Notification time stamped 2023-09-11 17:40:18 UTC
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#fedora-blocker-review: F39-blocker-review
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Meeting started by adamw at 16:00:18 UTC. The full logs are available at
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (adamw, 16:00:19)
* Introduction (adamw, 16:04:01)
* Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have
bugs. (adamw, 16:04:01)
* We'll be following the process outlined at: (adamw, 16:04:01)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
(adamw, 16:04:01)
* The bugs up for review today are available at: (adamw, 16:04:03)
* LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (adamw,
16:04:05)
* The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (adamw,
16:04:07)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Basic_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:04:09)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_39_Beta_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:04:11)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_39_Final_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:04:13)
* for Beta, we have: (adamw, 16:04:18)
* 4 Proposed Blockers (adamw, 16:04:19)
* 2 Accepted Blockers (adamw, 16:04:19)
* 3 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:04:23)
* 22 Accepted Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:04:23)
* for Final, we have: (adamw, 16:04:27)
* 5 Proposed Blockers (adamw, 16:04:41)
* coremodule will secretarialize (adamw, 16:06:38)
* proposed Beta blockers (adamw, 16:07:16)
* (2237878) Anaconda webUI can't handle two btrfs volumes with the same
name, writes into a different partition than indicated (adamw,
16:07:30)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2237878 (adamw,
16:07:30)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1295
(adamw, 16:07:31)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (adamw, 16:07:31)
* Ticket vote: BetaBlocker (+5,0,-1) (+kparal, +adamwill,
+geraldosimiao, +frantisekz, +lruzicka, -lnie) (adamw, 16:07:31)
* Ticket vote: BetaFreezeException (+1,0,-0) (+lnie) (adamw,
16:07:33)
* AGREED: 2237878 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - this is accepted as a
violation of "the installer must be able to: ... Assign mount points
to existing storage volumes" on webUI. while the triggering
condition is not super common, the potential consequences are
catastrophic enough that we believe it should block release (adamw,
16:25:47)
* (2238292) blivet-gui on Workstation Live doesn't show existing btrfs
subvolumes (adamw, 16:27:11)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2238292 (adamw,
16:27:12)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1298
(adamw, 16:27:12)
* Proposed Blocker, blivet-gui, NEW (adamw, 16:27:12)
* Ticket vote: BetaBlocker (+3,0,-1) (+kparal, +geraldosimiao,
+lruzicka, -frantisekz) (adamw, 16:27:12)
* AGREED: 2238292 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - this is accepted as a
violation of "the installer must be able to: Correctly interpret,
and modify as described below, any disk ... containing ... btrfs
volumes" (adamw, 16:32:02)
* (2232838) Some NVME controllers fail to initialize with kernel 6.4.11
or later (nvme0: controller is down; will reset: CSTS:0xffffffff,
PCI_STATUS=0xffff) (adamw, 16:32:16)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2232838 (adamw,
16:32:16)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1291
(adamw, 16:32:16)
* Proposed Blocker, kernel, NEW (adamw, 16:32:16)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=217802#c18
(humaton, 16:35:56)
* LINK:
https://linux-hardware.org/index.php?id=pci:10ec-525a-17aa-222e
(humaton, 16:39:51)
* AGREED: 2232838 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - this is accepted as a
violation of "The installer must be able to complete an installation
to a single disk" and/or "A system installed with a release-blocking
desktop must boot to a log in screen" on affected systems (whichever
point it fails at) (adamw, 16:45:03)
* (2237375) blivet-gui creates different volumes with the same name,
confusing anaconda webUI (adamw, 16:45:27)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2237375 (adamw,
16:45:27)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1260
(adamw, 16:45:27)
* Proposed Blocker, python-blivet, ASSIGNED (adamw, 16:45:27)
* Ticket vote: BetaBlocker (+1,0,-2) (+lnie, -kparal, -frantisekz)
(adamw, 16:45:27)
* Ticket vote: BetaFreezeException (+4,0,-0) (+kparal, +adamwill,
+geraldosimiao, +frantisekz) (adamw, 16:45:30)
* AGREED: 2237375 - RejectedBlocker (Beta), AcceptedFreezeException
(Beta) - we agreed it makes more sense to block on 2237878 than on
this (i.e. make the installer handle multiple volumes with the same
label). but creating them is still a bad idea and should be fixed if
possible, so we grant this an FE (adamw, 16:53:48)
