Notification time stamped 2019-09-04 13:05:06 UTC
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#fedora-meeting: Magazine editorial board
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Meeting started by stickster at 12:00:27 UTC. The full logs are
available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2019-09-04/magazine.2019-0…
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Meeting summary
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* Roll call (stickster, 12:00:30)
* Last week's stats (asamalik, 12:04:32)
* Week of August 26: > 63.5K pageviews -- slightly higher than the
previous two weeks (asamalik, 12:04:32)
* Pending review posts (asamalik, 12:06:45)
* LINK:
https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=pending&post_type=…
(asamalik, 12:06:45)
* nothing in Pending review (asamalik, 12:06:55)
* Drafts to review (asamalik, 12:07:15)
* LINK:
https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=draft&post_type=po…
(asamalik, 12:07:15)
* --- Performing storage management tasks in Cockpit --- (asamalik,
12:07:44)
* LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=29233&preview=true (asamalik,
12:07:50)
* ACTION: asamalik edit the Performing storage management tasks in
Cockpit article (asamalik, 12:10:55)
* ACTION: ryanlerch creates an image for the Performing storage
management tasks in Cockpit article (asamalik, 12:12:51)
* --- The Rsync Misconception --- (asamalik, 12:13:27)
* LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=28647&preview=true (asamalik,
12:13:31)
* stickster emailed the rsync article's author again, no reply since
last week (stickster, 12:13:38)
* Pitches to approve (asamalik, 12:15:33)
* LINK:
https://fedoramagazine.org/wp-admin/edit.php?post_status=pitch&post_type=po…
(asamalik, 12:15:33)
* --- Firefox 69 in Fedora --- (asamalik, 12:16:14)
* LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=29272&preview=true (asamalik,
12:16:19)
* ACTION: stickster find out if Firefox-69 is coming for F30/31, then
write Firefox article (stickster, 12:20:36)
* --- Multimedia codecs in Fedora --- (asamalik, 12:22:01)
* LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/?p=29166&preview=true (asamalik,
12:22:13)
* Additional article inputs (asamalik, 12:25:02)
* ACTION: ryanlerch will write a GNOME 3.34 announcement for Wednesday
(asamalik, 12:33:35)
* ACTION: asamalik to ask on the list for an article for Monday
(asamalik, 12:36:34)
* AGREED: PUBLISHING SCHEDULE: Fri Sep 6, Performing storage
management tasks in Cockpit (asamalik:edit/ryanlerch:image) -- Mon
Sep 9, Firefox 69 or something else (stickster) -- Wed Sep 11, GNOME
3.34 (ryanlerch) (asamalik, 12:36:52)
* new workflow (asamalik, 12:37:03)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine/issue/2 (asamalik,
12:37:07)
* ACTION: asamalik documents the process in the docs and sets the
board up (asamalik, 12:56:25)
* AGREED: We'll implement the new process in Taiga. (asamalik,
12:58:31)
* All other business (open floor) (asamalik, 13:00:26)
* new staging instance is setup, misc will follow up with details on
the list (misc, 13:03:32)
* LINK: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-magazine/ to be
exact (stickster, 13:04:15)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-magazine is the source (stickster,
13:04:34)
Meeting ended at 13:05:05 UTC.
Action Items
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* asamalik edit the Performing storage management tasks in Cockpit
article
* ryanlerch creates an image for the Performing storage management tasks
in Cockpit article
* stickster find out if Firefox-69 is coming for F30/31, then write
Firefox article
* ryanlerch will write a GNOME 3.34 announcement for Wednesday
* asamalik to ask on the list for an article for Monday
* asamalik documents the process in the docs and sets the board up
Action Items, by person
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* asamalik
* asamalik edit the Performing storage management tasks in Cockpit
article
* asamalik to ask on the list for an article for Monday
* asamalik documents the process in the docs and sets the board up
* ryanlerch
* ryanlerch creates an image for the Performing storage management
tasks in Cockpit article
* ryanlerch will write a GNOME 3.34 announcement for Wednesday
* stickster
* stickster find out if Firefox-69 is coming for F30/31, then write
Firefox article
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* asamalik (104)
* stickster (55)
* cverna (13)
* zodbot (11)
* misc (9)
* bcotton (5)
* ryanlerch (4)
* sgallagh (3)
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#fedora-blocker-review: F31-blocker-review
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Meeting started by adamw at 16:01:44 UTC. The full logs are available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2019-09-03/f31-bloc…
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (adamw, 16:01:44)
* Introduction (adamw, 16:06:18)
* Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have
bugs. (adamw, 16:06:18)
* We'll be following the process outlined at: (adamw, 16:06:18)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
(adamw, 16:06:20)
* The bugs up for review today are available at: (adamw, 16:06:20)
* LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (adamw,
16:06:23)
* The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (adamw,
16:06:24)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Basic_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:06:26)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_31_Beta_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:06:28)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_31_Final_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:06:30)
* for Beta, we have: (adamw, 16:07:06)
* 6 Proposed Blockers (adamw, 16:07:07)
