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#fedora-blocker-review: F38-blocker-review
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Meeting started by adamw at 16:01:10 UTC. The full logs are available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2023-04-03/f38-bloc…
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (adamw, 16:01:16)
* Introduction (adamw, 16:06:45)
* Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have
bugs. (adamw, 16:06:51)
* We'll be following the process outlined at: (adamw, 16:06:53)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
(adamw, 16:06:55)
* The bugs up for review today are available at: (adamw, 16:06:58)
* LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (adamw,
16:07:01)
* The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (adamw,
16:07:03)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Basic_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:07:06)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_38_Beta_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:07:09)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_38_Final_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:07:11)
* for Final, we have: (adamw, 16:07:25)
* 2 Proposed Blockers (adamw, 16:07:29)
* 3 Accepted Blockers (adamw, 16:07:32)
* 3 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:07:34)
* 6 Accepted Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:07:41)
* coremodule will secretarialize (adamw, 16:07:47)
* Proposed Final blockers (adamw, 16:07:54)
* (2180849) Gnome desktop notifications shown at the wrong times
(adamw, 16:07:59)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2180849 (adamw,
16:08:01)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1134
(adamw, 16:08:05)
* Proposed Blocker, gnome-shell, NEW (adamw, 16:08:06)
* Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+0,0,-1) (-frantisekz) (adamw, 16:08:10)
* AGREED: 2180849 - RejectedBlocker (Final) - it was agreed this is
just too much of a corner case to constitute a violation of the
panel or update notification criteria, so it's rejected (adamw,
16:15:26)
* (2183034) packages with file capabilities fail to install in podman on
F38 host (adamw, 16:15:33)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2183034 (adamw,
16:15:36)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1132
(adamw, 16:15:38)
* Proposed Blocker, podman, NEW (adamw, 16:15:40)
* Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+1,0,-3) (+sumantrom, -nielsenb,
-geraldosimiao, -frantisekz) (adamw, 16:15:43)
* AGREED: 2183034 - RejectedBlocker (Final) AcceptedFreezeException
(Final) - this is rejected as we really do not have the framework in
place to treat toolbox as release blocking for now (see tickets).
it's accepted as an FE, though, as it would definitely be good to
have it working at release for the increasingly popular immutable
editions (adamw, 16:29:55)
* Proposed Final freeze exceptions (adamw, 16:30:16)
* (2183038) Rebuild to pull in cryptographic fixes for RPM (bug 2170878)
(adamw, 16:30:21)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2183038 (adamw,
16:30:24)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1135
(adamw, 16:30:26)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, fedora-toolbox, ON_QA (adamw, 16:30:29)
* AGREED: 2170878 - AcceptedFreezeException (Final) - obviously it'd
be good to have the known cryptographic issues fixed in the toolbox
image too (adamw, 16:35:06)
* (2184091) LLVM 16 pull Into Fedora 38 (FreezeException) (adamw,
16:35:13)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2184091 (adamw,
16:35:15)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1136
(adamw, 16:35:18)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, llvm, NEW (adamw, 16:35:21)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2958#comment-843760 (bcotton,
16:39:51)
* AGREED: 2184091 - punt (delay decision) - we do not have a clear
vote on this (we are at +2 / -3 for a total of -1), so we will punt
it. note this is effectively close to a rejection, as we are very
unlikely to accept this later if we don't accept it now. (adamw,
17:07:03)
* (2176759) Some apps take much longer to start in Plasma in F38 than
F37 if xdg-desktop-portal-gnome is installed (adamw, 17:07:09)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2176759 (adamw,
17:07:12)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1133
(adamw, 17:07:14)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, xdg-desktop-portal-gnome, POST (adamw,
17:07:17)
* Ticket vote: FinalFreezeException (+2,0,-0) (+adamwill,
+geraldosimiao) (adamw, 17:07:19)
* AGREED: 2176759 - AcceptedFreezeException - This is behavior that
would be good to fix for the live images. (adamw, 17:13:41)
* AGREED: 2176759 - AcceptedFreezeException - This is behavior that
would be good to fix for the live images. (bcotton, 17:13:44)
* Accepted Final blockers (adamw, 17:14:10)
* (2171350) anaconda failed to detect the fcoe target(only affects
ixgbe) (adamw, 17:14:15)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2171350 (adamw,
17:14:20)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1041
(adamw, 17:14:23)
* Accepted Blocker, kernel, NEW (adamw, 17:14:26)
* this is pending re-testing with different hardware, it may not be a
blocker in the end. see details in bug (adamw, 17:15:32)
* (2179591) Logging out of Plasma 5.27.3 on Wayland as the second user
on the system resulted in a black screen (adamw, 17:17:57)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2179591 (adamw,
17:18:00)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1122
(adamw, 17:18:03)
* Accepted Blocker, plasma-workspace, NEW, depends on other bugs
(adamw, 17:18:06)
* this is still under investigation, but it seems difficult to
reproduce reliably and debug. we will continue to work on it
(adamw, 17:29:11)
* (2113005) Live image made with BOOTX64.EFI from latest shim-x64-15.6-2
fails to boot on some boards (adamw, 17:31:11)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2113005 (adamw,
17:31:14)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1087
(adamw, 17:31:17)
* Accepted Blocker, shim, NEW (adamw, 17:31:20)
* this is still waiting on the upstream NX patches, which AFAICS
haven't moved since mid-March. we will likely have to waive it
(adamw, 17:34:47)
* LINK: https://lkml.org/lkml/2023/3/14/390 (adamw, 17:36:33)
* Open floor (adamw, 17:39:04)
Meeting ended at 17:45:55 UTC.
