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pwhalen's meeting titled "Fedora IoT Working Group Meeting" ended in #fedora-meeting
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27 Sep '23

Notification time stamped 2023-09-27 15:19:26 UTC ================================================= #fedora-meeting: Fedora IoT Working Group Meeting ================================================= Meeting started by pwhalen at 15:00:57 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2023-09-27/fedora_iot_work… . Meeting summary --------------- * roll call (pwhalen, 15:00:57) * 1) ==== Working Group ==== (pwhalen, 15:05:00) * 2) ==== Fedora 38 - Stable ==== (pwhalen, 15:06:41) * OpenQA testing - https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/overview?distri=fedora&version=38&bu… (pwhalen, 15:06:51) * 3) ==== Fedora 39 - Devel ==== (pwhalen, 15:09:53) * OpenQA testing - https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/overview?distri=fedora&version=39&bu… (pwhalen, 15:10:05) * The F39 IoT Test Week is ongoing! Please help test! (coremodule, 15:11:18) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2023-09-24_Fedora_39_IoT_Edition (coremodule, 15:11:22) * LINK: https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/170 (coremodule, 15:11:27) * 2023-10-03 - Fedora 39 Final Freeze (starts at 1400 UTC) (pwhalen, 15:14:57) * 2023-10-17 - Early Final Target date (pwhalen, 15:15:34) * 4) ==== Fedora 40 - Rawhide ==== (pwhalen, 15:16:50) * OpenQA testing - https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/overview?distri=fedora&version=40&bu… (pwhalen, 15:16:50) * 5) ==== Open Floor ==== (pwhalen, 15:18:29) Meeting ended at 15:19:26 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * pwhalen (32) * coremodule (12) * zodbot (6) * djachimo (2) * pbrobinson (0) * idiez (0) * saypaul (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.4 .. _`MeetBot`: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2023-09-27/fedora_iot_work… -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorapro…

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phsmoura's meeting titled "Fedora Infrastructure Ops Daily Standup Meeting" ended in #fedora-meeting-3
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26 Sep '23

Notification time stamped 2023-09-26 18:13:34 UTC ================================================================== #fedora-meeting-3: Fedora Infrastructure Ops Daily Standup Meeting ================================================================== Meeting started by phsmoura at 18:01:30 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-3/2023-09-26/fedora_infras… . Meeting summary --------------- * meeting is 30 minutes MAX. At the end of 30, its stops (phsmoura, 18:01:30) * agenda is at https://board.net/p/fedora-infra-daily (phsmoura, 18:01:30) * reminder: speak up if you want to work on a ticket! (phsmoura, 18:02:31) * Tickets needing review (phsmoura, 18:02:31) * https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues?status=Open&priority=1 (phsmoura, 18:02:37) * https://pagure.io/releng/issues?status=Open (phsmoura, 18:07:00) * Planning, Upcoming work and Open floor (phsmoura, 18:08:55) Meeting ended at 18:13:34 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * phsmoura (25) * nirik (11) * zodbot (10) * smooge (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.4 .. _`MeetBot`: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-3/2023-09-26/fedora_infras… -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorapro…

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adamw's meeting titled "F39-blocker-review" ended in #fedora-blocker-review
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25 Sep '23

