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#ansible-docs: Documentation Working Group supplemental - docsit split
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Meeting started by samccann at 15:30:40 UTC. The full logs are available
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Meeting summary
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* opening chatter (samccann, 15:30:51)
* LINK: https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/72287 (dmsimard,
15:37:24)
* here is a WIP for "ansible --version" to display both the
ansible-core and ansible versions
https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/72287 (samccann, 15:37:43)
* ACTION: samccann acozine - ask for a way to show the Ansible version
along with core version installed (samccann, 15:44:54)
* can use a combination of ansible --version (to show core version
once the pr is merged) and pip show ansible for the Ansible version
(samccann, 15:46:25)
* will need a page or paragraph somewhere that says "here's how you
tell which versions you have installed" (samccann, 15:48:40)
* symlinks likely will be bad for SEO but generating two versions of
the docsite from the same sources could work (along with other
limitations) (abadger1999, 15:57:16)
* Known things that would have to change to maintain good SEO with
duplicate content are the /latest/ url and canonical url which is
specified in the conf.py (abadger1999, 15:58:08)
* AGREED: We will duplicate user guide on Ansible docs and
ansible-core docs with appropriate SEO optimizations (samccann,
16:01:10)
* ACTION: samccann to ask internal SEO expert how to handle duplicat
content - is cannonical url enough? (samccann, 16:01:32)
* moving ansible-core docs to a new docsite (samccann, 16:01:48)
* ACTION: samccann to discuss ansible-core having its own docsite w/
core team (samccann, 16:05:45)
* ansible-core docs with no collection index (samccann, 16:07:51)
* while it is not ideal that you can't find anything about
networking/cloud/security on the ansible-core docsite, this is an
short-term fix until we get to a docsite based on personas and a
better way to get between all the information (samccann, 16:13:58)
* moving non-plugin collections docs to other repo(s) (samccann,
16:14:53)
* see the section here for an overview -
https://hackmd.io/iDEyihLqRtWnjtOUd3pNYQ (samccann, 16:15:06)
* and see here for some real detail -
https://hackmd.io/pPeMLaFYSt2W8RAqm-ZkXA (samccann, 16:15:27)
* where do we publish ansible.builtin docs (samccann, 16:16:49)
* we need to track ansible version as 3.X since it will be one docset
to cover 3.0, 3.1, etc (aka semver) (samccann, 16:36:41)
* can we have `ansible-3.x', `ansible-core-3.0`, etc in the version
dropdowns so we have one docsite with both sets of info? (samccann,
16:39:27)
* ACTION: samccann to create better mockups of separate /ansible/ vs
/ansible-core docsites for review (samccann, 17:03:09)
* LINK: https://docs.ansible.com/ansible/devel/collections/index.html
(acozine, 17:10:06)
* we will need separate conf.py to do all this... tho might be done w/
builder instead of different repos. Intersphinx might help with M()
between the docsites some (samccann, 17:21:31)
* need something on ansible-core collection index to say 'go to
ansible for much more' (samccann, 17:29:52)
* ACTION: acozine to create a PR with a page about "figuring out
versions" (acozine, 17:45:02)
* ACTION: samccan to hack more mockups, maybe play w/ intersphinx
(samccann, 17:46:41)
Meeting ended at 17:48:13 UTC.
Action Items
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* samccann acozine - ask for a way to show the Ansible version along
with core version installed
* samccann to ask internal SEO expert how to handle duplicat content -
is cannonical url enough?
* samccann to discuss ansible-core having its own docsite w/ core team
* samccann to create better mockups of separate /ansible/ vs
/ansible-core docsites for review
* acozine to create a PR with a page about "figuring out versions"
* samccan to hack more mockups, maybe play w/ intersphinx
Action Items, by person
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* acozine
* samccann acozine - ask for a way to show the Ansible version along
with core version installed
* acozine to create a PR with a page about "figuring out versions"
* samccann
* samccann acozine - ask for a way to show the Ansible version along
with core version installed
* samccann to ask internal SEO expert how to handle duplicat content -
is cannonical url enough?