* Proposed Beta freeze exceptions (adamw, 16:53:56)
* (2236156) [webui] "Use Free Space..." option is not always
visible/hidden (adamw, 16:54:08)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2236156 (adamw,
16:54:08)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1300
(adamw, 16:54:08)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, anaconda, MODIFIED (adamw, 16:54:08)
* Ticket vote: BetaFreezeException (+1,0,-0) (+kparal) (adamw,
16:54:08)
* AGREED: 2236156 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - this is a fairly
findable UI issue in the installer that cannot be fixed with an
update, since we have a fix for it and the fix is fairly targeted it
makes sense to include it (adamw, 16:59:53)
* 2237658 will be skipped as it's already at -3 in ticket voting
(adamw, 17:00:21)
* (2237707) Update Python to 3.12.0rc2 (adamw, 17:00:27)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2237707 (adamw,
17:00:27)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1287
(adamw, 17:00:28)
* Proposed Freeze Exceptions, python3.12, ON_QA (adamw, 17:00:28)
* Ticket vote: BetaFreezeException (+3,0,-3) (+zbyszek, +frantisekz,
+geraldosimiao, -adamwill, -kparal, -lruzicka) (adamw, 17:00:28)
* AGREED: 2237707 - punt (delay decision) - we have a split vote here,
cannot accept or reject. We will punt this; if a clear consensus
emerges in ticket voting it can be accepted or rejected (adamw,
17:09:16)
* Proposed Final blockers (adamw, 17:09:45)
* 2237878 was accepted as Beta blocker, so no need to consider it here
(adamw, 17:10:00)
* (2238282) Can't refocus blivet-gui, anaconda crashes on trying to
launch it again (adamw, 17:10:08)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2238282 (adamw,
17:10:08)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1297
(adamw, 17:10:09)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (adamw, 17:10:09)
* Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+2,0,-0) (+kparal, +lruzicka) (adamw,
17:10:09)
* Ticket vote: BetaFreezeException (+4,0,-0) (+kparal, +frantisekz,
+lruzicka, +lnie) (adamw, 17:10:09)
* quick 2232838 cameo by jforbes (adamw, 17:16:10)
* (2238282) Can't refocus blivet-gui, anaconda crashes on trying to
launch it again (adamw, 17:16:25)
* AGREED: 2238282 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - this is accepted as a
conditional violation of all the disk management criteria, in the
case you manage to trigger this by clicking outside of the
blivet-gui window (adamw, 17:16:34)
* quick 2232838 cameo by jforbes (adamw, 17:16:41)
* jforbes says a revert of the offending commit for 2232838 should be
possible and he will work on it today (adamw, 17:17:32)
* (2236343) When adding a US layout for a non-ASCII-capable layout, put
US first in the list, but ensure the KEYMAP setting in vconsole.conf
is the native layout (adamw, 17:17:59)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2236343 (adamw,
17:17:59)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1240
(adamw, 17:17:59)
* Proposed Blocker, gnome-initial-setup, ON_QA (adamw, 17:17:59)
* AGREED: 2236343 - punt (delay decision) - we need to confirm adam's
theory about this affecting the console layout of the installed
system before we can confirm whether it's a blocker, adam will test
that today (adamw, 17:21:58)
* 2232838 is already accepted as Beta blocker, no need to consider it
here (adamw, 17:22:21)
* (2187858) sddm-wayland-plasma does not respect keyboard layout variant
(adamw, 17:22:28)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2187858 (adamw,
17:22:28)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1158
(adamw, 17:22:28)
* Proposed Blocker, sddm, NEW (adamw, 17:22:28)
* Ticket vote: BetaBlocker (+1,0,-1) (+geraldosimiao, -catanzaro)
(adamw, 17:22:28)
* Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+3,0,-0) (+geraldosimiao, +nielsenb,
+catanzaro) (adamw, 17:22:30)
* AGREED: 2187858 - punt (delay decision) - adam did a simple test
here, but it would probably be good for more folks to test more
slightly different setups to see if we can identify any remaining
issues (adamw, 17:28:06)
* Proposed Beta blockers redux (adamw, 17:28:25)
* (2237986) Fedora 39 fails to boot on qemu VM using
OVMF_CODE_4M.secboot.qcow2 firmware (adamw, 17:29:01)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2237986 (adamw,
17:29:11)
* Proposed Blocker, libvirt, MODIFIED (adamw, 17:29:27)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1294
(adamw, 17:30:02)
* AGREED: 2237986 - RejectedBlocker (Beta) - we don't believe GNOME
Boxes offers the affected configuration, and anyone running into it
with any other tool should have updates available at the time, so
it's fine for this to go as a regular update (adamw, 17:36:16)
* let's skip accepted blocker review as folks are leaving and I also
have to, will look at them outside the meeting (adamw, 17:36:34)
* Open floor (adamw, 17:36:37)
Meeting ended at 17:40:18 UTC.