Notification time stamped 2023-09-25 18:39:37 UTC ========================================== #fedora-blocker-review: F39-blocker-review ========================================== Meeting started by adamw at 16:02:40 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2023-09-25/f39-bloc… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (adamw, 16:02:40) * Introduction (adamw, 16:09:31) * Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs. (adamw, 16:09:31) * We'll be following the process outlined at: (adamw, 16:09:31) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting (adamw, 16:09:31) * The bugs up for review today are available at: (adamw, 16:09:32) * LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (adamw, 16:09:34) * The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (adamw, 16:09:36) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Basic_Release_Criteria (adamw, 16:09:38) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_39_Beta_Release_Criteria (adamw, 16:09:42) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_39_Final_Release_Criteria (adamw, 16:09:44) * 5 Proposed Blockers (adamw, 16:09:51) * 1 Accepted Blockers (adamw, 16:09:52) * 6 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:09:56) * coremodule will secretarialize (adamw, 16:11:24) * Proposed Final blockers (adamw, 16:11:35) * (2239213) anaconda should use localed layout conversion when setting default console layout (adamw, 16:11:46) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2239213 (adamw, 16:11:46) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1339 (adamw, 16:11:46) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, POST (adamw, 16:11:46) * Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+2,0,-0) (+geraldosimiao, +bcotton) (adamw, 16:11:46) * AGREED: 2239213 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - this is accepted as a violation of "If a particular keyboard layout has been configured for the system, that keyboard layout must be used: ... When logging in at a console" in the case of Bulgarian and Kazakh layouts (adamw, 16:20:07) * (2239128) pop-up screen is stuck when try to format a partition (adamw, 16:20:15) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2239128 (adamw, 16:20:15) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1342 (adamw, 16:20:15) * Proposed Blocker, blivet-gui, NEW (adamw, 16:20:15) * Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+1,0,-0) (+imsedgar) (adamw, 16:20:15) * AGREED: 2239128 - punt (delay decision) - per @kparal it seems this might be a timing issue and it would be good for other folks to test and see if they're affected and if so, how often (and maybe get some feedback from the devs). so let's punt this for a week at least (adamw, 16:33:27) * (2239426) Displayed keymap on the login screen is often wrong (adamw, 16:33:34) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2239426 (adamw, 16:33:34) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1336 (adamw, 16:33:34) * Proposed Blocker, sddm, NEW (adamw, 16:33:34) * Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+1,0,-0) (+geraldosimiao) (adamw, 16:33:34) * AGREED: 2239426 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - it's a slight stretch, but we view this as an effective violation of the keyboard layout criterion: the layout chosen during install *is* used, but a prominent indicator says it isn't, which is very confusing. also, attempting to switch using the indicator doesn't work (adamw, 16:48:54) * (2239121) the second part of btrfs volume is shown as not-mounted (adamw, 16:49:04) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2239121 (adamw, 16:49:04) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1335 (adamw, 16:49:04) * Proposed Blocker, util-linux, NEW (adamw, 16:49:04) * Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+0,0,-1) (-kparal) (adamw, 16:49:04) * AGREED: 2239121 - punt (delay decision) - we would like to ask the GNOME Disks developers (and possibly util-linux too) for their opinion on this bug and how practical it is to try and address it (adamw, 17:01:38) * (2240211) Fonts, maximize buttons, cursor size settings not applied in "GTK" Flatpaks (adamw, 17:01:59) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2240211 (adamw, 17:01:59) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1344 (adamw, 17:02:00) * Proposed Blocker, xdg-desktop-portal, NEW (adamw, 17:02:00) * Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+1,0,-0) (+geraldosimiao) (adamw, 17:02:00) * AGREED: 2240211 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - this is accepted as a violation of "... the desktop environment must perform regular operations like windows close/resize/maximize/minimize/fullscreen (when supported/applicable)..." in the case of OOTB-installed GTK applications, e.g. Firefox (adamw, 17:17:44) * Proposed Final freeze exceptions (adamw, 17:18:03) * (2234638) Installation of the system fails when using `inst.sdboot` on anything but network install images (adamw, 17:18:12) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2234638 (adamw, 17:18:12) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1337 (adamw, 17:18:12) * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, anaconda, ASSIGNED (adamw, 17:18:12) * AGREED: 2234638 - AcceptedFreezeException (Final) - this is accepted as it would be good to have this Change working in all environments where it can (netinsts and the Server DVD) and disabled in environments where it can't (lives, ostrees?) (adamw, 17:29:08) * (2237327) btrfs flags are missing when using inst.sdboot option. (adamw, 17:29:16) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2237327 (adamw, 17:29:16) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1347 (adamw, 17:29:16) * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, anaconda, POST (adamw, 17:29:16) * AGREED: 2237327 - AcceptedFreezeException (Final) - this is an issue in an F39 Change that cannot be fixed with a post-release update, and the fix is pretty isolated to the systemd-boot code in the installer so can't break anything else (adamw, 17:42:41) * (2237396) Failed to create task for container: failed to create shim task: ttrpc: cannot marshal unknown type: *task.CreateTaskRequest: unknown (adamw, 17:42:56) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2237396 (adamw, 17:42:56) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1345 (adamw, 17:42:56) * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, containerd, NEW (adamw, 17:42:56) * AGREED: 2237396 - punt (delay decision) - we would like a clearer rationale for why it would be beneficial to grant an FE to this bug, given that containerd is not used by podman and probably isn't on any media aside from CoreOS. what does an FE achieve here that a 0-day update would not? (adamw, 18:04:49) * (2238985) the system is almost unusable when low-disk-space pops up (adamw, 18:05:01) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2238985 (adamw, 18:05:01) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1333 (adamw, 18:05:01) * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, gnome-settings-daemon, NEW (adamw, 18:05:01) * AGREED: 2238985 - RejectedFreezeException (Final) - this is rejected for now as we don't see how an FE would benefit versus a 0-day update here; typically if you're running out of disk space it would be after using the system for a while, not immediately after install (adamw, 18:17:13) * (2239111) low-disk-space warning message pops up pretty slow when the /home (btrfs volume ) is out of space (adamw, 18:17:24) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2239111 (adamw, 18:17:24) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1334 (adamw, 18:17:24) * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, gnome-settings-daemon, NEW (adamw, 18:17:24) * AGREED: 2239111 - RejectedFreezeException (Final) - similar to the previous bug, we don't see immediately that bugs in low free space notification are good FE candidates since they should be addressable with updates (adamw, 18:28:57) * (2238905) F39 workstation's Displays Scale is 125% by default on 1920x1080 14" laptop display (adamw, 18:29:06) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2238905 (adamw, 18:29:06) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1331 (adamw, 18:29:06) * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, mutter, NEW (adamw, 18:29:06) * AGREED: 2238905 - AcceptedFreezeException (Final) - there are various considerations and discussions around the fractional scaling feature, we are generally willing to grant an FE to any change in a conservative direction here (e.g. in this case, not applying auto-detection to non-integer scaling levels) (adamw, 18:37:38) * Accepted blockers (adamw, 18:37:43) * the only accepted blocker is the famous shim one, we are still tracking upstream progress there (adamw, 18:37:55) * Open floor (adamw, 18:37:57) Meeting ended at 18:39:37 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * adamw (189) * lruzicka (47) * Son_Goku (30) * geraldosimiao_IR (27) * zodbot (15) * aleasto (15) * coremodule (8) * geraldosimiao (7) * aoife (3) * davdunc (2) * thebeanogamer (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.4 .. _`MeetBot`: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2023-09-25/f39-bloc… -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorapro…