* samccann to discuss ansible-core having its own docsite w/ core team
* samccann to create better mockups of separate /ansible/ vs
/ansible-core docsites for review
* **UNASSIGNED**
* samccan to hack more mockups, maybe play w/ intersphinx
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Notification time stamped 2020-12-10 16:41:52 UTC
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#fedora-meeting-1: Infrastructure (2020-12-10)
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Meeting started by mobrien at 16:00:48 UTC. The full logs are available
at
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Meeting summary
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* Agenda is at: https://board.net/p/fedora-infra (mobrien, 16:00:48)
* About our team: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/ (mobrien,
16:00:48)
* aloha (mobrien, 16:00:49)
* New folks introductions (mobrien, 16:03:40)
* This is a place where people who are interested in Fedora
Infrastructure can introduce themselves (mobrien, 16:03:40)
* Getting Started Guide:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/GettingStarted
(mobrien, 16:03:40)
* magic eight ball says: (mobrien, 16:09:15)
* 2020-12-03 - nirik (mobrien, 16:09:16)
* 2020-12-10 - mobrien (mobrien, 16:10:54)
* 2020-12-17 - mkonecny (mobrien, 16:10:54)
* 2020-12-24 - canceled (mobrien, 16:10:54)
* 2020-12-31 - canceled (mobrien, 16:10:54)
* 2021-01-07 - ? (mobrien, 16:10:54)
* 2021-01-07 - siddharthvipul (mobrien, 16:11:10)
* announcements and information (mobrien, 16:12:24)
* CPE Sustaining EU-hours team has a Monday through Friday 30 minute
meeting going through tickets at 1030 Europe/paris in
#centos-meeting (mobrien, 16:12:24)
* CPE Sustaining NA-hours team has a Monday through Friday 30 minute
meeting going through tickets at 1800 UTC in #fedora-admin
(mobrien, 16:12:24)
* Datacenter move is over, but some items still need to be done: see
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/2020-post-datacenter-move-kno…
(mobrien, 16:12:24)
* no meetings on December 24th and 31st (mobrien, 16:12:26)
* Container and Flatpak builds are now also built on AArch64 on
production (mobrien, 16:13:18)
* most builders moved to f33, arm left to do. (nirik, 16:14:43)
* Oncall (mobrien, 16:18:37)
* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Oncall (mobrien,
16:18:37)
* mobrien is oncall for 2020-12-03 to 2020-12-10 (mobrien, 16:18:37)
* noone is oncall for 2020-12-17 to 2021-01-07 (please file a ticket)
(mobrien, 16:18:37)
* Summary of last week: (mobrien, 16:19:30)
* Monitoring discussion [nirik] (mobrien, 16:22:54)
* https://nagios.fedoraproject.org/nagios (mobrien, 16:22:54)
* Go over existing out items and fix (mobrien, 16:22:54)
* Open Floor (mobrien, 16:33:23)
Meeting ended at 16:41:52 UTC.
Action Items
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Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
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Notification time stamped 2020-12-10 15:55:28 UTC
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#ansible-meeting: Ansible Core Public IRC Meeting
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Meeting started by mkrizek at 15:00:18 UTC. The full logs are available
at
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Meeting summary
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* agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/570 (mkrizek,
15:00:32)
* https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/72711 (mkrizek, 15:04:06)
* LINK: https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/72711 should go to
community.general, based on precedent, unless there's very good
guidelines on what can go into core. Otherwise, it's a great
addition. (cyberpear, 15:04:43)
* ACTION: mkrizek to discuss with the community team about better
communicating a process of accepting new plugins into core
(mkrizek, 15:22:44)
* AGREED: `version_sort` to go to `community.general` (mkrizek,
15:26:25)
* Open floor (mkrizek, 15:27:29)
* LINK: https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/72625 maybe?
(felixfontein, 15:28:35)
Meeting ended at 15:55:28 UTC.