Action Items
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* (none)
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* Son_Goku (34)
* geraldosimiao (33)
* sgallagh (26)
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Notification time stamped 2023-09-08 16:59:50 UTC
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#fedora-meeting: ELN (2023-09-08)
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Meeting started by sgallagh at 16:00:43 UTC. The full logs are available
at
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Meeting summary
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* Init Process (sgallagh, 16:00:43)
* Agenda (sgallagh, 16:05:34)
* Agenda Item: Status Update (sgallagh, 16:05:50)
* Agenda Item: grub2-efi issues (sgallagh, 16:08:21)
* grub2-efi issues (sgallagh, 16:09:36)
* LINK:
https://tiny.distro.builders/view-rpm--view-eln-extras--grub2-efi-x64-modul…
(sgallagh, 16:12:06)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/pungi-fedora/pull-request/1196#request_diff
(sgallagh, 16:16:10)
* LINK:
https://gitlab.com/redhat/centos-stream/rpms/tboot/-/commit/26f7e15a839997e…
(yselkowitz, 16:23:48)
* There's a disconnect between CentOS Stream and ELN; tboot depends on
grub2-efi-x64-modules in CS9 (sgallagh, 16:26:12)
* ACTION: yselkowitz will contact the maintainers to find out what
should happen in ELN (sgallagh, 16:26:35)
* The grub2-efi-x64-modules package was removed from ELN because it is
not present in the Content Resolver output. (sgallagh, 16:27:24)
* Status Update (sgallagh, 16:46:09)
* First packages will be synced to CentOS Stream 10 next week.
Composes to come later. (sgallagh, 16:50:23)
* Direct CentOS Stream development is still not going to start; all
work should continue to happen on ELN until further notice.
(sgallagh, 16:50:55)
Meeting ended at 16:59:50 UTC.
Action Items
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* yselkowitz will contact the maintainers to find out what should happen
in ELN
Action Items, by person
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* yselkowitz
* yselkowitz will contact the maintainers to find out what should
happen in ELN
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* (none)
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* dcavalca (38)
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Notification time stamped 2023-09-07 18:21:40 UTC
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#fedora-meeting-2: FESCO (2023-09-07)
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Meeting started by Son_Goku at 17:02:05 UTC. The full logs are available
at
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Meeting summary
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* init process (Son_Goku, 17:03:50)
* #3062 Unannounced F39 change: Dropping sshd.socket unit from openssh
package (Son_Goku, 17:07:39)
* AGREED: The Change to drop sshd.socket needs to be reverted before
Fedora Linux 39 Beta release. If it is desired to drop this, then
FESCo requests a full Change proposal for Fedora Linux 40 so all
stakeholders can work on implementing it properly. (+6, 1, -0)
(Son_Goku, 17:17:56)
* #3059 F39 incomplete changes: 100% complete deadline (Son_Goku,
17:18:15)
* Modernize Thread Building Blocks for Fedora 39 (Son_Goku, 17:27:08)
* the tbb2020.3 compat package exists, but tbb has not been upgraded
(Son_Goku, 17:28:44)
* ACTION: zbyszek_ will email trodgers to remind him of the Change to
get it done before Final Freeze (Son_Goku, 17:33:01)
* LegacyXorgDriverRemoval (Son_Goku, 17:33:26)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3059#comment-870702 ?
(mhroncok_web, 17:35:17)
* ACTION: nirik will email ajax about the Change to find out what's
going on here, we need a status update asap (Son_Goku, 17:36:54)
* Bigger ESP (Son_Goku, 17:39:15)
* The ESP default size was raised to 500MiB, but the limit of 600MiB
was restored. https://github.com/rhinstaller/anaconda/pull/5081
(Son_Goku, 17:43:51)
* Enable bootupd for Fedora Silverblue & Kinoite (Son_Goku, 17:45:27)
* ACTION: zbyszek_ will email travier/siosm to get an update on the
bootupd work (Son_Goku, 17:56:11)
* Enable fwupd-refresh.timer by default on IoT, CoreOS & Server editions
(Son_Goku, 17:58:23)
* The pull request for fedora-release needs to be merged to finish
implementing it:
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/fedora-release/pull-request/279
(Son_Goku, 18:00:05)
* Allow Removal of tzdata (Son_Goku, 18:05:24)
* AGREED: This is punted for now. We'll revisit next week. (+6, 0, 0)
(Son_Goku, 18:13:21)
* Next week's chair (Son_Goku, 18:13:46)
* ACTION: decathorpe will chair the next meeting (Son_Goku, 18:17:30)
* Open Floor (Son_Goku, 18:17:37)
Meeting ended at 18:21:40 UTC.
