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#fedora-meeting-3: Fedora Infrastructure Ops Daily Standup Meeting
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Meeting started by phsmoura at 18:00:09 UTC. The full logs are available
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Meeting summary
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* meeting is 30 minutes MAX. At the end of 30, its stops (phsmoura,
18:00:10)
* agenda is at https://board.net/p/fedora-infra-daily (phsmoura,
18:00:10)
* reminder: speak up if you want to work on a ticket! (phsmoura,
18:03:16)
* Tickets needing review (phsmoura, 18:03:16)
*
https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues?status=Open&priority=1
(phsmoura, 18:03:21)
* Planning, Upcoming work and Open floor (phsmoura, 18:03:40)
* nirik is out this friday (nirik, 18:03:49)
* next monday is a holiday in the US (labor day) (nirik, 18:04:02)
Meeting ended at 18:25:57 UTC.
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* (none)
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Notification time stamped 2023-08-28 18:51:28 UTC
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#fedora-blocker-review: F39-blocker-review
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Meeting started by adamw at 16:07:41 UTC. The full logs are available at
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (adamw, 16:07:42)
* Introduction (adamw, 16:11:31)
* Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have
bugs. (adamw, 16:11:32)
* We'll be following the process outlined at: (adamw, 16:11:32)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
(adamw, 16:11:32)
* The bugs up for review today are available at: (adamw, 16:11:33)
* LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (adamw,
16:11:35)
* The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (adamw,
16:11:37)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Basic_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:11:39)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_39_Beta_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:11:41)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_39_Final_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:11:43)
* 2 Proposed Blockers (adamw, 16:12:06)
* 6 Accepted Blockers (adamw, 16:12:06)
* 2 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:12:12)
* 36 Accepted Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:12:12)
* 5 Proposed Blockers (adamw, 16:12:27)
* 3 Accepted Blockers (adamw, 16:12:27)
* many thanks to folks for doing a lot of ticket voting (adamw,
16:15:36)
* coremodule will secretarialize (adamw, 16:15:43)
* Proposed Beta blockers (adamw, 16:16:13)
* (2234466) crash after clicking Reset All in Blivet partitioning (in
GTK installer) (adamw, 16:16:29)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2234466 (adamw,
16:16:30)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1189
(adamw, 16:16:30)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (adamw, 16:16:30)
* Ticket vote: BetaBlocker (+0,0,-1) (-frantisekz) (adamw, 16:16:30)
* AGREED: 2234466 - RejectedBlocker (Beta) - we agreed this doesn't
quite violate the Beta criteria. Note it is already accepted as Beta
FE and Final blocker. (adamw, 16:32:38)
* (2234518) webUI: allows you to enter an encryption passphrase in
non-ASCII characters with no warning (adamw, 16:33:09)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2234518 (adamw,
16:33:10)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1193
(adamw, 16:33:10)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, ASSIGNED (adamw, 16:33:10)
* Ticket vote: BetaBlocker (+5,0,-1) (+geraldosimiao, +imsedgar,
+tflink, +nielsenb, +lruzicka, -kparal) (adamw, 16:33:10)
* Ticket vote: BetaFreezeException (+1,0,-0) (+adamwill) (adamw,
16:33:12)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=1985679 is the
warning that oldUI shows (adamw, 16:43:24)
* AGREED: 2234518 - punt (delay decision) - as things stand, votes are
+4 / -4, with the remaining +1s from earlier ticket votes. We will
describe the situation more clearly in the ticket and ask if anyone
who voted +1 wishes to change their vote (adamw, 16:51:15)
* (2234928) Crashes on encryption passphrases with non-ASCII characters
(adamw, 16:52:19)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2234928 (adamw,
16:52:42)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1200
(adamw, 16:52:42)
* Proposed Blocker, libblockdev, ASSIGNED (adamw, 16:52:52)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_39_Beta_Release_Criteria#Custom_parti…
(kparal, 16:55:04)
* AGREED: 2234928 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - this is accepted as a
conditional violation of the Beta requirement "When using both the
installer-native and the blivet-gui-based custom partitioning flow,
the installer must be able to: ... Encrypt newly-created storage
volumes", in the case that you include a non-ASCII character in the
passphrase (which is easy to do). (adamw, 16:59:33)
* Proposed Beta freeze exception issues (adamw, 17:00:10)
* (2235392) libva-nvidia-driver should replace the nvidia-vaapi-driver
rpmfusion package (adamw, 17:00:30)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2235392 (adamw,
17:00:30)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1221
