Adding entries of packages to the ofiicial Musicians guide.

[Vishnu M]

After going through the music digest volumes I believe that some of
the packages might not make it to the official repository due to
Fedora Packaging Guidelines and some of them might be really good.

I do not know if there is a provision for providing additional details
in Fedora Musicians guide for those packages that does not make it to
the official repository.

If there is a possibility, then for those packages we can make entries
to the musicians guide which will provide additional resources and
methodologies to build and run those packages on their system which
will inturn reduce there hassles.

Again, we can provide details about the script(or its DE frontend) and
its consequences in the musicians guide if it allows.

[Christopher Antila]

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Hi:

If I understand you correctly, we:
(A) already have that (see link below), and
(B) are not supposed to have it.

https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/16/html/Musicians_Guide/chap-...

Official Fedora documentation is only supposed to document packages in
the official Fedora repository. If we followed that rule, the
SuperCollider, Qtractor, and real-time kernel chapters would not be
allowed.

In the future, once SuperCollider and Qtractor make it to the official
Fedora repository, I will remove everything about Planet CCRMA at
Home. The only reason we have non-Fedora software now is that I didn't
know about the rule until after the Guide was published. And because
nobody told me to remove it.

What we can do is replace the "Planet CCRMA" chapter with a
"non-Fedora software" chapter. We can explain what software exists in
other repositories, and include a link to the Fedora Wiki. On the
Fedora Wiki, we *can* provide instructions for installing non-Fedora
software (as on the Flash page, for example).

It's not the most straight-forward solution for users, but I think
it's workable. Does anybody else have an alternate suggestion?


Christopher.

On 04/15/2012 12:17 PM, Vishnu M wrote:
>  After going through the music digest volumes I believe that some
>  of the packages might not make it to the official repository due
>  to Fedora Packaging Guidelines and some of them might be really
>  good.
>  
>  I do not know if there is a provision for providing additional
>  details in Fedora Musicians guide for those packages that does not
>  make it to the official repository.
>  
>  If there is a possibility, then for those packages we can make
>  entries to the musicians guide which will provide additional
>  resources and methodologies to build and run those packages on
>  their system which will inturn reduce there hassles.
>  
>  Again, we can provide details about the script(or its DE frontend)
>  and its consequences in the musicians guide if it allows. 
>  _______________________________________________ music mailing list 
>  music(a)lists.fedoraproject.org 
> >  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/music
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[Klaatu]

Hey all. This isn't exactly apropos to this issue, but I saw "Qtractor" 
mentioned and figured I would mention this:  I recently completed about 100 
pages of Qtractor documentation (licensed under the GNU Free Documentation, of 
course). 

It's available on qtractor.sourceforge.net but I also maintain all of the 
docbook source code (and by default I use Publican xsl, and I borrowed a lot 
from the Publican infrastructure, so the code should be near-Publican ready) 
on gitorious.org/slackermedia

It seems it can't become a part of the official guide since Qtractor isn't an 
official package, but in the future, if it does, now you know where to find 
existing documentation :-)


-- klaatu


>  Hi:
>  
>  If I understand you correctly, we:
>  (A) already have that (see link below), and
>  (B) are not supposed to have it.
>  
>  https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/16/html/Musicians_Guide/chap-Mu
>  sicians_Guide-Planet_CCRMA_at_Home.html
>  
>  Official Fedora documentation is only supposed to document packages in
>  the official Fedora repository. If we followed that rule, the
>  SuperCollider, Qtractor, and real-time kernel chapters would not be
>  allowed.
>  
>  In the future, once SuperCollider and Qtractor make it to the official
>  Fedora repository, I will remove everything about Planet CCRMA at
>  Home. The only reason we have non-Fedora software now is that I didn't
>  know about the rule until after the Guide was published. And because
>  nobody told me to remove it.
>  
>  What we can do is replace the "Planet CCRMA" chapter with a
>  "non-Fedora software" chapter. We can explain what software exists in
>  other repositories, and include a link to the Fedora Wiki. On the
>  Fedora Wiki, we *can* provide instructions for installing non-Fedora
>  software (as on the Flash page, for example).
>  
>  It's not the most straight-forward solution for users, but I think
>  it's workable. Does anybody else have an alternate suggestion?
>  
>  
>  Christopher.
>  
>  On 04/15/2012 12:17 PM, Vishnu M wrote:
>  > After going through the music digest volumes I believe that some
>  > of the packages might not make it to the official repository due
>  > to Fedora Packaging Guidelines and some of them might be really
>  > good.
>  > 
>  > I do not know if there is a provision for providing additional
>  > details in Fedora Musicians guide for those packages that does not
>  > make it to the official repository.
>  > 
>  > If there is a possibility, then for those packages we can make
>  > entries to the musicians guide which will provide additional
>  > resources and methodologies to build and run those packages on
>  > their system which will inturn reduce there hassles.
>  > 
>  > Again, we can provide details about the script(or its DE frontend)
>  > and its consequences in the musicians guide if it allows.
>  > _______________________________________________ music mailing list
>  > music(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>  > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/music
>  
>  _______________________________________________
>  music mailing list
>  music(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
>  https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/music 
- klaatu

