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#ansible-docs: Documentation Working Group aka DaWGs
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Meeting started by samccann at 15:00:57 UTC. The full logs are available
at
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Meeting summary
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* Action Item updates: (samccann, 15:06:11)
* open - Create tracking issue 'somewhere' to track all the
collections that SHOULD consider using true/false boolean in
examples (tho some may not want to for $REASONS) (samccann,
15:06:24)
* resolved - merged antsibull-docs update to docs requirements. Will
need to schedule remaining requirements updates for later this
Autumn (samccann, 15:07:15)
* resolved - collection owners fixed a few broken docs links in their
Galaxy docsite links etc (samccann, 15:08:04)
* Hacktoberfest (samccann, 15:14:37)
* we hope to participate in Hactoberfest by creating a batch of
easy-fix issues to help us clean up the docs. See
https://hacktoberfest.com/participation/ for what this is
(samccann, 15:15:11)
* initial brainstorming ideas of what we could fix -
https://hackmd.io/gNQ2TQW8T4ilcZc8JAM5fQ (samccann, 15:16:29)
* ACTION: samccann to ask community team if someone has rights to add
hacktoberfest topic to all collections (esp new ones as this was
done last year for existing collections) (samccann, 15:22:59)
* should also consider some repos won't want to participate in
hacktoberfest as it does trigger some 'spam' PRs. (samccann,
15:23:49)
* Documentation updates (samccann, 15:28:42)
* LINK:
https://github.com/ansible-collections/community.hashi_vault/pull/299
(briantist, 15:30:18)
* LINK:
https://docs.ansible.com/ansible/devel/collections/community/hashi_vault/in…
(briantist, 15:30:18)
* ACTION: samccann to open issue(s) to suggest collection owners link
in their changelogs (such as
https://github.com/ansible-collections/community.hashi_vault/pull/299)
(samccann, 15:30:54)
* IF we have more markup languages for docs in other projects, they
must have a reasonable display on github (samccann, 15:34:04)
* any markup has to also display well on docs.ansible.com as a
priority (samccann, 15:34:28)
* one option - we could recommend RST for ansible projects, but allow
MD if it already exists, etc. (samccann, 15:44:11)
* Open Floor (samccann, 15:47:21)
* generally leaning toward 'recommending RST but allowing MD
(samccann, 15:50:22)
* ACTION: samccann to consider an 'open docs hr' later in the week to
regularly interact with docs contributors in a friendlier way than
the expert details that happen in DaWGs meetings (samccann,
15:56:18)
* consider it as a possible optional separate DaWGs meeting
(samccann, 15:57:19)
* ACTION: samccann -t to add a link to a separate intro to the agenda
for welcome/here's what you need to know/ etc so newcomers can
prepare. (samccann, 15:58:34)
Meeting ended at 16:00:28 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* samccann to ask community team if someone has rights to add
hacktoberfest topic to all collections (esp new ones as this was done
last year for existing collections)
* samccann to open issue(s) to suggest collection owners link in their
changelogs (such as
https://github.com/ansible-collections/community.hashi_vault/pull/299)
* samccann to consider an 'open docs hr' later in the week to regularly
interact with docs contributors in a friendlier way than the expert
details that happen in DaWGs meetings
* samccann -t to add a link to a separate intro to the agenda for
welcome/here's what you need to know/ etc so newcomers can prepare.
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* samccann
* samccann to ask community team if someone has rights to add
hacktoberfest topic to all collections (esp new ones as this was
done last year for existing collections)
* samccann to open issue(s) to suggest collection owners link in their
changelogs (such as
https://github.com/ansible-collections/community.hashi_vault/pull/299)
* samccann to consider an 'open docs hr' later in the week to
regularly interact with docs contributors in a friendlier way than
the expert details that happen in DaWGs meetings
* samccann -t to add a link to a separate intro to the agenda for
welcome/here's what you need to know/ etc so newcomers can prepare.
