meeting: Fedora QA Meeting
==================================
Meeting started by adamw at 15:01:31 UTC. The full logs are available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2019-09-16/fedora-qa.2019-…
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Meeting summary
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* Roll call (adamw, 15:01:40)
* Previous meeting follow-up (adamw, 15:08:57)
* "adamw to poke some people about whether we have or can set up an
account for EC2 testing so people don't have to spend money to test
it" - i did that, and got a lot of 'just use a free tier account!'
but also a useful reply from stickster which I will follow up on
(adamw, 15:09:56)
* Fedora 31 status (adamw, 15:15:51)
* Beta was signed off on Thursday and is being released tomorrow
(adamw, 15:16:15)
* ACTION: adamw to create and fill out common bugs page (adamw,
15:16:34)
* please tag any bugs you think are worthy of Common Bugs inclusion
with the CommonBugs keyword (adamw, 15:25:38)
* Automatic blockers vs. 'last minute' blockers: FIGHT (adamw,
15:25:47)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1752550
(satellit_, 15:31:19)
* ACTION: adamw to add a short note to each relevant wiki page
(automatic blockers and 'last minute' blockers) to explain the
relationship between them (adamw, 15:47:16)
* ACTION: adamw to resolve all discontinuities (adamw, 15:48:22)
* Test Day / community event status (adamw, 15:49:08)
* Gnome 3.34 Test day is coming on this Wednesday |
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2019-09-18_Gnome_3.34_Test_Day
(adamw, 15:49:43)
* Kernel 5.3 Test Week is from 30th Sept- 7th oct (adamw, 15:50:20)
* LINK: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=37686057
(cmurf, 15:51:29)
* Modularity test day will be on September 27th (adamw, 15:51:34)
* please come help with Test Days everyone! (adamw, 15:51:43)
* Open floor (adamw, 15:51:57)
Meeting ended at 15:58:31 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* adamw to create and fill out common bugs page
* adamw to add a short note to each relevant wiki page (automatic
blockers and 'last minute' blockers) to explain the relationship
between them
* adamw to resolve all discontinuities
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* adamw
* adamw to create and fill out common bugs page
* adamw to add a short note to each relevant wiki page (automatic
blockers and 'last minute' blockers) to explain the relationship
between them
* adamw to resolve all discontinuities
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* adamw (94)
* cmurf (62)
* kparal (29)
* zodbot (18)
* frantisekz (15)
* lruzicka (14)
* sumantrom (7)
* bcotton (7)
* satellit_ (7)
* CVN-68 (3)
* tflink (3)
* jlanda (2)
* coremodule (2)
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#fedora-meeting-1: FESCO (2019-09-16)
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Meeting started by contyk at 15:00:22 UTC. The full logs are available
at
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Meeting summary
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* init process (contyk, 15:00:28)
* #2223 gdesklets : exception to continue using python2 (contyk,
15:03:32)
* AGREED: The request is rejected (+0, 0, -8) (contyk, 15:07:04)
* Next week's chair (contyk, 15:07:30)
* ACTION: contyk will chair next meeting (contyk, 15:08:56)
* Open Floor (contyk, 15:09:06)
Meeting ended at 15:17:30 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* contyk will chair next meeting
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* contyk
* contyk will chair next meeting
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* contyk (30)
* zodbot (18)
* sgallagh (15)
* mhroncok (11)
* nirik (10)
* zbyszek (7)
* jforbes (5)
* bookwar (4)
* bcotton (3)
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Notification time stamped 2019-09-12 19:58:09 UTC
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#fedora-meeting-1: F31 Beta Readiness Meeting
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Meeting started by bcotton at 19:00:20 UTC. The full logs are available
