Re: [Fedora-music-list] Another background idea

[Christopher Antila]

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On 19/09/12 04:18 PM, Brendan Jones wrote:
>  On 09/19/2012 02:05 AM, Christopher Antila wrote:
> > On 18/09/12 02:06 PM, Brendan Jones wrote:
> >> On 09/18/2012 08:03 PM, Brendan Jones wrote:
> >>> The author has granted me permission to use this also (a
> >>> friend):
> >>> 
> >>>
> http://www.omegachildproductions.com/images/phocagallery/thumbs/phoca_thu...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>>  
Problem is there's an iMac in the pic.... oh well.
> > 
> > And a Mac Pro, all the other equipment, and a white guy. This
> > image is, however, an excellent addition to the collage we'll
> > hopefully have in the future.
> > 
> > Did we ever look up the specifics of "no people" in Fedora
> > branding?
> > 
> > 
> > Christopher.
>  
>  Really not sure what you are implying by the white guy comment. 
I'm going to
have to decline a response for now, sorry.

>  I can barely make out the logo of the Mac but if you can pick the
>  rest of the equipment I'll be impressed (I know it intimately). 
Admittedly, the
best I can do is "this keyboard looks very similar to
other keyboards of Brand X," and even at that I don't want to
embarrass myself in the permanent public record of THE INTERNET.

>  Anyway we can't use it. But I threw it in for ideas anyway
I'm all for ideas but, like everybody else, short on spare time. And
that's what we need right now... somebody with some spare time.


Christopher.
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Another background idea

[Ian Malone]

On 20 September 2012 02:42, Christopher R. Antila
<crantila(a)fedoraproject.org&gt; wrote:
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>  On 19/09/12 04:18 PM, Brendan Jones wrote:
> > On 09/19/2012 02:05 AM, Christopher Antila wrote:
> >> On 18/09/12 02:06 PM, Brendan Jones wrote:
> >>> On 09/18/2012 08:03 PM, Brendan Jones wrote:
> >>>> The author has granted me permission to use this also (a
> >>>> friend):
> >>>>
> >>>>
> http://www.omegachildproductions.com/images/phocagallery/thumbs/phoca_thu...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>>
>  Problem is there's an iMac in the pic.... oh well. 
Running Fedora of course...
;)

> >>
> >> And a Mac Pro, all the other equipment, and a white guy. This
> >> image is, however, an excellent addition to the collage we'll
> >> hopefully have in the future.
> >> 

For what it's worth this is my current background on F17:
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/ohyNjNmOzRa5c0sg8JLmVOPFHzJ9cFFhbUJ...
(CC BY-SA)

Did have a bit of a play at icons for the splash, but I'm not a
graphic designer and it looked pretty amateur (also couldn't find a
good way of doing the fade-in, the ksplasher/ksplasherx program isn't
great, not sure what's actually used). A selection from the
media-related KDE icons might be a solution.

-- 
imalone
http://ibmalone.blogspot.co.uk

Another background idea

[Brendan Jones]

On 09/20/2012 06:51 PM, Ian Malone wrote:

>  For what it's worth this is my current background on F17:
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/ohyNjNmOzRa5c0sg8JLmVOPFHzJ9cFFhbUJ...
>  (CC BY-SA)
>
>  Did have a bit of a play at icons for the splash, but I'm not a
>  graphic designer and it looked pretty amateur (also couldn't find a
>  good way of doing the fade-in, the ksplasher/ksplasherx program isn't
>  great, not sure what's actually used). A selection from the
>  media-related KDE icons might be a solution.
>  
Nice - maybe we could give it a blue tint! Great idea

I recommend downloading the source of the existing KDE themes - gives 
you a good idea of how its done ...

Another background idea

[Ian Malone]

On 20 September 2012 18:14, Brendan Jones <brendan.jones.it(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  On 09/20/2012 06:51 PM, Ian Malone wrote:
>  
> > Did have a bit of a play at icons for the splash, but I'm not
> a
> > graphic designer and it looked pretty amateur (also couldn't find a
> > good way of doing the fade-in, the ksplasher/ksplasherx program isn't
> > great, not sure what's actually used). A selection from the
> > media-related KDE icons might be a solution.
> >
>  Nice - maybe we could give it a blue tint! Great idea
>
>  I recommend downloading the source of the existing KDE themes - gives you a
>  good idea of how its done ... 
Well, I can see what files are used, but not how the reflections and
fade-in animation frames are generated from the source icon (the
fade-in in the default theme seems to have some blurring applied).
It's possible to rig something up but I've asked at the kde-artists
list if there's any standard recipe:
http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-artists&m=134822672328634&w=2
(archive might only be available to list members, will report back if
I get an answer)

-- 
imalone
http://ibmalone.blogspot.co.uk

Another background idea

[Brendan Jones]

