On Sun, 2006-10-01 at 05:18 -0700, Anthony Green wrote:
On Sun, 2006-10-01 at 00:24 -0500, Wade Nelson wrote:
> I just found out about this project, very cool... I'm currently running
> FC5+PlanetCCRMA on my desktop workstation.
> 1) is there a repository for fedora-music project yet or will it become
> available as it is merged into extras?
We're just putting things that make sense into Extras. Help is
> 1b) on a production system should I stick with CCRMA for now?
Fedora Extras only provides a fraction of the total CCRMA repo, and it's
unlikely it will ever contain everything in that repository (kernel
packages, for instance).
In places where there's overlap (where we've put something in Extras
from CCRMA), I don't think there's any reason to prefer the CCRMA
packages over Fedora Extras (unless you're running FC4 or lower). I
think all of the Extras packages have higher version/release numbers
than the CCRMA packages anyways, so yum should just sort this out for
Are the packages in Extras built with the same support for LADSPA, JACK,
and such; i.e. is the functionality the same as the CCRMA packages?
> 1c) is the project currently targeting FC5 or is it targeting
> compatibility with FC6 and future versions of Fedora Core?
I think everything so far has gone into FE5 and development (FE6). Some
packages were also placed in FE4.
> 2) As this project gets under way will there be a kernel
> featuring the real-time preemption patch by Ingo Molnar? This has made
> a huge difference for me and is essential to making my system actually
> usable for live recording.
There are no plans to put kernels into Fedora Extras. We just don't
have the infrastructure or policy to support this in Fedora Extras. I'm
hopeful that Ingo's patches will get merged upstream some day. Of
course, this may take years. Who knows.
So far I've been using (FC5) " yum --exclude='*kernel*' update "
I've been running with strictly the CCRMA repos enabled, since I noticed
for one that the CCRMA repo looked like it had a modified version of
"The core packages include the patched kernel itself and newer,
more up to date versions of the ALSA sound drivers (including
some tools and packages that are not part of the normal Fedora
Core install). It also brings in a patched version of PAM that
has access to realtime scheduling and memory locking for all
"The Planet CCRMA package collection is managed through the Yum
utilities. You will need to update yum to a newer version that
has support for installing older kernels (you need this to be
able to later install the core components of Planet CCRMA
(realtime kernel, etc, etc)."
Is this now deprecated?
And finally, and again from:
"If you have not already done it, you should update your machine
to the latest version of the Fedora Core packages. They will
provide important security and functionality upgrades. The
Planet CCRMA repository includes the Fedora Core updates, you
can install what is available..."
Having had ONLY planetccrma, planetcore, planetextras, and planetupdates
repos enabled (and system up to date), I enabled Extras repo and the
only updates currently available for the software I use are lash,
ladspa, and python-mutagen. I notice however that Extras has many of
the same versions of packages that I have installed, less the 'ccrma'
tag in the filename.
If you're interested in helping move things to Extras, just shout
I've no experience in building packages, but as long as the Extras
packages offer the same functionality as the CCRMA packages I'd be happy
to enable the Extras repo again and help test the apps that I actually
know well how to use, such as JACK & LADSPA tools, Ardour, Hydrogen, etc
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