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phsmoura's meeting titled "Fedora Infrastructure Ops Daily Standup Meeting" ended in #fedora-meeting-3
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25 Sep '23

Notification time stamped 2023-09-25 18:27:59 UTC ================================================================== #fedora-meeting-3: Fedora Infrastructure Ops Daily Standup Meeting ================================================================== Meeting started by phsmoura at 18:01:06 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-3/2023-09-25/fedora_infras… . Meeting summary --------------- * meeting is 30 minutes MAX. At the end of 30, its stops (phsmoura, 18:01:06) * agenda is at https://board.net/p/fedora-infra-daily (phsmoura, 18:01:06) * reminder: speak up if you want to work on a ticket! (phsmoura, 18:01:39) * Tickets needing review (phsmoura, 18:01:39) * https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues?status=Open&priority=1 (phsmoura, 18:01:46) * https://pagure.io/releng/issues?status=Open (phsmoura, 18:06:36) * Planning, Upcoming work and Open floor (phsmoura, 18:10:21) Meeting ended at 18:27:59 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * phsmoura (30) * nirik (23) * zodbot (10) * smooge (8) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.4 .. _`MeetBot`: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-3/2023-09-25/fedora_infras… -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorapro…

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alexsaezm_irc's meeting titled "Go SIG meeting" ended in #fedora-golang
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25 Sep '23

Notification time stamped 2023-09-25 18:07:50 UTC ============================== #fedora-golang: Go SIG meeting ============================== Meeting started by alexsaezm_irc at 18:01:12 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-golang/2023-09-25/go_sig_meeting.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (alexsaezm_irc, 18:01:27) Meeting ended at 18:07:50 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * alexsaezm_irc (5) * zodbot (5) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.4 .. _`MeetBot`: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-golang/2023-09-25/go_sig_meeting.2… -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorapro…

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ryanlerch's meeting titled "a test meeting" ended in #fedora-meeting-3
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25 Sep '23

Notification time stamped 2023-09-25 06:28:33 UTC ================================= #fedora-meeting-3: a test meeting ================================= Meeting started by ryanlerch at 06:28:23 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-3/2023-09-25/a_test_meetin… . Meeting summary --------------- Meeting ended at 06:28:33 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * zodbot (5) * ryanlerch (2) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.4 .. _`MeetBot`: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-3/2023-09-25/a_test_meetin… -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorapro…

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