On 09/21/2012 01:44 PM, Ian Malone wrote:
>  On 20 September 2012 18:14, Brendan Jones
> <brendan.jones.it(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
> > On 09/20/2012 06:51 PM, Ian Malone wrote:
> >
>
> >> Did have a bit of a play at icons for the splash, but I'm not a
> >> graphic designer and it looked pretty amateur (also couldn't find a
> >> good way of doing the fade-in, the ksplasher/ksplasherx program isn't
> >> great, not sure what's actually used). A selection from the
> >> media-related KDE icons might be a solution.
> >>
> > Nice - maybe we could give it a blue tint! Great idea
> >
> > I recommend downloading the source of the existing KDE themes - gives you a
> > good idea of how its done ...
>
>  Well, I can see what files are used, but not how the reflections and
>  fade-in animation frames are generated from the source icon (the
>  fade-in in the default theme seems to have some blurring applied).
>  It's possible to rig something up but I've asked at the kde-artists
>  list if there's any standard recipe:
>  http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-artists&m=134822672328634&w=2
>  (archive might only be available to list members, will report back if
>  I get an answer)
>  
To be honest I'm not sure how it works either - but I have a little idea.

I copied the whole BeefyMiracle theme a while back and just grepped the 
name out of all the text files and replaced with FedoraJam - no package 
submitted yet - this will eventually point to the backgrounds as well 
and be included by default on the kickstart.

Happy for you to request access via the Music Creation group in FAS, and 
you can update as you see fit.

A link to the animations you can find here:

http://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/music-creation.git/tree/fedora-jam-kde-t...

Another background idea

[Ian Malone]

On 21 September 2012 13:11, Brendan Jones <brendan.jones.it(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  On 09/21/2012 01:44 PM, Ian Malone wrote:
> >
> > On 20 September 2012 18:14, Brendan Jones <brendan.jones.it(a)gmail.com&gt;
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> On 09/20/2012 06:51 PM, Ian Malone wrote:
> >>
> >
> >>> Did have a bit of a play at icons for the splash, but I'm not a
> >>> graphic designer and it looked pretty amateur (also couldn't find a
> >>> good way of doing the fade-in, the ksplasher/ksplasherx program isn't
> >>> great, not sure what's actually used). A selection from the
> >>> media-related KDE icons might be a solution.
> >>>
> >> Nice - maybe we could give it a blue tint! Great idea
> >>
> >> I recommend downloading the source of the existing KDE themes - gives you
> >> a
> >> good idea of how its done ...
> >
> >
> > Well, I can see what files are used, but not how the reflections and
> > fade-in animation frames are generated from the source icon (the
> > fade-in in the default theme seems to have some blurring applied).
> > It's possible to rig something up but I've asked at the kde-artists
> > list if there's any standard recipe:
> > http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-artists&m=134822672328634&w=2
> > (archive might only be available to list members, will report back if
> > I get an answer)
> >
>  To be honest I'm not sure how it works either - but I have a little idea.
>
>  I copied the whole BeefyMiracle theme a while back and just grepped the name
>  out of all the text files and replaced with FedoraJam - no package submitted
>  yet - this will eventually point to the backgrounds as well and be included
>  by default on the kickstart.
>
>  Happy for you to request access via the Music Creation group in FAS, and you
>  can update as you see fit.
>
>  A link to the animations you can find here:
>
>
> http://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/music-creation.git/tree/fedora-jam-kde-t...
>  
Answers:
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Ivan Čukić:
You can try searching for theme generators for it on kde-look (I remember
there being a few scripts).

For easier theme creation, you can use ksplashqml instead, it is much more
pleasant - reflections and all are rather trivial to do.

Cheerio,
Ivan
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Nuno Pinheiro:
---
>  For easier theme creation, you can use ksplashqml instead, it is much
> more
>  pleasant - reflections and all are rather trivial to do.
>
>  Cheerio,
>  Ivan 
yeah but i did them manualy, yeah boring work :)
---

I probably wont have much time to look at doing this till mid October,
which probably doesn't line up well with release deadlines. ksplashqml
is in F18 and does look a bit easier. Doing them manually is
plausible, but I'm not sure when I'd be able to find the time.

