Re: [Fedora-music-list] Icon Pack

[Christopher Antila]

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Hi Brian:

I'm wondering what these icons are for? If they are indeed intended to be 
functional (i.e., they will represent applications/programs, actions, places, 
resources, etc.) rather than decorative (i.e., they will be on the splash 
screen, desktop background, and marketing materials), I have a few 
suggestions.

1.) The drum set icon sticks out because it's much more detailed than the 
others. Generally, funcitonal icons should be as simple as posible.

2.) I don't know what source files you're using to generate the PNG images you 
sent, but ideally icons should be scalable SVG files.

3.) If you prefer PNG files, you could make different sizes of images, like most 
of the icons in the Oxygen set. If you do, when you make smaller icons, you'll 
probably want to change the metallic background to a gradient, and as you go 
even smaller, into a flat colour.

I'm also not a graphic designer. My comments are things I remember from 
reading blog posts and developing icons for my own programs. In my case at 
least, it seemed that the more accurately I could depict something, the *less* 
obvious it was for other people!


Christopher

On 1 February 2013 06:00:04 Brian Monroe wrote:
>  I'll go ahead and work on this tomorrow. I wanted to get a few
> more icons in
>  before I started working on theming, but does anyone have any more
>  suggestions/requests for icons before I start? Here's my updated icon
>  pack... [Inline image 1] [Inline image 2] [Inline image 3] [Inline image 4]
>  [Inline image 5] [Inline image 6] [Inline image 7] [Inline image 8]
>  
>  
>  Looks great! I am away this weekend so don't have time to try them out just
>  yet, but here's a link to what Ian has done. If you follow his instructions
>  you should be able to test it out with KDM.
>  
>  I will post something up on my site when I get back if you are unable
>  to.
>  http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/music/2012-September/001346.html
>  
> >  thanks again. 
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Icon Pack

[Brian Monroe]

They're not meant strictly to be used function icons. They certainly can be
used for that, but that wasn't my initial thought in designing them

I have them in GIMP and I can share that later on with others if you're
interested.

I agree in that they do look a little dirty. Lightening up that brushed
metal layer will be easy.

The PNG files are just something I picked arbitrarily to place in the
email. I can output them to virtually any icon/format.  I just thought it
might be best for throwing inline in an email.

Christopher - Thanks for the feedback on the drums. That is by far the one
I struggled with the most. I wanted a full drum kit and not just a
snare/single drum. Looking at the simple ones, it'd be difficult not to
copy the Rockband drum logo. I wanted to stay as far away from that as
possible. I also figured that even on the splash screen the images will be
25-50% the size so most of that detail will be lost and I won't have to
worry about it. (similar to the strap buttons on the guitar). But I'll try
to mull it over and see if I can think of something else that might get us
where we need it.

-Everyone- I really appreciate the feedback! Great ideas/Input! Keep it
coming if you think of anything else.

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Hi Brian:

I'm wondering what these icons are for? If they are indeed intended to be
functional (i.e., they will represent applications/programs, actions,
places,
resources, etc.) rather than decorative (i.e., they will be on the splash
screen, desktop background, and marketing materials), I have a few
suggestions.

1.) The drum set icon sticks out because it's much more detailed than the
others. Generally, funcitonal icons should be as simple as posible.

2.) I don't know what source files you're using to generate the PNG images
you
sent, but ideally icons should be scalable SVG files.

3.) If you prefer PNG files, you could make different sizes of images, like
most
of the icons in the Oxygen set. If you do, when you make smaller icons,
you'll
probably want to change the metallic background to a gradient, and as you go
even smaller, into a flat colour.

I'm also not a graphic designer. My comments are things I remember from
reading blog posts and developing icons for my own programs. In my case at
least, it seemed that the more accurately I could depict something, the
*less*
obvious it was for other people!