at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2019-09-12/f31-beta-read…
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (bcotton, 19:00:33)
* Before each public release all of the groups participating the
development of Fedora's next release meet to make sure the release
is well-coordinated. (bcotton, 19:03:07)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Readiness_Meetings
(bcotton, 19:03:08)
* Current status (bcotton, 19:05:03)
* Fedora 31 Beta is go and will release on 2019-09-17 (bcotton,
19:05:04)
* Ambassadors & Advocates (bcotton, 19:05:44)
* Cloud WG (bcotton, 19:07:04)
* Design (bcotton, 19:07:55)
* Documentation (bcotton, 19:09:05)
* pbokoc is beginning the docs process for the F31 cycle (bcotton,
19:10:37)
* Contributors have expressed interest in writing release notes
(bcotton, 19:10:50)
* ACTION: adamw to create common bugs page (bcotton, 19:15:12)
* ACTION: Southern_Gentlem to create updated commonbugs link for
#fedora IRC channel (bcotton, 19:20:13)
* Fedora Project Leader (bcotton, 19:20:18)
* FESCo (bcotton, 19:21:21)
* FESCo ticket #2125 is still outstanding and may result in reverting
the "Set skip_if_unavailable default to false" change for F31 final
(bcotton, 19:26:04)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2125 (bcotton, 19:26:08)
* Infrastructure (bcotton, 19:27:46)
* infra is ready for bits (bcotton, 19:28:48)
* Marketing (bcotton, 19:29:46)
* We have not produced talking points for F31 Beta. Let's see if
anyone notices (bcotton, 19:30:24)
* Mindshare (bcotton, 19:31:15)
* QA (bcotton, 19:33:15)
* Release Engineering (bcotton, 19:35:49)
* Some non-blocking artifacts failed in the RC1 compose (bcotton,
19:38:33)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/releng/failed-composes/issue/149 (bcotton,
19:38:35)
* Server WG (bcotton, 19:39:14)
* Spins (bcotton, 19:40:12)
* Translations (bcotton, 19:40:51)
* the l10n team is starting weekly meetings (bcotton, 19:41:32)
* LINK:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/trans@lists.fedoraproject.org…
(bcotton, 19:41:34)
* Websites (bcotton, 19:41:51)
* Workstation (bcotton, 19:47:47)
* Workstation Live image is over the size limit. Workstation WG is
going to determine if the limit is still appropriate (bcotton,
19:48:39)
* Open floor (bcotton, 19:51:10)
Meeting ended at 19:58:09 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* adamw to create common bugs page
* Southern_Gentlem to create updated commonbugs link for #fedora IRC
channel
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* adamw
* adamw to create common bugs page
* Southern_Gentlem
* Southern_Gentlem to create updated commonbugs link for #fedora IRC
channel
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* bcotton (101)
* zodbot (16)
* adamw (14)
* mhroncok (12)
* nirik (11)
* mboddu (8)
* sgallagh (5)
* pbokoc (5)
* lruzicka (4)
* mkolman (4)
* relrod (4)
* alciregi (2)
* Southern_Gentlem (1)
* austinp (1)
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Notification time stamped 2019-09-12 18:48:07 UTC
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#fedora-meeting-1: F31 Beta Go/No-Go meeting
============================================
Meeting started by bcotton at 17:00:12 UTC. The full logs are available
at
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (bcotton, 17:00:21)
* Purpose of this meeting (bcotton, 17:03:38)
* Purpose of this meeting is to check whether or not F31 Beta is ready
for shipment, according to the release criteria. (bcotton,
17:03:40)
* This is determined in a few ways: (bcotton, 17:03:41)
* 1. No remaining blocker bugs (bcotton, 17:03:45)
* 2. Release candidate compose is available (bcotton, 17:03:47)
* 3. Test matrices for Beta are fully completed (bcotton, 17:03:48)
* Current status — blocker bugs (bcotton, 17:04:43)
* LINK:
https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/31/beta/buglist
(bcotton, 17:04:52)
* 2 Proposed Blockers (bcotton, 17:05:03)
* 3 Accepted Blockers (bcotton, 17:05:04)
* (1744266) Fedora 31 still using Fedora 30 backgrounds AND (1749086)
Needs updating for Fedora 31 background etc. (bcotton, 17:05:50)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1744266