* 3 Accepted Blockers (adamw, 16:07:08)
* 9 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:07:11)
* 2 Accepted Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:07:11)
* for Final, we have: (adamw, 16:07:22)
* 2 Proposed Blockers (adamw, 16:07:22)
* let's get started with proposed Beta blockers! (adamw, 16:07:32)
* (1745933) TypeError: Argument 1 does not allow None as a value
(adamw, 16:07:53)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1745933 (adamw,
16:07:54)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, POST (adamw, 16:07:54)
* AGREED: 1745933 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - as described this appears
to break several of the requirements in the Beta "Custom
partitioning" criterion,
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_31_Beta_Release_Criteria#Custom_parti…
(adamw, 16:13:04)
* (1748003) Epiphany does not render anything on RaspberryPi 2 (adamw,
16:13:15)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1748003 (adamw,
16:13:15)
* Proposed Blocker, epiphany, NEW (adamw, 16:13:15)
* AGREED: 1748003 - punt (delay decision) - this and other bugs
frantisekz has encountered on his raspberry pi 2 worry us, but we'd
like to delay the decision on them for a bit while we do more triage
with other testers and other systems to determine exactly what's
going on (adamw, 16:23:06)
* (1746563) g-i-s fails to run after Workstation and Silverblue
installs, even with SELinux permissive or disabled (adamw, 16:23:12)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1746563 (adamw,
16:23:12)
* Proposed Blocker, gnome-initial-setup, NEW (adamw, 16:23:12)
* AGREED: 1746563 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - clear violation of Basic
criterion "A system installed with a release-blocking desktop must
boot to a log in screen where it is possible to log in to a working
desktop using a user account created during installation or a 'first
boot' utility" (adamw, 16:26:10)
* (1737471) Cannot pull images from registry.fedoraproject.org (adamw,
16:26:21)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1737471 (adamw,
16:26:21)
* Proposed Blocker, golang, ASSIGNED (adamw, 16:26:21)
* AGREED: 1737471 - RejectedBlocker (Beta) AcceptedFreezeException
(Beta) - we agreed that while the criterion is still being kicked
around we don't think this absolutely needs to block Beta, we will
re-consider it for Beta or Final blocker if it's still a problem
when the criterion is decided. Accepted as a freeze exception issue,
however, as it is a significant problem we should try to avoid
(adamw, 16:38:25)
* (1745846) Review Request: f31-backgrounds - Fedora 31 default desktop
background (adamw, 16:39:03)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1745846 (adamw,
16:39:03)
* Proposed Blocker, Package Review, POST (adamw, 16:39:03)
* AGREED: 1745846 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - this kinda comes under
the already-accepted #1744266, but as it's been proposed separately,
we accept it under "The default desktop background must be different
from that of the last two stable releases" (adamw, 16:42:58)
* (1748401) systemd: need freeze exception for F31 beta (adamw,
16:43:11)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1748401 (adamw,
16:43:11)
* Proposed Blocker, systemd, MODIFIED (adamw, 16:43:11)
* AGREED: 1748401 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - this needs to be fixed as
part of the fix for already-accepted #1744266 (adamw, 16:50:33)
* proposed Beta freeze exceptions (adamw, 16:50:50)
* let's do the proposed Beta FEs next, as we're in the Beta freeze
(adamw, 16:50:57)
* (1718430) RPM 4.15 (adamw, 16:51:02)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1718430 (adamw,
16:51:02)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, Changes Tracking, ON_QA (adamw,
16:51:02)
* AGREED: the meeting hereby recognizes that sgallagh has invoked the
sacred Right To Say I Told You So and will follow the traditional
protocols (adamw, 16:56:01)
* AGREED: 1718430 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - this is obviously
a major and potentially disruptive change, but we're willing to
accept it as a) it's a Change, b) it's still quite early in Beta
freeze and c) the update was submitted before the initial freeze
date (but after the suddenly-changed one) (adamw, 17:01:03)
* (1737530) python2-fedmsg fails to install due to missing Python 2
dependencies (adamw, 17:01:23)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1737530 (adamw,
17:01:24)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, fedmsg, ON_QA (adamw, 17:01:24)
* LINK: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=1347980
looks alive... (sgallagh, 17:04:02)
* AGREED: 1737530 - RejectedFreezeException (Beta) - so far as we can
tell this is not on any of the release media, so we can just leave
the update process to handle it (adamw, 17:12:08)
* (1747436) lots of python2 packages should be obsoleted (adamw,
17:12:19)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1747436 (adamw,
17:12:19)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, fedora-obsolete-packages, MODIFIED
(adamw, 17:12:19)
* AGREED: 1747436 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - pushing this will
solve a lot of problems on upgrade to Fedora 31 Beta, so it's worth
an FE (adamw, 17:15:48)
* (1747415) mu cannot be installed: nothing provides
python3.7dist(matplotlib) < 3.1 needed by mu-1.0.2-3.fc31 (adamw,
17:16:05)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1747415 (adamw,
17:16:05)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, mu, ON_QA (adamw, 17:16:05)
* AGREED: 1747415 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - this is accepted
as it prevents the creation of a deliverable (the Python Classroom
Lab) (adamw, 17:18:55)
* (1746364) applying cgroup configuration for process caused