Action Items
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* mkrizek to discuss with the community team about better communicating
a process of accepting new plugins into core
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* mkrizek
* mkrizek to discuss with the community team about better
communicating a process of accepting new plugins into core
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
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Notification time stamped 2020-12-09 20:53:13 UTC
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#ansible-community: Ansible Community Meeting
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Meeting started by felixfontein at 19:02:25 UTC. The full logs are
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Meeting summary
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* Updates (felixfontein, 19:03:03)
* Work is progressing on moving Collection repos to Azure Pipelines
(AZP)
https://dev.azure.com/ansible/community.crypto/_build?definitionId=21&_a=su…
shows AZP running against `community.crypto`
https://github.com/ansible-collections/overview/issues/124 will
track the overall progress. I'm writing docs as I go (gundalow,
19:04:42)
* ansible-base 2.10.4rc1 has been released (felixfontein, 19:06:12)
* abadger1999 has an email to send to red hat legal Re: licensing of
collection contents. Comment after the meeting if you see anything
that should be addressed/changed:
https://gist.github.com/abadger/af41787b30bc678876efdca81bbbc66c
(abadger1999, 19:07:54)
* discussion of guidelines for including new collections into Ansible
(felixfontein, 19:14:10)
* 1. What type of contributions are accepted (gundalow, 19:18:13)
* ACTION: wordsmith and add The ``CONTRIBUTING.md`` (or ``README.md``)
MUST state what types of contributions (PRs, feature requests,) are
accepted and any relevant contributor guidance. Issues (bugs and
feature request) reports must always be accepted (gundalow,
19:23:37)
* ACTION: update issue_template to include CONTRIBUTING.md (gundalow,
19:23:58)
* 2. Inclusion of a new collection in the Ansible package is ultimately
at the discretion of the Ansible community review committee
(gundalow, 19:25:18)
* AGREED: Add "Inclusion of a new collection in the Ansible package is
ultimately at the discretion of the Ansible community review
committee. Every rejected candidate will get feedback. Differences
of opinion should be taken to the community irc meeting for
discussion and a final vote."? (felixfontein, 19:32:23)
* running PR for all the changes we're approving today:
https://github.com/ansible-collections/overview/pull/135/files#diff-dacab21…
(abadger1999, 19:38:07)
* 3. MUST be in Galaxy + have a README.md (gundalow, 19:38:22)
* LINK: https://github.com/ansible-collections/overview/pull/134 |
open, created 2020-12-09T18:56:11Z by gundalow: MUST be published to
Galaxy + README.md (github-linkbot, 19:38:35)
* AGREED: MUST be in Galaxy + have a README.md (#134) (gundalow,
19:42:40)
* 4. MUST changelogs (gundalow, 19:43:15)
* AGREED: MUST have a changelog (gundalow, 19:53:54)
* We like the idea of requiring chaneglogs that docs.ansible.com can
build, though currently there are a few projects using manual or
reno to generate changelogs. We need to update reno to generate
changelog in the correct format (gundalow, 20:00:15)
* examples of manual entries, Source:
https://github.com/ansible-community/ansible-build-data/blob/main/2.10/chan…
(abadger1999, 20:01:24)
* examples of manual entries, Rendered to rst:
https://github.com/ansible-community/ansible-build-data/blob/main/2.10/CHAN…
(abadger1999, 20:01:45)
* 5. BSD License for module_utils should be 2 clause (gundalow,
20:02:21)
* LINK: https://github.com/ansible-collections/overview/pull/133
(gundalow, 20:02:29)
* LINK: https://github.com/ansible-collections/overview/pull/133 |
open, created 2020-12-09T17:42:24Z by abadger: BSD License for
module_utils should be 2 clause (github-linkbot, 20:02:29)
* LINK: https://github.com/ansible-collections/overview/pull/133/files
(abadger1999, 20:02:40)
* AGREED: https://github.com/ansible-collections/overview/pull/133
(gundalow, 20:05:55)
* 6. Collections requirements for role or playbook-focused collections
(gundalow, 20:06:58)
* Background
https://github.com/ansible-collections/overview/issues/127
(gundalow, 20:07:11)
* We will revisit this topic (gundalow, 20:17:00)
* Other items (gundalow, 20:17:08)
* Approval of the checklist (felixfontein, 20:28:12)
* AGREED: Start allowing new collection submissions and approvals
based on the current checklist:
https://github.com/ansible-collections/overview/blob/main/collection_requir…
(felixfontein, 20:28:15)
* LINK:
https://github.com/ansible-community/ansible-build-data/pull/42 |
open, created 2020-12-09T15:07:50Z by ganeshrn: Add ansible.utils to
collection list (github-linkbot, 20:28:37)
* there seems to be some content in the checklist that wasn't properly
approved during the last meeting, so we have to do another iteration
on th(is|ese) problematic topic(s) (felixfontein, 20:43:09)
* Open Floor (felixfontein, 20:45:17)
* I'm working on adding support to add 'new plugin' notifications for
test and filter plugins, and 'new role'/'new playbook' notifications
to changelogs. if someone is interested in it, PTAL and comment:
https://github.com/ansible-community/antsibull-changelog/pull/48
(felixfontein, 20:50:14)
* LINK:
https://github.com/ansible-community/antsibull-changelog/pull/48 |
open, created 2020-11-26T21:08:55Z by felixfontein: [WIP] Add
support for test and filter plugins, roles and playbooks
(github-linkbot, 20:50:17)
* I'm working on a small framework for making open_url()-based plugins
(or modules) easier to test. reviews/comments welcome!
