qa beat coming later tonight
by Adam Williamson
see topic - qa beat's coming in a few hours. got a hockey game to watch
first!
note that as an unavoidable result of said hockey game, qa beat will be
written on top of a couple of beers...
--
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net
15 years
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Fedora Weekly News #169
by Oisin Feeley
Fedora Weekly News Issue 169
Welcome to Fedora Weekly News Issue 169 for the week ending March 29th,
2009.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue169
This week in "What Happened Last Summer?" Developments conveys an
announcement on the Fedora intrusion of 2008. Announcements reels-off a
list of interesting "Upcoming Events". PlanetFedora selects choice blog
posts including Richard W.M. Jones' RPM-dependency visualizer. Marketing
reports that "Fedora has the Most New Features". Ambassadors reports
that "Fedora is on the move in Italy". QualityAssurance shares the
results of "Test Days" for the nouveau driver and other outstanding
work. Translation catches-up on problems with Persian l10n and more.
Artwork asks is it too late for "A Lion for Leonidas?". Security warns
of a "Firefox Emergency". Virtualization concludes that "KVM and QEMU
Merge Feature Stays in Fedora 11" and on "Web Based libvirt Management"
and a comprehensive "Fedora Virtualization Status Report".
If you are interested in contributing to Fedora Weekly News, please see
our 'join' page[1]. We welcome reader feedback:
fedora-news-list(a)redhat.com
1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/NewsProject/Join
FWN Editorial Team: Pascal Calarco, Oisin Feeley, Huzaifa Sidhpurwala
Contents
1 Fedora Weekly News Issue 169
1.1 Announcements
1.1.1 Fedora Board
1.1.2 Fedora 11
1.1.3 Qt 4.5.0
1.1.4 FUDCon Berlin 2009
1.1.5 Upcoming Events
1.2 Planet Fedora
1.2.1 General
1.3 Marketing
1.3.1 Marketing Meeting Log for 2009-03-24
1.3.2 Fedora on Twitter and Identi.ca
1.3.3 Fedora has the Most New Features
1.4 Ambassadors
1.4.1 Fedora is on the move in Italy
1.4.2 Got Ambassador News?
1.5 QualityAssurance
1.5.1 Test Days
1.5.2 Weekly meetings
1.5.3 Wiki changes
1.5.4 Bugzappers meeting schedule
1.5.5 Triage Days on the Wiki
1.6 Developments
1.6.1 What Happened Last Summer
1.6.2 Emacs Cabal Disables Xorg Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
1.6.3 ZFS-based Upgrades
1.6.4 Repoview Temporarily Bust in Fedora 10
1.6.5 LGPL Qt-4.5 in Fedora 10 and Fedora 9
1.7 Translation
1.7.1 FLP Meeting
1.7.2 FLP Admin Meeting
1.7.3 Anaconda File Ready for Translation
1.7.4 Release Notes Moved in the Repository
1.7.5 PackageKit 0.4.6 version for Fedora 11
1.7.6 New Members in FLP
1.8 Artwork
1.8.1 Preparing for the Berlin FUDCon
1.8.2 A Lion for Leonidas?
1.9 Security Week
1.9.1 Firefox Emergency
1.10 Virtualization
1.10.1 Fedora Virtualization List
1.10.1.1 KVM and QEMU Merge Feature Stays in Fedora 11
1.10.1.2 Fedora Virtualization Status Report
1.10.2 Fedora Xen List
1.10.2.1 Success with Experimental Fedora 10 pv_ops dom0
1.10.2.2 Yum Repository for Experimental Dom0 Kernels
1.10.3 Libvirt List
1.10.3.1 More Formal libvirt Release Scheduling
1.10.3.2 New Release perl-Sys-Virt 0.2.0
1.10.3.3 SCSI Host Pools Patch
1.10.3.4 API for Host Interface Configuration
1.10.3.5 Web Based libvirt Management
== Announcements ==
In this section, we cover announcements from the Fedora Project.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events
Contributing Writer: Max Spevack
=== Fedora Board ===
Our fearless leader[1] reminded[2] the community that the Fedora Board
will be "holding its monthly public meeting on Tuesday, 7 April 2009, at
1800 UTC on IRC Freenode."
Join #fedora-board-meeting to see the Board's conversation.
Join #fedora-board-public to discuss topics and post questions. This
channel is read/write for everyone.
Paul also mentioned a change in the procedure for the meeting. "We're
trying something new (albeit in a minor way) in this meeting. The
moderator will still be available to gather input from the
#fedora-board-public channel, but will voice people, one at a time, in
the queue in the #fedora-board-meeting channel."
1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pfrields
2.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-March/msg00009.html
=== Fedora 11 ===
Jesse Keating[1] announced[2] that the Beta composes are complete, and
that the freeze on Rawhide has been lifted.