\"mountpoint for devices not found\"": OCI runtime error (adamw,
17:19:05)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1746364 (adamw,
17:19:05)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, podman, MODIFIED (adamw, 17:19:05)
* AGREED: 1746364 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - this is a
significant problem in a component that is important these days
(though not yet release-blocking), and affects implementation of an
approved Change (adamw, 17:24:58)
* (1739922) python2-fedmsg-meta-fedora-infrastructure fails to install
in Fedora rawhide (adamw, 17:25:13)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1739922 (adamw,
17:25:13)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions,
python-fedmsg-meta-fedora-infrastructure, ON_QA (adamw, 17:25:13)
* AGREED: 1739922 - RejectedFreezeException (Beta) - so far as we can
tell this is not on any of the release media, so we can just leave
the update process to handle it (adamw, 17:33:45)
* (1739928) python2-tw2-jqplugins-ui fails to install in Fedora rawhide
(adamw, 17:36:26)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1739928 (adamw,
17:36:27)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, python-tw2-jqplugins-ui, ON_QA (adamw,
17:36:27)
* AGREED: 1739928 - RejectedFreezeException (Beta) - so far as we can
tell this is not on any of the release media, so we can just leave
the update process to handle it. Note it was not submitted for
stable before the old freeze date (adamw, 17:40:14)
* (1739929) python2-tw2-jquery fails to install in Fedora 31 (adamw,
17:40:20)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1739929 (adamw,
17:40:21)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, python-tw2-jquery, ON_QA (adamw,
17:40:21)
* AGREED: 1739929 - RejectedFreezeException (Beta) - so far as we can
tell this is not on any of the release media, so we can just leave
the update process to handle it. Note it was not submitted for
stable before the old freeze date (adamw, 17:42:51)
* (1746584) GNOME systemd session start fails due to SELinux denial:
denied { start } for auid=n/a uid=XXX gid=XXX
path="/usr/lib/systemd/user/gnome-session-wayland@.target" (adamw,
17:43:07)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1746584 (adamw,
17:43:08)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, selinux-policy, POST (adamw, 17:43:08)
* AGREED: 1746584 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - it is not
entirely clear what the consequences of this failing are due to the
other g-i-s bug, but it is clearly a case of the default Workstation
install path not behaving as intended so we ought to fix it (adamw,
17:45:01)
* (1748463) GNOME 3.33.92 megaupdate should go in beta (adamw,
17:45:15)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1748463 (adamw,
17:45:15)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, gnome-shell, NEW (adamw, 17:45:15)
* AGREED: 1748463 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - we accept 3.33.92
as an FE for Beta in principle, so long as an update arrives in
reasonable time and passes sufficient tests prior to landing
(adamw, 17:53:19)
* proposed Final blockers (adamw, 17:55:36)
* (1747404) nomodeset is missing on installed system even if installed
with basic video driver (adamw, 17:56:33)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1747404 (adamw,
17:56:33)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (adamw, 17:56:33)
* AGREED: 1747404 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) AcceptedFreezeException
(Beta) - this is accepted as a Final blocker as a violation of "The
generic video driver option ('basic graphics mode'...) on all
release-blocking installer and live images must function as intended
(launching the installer or desktop and attempting to use a generic
driver)...", and as a Beta freeze exception as a significant
installer issue worth fixing (adamw, 18:09:51)
* (1747845) failure to resume gdm after blanking (when backlight goes
off) (adamw, 18:10:01)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1747845 (adamw,
18:10:01)
* Proposed Blocker, gdm, NEW (adamw, 18:10:01)
* AGREED: 1747845 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) AcceptedFreezeException
(Beta) - as currently described we accept this as a Final blocker
under criterion cited in comment #2, and as a Beta freeze exception
as a significant bug that can be encountered immediately after
install and so not fully fixable with an update (adamw, 18:17:50)
* Open floor (adamw, 18:19:01)
* belated note: coremodule is secretarializing (adamw, 18:22:44)
Meeting ended at 18:25:29 UTC.
Action Items
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Action Items, by person
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People Present (lines said)
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* adamw (257)
* cmurf (77)
* frantisekz (57)
* bcotton (52)
* kparal (45)
* sgallagh (44)
* coremodule (32)
* jlanda (25)
* zodbot (16)
* pwhalen (8)
* mclasen (2)
* nirik (1)
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#ansible-docs: Docs Working Group aka DaWGs
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Meeting started by acozine at 14:31:52 UTC. The full logs are available
at
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Meeting summary
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* today's meeting (acozine, 14:32:02)
* AGREED: today's DaWGs meeting is folded into the Big PR Review Day
on #ansible-community (acozine, 14:39:07)
Meeting ended at 14:40:11 UTC.
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* (none)
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* zodbot (5)
* Xaroth (3)
* alongchamps (2)
* gundalow (1)
* felixfontein (1)
* samccann (1)
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* cyberpear (1)
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