https://github.com/ansible-collections/community.internal_test_tools/pull/24
(felixfontein, 20:50:57)
* LINK:
https://github.com/ansible-collections/community.internal_test_tools/pull/24
| open, created 2020-12-07T06:52:11Z by felixfontein: Add open_url
test framework (github-linkbot, 20:50:59)
Meeting ended at 20:53:13 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* wordsmith and add The ``CONTRIBUTING.md`` (or ``README.md``) MUST
state what types of contributions (PRs, feature requests,) are
accepted and any relevant contributor guidance. Issues (bugs and
feature request) reports must always be accepted
* update issue_template to include CONTRIBUTING.md
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* **UNASSIGNED**
* wordsmith and add The ``CONTRIBUTING.md`` (or ``README.md``) MUST
state what types of contributions (PRs, feature requests,) are
accepted and any relevant contributor guidance. Issues (bugs and
feature request) reports must always be accepted
* update issue_template to include CONTRIBUTING.md
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Notification time stamped 2020-12-09 17:58:40 UTC
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#fedora-meeting-1: fedora_coreos_meeting
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Meeting started by dustymabe at 16:31:23 UTC. The full logs are
available at
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Meeting summary
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* roll call (dustymabe, 16:31:32)
* Action items from last meeting (dustymabe, 16:34:53)
* jlebon and dustymabe have been working with the systemd team on the
hostname issue. Unfortunately the simple revert didn't completely
solve the problem. Will discuss more in dedicated meeting topic.
(dustymabe, 16:35:57)
* jlebon started conversation about rpmdb path move -- we're waiting
for feedback from the rpm team (jlebon, 16:38:30)
* forgot to open the ticket with regards to RH Summit (fortunately
we've still got quite a few months) (red_beard, 16:39:14)
* ACTION: red_beard to investigate forklifting FCOS artifacts into OVH
to see if they work (dustymabe, 16:41:16)
* ACTION: red_beard to open a ticket to strategize on FCOS RH summit
presence (dustymabe, 16:41:19)
* delayed stable release / pending F33 migration (dustymabe, 16:41:39)
* Unfortunately the simple fix that we thought would solve every
problem had a weird twist and we're working through the options with
the systemd team still. All of this is covered in detail in
https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/649#issuecomment-741…
(dustymabe, 16:45:24)
* Mount /boot as RO by default (dustymabe, 16:46:13)
* LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/652
(dustymabe, 16:46:22)
* LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/694
(travier, 16:48:39)
* open floor (dustymabe, 16:55:47)
* twitter @coreos handle (dustymabe, 16:58:13)
* LINK:
https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/inactive-twitter-accounts
(red_beard, 17:09:49)
* LINK: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curators_of_Sweden on top of 6
(lucab, 17:39:20)
* AGREED: we'll run a twitter poll to get more information from the
followers to see if we can get some much needed data to help inform
our decision on twitter handles (dustymabe, 17:53:10)
* LINK:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/coreos@lists.fedoraproject.or…
(jbrooks, 17:57:21)
Meeting ended at 17:58:40 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* red_beard to investigate forklifting FCOS artifacts into OVH to see if
they work
* red_beard to open a ticket to strategize on FCOS RH summit presence
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* red_beard
* red_beard to investigate forklifting FCOS artifacts into OVH to see
if they work
* red_beard to open a ticket to strategize on FCOS RH summit presence
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
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* PanGoat (24)
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