Action Items
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* zbyszek_ will email trodgers to remind him of the Change to get it
done before Final Freeze
* nirik will email ajax about the Change to find out what's going on
here, we need a status update asap
* zbyszek_ will email travier/siosm to get an update on the bootupd work
* decathorpe will chair the next meeting
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* decathorpe
* decathorpe will chair the next meeting
* nirik
* nirik will email ajax about the Change to find out what's going on
here, we need a status update asap
* zbyszek
* zbyszek_ will email trodgers to remind him of the Change to get it
done before Final Freeze
* zbyszek_ will email travier/siosm to get an update on the bootupd
work
* zbyszek_
* zbyszek_ will email trodgers to remind him of the Change to get it
done before Final Freeze
* zbyszek_ will email travier/siosm to get an update on the bootupd
work
* **UNASSIGNED**
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#fedora-meeting-3: Infrastructure (2023-09-07)
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Meeting started by eddiejennings at 16:01:55 UTC. The full logs are
available at
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Meeting summary
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* Agenda is at: https://board.net/p/fedora-infra (eddiejennings,
16:02:09)
* About our team: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/
(eddiejennings, 16:02:09)
* Fedora Infra documentation: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/infra
(eddiejennings, 16:02:09)
* greetings! (eddiejennings, 16:02:09)
* New folks introductions (eddiejennings, 16:05:40)
* This is a place where people who are interested in Fedora
Infrastructure can introduce themselves (eddiejennings, 16:05:41)
* Getting Started Guide:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/GettingStarted
(eddiejennings, 16:05:41)
* Next chair (eddiejennings, 16:06:38)
* magic eight ball says: (eddiejennings, 16:06:39)
* chair 2023-09-07 eddiejennings (eddiejennings, 16:06:39)
* chair 2023-09-14 nirik (eddiejennings, 16:06:39)
* chair 2023-09-21 phsmoura (eddiejennings, 16:06:39)
* chair 2023-09-28 pcreech (eddiejennings, 16:06:39)
* Oncall (eddiejennings, 16:09:35)
* https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Oncall
(eddiejennings, 16:09:35)
* https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/day_to_day_fedora/
(eddiejennings, 16:09:35)
* darknao is on call from 2023-09-01 to 2023-09-07 (eddiejennings,
16:09:35)
* nirik is on call from 2023-09-08 to 2023-09-14 (eddiejennings,
16:09:35)
* ??? is on call from 2023-09-15 to 2023-09-21 (eddiejennings,
16:09:37)
* pcreech is on call from 2023-09-22 to 2023-09-28 (eddiejennings,
16:09:39)
* zlopez is on call from 2023-09-15 to 2023-09-21 (eddiejennings,
16:10:41)
* Summary of last week: (from current oncall ) (eddiejennings,
16:12:30)
* Monitoring discussion [nirik] (eddiejennings, 16:17:15)
* https://nagios.fedoraproject.org/nagios (eddiejennings, 16:17:15)
* Go over existing out items and fix (eddiejennings, 16:17:15)
* announcements and information (eddiejennings, 16:20:42)
* CPE Infra&Releng EU-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30
minute meeting going through tickets at 0730 UTC in #centos-meeting
(eddiejennings, 16:20:42)
* CPE Infra&Releng NA-hours team has a Monday through Thursday 30
minute meeting going through tickets at 1800 UTC in
#fedora-meeting-3 (eddiejennings, 16:20:42)
* we are in f39 beta freeze (eddiejennings, 16:20:42)
* next go/nogo for f39 beta is September 14 (eddiejennings, 16:24:03)
* Revisit blocked tickets (eddiejennings, 16:35:39)
* Check if any blocked ticket is unblocked (eddiejennings, 16:35:39)
* LINK:
https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues?status=Open&tags=blocked&pri…
(eddiejennings, 16:35:39)
* Fedora Infra backlog refinement (eddiejennings, 16:38:17)
* Refine oldest tickets on Fedora Infra tracker (eddiejennings,
16:38:17)
* LINK:
https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issues?status=Open&order_key=last_u…
(eddiejennings, 16:38:18)
* LINK:
https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/9/ht…
(nirik, 16:48:29)
* Upcoming learning topics (eddiejennings, 16:58:18)
* Open Floor (eddiejennings, 16:58:28)
Meeting ended at 17:00:20 UTC.
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* (none)
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