(adamw, 17:00:30)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, libva-nvidia-driver, MODIFIED (adamw,
17:00:30)
* LINK: https://koji.rpmfusion.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=647
(geraldosimiao, 17:10:42)
* AGREED: 2235392 - RejectedFreezeException (Beta) - there really
isn't sufficient justification provided for why this should happen
during freeze. We're happy for this to be re-proposed with more
justification. (adamw, 17:14:46)
* (2155256) pyodbc fails to build with Python 3.12: error:
PyUnicode_FromUnicode was not declared in this scope (adamw,
17:15:12)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2155256 (adamw,
17:15:13)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1215
(adamw, 17:15:13)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, pyodbc, MODIFIED (adamw, 17:15:13)
* LINK: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=2213636
(adamw, 17:21:50)
* LINK:
https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org//packages/pyodbc/4.0.39/2.fc39/data/logs…
(adamw, 17:21:55)
* AGREED: 2155256 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - this is accepted
as a fails-to-install bug, which we accept as FEs to ease the
upgrade path unless there are any complications. (adamw, 17:24:38)
* Proposed Final blockers (adamw, 17:25:10)
* (2232398) [webui] Mount point assignment reports "Duplicate mount
point." after deleting mapping (adamw, 17:25:34)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2232398 (adamw,
17:25:34)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1177
(adamw, 17:25:34)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, POST (adamw, 17:25:34)
* Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+2,0,-0) (+nielsenb, +kparal) (adamw,
17:25:34)
* Ticket vote: BetaFreezeException (+3,0,-0) (+tflink, +nielsenb,
+geraldosimiao) (adamw, 17:25:36)
* AGREED: 2232398 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - this is accepted as a
violation of "The installer must be able to create and install to
any workable partition layout using any file system and/or container
format combination offered in a default installer configuration",
read as applying to webUI's mount point assignment interface, in the
case you need to re-do a mount point. (adamw, 17:34:46)
* (2189899) Blivet-GUI: A btrfs partition can't be reformatted (adamw,
17:34:57)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2189899 (adamw,
17:34:57)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1157
(adamw, 17:34:57)
* Proposed Blocker, blivet-gui, NEW (adamw, 17:34:57)
* Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+1,0,-0) (+nielsenb) (adamw, 17:34:57)
* AGREED: 2189899 - punt (delay decision) - this is a complex area and
we're really not too sure how to handle this. it's an awkward
experience but it is possible to work with it, and we don't know how
practical it is to 'fix' this on the development side. so we'll
delay the decision and ask anaconda/blivet devs to provide input on
that part (adamw, 17:42:57)
* (2215739) Decimal separator on keypad doesn't respect regional
formatting under Wayland (adamw, 17:43:09)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2215739 (adamw,
17:43:09)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1162
(adamw, 17:43:09)
* Proposed Blocker, plasma-desktop, NEW (adamw, 17:43:09)
* Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+0,0,-3) (-nielsenb, -geraldosimiao,
-kparal) (adamw, 17:43:09)
* AGREED: 2215739 - RejectedBlocker (Final) - we agree this is an
annoying bug that should be fixed, but it doesn't really violate any
release criterion, can be worked around by using the other key, and
has already been the case for a while (adamw, 17:48:14)
* (2187858) sddm-wayland-plasma does not respect keyboard layout variant
(adamw, 17:48:25)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2187858 (adamw,
17:48:25)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1158
(adamw, 17:48:25)
* Proposed Blocker, sddm, NEW (adamw, 17:48:25)
* Ticket vote: BetaBlocker (+1,0,-0) (+geraldosimiao) (adamw,
17:48:25)
* Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+2,0,-0) (+geraldosimiao, +nielsenb)
(adamw, 17:48:26)
* AGREED: 2187858 - punt (delay decision) - this potentially looks
like a blocker, but we would like to try and reproduce it
definitively on Fedora 39 with a clear understanding of the
distinction between "layouts" and "variants" (adamw, 18:07:01)
Meeting ended at 18:51:28 UTC.
Action Items
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Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* geraldosimiao (68)
* kparal (66)
* frantisekz (23)
* zodbot (13)
* coremodule (8)
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#fedora-meeting-2: FESCO (2023-08-24)
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Meeting started by zbyszek_ at 17:04:16 UTC. The full logs are available
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Meeting summary
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* init process (zbyszek_, 17:04:19)
* #3059 F39 incomplete changes: 100% complete deadline (zbyszek_,
17:05:18)
* Anaconda WebUI for Fedora Workstation by default (zbyszek_, 17:05:42)
* Changes were pushed today. The Change is in progress. (zbyszek_,
17:07:23)
* Build Fedora Workstation live ISO with Image Builder (zbyszek_,
17:07:30)
* This is still being worked out, but it's non-blocking and additive.