Action Items
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Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* Eighth_Doctor (53)
* kparal (34)
* frantisekz (26)
* bcotton (25)
* lruzicka (21)
* TheExorcist[m] (20)
* zodbot (19)
* geraldosimiao (18)
* marcdeop[m] (10)
* davdunc[m (7)
* jforbes (4)
* SumantroMukherje (3)
* coremodule (2)
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Notification time stamped 2023-04-03 15:46:55 UTC
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#fedora-meeting: Fedora QA meeting
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Meeting started by adamw at 15:00:38 UTC. The full logs are available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2023-04-03/fedora-qa.2023-…
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (adamw, 15:00:48)
* Previous meeting follow-up (adamw, 15:06:32)
* "adamw to read up on how the matrix/irc bridging works for topic
setting, and get sumantro appropriate rights to set topics on both
sides in the test day channel" - i did this, sadly topic bridging
doesn't work in either direction, you have to set it manually on
both sides. I mailed sumantro some info on what he needs to set it
on IRC (adamw, 15:07:41)
* "adamw to check in with sumantro on status of iot and coreos test
weeks" - i did that, and both are in fact live now (coreos is just
ending, iot is starting) (adamw, 15:08:46)
* Window manager release criterion proposal (adamw, 15:11:18)
* kparal sent out an updated proposal:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org/…
(adamw, 15:11:57)
* the window management criterion proposal gathers strong indifference
and/or support (adamw, 15:18:56)
* Fedora 38 status (adamw, 15:19:25)
* current status is fairly good, blocker list is short and being
worked on (adamw, 15:20:02)
* final freeze is tomorrow (adamw, 15:20:07)
* not all validation tests have been run yet, if folks can help run
the missing tests on current nightly candidate composes that would
be great (adamw, 15:20:34)
* Test Day / community event status (adamw, 15:29:29)
* IoT test day is just starting:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2023-04-03_Fedora_38_IoT_Edition
(adamw, 15:31:35)
* CoreOS test day is wrapping up:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:Fedora_38_CoreOS (adamw,
15:31:56)
* Upgrade Test Day happened last week:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2023-03-28_F38_Upgrade_Test_Day
- thanks to everyone who tested (adamw, 15:32:38)
* Open floor (adamw, 15:35:07)
Meeting ended at 15:46:55 UTC.
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* zodbot (11)
* geraldosimiao (8)
* rishi (4)
* kparal (4)
* coremodule (3)
* bcotton (3)
* lruzicka (3)
* rishi[m] (1)
* marcdeop[m] (1)
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Notification time stamped 2023-04-03 14:59:30 UTC
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#fedora-meeting: Fedora Flatpak Packaging SIG
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Meeting started by kalev at 14:00:19 UTC. The full logs are available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2023-04-03/flatpak-sig.202…
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Meeting summary
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* Init process (kalev, 14:00:19)
* F38 status (kalev, 14:02:57)
* defolos would like to propose to use kiwi for flatpak building
(kalev, 14:18:00)
* kiwi could replace OSBS for building the flatpak containers (kalev,
14:46:26)
* Bigger pain point right now is MBS. One idea that most people agree
on are using custom koji side tags. Still need to figure out the
details. (kalev, 14:47:15)
Meeting ended at 14:59:30 UTC.
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* (none)
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* Eighth_Doctor (22)
* defolos (20)
* zodbot (14)
* yselkowitz[m]1 (10)
* travier (6)
* OwenTaylor[m] (5)
* tpopela[m] (4)
* rishi (1)
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