[Christopher Antila]

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Or we could, you know, just use the Qtractor chapter we already have.

https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/16/html/Musicians_Guide/chap-...


Christopher.

On 04/15/2012 07:34 PM, Klaatu wrote:
>  Hey all. This isn't exactly apropos to this issue, but I saw
>  "Qtractor" mentioned and figured I would mention this:  I recently
>  completed about 100 pages of Qtractor documentation (licensed under
>  the GNU Free Documentation, of course).
>  
>  It's available on qtractor.sourceforge.net but I also maintain all
>  of the docbook source code (and by default I use Publican xsl, and
>  I borrowed a lot from the Publican infrastructure, so the code
>  should be near-Publican ready) on gitorious.org/slackermedia
>  
>  It seems it can't become a part of the official guide since
>  Qtractor isn't an official package, but in the future, if it does,
>  now you know where to find existing documentation :-)
>  
>  
>  -- klaatu
>  
>  
> > Hi:
> > 
> > If I understand you correctly, we: (A) already have that (see
> > link below), and (B) are not supposed to have it.
> > 
> > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/16/html/Musicians_Guide/chap-Mu
> >
> >  
sicians_Guide-Planet_CCRMA_at_Home.html
> > 
> > Official Fedora documentation is only supposed to document
> > packages in the official Fedora repository. If we followed that
> > rule, the SuperCollider, Qtractor, and real-time kernel chapters
> > would not be allowed.
> > 
> > In the future, once SuperCollider and Qtractor make it to the
> > official Fedora repository, I will remove everything about Planet
> > CCRMA at Home. The only reason we have non-Fedora software now is
> > that I didn't know about the rule until after the Guide was
> > published. And because nobody told me to remove it.
> > 
> > What we can do is replace the "Planet CCRMA" chapter with a 
> > "non-Fedora software" chapter. We can explain what software
> > exists in other repositories, and include a link to the Fedora
> > Wiki. On the Fedora Wiki, we *can* provide instructions for
> > installing non-Fedora software (as on the Flash page, for
> > example).
> > 
> > It's not the most straight-forward solution for users, but I
> > think it's workable. Does anybody else have an alternate
> > suggestion?
> > 
> > 
> > Christopher.
> > 
> > On 04/15/2012 12:17 PM, Vishnu M wrote:
> >> After going through the music digest volumes I believe that
> >> some of the packages might not make it to the official
> >> repository due to Fedora Packaging Guidelines and some of them
> >> might be really good.
> >> 
> >> I do not know if there is a provision for providing additional 
> >> details in Fedora Musicians guide for those packages that does
> >> not make it to the official repository.
> >> 
> >> If there is a possibility, then for those packages we can make 
> >> entries to the musicians guide which will provide additional 
> >> resources and methodologies to build and run those packages on 
> >> their system which will inturn reduce there hassles.
> >> 
> >> Again, we can provide details about the script(or its DE
> >> frontend) and its consequences in the musicians guide if it
> >> allows. _______________________________________________ music
> >> mailing list music(a)lists.fedoraproject.org 
> >> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/music
> > 
> > _______________________________________________ music mailing
> > list music(a)lists.fedoraproject.org 
> > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/music
>  - klaatu _______________________________________________ music
>  mailing list music(a)lists.fedoraproject.org 
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