music May 2009

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LMMS
by Fermin Molina 24 May '09

24 May '09

Hi all, Any plan to include in fedora or in planetccrma this great app? I think that LMMS is a great music production app: http://lmms.sourceforge.net/ Cheers, /Fermin

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about the Fedora Studio idea
by Orcan Ogetbil 23 May '09

23 May '09

I had posted on fedora-devel mailing list about this idea a while ago, but the discussion didn't last long: http://www.linux-archive.org/fedora-development/266281-adding-new-group-des… In short, currently all our audio/video players/editors are cluttering the Multimedia group of the desktop menu. Since players and editors are very different in nature and Audio/Video creation software have their own target audience, I am proposing to list them under a different group in the desktop menu. This way both type of applications will become more accessible. I am primarily interested in Audio Creation software and currently we have enough packages to have our own group: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/AudioCreation To achieve this we will need to modify the desktop files of our packages to add some category which will be picked up by the menu applets and place them in the Audio Creation group. I am planning to make a new feature draft page on Fedora wiki in the near future and present it to FESCo so that we can have a Fedora Studio by F-12. There are a few choices we need to make along the way: - Should we include Video creation applications in this group too? - What shall we call the group in the menu? Studio, Audio Creation, A/V Creation...? - What desktop file category(ies) shall we use? The standard categories we can use are Midi, Mixer, Sequencer, Tuner, AudioVideoEditing. We can also use some artificial category such as X-Studio, X-AudioCreation, ... Note that when a desktop file contains AudioVideo the application goes to the Multimedia group. Who would want to participate in this project? Please share your comments, opinions, ... Orcan

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Re: Mixer Wowes
by William M. Quarles 17 May '09

17 May '09

TheOther wrote: >> David, or Fernando, or ANYBODY else out there, do you have any idea why >> this isn't working for me? Something smells funny about Pulseaudio, but >> I don't know enough about it to be able to say why. > > Hello William, > > You can check the PlanetCCRMA archives to see my thoughts and > experiences with PulseAudio. > > If you have Fedora 10 installed, remove PulseAudio. > > If you are using Fedora 7, 8, or 9, then upgrade to Fedora 10 so you > can remove PulseAudio. > > Good Luck, > Stephen. Sounds good to me, I don't even know what PulseAudio does other than it kept Rhythmbox from working when I first installed Fedora 10 on a computer. But what dependencies will I be breaking? Last time that I did that, I also found like a dozen or so other applications that depended on PulseAudio that my RPM database apparently didn't know about. I'll give it a shot! Thanks, William

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RE: Mixer Wowes
by William M. Quarles 16 May '09

16 May '09

David Timms wrote: > ps. it's sort of poor list etiquete to set the reply to address of mail to lists to yourself only. If you are willing to put your queries in public, it makes sense that all readers of the list should get replies to your thread. So I adjust the to back to f-m-l and cc yourself. > I have no idea what you are talking about, and I didn't change anything having to do with "reply-to" settings. I use Gmane to for all of my lists, so everything I send to a Gmane newsgroup gets sent to all mailing list members no matter what. http://gmane.org/ I have been sending all of my replies to both the Planet CCRMA "list" and the Fedora Music "list" (via Gmane) in order to get input from all thinkers on the subject. If you missed a message, then you aren't subscribed to both lists. However, I still quote what was said, so you should be able to get the point. If you choose not to reply to both lists when you respond to one of my messages, that is your choice. Personally, I hate mailing lists, and I think it makes a lot more sense to put this stuff on newsgroups, especially high-volume things like the general Fedora list, rather than pumping up one's inbox (especially when that inbox has a quota) with messages of which 25-95% of which I don't read, depending on the list. Peace, William

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Re: Mixer Wowes
by William M. Quarles 14 May '09

14 May '09

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Mixer Wowes
by William M. Quarles 13 May '09

13 May '09

Hey all, I have Fedora 10 and a machine with a (please, no laughing or snickering) Creative Labs Sound Blaster AWE 64 Value sound card and a Sigma Designs RealMagic Hollywood Plus DVD decoder card. While the computer loads the ALSA drivers needed for both cards, the sound controls in GNOME only display the Hollywood+ controls, and nothing is available for the AWE 64. I have used the AWE 64 successfully in another computer before that already had another sound card in it, so I don't know what the deal is here. Help. Please? Peace, William