-- 
imalone
http://ibmalone.blogspot.co.uk

Another background idea

[Ian Malone]

On 26 September 2012 11:12, Ian Malone <ibmalone(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  On 21 September 2012 13:11, Brendan Jones
> <brendan.jones.it(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
> > On 09/21/2012 01:44 PM, Ian Malone wrote:
> >>
> >> On 20 September 2012 18:14, Brendan Jones <brendan.jones.it(a)gmail.com&gt;
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 09/20/2012 06:51 PM, Ian Malone wrote:
> >>>
> >>
> >>>> A selection from the
> >>>> media-related KDE icons might be a solution.
> >>>> 

>  Ivan Čukić:
>  You can try searching for theme generators for it on kde-look (I remember
>  there being a few scripts).
>
>  For easier theme creation, you can use ksplashqml instead, it is much more
>  pleasant - reflections and all are rather trivial to do.
>  
>  I probably wont have much time to look at doing this till mid
> October,
>  which probably doesn't line up well with release deadlines. ksplashqml
>  is in F18 and does look a bit easier. Doing them manually is
>  plausible, but I'm not sure when I'd be able to find the time.
>  
Hi, Brendan's been good enough to put this up on his fedorapeople space:
http://bsjones.fedorapeople.org/F-Jam.tar.xz

It's a pretty basic QML splash screen which works in F18, I'm not sure
about earlier versions. It just pulls in some of the standard KDE and
Fedora icons and has an ImageMagick script to do the reflections
beforehand (they can be done with QML but it's a bit cumbersome for a
first pass and QML in F18 doesn't have support for some of the more
clever OpenGL stuff that would make it easier). To test, untar into
/usr/share/kde4/apps/ksplash/Themes/ then do
ksplashqml F-Jam --test

(useful trick, the ksplashqml / ksplashx commands look for the name
relative to /usr/share/kde4/apps/ksplash/Themes/ so if, for example,
you want to test a theme directory you're working in, you can do
$ ksplashqml ../../../../../../`pwd` --test
)

Feel free to have a play! Also try
https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kde-workspace/repository/revisions/...
for ideas. Do not do what I did and spend ages trying to get
qt.labs.shaders or Qt3D modules to work, it seems ksplashqml does not
provide a GL view, so the first one doesn't work and the second one is
not included in F18. This might work:
https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-8968
QML documentation:
http://doc.qt.digia.com/4.7-snapshot/qdeclarativeelements.html
QML examples:
http://doc.qt.digia.com/4.7-snapshot/qdeclarativeexamples.html

Also Brendan has now got a white version of the wave background, so
there's a choice of light and dark looks:
http://bsjones.fedorapeople.org/fedora-jam-1920-1080-blue-white2.png

-- 
imalone
http://ibmalone.blogspot.co.uk

Another background idea

[Ian Malone]

On 28 September 2012 22:03, Ian Malone <ibmalone(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  On 26 September 2012 11:12, Ian Malone <ibmalone(a)gmail.com&gt;
> wrote:
> > On 21 September 2012 13:11, Brendan Jones <brendan.jones.it(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
> >> On 09/21/2012 01:44 PM, Ian Malone wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 20 September 2012 18:14, Brendan Jones <brendan.jones.it(a)gmail.com&gt;
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 09/20/2012 06:51 PM, Ian Malone wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>>> A selection from the
> >>>>> media-related KDE icons might be a solution.
> >>>>>
>
>
> > Ivan Čukić:
> > You can try searching for theme generators for it on kde-look (I remember
> > there being a few scripts).
> >
> > For easier theme creation, you can use ksplashqml instead, it is much more
> > pleasant - reflections and all are rather trivial to do.
> >
>
> > I probably wont have much time to look at doing this till mid October,
> > which probably doesn't line up well with release deadlines. ksplashqml
> > is in F18 and does look a bit easier. Doing them manually is
> > plausible, but I'm not sure when I'd be able to find the time.
> >
>
>  Hi, Brendan's been good enough to put this up on his fedorapeople space:
>  http://bsjones.fedorapeople.org/F-Jam.tar.xz
>
>  It's a pretty basic QML splash screen which works in F18, I'm not sure
>  about earlier versions. It just pulls in some of the standard KDE and
>  Fedora icons and has an ImageMagick script to do the reflections
>  beforehand (they can be done with QML but it's a bit cumbersome for a
>  first pass and QML in F18 doesn't have support for some of the more
>  clever OpenGL stuff that would make it easier). To test, untar into
>  /usr/share/kde4/apps/ksplash/Themes/ then do
>  ksplashqml F-Jam --test
>
>  (useful trick, the ksplashqml / ksplashx commands look for the name
>  relative to /usr/share/kde4/apps/ksplash/Themes/ so if, for example,
>  you want to test a theme directory you're working in, you can do
>  $ ksplashqml ../../../../../../`pwd` --test
>  )
>
>  Feel free to have a play! Also try
>
> https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kde-workspace/repository/revisions/...
>  for ideas. Do not do what I did and spend ages trying to get
>  qt.labs.shaders or Qt3D modules to work, it seems ksplashqml does not
>  provide a GL view, so the first one doesn't work and the second one is
>  not included in F18. This might work:
>  https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-8968 
Reflections, the same idea but a bit easier to use (once you've
created the extra file for the component):
http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Wiki/Creating_a_reflected_image_...
However it would still need more work to make it work with
transparency on a background.

-- 
imalone
http://ibmalone.blogspot.co.uk