Christopher

On 1 February 2013 06:00:04 Brian Monroe wrote:
>  I'll go ahead and work on this tomorrow. I wanted to get a few
> more icons 
in
>  before I started working on theming, but does anyone have any more
>  suggestions/requests for icons before I start? Here's my updated icon
>  pack... [Inline image 1] [Inline image 2] [Inline image 3] [Inline image 
4]
>  [Inline image 5] [Inline image 6] [Inline image 7] [Inline image 8]
>
>
>  Looks great! I am away this weekend so don't have time to try them out 
just
>  yet, but here's a link to what Ian has done. If you follow his
instructions
>  you should be able to test it out with KDM.
>
>  I will post something up on my site when I get back if you are unable
>  to.
>  http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/music/2012-September/001346.html
>
> >  thanks again. 
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[Brendan Jones]

On 02/01/2013 11:42 PM, Brian Monroe wrote:
>  They're not meant strictly to be used function icons. They
> certainly can
>  be used for that, but that wasn't my initial thought in designing them
>
>  I have them in GIMP and I can share that later on with others if you're
>  interested.
>
>  I agree in that they do look a little dirty. Lightening up that brushed
>  metal layer will be easy.
>
>  The PNG files are just something I picked arbitrarily to place in the
>  email. I can output them to virtually any icon/format.  I just thought
>  it might be best for throwing inline in an email.
>
>  Christopher - Thanks for the feedback on the drums. That is by far the
>  one I struggled with the most. I wanted a full drum kit and not just a
>  snare/single drum. Looking at the simple ones, it'd be difficult not to
>  copy the Rockband drum logo. I wanted to stay as far away from that as
>  possible. I also figured that even on the splash screen the images will
>  be 25-50% the size so most of that detail will be lost and I won't have
>  to worry about it. (similar to the strap buttons on the guitar). But
>  I'll try to mull it over and see if I can think of something else that
>  might get us where we need it.
>
>  -Everyone- I really appreciate the feedback! Great ideas/Input! Keep it
>  coming if you think of anything else. 
Hi Brian,

thought I'd give your icons a run in ksplash and the multimedia menus.

If you want ideas for more icons, those that match the multimedia menu 
noes are a good start.

So far I'm not sure the icons lend themselves to the KDM ksplash theme 
in there current state, there is not much contrast with the current 
theme background, however, this may not be the case with the F18 
wallpapers (whatever they turn out to be). Althoug you can pretty much 
guarantee there'll be a bit of blue in there ;)

All in all like em, and think there a good start. Thanks for the effort!

Posting some screenshots here for people to comment.

http://bsjones.fedorapeople.org/fedora-jam-backgrounds/kde-multimediamenu...

http://bsjones.fedorapeople.org/fedora-jam-backgrounds/ksplash-icon-demo-...

http://bsjones.fedorapeople.org/fedora-jam-backgrounds/ksplash-icon-demo-...

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[Brian Monroe]

YEAH!

I got distracted with work. (I had two 15 hr days at work this week) but
I'll fix those icons to brighten them today and lunch and email them out.


On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Brendan Jones <brendan.jones.it(a)gmail.com&gt;wrote:

>  On 02/01/2013 11:42 PM, Brian Monroe wrote:
>
> > They're not meant strictly to be used function icons. They certainly can
> > be used for that, but that wasn't my initial thought in designing them
> >
> > I have them in GIMP and I can share that later on with others if you're
> > interested.
> >
> > I agree in that they do look a little dirty. Lightening up that brushed
> > metal layer will be easy.
> >
> > The PNG files are just something I picked arbitrarily to place in the
> > email. I can output them to virtually any icon/format.  I just thought
> > it might be best for throwing inline in an email.
> >
> > Christopher - Thanks for the feedback on the drums. That is by far the
> > one I struggled with the most. I wanted a full drum kit and not just a
> > snare/single drum. Looking at the simple ones, it'd be difficult not to
> > copy the Rockband drum logo. I wanted to stay as far away from that as
> > possible. I also figured that even on the splash screen the images will
> > be 25-50% the size so most of that detail will be lost and I won't have
> > to worry about it. (similar to the strap buttons on the guitar). But
> > I'll try to mull it over and see if I can think of something else that
> > might get us where we need it.
> >
> > -Everyone- I really appreciate the feedback! Great ideas/Input! Keep it
> > coming if you think of anything else.
> >
>
>  Hi Brian,
>
>  thought I'd give your icons a run in ksplash and the multimedia menus.
>
>  If you want ideas for more icons, those that match the multimedia menu
>  noes are a good start.
>
>  So far I'm not sure the icons lend themselves to the KDM ksplash theme in
>  there current state, there is not much contrast with the current theme
>  background, however, this may not be the case with the F18 wallpapers
>  (whatever they turn out to be). Althoug you can pretty much guarantee
>  there'll be a bit of blue in there ;)
>
>  All in all like em, and think there a good start. Thanks for the effort!
>
>  Posting some screenshots here for people to comment.
>
>  http://bsjones.fedorapeople.**org/fedora-jam-backgrounds/**
>
> kde-multimediamenu-sample.png<http://bsjones.fedorapeople.org/fedora-j...
>
>  http://bsjones.fedorapeople.**org/fedora-jam-backgrounds/**
>
> ksplash-icon-demo-large.png<http://bsjones.fedorapeople.org/fedora-jam...
>
>  http://bsjones.fedorapeople.**org/fedora-jam-backgrounds/**
>
> ksplash-icon-demo-normal1.png<http://bsjones.fedorapeople.org/fedora-j...
>
>
>
>
>
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[Brian Monroe]