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
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#fedora-blocker-review: F37-blocker-review
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Meeting started by adamw at 16:00:54 UTC. The full logs are available at
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (adamw, 16:00:58)
* Introduction (adamw, 16:09:45)
* Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have
bugs. (adamw, 16:09:50)
* We'll be following the process outlined at: (adamw, 16:09:54)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
(adamw, 16:09:58)
* The bugs up for review today are available at: (adamw, 16:10:02)
* LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (adamw,
16:10:05)
* The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (adamw,
16:10:09)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Basic_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:10:12)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_37_Beta_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:10:15)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_37_Final_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:10:19)
* for Final, we have: (adamw, 16:10:29)
* 3 Proposed Blockers (adamw, 16:10:34)
* 6 Accepted Blockers (adamw, 16:10:38)
* 1 Accepted Previous Release Blockers (adamw, 16:10:40)
* 6 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:10:42)
* coremodule will secretarialize (adamw, 16:12:03)
* Proposed Final blockers (adamw, 16:12:14)
* (2125439) screencast doesn't record the top layer (adamw, 16:12:57)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2125439 (adamw,
16:12:58)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/910 (adamw,
16:12:59)
* Proposed Blocker, gnome-shell, NEW (adamw, 16:13:01)
* Ticket vote: FinalFreezeException (+1,0,-0) (+nielsenb) (adamw,
16:13:05)
* this bug was fixed by
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2022-def12b4f54
according to the comments, we will close it (adamw, 16:17:49)
* (2127192) Update gnome-shell-extension-background-logo to 43.0
(adamw, 16:18:14)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2127192 (adamw,
16:18:21)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/914 (adamw,
16:18:22)
* Proposed Blocker, gnome-shell-extension-background-logo, NEW
(adamw, 16:18:24)
* Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+2,0,-0) (+asciiwolf, +nielsenb) (adamw,
16:18:25)
* Ticket vote: FinalFreezeException (+2,0,-0) (+asciiwolf, +nielsenb)
(adamw, 16:18:27)
* AGREED: 2127192 - punt (delay decision) on blocker status,
AcceptedFreezeException - we agreed the justification for taking
this as a blocker is quite weak, and it shouldn't be necessary to
consider it as the fix is already prepared. We grant it a freeze
exception just in case the update doesn't make it stable before
Final freeze (adamw, 16:28:12)
* (2121106) Czech qwerty layout configured in anaconda, but qwertz
layout used in disk unlock and in VT console (adamw, 16:28:38)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2121106 (adamw,
16:28:42)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/867 (adamw,
16:28:46)
* Proposed Blocker, systemd, NEW (adamw, 16:28:49)
* Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+0,0,-1) (-nielsenb) (adamw, 16:28:59)
* Ticket vote: FinalFreezeException (+0,0,-1) (-nielsenb) (adamw,
16:29:00)
* AGREED: 2121106 - RejectedBlocker AcceptedFreezeException - with the
new details about how specific this bug is (you have to manually
choose this exact combination of X layouts to trigger it), and the
difficulty of fixing it fully, we agreed this is too conditional of
a violation to count as a blocker. However, we grant it a freeze
exception so we have time to land at least the moderate improvement
that should be possible (adamw, 16:40:45)
* Proposed Final freeze exceptions (adamw, 16:41:01)
* (2124830) geo location not working: Anaconda didn't set default local
locale (adamw, 16:41:31)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2124830 (adamw,
16:41:34)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/908 (adamw,
16:41:45)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, anaconda, POST (adamw, 16:41:46)
* AGREED: 2124830 - AcceptedFreezeException (Final) - this is accepted
as an FE as a broken feature in the installer that can't be fixed
with an update. (adamw, 16:47:35)
* (2117256) Obsolete packages that used to require Python 3.10 but are
gone in Fedora 37 (adamw, 16:47:47)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2117256 (adamw,
16:47:49)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/847 (adamw,