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unsubscribe
by Robert Hedges 08 May '09

08 May '09

On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 11:00 AM, <fedora-music-list-request(a)redhat.com>wrote: > Send Fedora-music-list mailing list submissions to > fedora-music-list(a)redhat.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-music-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > fedora-music-list-request(a)redhat.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > fedora-music-list-owner(a)redhat.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Fedora-music-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Mixer Wowes (William M. Quarles) > 2. Re: Mixer Wowes (William M. Quarles) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 22:20:32 -0400 > From: "William M. Quarles" <walrus(a)bellsouth.net> > Subject: [Fedora-music-list] Re: Mixer Wowes > To: fedora-music-list(a)redhat.com > Cc: planetccrma(a)ccrma.stanford.edu > Message-ID: <gu04ti$mpb$1(a)ger.gmane.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > David Timms wrote: > > William M. Quarles wrote: > > > David Timms wrote: > > >> William M. Quarles wrote: > > >>> I have Fedora 10 and a machine with a (please, no laughing or > > >>> snickering) Creative Labs Sound Blaster AWE 64 Value sound card and > a > > >>> Sigma Designs RealMagic Hollywood Plus DVD decoder card. While the > > >>> computer loads the ALSA drivers needed for both cards, > > >> As evidenced by ? > > > > > > Uh, as evidenced by lsmod? I'm not a newbie if that's what you're > > implying. > > Yes, but really was it an alsa util you used, lsmod or looking at /proc ? > > lsmod and /proc were used, and they were used before I wrote the > original message, thank you. > > > > > [root@quarlewm ~]# lsmod > > I suggested grep snd so that we would get sound related modules, not the > > whole thing. It's just faster to look at the reduced version. I can > > however see all the modules seem to be linked up. > > I know you did make that suggestion. I had different purposes in mind, > as it seems you inadvertently stumbled upon them. > > > >> I'm not sure which mod the awe needs, but check lsmod |grep snd > > >> Maybe fpaste.org your alsa-info results for others to check > > > > > > The AWE 64 cards use snd-sbawe module, which can be easily checked on > > > http://www.alsa-project.org/'s <http://www.alsa-project.org/%27s>sound card matrix. > > Given that your asking for help, I probably won't be going searching > > sites to try to find appropriate info; I'll ask you to, or you could > > offer that info, and hence we know what you've tried. > > > > > I have no idea what you mean by fpaste.org > > One of many paste-bin web sites. These allow anonymous (you do need to > > supply an email address that is used to limit bad usage of the site) > > text upload site. It's really just a holder for bits of text from logs / > > compiles etc that would unnecessarily fill up mailing list user's email > > boxes. > > http://fpaste.org is targeted towards Fedora users. > > Great, guess I'm a old fogey not up on the current trends. Then again, I > did stop using GNU/Linux for about three or four years up until recently. > > I uploaded my alsa-info.txt to <http://fpaste.org/paste/11316>. > > > >, but alsa-info does seem like > > > a good idea in this case; however it also unfortunately seems a little > > > useless since it reveals a great deal of output, but I can't copy and > > > paste any of it into this post > > That's the point of the paste-bin, we don't really want large log files > > in our email boxes. > > This stuff should all be in newsgroups anyway, that's why I am very glad > to have found out about GMANE back around when Fedora Core 1 came out. > > > > , and the final message upon exiting the program says: > > > > > > Your ALSA information is located at > > > Please inform the person helping you. > > > > > > So, uh, LOCATED AT big blank? > > Yeah, that didn't work out well: > > Your ALSA information is located at > > > http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=23db04e4a7aeaa23357d00481f38b86638e90b21 > > > > Please inform the person helping you. > > $ > > > > Well it normally pastes to the alsa project pastebin, and gives the link > > (which worked for me). I'm guessing your internet/web access is normal, > > so perhaps this is further indication of something going wrong during > > alsa calls ? > > Define normal. I'm using a docked Win XP Pro laptop right now as a router. > > > > Gee, diagnostic