Also quick note: It's easy to change the color from Blue to something else.
What colors would you like?


On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Brian Monroe <briancmonroe(a)gmail.com&gt;wrote:

>  YEAH!
>
>  I got distracted with work. (I had two 15 hr days at work this week) but
>  I'll fix those icons to brighten them today and lunch and email them out.
>
>
>  On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Brendan Jones <brendan.jones.it(a)gmail.com&gt;wrote:
>
> > On 02/01/2013 11:42 PM, Brian Monroe wrote:
> >
> >> They're not meant strictly to be used function icons. They certainly can
> >> be used for that, but that wasn't my initial thought in designing them
> >>
> >> I have them in GIMP and I can share that later on with others if you're
> >> interested.
> >>
> >> I agree in that they do look a little dirty. Lightening up that brushed
> >> metal layer will be easy.
> >>
> >> The PNG files are just something I picked arbitrarily to place in the
> >> email. I can output them to virtually any icon/format.  I just thought
> >> it might be best for throwing inline in an email.
> >>
> >> Christopher - Thanks for the feedback on the drums. That is by far the
> >> one I struggled with the most. I wanted a full drum kit and not just a
> >> snare/single drum. Looking at the simple ones, it'd be difficult not to
> >> copy the Rockband drum logo. I wanted to stay as far away from that as
> >> possible. I also figured that even on the splash screen the images will
> >> be 25-50% the size so most of that detail will be lost and I won't have
> >> to worry about it. (similar to the strap buttons on the guitar). But
> >> I'll try to mull it over and see if I can think of something else that
> >> might get us where we need it.
> >>
> >> -Everyone- I really appreciate the feedback! Great ideas/Input! Keep it
> >> coming if you think of anything else.
> >>
> >
> > Hi Brian,
> >
> > thought I'd give your icons a run in ksplash and the multimedia menus.
> >
> > If you want ideas for more icons, those that match the multimedia menu
> > noes are a good start.
> >
> > So far I'm not sure the icons lend themselves to the KDM ksplash theme in
> > there current state, there is not much contrast with the current theme
> > background, however, this may not be the case with the F18 wallpapers
> > (whatever they turn out to be). Althoug you can pretty much guarantee
> > there'll be a bit of blue in there ;)
> >
> > All in all like em, and think there a good start. Thanks for the effort!
> >
> > Posting some screenshots here for people to comment.
> >
> > http://bsjones.fedorapeople.**org/fedora-jam-backgrounds/**
> >
> kde-multimediamenu-sample.png<http://bsjones.fedorapeople.org/fedora-j...
> >
> > http://bsjones.fedorapeople.**org/fedora-jam-backgrounds/**
> >
> ksplash-icon-demo-large.png<http://bsjones.fedorapeople.org/fedora-jam...
> >
> > http://bsjones.fedorapeople.**org/fedora-jam-backgrounds/**
> >
> ksplash-icon-demo-normal1.png<http://bsjones.fedorapeople.org/fedora-j...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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[Brian Monroe]

So... I looked at saving these as an svg. Turns out that they all need to
be vectored so I'll have to import them to inkscape, vector them then save
them as SVG. They have to be vectored by hand which means it'll take a
little while to get everything right.