16:47:53)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, fedora-obsolete-packages, ASSIGNED
(adamw, 16:47:54)
* AGREED: 2117256 - AcceptedFreezeException (Final) - this is a
regularly-scheduled clean up, and it helps with upgrade tests during
the freeze period (adamw, 16:52:40)
* we already approved 2127192 (adamw, 16:52:58)
* (2125426) some vpn tunnels aren't shown (adamw, 16:53:03)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2125426 (adamw,
16:53:15)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/911 (adamw,
16:53:17)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, NetworkManager-openvpn, NEW (adamw,
16:53:17)
* LINK: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/issues/5845 is
the upstream issue (adamw, 16:56:34)
* AGREED: 2125426 - AcceptedFreezeException (Final) - this is annoying
for users with lots of VPNs, and would be present in the Workstation
live so cannot be fully addressed with an update (for people who
like to configure 8+ VPNs in a live environment, at least) (adamw,
17:03:01)
* (2003425) python-jep-4.0.3 is available (adamw, 17:03:15)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2003425 (adamw,
17:03:19)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/912 (adamw,
17:03:23)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, python-jep, NEW (adamw, 17:03:32)
* AGREED: 2003425 - AcceptedFreezeException - this is accepted because
the package currently fails to install (that'll be the next proposed
FE we vote on) and we're fine with a minor version upgrade being
done while fixing the package to be installable (adamw, 17:09:24)
* (2098978) F37FailsToInstall: python3-jep (adamw, 17:09:26)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2098978 (adamw,
17:09:29)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/913 (adamw,
17:09:32)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, python-jep, NEW (adamw, 17:09:38)
* AGREED: 2098978 - AcceptedFreezeException (Final) - we generally
approve fails-to-install bugs, so the final frozen package set is as
sane as possible and to smooth the upgrade path during the freeze
(adamw, 17:14:26)
* Accepted Final blockers (adamw, 17:14:43)
* as a reminder, we are not re-voting these, we are checking progress
on fixing them (adamw, 17:14:54)
* 2088113 is ON_QA, just needs testing of the fix (adamw, 17:15:13)
* (2123494) Unable to set up enterprise account with
gnome-initial-setup, clicking continue does not join the domain
(adamw, 17:15:23)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2123494 (adamw,
17:15:26)
* Accepted Blocker, gnome-initial-setup, ASSIGNED (adamw, 17:15:28)
* current status on this one is that there's a test scratch build
which may fix the remaining issues, it needs testing (adamw,
17:17:26)
* ACTION: adamw to try and bodge up an openQA test at least far enough
to test the scratch build (adamw, 17:18:27)
* (2121110) GNOME Initial Setup uses the English keyboard, instead of
the default keyboard (adamw, 17:22:58)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2121110 (adamw,
17:23:01)
* Accepted Blocker, gnome-shell, ASSIGNED (adamw, 17:23:03)
* a fix was attempted for this, but per kparal, didn't work. we are
now waiting for devs to try another fix (adamw, 17:27:40)
* (2121944) greenboot-grub2-set-counter.service fails on 38 IoT with
"cannot open `/boot/grub2/grubenv.new`: No such file or directory."
(adamw, 17:27:45)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2121944 (adamw,
17:27:47)
* Accepted Blocker, greenboot, NEW (adamw, 17:27:49)
* this is just sitting waiting for a dev to fix it (adamw, 17:28:54)
* ACTION: adamw to poke pbrobinson and see if he can provoke any
movement on this (adamw, 17:29:05)
* (2049849) Windows with bitlocker enabled can't be booted, needs to use
bootnext instead of chainloader (adamw, 17:31:49)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2049849 (adamw,
17:31:52)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/695 (adamw,
17:31:54)
* Accepted Blocker, grub2, NEW (adamw, 17:31:58)
* LINK:
https://meetbot-raw.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2022-03-28/f36-…
(bcotton, 17:33:57)
* ACTION: adamw to propose changing the criteria to except the case we
are not currently able to support (adamw, 17:35:40)
* (2123274) [abrt] totem: nouveau_pushbuf_data(): totem killed by
SIGABRT (adamw, 17:36:11)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2123274 (adamw,
17:36:13)
* Accepted Blocker, mesa, NEW (adamw, 17:36:17)
* we are waiting for maintainers to backport the proposed fix for
this, adamw has added a comment (adamw, 17:39:37)
* Open floor (adamw, 17:42:31)
* bcotton poked Fedora CoreOS folks about addition to blocking images.