(zbyszek_, 17:08:35)
* Deprecating libuser and removing passwd package from Fedora
(zbyszek_, 17:08:42)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2233275#c1
(zbyszek_, 17:09:26)
* AGREED: Change is deferred to F40 (+7, 0, 0) (zbyszek_, 17:12:10)
* Allow Removal of tzdata (zbyszek_, 17:12:23)
* This isn't fully implemented yet, we'll revisit on the next meeting.
(zbyszek_, 17:15:24)
* LLVM 17 (zbyszek_, 17:15:41)
* Owners decided to move to rc3, and it's being built now. (zbyszek_,
17:18:14)
* Flatpaks without Modules (zbyszek_, 17:18:27)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11626 seems to be the blocker.
(zbyszek_, 17:19:34)
* This is pretty much done... just a few small things being sorted.
(zbyszek_, 17:19:59)
* Make Toolbx a release-blocking deliverable and have release-blocking
test criteria (zbyszek_, 17:20:12)
* This is done except for a single PR to make it blocking in the
compose config. (zbyszek_, 17:21:17)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/pungi-fedora/pull-request/1195 (nirik,
17:21:56)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/pungi-fedora/pull-request/1194 (Son_Goku,
17:22:12)
* https://pagure.io/pungi-fedora/pull-request/1195 is about to be
merged. (zbyszek_, 17:22:14)
* and also https://pagure.io/pungi-fedora/pull-request/1194.
(zbyszek_, 17:22:32)
* RPM 4.19 (zbyszek_, 17:22:45)
* Beta was built 3 months ago. Bugs are being fixed and we're waiting
for the final version. This is on track. (zbyszek_, 17:24:29)
* Modernize Thread Building Blocks for Fedora 39 (zbyszek_, 17:24:45)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2175941#c1
(zbyszek_, 17:25:32)
* This seems stalled, but it would be OK to land late if the
dependencies can be rebuilt. We'll revisit next week. (zbyszek_,
17:26:27)
* SPDX License Phase 2 (zbyszek_, 17:26:42)
* This is a neverending task. The Change is in progress. (zbyszek_,
17:28:19)
* LegacyXorgDriverRemoval (zbyszek_, 17:28:34)
* It seems no work has been done on this. (zbyszek_, 17:32:40)
* ACTION: ajax to look at the Change again. (zbyszek_, 17:33:42)
* Python 3.12 (zbyszek_, 17:34:05)
* python3-3.12.0~rc1-1 is in F39 and most packages have been rebuilt.
(zbyszek_, 17:36:16)
* LibreOffice 7.6 (zbyszek_, 17:36:40)
* LINK: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=2278778
(decathorpe, 17:37:39)
* This is in progress. Dependencies have been rebuilt in a side tag.
(zbyszek_, 17:37:55)
* LINK: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=2278778
(zbyszek_, 17:38:13)
* Enable fwupd-refresh.timer by default on IoT, CoreOS & Server editions
(zbyszek_, 17:38:31)
* LINK:
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/fedora-release/pull-request/279
(zbyszek_, 17:39:05)
* LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-config/pull/2562
(zbyszek_, 17:39:10)
* This is actively being worked on. We'll revisit next week.
(zbyszek_, 17:39:59)
* No custom Qt theming for Fedora Workstation (zbyszek_, 17:40:16)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1184
(Son_Goku, 17:40:58)
* Builds have been done after the deadline, so a FE has been
requested. (zbyszek_, 17:41:33)
* Passkey authentication for centrally managed users (zbyszek_,
17:41:46)
* This is mostly implemented, but is blocked on selinux policy changes
and possibly some udev rule changes. (zbyszek_, 17:46:39)
* Bigger ESP (zbyszek_, 17:47:00)
* The size change has caused problems, but just reverting it might
also cause problems. (zbyszek_, 17:49:39)
* Let's discuss this in the bug and revisit next week. (zbyszek_,
17:52:15)
* Enable bootupd for Fedora Silverblue & Kinoite (zbyszek_, 17:52:23)
* We'll revisit this next week. Owners plan to file a FE. (zbyszek_,
17:54:18)
* Next week's chair (zbyszek_, 17:54:53)
* ACTION: Son_Goku will chair next meeting (zbyszek_, 17:55:30)
* Open Floor (zbyszek_, 17:55:43)
Meeting ended at 17:58:14 UTC.
Action Items
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* ajax to look at the Change again.
* Son_Goku will chair next meeting
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* Son_Goku
* Son_Goku will chair next meeting
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* ajax to look at the Change again.
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