Let me know what you think of these ones though.


On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Brian Monroe <briancmonroe(a)gmail.com&gt;wrote:

>  Also quick note: It's easy to change the color from Blue to
> something
>  else. What colors would you like?
>
>
>  On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Brian Monroe <briancmonroe(a)gmail.com&gt;wrote:
>
> > YEAH!
> >
> > I got distracted with work. (I had two 15 hr days at work this week) but
> > I'll fix those icons to brighten them today and lunch and email them out.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Brendan Jones <brendan.jones.it(a)gmail.com
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> On 02/01/2013 11:42 PM, Brian Monroe wrote:
> >>
> >>> They're not meant strictly to be used function icons. They certainly can
> >>> be used for that, but that wasn't my initial thought in designing them
> >>>
> >>> I have them in GIMP and I can share that later on with others if you're
> >>> interested.
> >>>
> >>> I agree in that they do look a little dirty. Lightening up that brushed
> >>> metal layer will be easy.
> >>>
> >>> The PNG files are just something I picked arbitrarily to place in the
> >>> email. I can output them to virtually any icon/format.  I just thought
> >>> it might be best for throwing inline in an email.
> >>>
> >>> Christopher - Thanks for the feedback on the drums. That is by far the
> >>> one I struggled with the most. I wanted a full drum kit and not just a
> >>> snare/single drum. Looking at the simple ones, it'd be difficult not to
> >>> copy the Rockband drum logo. I wanted to stay as far away from that as
> >>> possible. I also figured that even on the splash screen the images will
> >>> be 25-50% the size so most of that detail will be lost and I won't have
> >>> to worry about it. (similar to the strap buttons on the guitar). But
> >>> I'll try to mull it over and see if I can think of something else that
> >>> might get us where we need it.
> >>>
> >>> -Everyone- I really appreciate the feedback! Great ideas/Input! Keep it
> >>> coming if you think of anything else.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Hi Brian,
> >>
> >> thought I'd give your icons a run in ksplash and the multimedia menus.
> >>
> >> If you want ideas for more icons, those that match the multimedia menu
> >> noes are a good start.
> >>
> >> So far I'm not sure the icons lend themselves to the KDM ksplash theme
> >> in there current state, there is not much contrast with the current theme
> >> background, however, this may not be the case with the F18 wallpapers
> >> (whatever they turn out to be). Althoug you can pretty much guarantee
> >> there'll be a bit of blue in there ;)
> >>
> >> All in all like em, and think there a good start. Thanks for the effort!
> >>
> >> Posting some screenshots here for people to comment.
> >>
> >> http://bsjones.fedorapeople.**org/fedora-jam-backgrounds/**
> >>
> kde-multimediamenu-sample.png<http://bsjones.fedorapeople.org/fedora-j...
> >>
> >> http://bsjones.fedorapeople.**org/fedora-jam-backgrounds/**
> >>
> ksplash-icon-demo-large.png<http://bsjones.fedorapeople.org/fedora-jam...
> >>
> >> http://bsjones.fedorapeople.**org/fedora-jam-backgrounds/**
> >>
> ksplash-icon-demo-normal1.png<http://bsjones.fedorapeople.org/fedora-j...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >
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>

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[Brendan Jones]

On 02/08/2013 10:16 PM, Brian Monroe wrote:
>  So... I looked at saving these as an svg. Turns out that they all
> need
>  to be vectored so I'll have to import them to inkscape, vector them then
>  save them as SVG. They have to be vectored by hand which means it'll
>  take a little while to get everything right.
>
>  Let me know what you think of these ones though.
>
>  
Nice, I'll run them up against the background and send you a screen shot.


I wouldn't bother creating svg's - 256x256 can scale pretty well in 
either direction. If we need to we can use icontool or something to 
create other sizes.