program. > > has a --help capability: > > alsa-info --help > > shows a debug option, that stores the large alsa log on your local > > disk so that you could manually put it on a pastebin, and post the link > > back here. > > I know that it has a help function, but I did not know that the debug > option left the log file that we were looking for behind on the hard > drive. It would make more sense to me if they did both a local dump and > an upload simultaneously. > > However, since you suggested, I tried the debug option. The program left > the file behind, but not where the help function said that it would > leave it behind, so basically there is a bug in the debug function, or a > bug in the help function. depending on your point of view I suppose. > > Curiosity, alsa-info is offering to update itself, which I didn't do in > hear of breaking any Fedora customizations. Did you do the update? Would > you suggest that I do the update? > > > >>> the sound controls in GNOME only display the Hollywood+ controls, > and > > >>> nothing is available for the AWE 64. > > Bugger. > > You betcha. > > > > [root@quarlewm ~]# alsamixer > > > ALSA lib pulse.c:272:(pulse_connect) PulseAudio: Unable to connect: > > > Connection refused > > If pulseaudio wasn't running, I think you would get a different error > like: > > $ alsamixer > > E: socket-client.c: socket(): Address family not supported by protocol > > > alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: Connection > refused > > alsamixer decided to work today. ;-) Or maybe it was Pulseaudio, which > is new to me. Same stuff as in the GNOME mixer, unfortuntely. > > > > [root@quarlewm ~]# alsaunmute > > > Unknown hardware: "SB AWE" "CTL1745" "CTL1745" "" "" > > > Hardware is initialized using a guess method > > > /lib/alsa/init/default:17: unable to convert dB value '-20dB' to > > > internal integer range > > Mine: > > $ alsaunmute > > Unknown hardware: "CA0106" "" "" "" "" > > Hardware is initialized using a guess method > > $ > > alsaunmute behaved the same as yesterday, pretty much. > > > I guess aplay wont work either ? > > It doesn't seem to... then again I don't have a file on hand for it to > play. > > > alsamixer -c0 ? > > Wow, that's the spirit! So how do I get the GNOME sound stuff to > recognize it? > > > ps aux|grep -E 'pad|pav|pul' > > > > I'm assuming playback is a problem as well, not just mixer control ? > > Well, now that alsamixer is working, yes, I am getting sound. Do you > know how to fix the GNOME mixer issues? > > > Do you have the option to try without the decoder card installed, for a > > giggle ? > > > > DaveT. > > > > Yeah, I can give that a shot, I'll get back to you on it. But please, > give me a reply to what I have written here already before I do. > > Thanks, > William > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 07 May 2009 22:52:50 -0400 > From: "William M. Quarles" <walrus(a)bellsouth.net> > Subject: [Fedora-music-list] Re: Mixer Wowes > To: fedora-music-list(a)redhat.com > Cc: planetccrma(a)ccrma.stanford.edu > Message-ID: <gu06q4$pv6$1(a)ger.gmane.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > William M. Quarles wrote: > > David Timms wrote: > <snip> > >> I'm assuming playback is a problem as well, not just mixer control ? > > > > Well, now that alsamixer is working, yes, I am getting sound. Do you > > know how to fix the GNOME mixer issues? > > > > OK, unfortunately, the sound that I am getting from XMMS playing MP3 > files is intermittently distorted, and is somehow actually coming from > the decoder card instead of the sound card, then getting passed through > to the sound card via the internal patch cable that I have installed. I > checked this by using alsamixer to vary the volume on the sound card's > CD input, and also by varying the volume on the decoder card. > > >> Do you have the option to try without the decoder card installed, for a > >> giggle ? > >> > >> DaveT. > >> > > > > Yeah, I can give that a shot, I'll get back to you on it. But please, > > give me a reply to what I have written here already before I do. > > > > Thanks, > > William > > > > Haven't gotten around to that yet still, I'll probably try it tomorrow. > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Fedora-music-list mailing list > Fedora-music-list(a)redhat.com > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-music-list > > > End of Fedora-music-list Digest, Vol 31, Issue 5 > ************************************************ >

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