waiting for them to figure it out (bcotton, 17:43:30)
Meeting ended at 17:47:55 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* adamw to try and bodge up an openQA test at least far enough to test
the scratch build
* adamw to poke pbrobinson and see if he can provoke any movement on
this
* adamw to propose changing the criteria to except the case we are not
currently able to support
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* adamw
* adamw to try and bodge up an openQA test at least far enough to test
the scratch build
* adamw to poke pbrobinson and see if he can provoke any movement on
this
* adamw to propose changing the criteria to except the case we are not
currently able to support
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
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* geraldosimiao (20)
* zodbot (18)
* lruzicka (16)
* coremodule (10)
* frantisekz (7)
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#fedora-meeting-3: Infrastructure (2022-09-15)
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Meeting started by dtometzki at 16:00:37 UTC. The full logs are
available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-3/2022-09-15/infrastructur…
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Meeting summary
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* Agenda is at: https://board.net/p/fedora-infra (dtometzki, 16:00:38)
* About our team: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/ (dtometzki,
16:00:38)
* Fedora Infra documentation: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/infra
(dtometzki, 16:00:38)
* greetings! (dtometzki, 16:00:40)
* New folks introductions (dtometzki, 16:02:31)
* This is a place where people who are interested in Fedora
Infrastructure can introduce themselves (dtometzki, 16:02:31)
* Getting Started Guide:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/GettingStarted
(dtometzki, 16:02:31)
* Next chair (dtometzki, 16:05:44)
* magic eight ball says: (dtometzki, 16:05:44)
* chair 2022-09-22 - phsmoura (dtometzki, 16:05:44)
* chair 2022-09-29 - eddiejenningsjr (dtometzki, 16:05:44)
* chair 2022-10-06 - ??? (dtometzki, 16:05:44)
* chair 2022-10-06 - petebuffon (dtometzki, 16:08:18)
* announcements and information (dtometzki, 16:09:14)
* CPE Infra&Releng EU-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30
minute meeting going through tickets at 1030 Europe/paris in
#centos-meeting (dtometzki, 16:09:14)
* CPE Infra&Releng NA-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30
minute meeting going through tickets at 1800 UTC in
#fedora-meeting-3 (dtometzki, 16:09:14)
* If your team wants support from the Fedora Program Management Team,
file an isssue:
https://pagure.io/fedora-pgm/pgm_team/issues?template=support_request
(dtometzki, 16:09:14)
* please help us with improving contribution to fedora infra
https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/improving-contribution-to-fedora-inf…
(dtometzki, 16:09:16)
* oncall should also handling #fedora-releng pings if possible
(dtometzki, 16:09:19)
* Fedora 37 Beta freeze now in effect! (dtometzki, 16:09:21)
* Red Hat learning day tomorrow, some folks could be unavailable
(mkonecny, 16:11:19)
* Fedora 37 beta out, download it today! (nirik, 16:11:31)
* Oncall (dtometzki, 16:12:12)
* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Oncall (dtometzki,
16:12:12)
* https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/day_to_day_fedora/
(dtometzki, 16:12:12)
* mobrien is on call from 2022-09-09 to 2022-09-15 (dtometzki,
16:12:12)
* dtometzski is on call from 2022-09-16 to 2022-09-22 (dtometzki,
16:12:13)
* eddiejenningsjr is on call from 2022-09-23 to 2022-09-29
(dtometzki, 16:12:15)
* Summary of last week: (from current oncall ) (dtometzki, 16:14:35)
* Monitoring discussion [nirik] (dtometzki, 16:16:26)
* https://nagios.fedoraproject.org/nagios (dtometzki, 16:16:26)
* Go over existing out items and fix (dtometzki, 16:16:26)
* Revisit blocked tickets (dtometzki, 16:20:17)
* Check if any blocked ticket is unblocked (dtometzki, 16:20:17)
* LINK:
https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues?status=Open&tags=blocked&pri…
(dtometzki, 16:20:17)
* Upcoming learning topics (dtometzki, 16:23:48)
* Fedora Infra backlog refinement (dtometzki, 16:33:45)
* Refine oldest tickets on Fedora Infra tracker (dtometzki, 16:33:45)
* LINK:
https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues?status=Open&order_key=last_u…
(dtometzki, 16:33:45)
* LINK: https://mdapi.fedoraproject.org/rawhide/pkg/redeclipse
(nirik, 16:37:06)
* Open Floor (dtometzki, 16:59:39)
Meeting ended at 17:01:14 UTC.
Action Items
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Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
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