(bcotton, 17:05:56)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1749086
(bcotton, 17:06:00)
* KDE and XFCE backgrounds are 'wrong', but not the same as F29 or
F30, so they do not violate the criteria (bcotton, 17:07:53)
* AGREED: BZs 1744266 and 1749086 satisfy the beta criteria and are
moved to Final blocker per the "The proposed final Fedora artwork
must be included and used as the background on release-blocking
desktops" criterion (bcotton, 17:09:01)
* bcotton has started a conversation with design about changing the
background deadline to avoid this (bcotton, 17:09:32)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/design/issue/657 (bcotton, 17:09:38)
* AGREED: BZ 1744266 and 1749086 AcceptedFreezeException (Beta)
(bcotton, 17:13:01)
* (1751438) Workstation x86_64 live image is over size target (bcotton,
17:15:21)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1751438
(bcotton, 17:15:23)
* Accepted Blocker, LiveCD, NEW (bcotton, 17:15:24)
* AGREED: 1751438 - this is a blocker per the criteria, but we have
the option of changing the target size (in consultation with
workstation WG) or invoking the last-minute blocker policy. we will
revisit these choices later in the meeting (bcotton, 17:25:42)
* (1750575) dnfdragora complains that dnf is locked by another process
after updates (bcotton, 17:26:12)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1750575
(bcotton, 17:26:14)
* Proposed Blocker, dnfdaemon, NEW (bcotton, 17:26:15)
* AGREED: 1750575 - RejectedBlocker (Beta) AcceptedFreezeException
(Beta) - Updates are installed so it is functional, but the error
message needs to be fixed (bcotton, 17:30:40)
* (1747408) Cannot upgrade to Fedora 31: package
exa-0.9.0-2.module_f31+5365+04413d87.x86_64 requires
libgit2.so.28()(64bit), but none of the providers can be installed
(bcotton, 17:31:17)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1747408
(bcotton, 17:31:19)
* Proposed Blocker, libgit2, NEW (bcotton, 17:31:20)
* LINK:
https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/449362/file/upgrade_run-dnf.log
<-- no mention of kate (adamw, 17:46:18)
* AGREED: 1747408 - RejectedBlocker (Beta) - No packages in the
default sets require libgit, so this is not a blocker (bcotton,
17:55:17)
* (1751438 revisited) Workstation x86_64 live image is over size target
(bcotton, 17:57:06)
* LINK:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org/…
(adamw, 17:58:24)
* AGREED: 1751438 - We will invoke the late blocker policy and not
block the beta release for this. Workstation WG will revisit the
size limit to see if it is still appropriate (bcotton, 18:15:31)
* Current status release candidate compose is available (bcotton,
18:16:06)
* RC is available (bcotton, 18:16:52)
* Current status — test matrices (bcotton, 18:18:08)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Fedora_31_Test_Results
(bcotton, 18:18:13)
* matrix coverage is mostly good with two exceptions: (adamw,
18:19:06)
* matrix coverage is mostly good with two exceptions: (adamw,
18:19:32)
* two of three Active Directory tests for Server have not been done
(adamw, 18:19:41)
* Cloud tests have not been run in any actual cloud (only with local
testcloud) (adamw, 18:20:00)
* also worth noting RC has only been around for ~22 hours (adamw,
18:21:07)
* cloud tests pass on ec2 (bcotton, 18:39:13)
* Go/No-Go decision (bcotton, 18:41:45)
* FESCo is go (bcotton, 18:42:08)
* Releng is go (bcotton, 18:43:08)
* QA is go (bcotton, 18:43:42)
* QA is go based on lack of outstanding blockers and sufficient matrix
coverage (adamw, 18:43:45)
* AGREED: Fedora 31 Beta is GO (bcotton, 18:44:12)
* Fedora 31 Beta will release on 2019-09-17 (bcotton, 18:44:13)
* ACTION: bcotton to announce decision (bcotton, 18:45:18)
* Open floor (bcotton, 18:45:24)
Meeting ended at 18:48:06 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* bcotton to announce decision
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* bcotton
* bcotton to announce decision
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* adamw (173)
* bcotton (130)
* nirik (76)
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