Andreas Bierfert[3] announced[4] that opensync was being downgraded to
0.22, as discussed on fedora-devel-list. As a result, maintainers will
need to rebuild "all packages which depend on opensync in some way."
1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JesseKeating
2.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/2009-March/msg00019....
3. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/AndreasBierfert
4.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/2009-March/msg00018....
=== Qt 4.5.0 ===
Kevin Kofler[1] informed[2] the community that, "we are working on
providing Qt 4.5.0 as updates for Fedora 9 and 10." There are several
important pieces of information that anyone who maintains a Qt-4-based
package needs to know. Please read the full announcement.
1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Kkofler
2.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/2009-March/msg00020....
=== FUDCon Berlin 2009 ===
Max Spevack[1] reminded[2] the community about FUDCon Berlin 2009[3],
including registration[4], lodging[5], and speaking[6] opportunities.
1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MaxSpevack
2.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-March/msg00005.html
3. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Berlin_2009
4. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Berlin_2009_attendees
5. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Berlin_2009_lodging
6.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon_Berlin_and_LinuxTag_2009_talks
=== Upcoming Events ===
March 31-April 2: Linux Solutions[1] in Paris, France.
April 1-2: OpenExpo[2] in Bern, Switzerland.
April 15: NYLUG[3] in New York, New York, USA.
April 17-19: Summer Geek Camp 2[4] in Antipolo City, Phillipines.
April 18: BarCamp Rochester[5] in Rochester, New York, USA.
April 19-22: Red Hat EMEA Partner Summit[6] in Malta.
1.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/SolutionsLinux/SolutionsLinux2009
2.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/OpenExpo/OpenExpo2009_Berne
3. http://nylug.org/
4. http://fedora.bluepoint.com.ph/index.php?entry=20090204000843
5. http://barcamprochester.org/
6. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Red_Hat_EMEA_Partner_Summit_2009
== Planet Fedora ==
In this section, we cover the highlights of Planet Fedora - an
aggregation of blogs from Fedora contributors worldwide.
http://planet.fedoraproject.org
Contributing Writer: Adam Batkin
=== General ===
Dave Malcolm developed[1],[2] a command line app called show that allows
for access to various log files through an SQL-like interface. It
supports aggregates and can handle Apache access logs, /var/log/messages
and /var/log/secure and various others using backends from Augeas[3] for
configuration files like /etc/passwd.
Paul W. Frields explained[4] how to convert virtual disk images between
various formats using utilities from qemu.
Rakesh Pandit wrote[5] a "Report for National Institute of Technology
Hamirpur Software Activity Workshop" describing an event where students
were trained in software development using Free and Open Source
Software.
Nicu Buculei announced[6] that the Open Clipart Library has reached its
goal of 10,000 images.
Richard W.M. Jones posted[7] a visualization of RPM dependencies by
size, as part of his quest to build a minimal Fedora installation. A
later followup noted[8] that very different results occur depending on
how the dependencies are traversed (in this case, breadth-first
traversal versus depth-first). He then released[9] a tool,
rpmdepsize[10] to allow users to generate their own dependency
visualizations.
James Morris described[11] some security subsystem changes going into
the 2.6.29 kernel.
Jef Spaleta continued[12] writing about "the NSF workshop on software
sustainability for cyberinfrastructure" and the mismatch that often
occurs between the length of grant funding and expected software
lifetimes and lifecycles. Chitlesh Goorah followed-up[13] with the
abstract of the Fedora Electronic Lab position paper from the workshop.
Chitlesh later posted[14] some information on FEL's place in the open
source Electronic Design Automation (EDA) world.
Luis Villa wrote[15] about "deliberative nirvana and software design
myopia". He cited the White House's Open For Questions[16] site, built
using tools like Google Moderator and App Engine, allowing it to scale
on a technological level without any realistic limitations but with
results that may not perfectly reflect the United States due to
social/demographic limitations of the technology.
1. http://dmalcolm.livejournal.com/1301.html
2. http://dmalcolm.livejournal.com/1704.html
3. http://augeas.net/
4. http://marilyn.frields.org:8080/~paul/wordpress/?p=1548
5. http://rakesh.gnulinuxcentar.org/?p=131
6.
http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/2009/03/mission-accomplished-ocal-10k.html
7. http://rwmj.wordpress.com/2009/03/25/size-of-rpm-dependencies/
8. http://rwmj.wordpress.com/2009/03/25/size-of-rpm-dependencies-2/
9.
http://rwmj.wordpress.com/2009/03/27/rpm-dependency-size-viewer-now-avail...
10. http://et.redhat.com/~rjones/rpmdepsize/
11. http://james-morris.livejournal.com/39909.html
12. http://jspaleta.livejournal.com/38486.html
13.
http://clunixchit.blogspot.com/2009/03/fel-position-paper-for-national-sc...
14. http://clunixchit.blogspot.com/2009/03/how-we-shaped-fel.html
15.
http://tieguy.org/blog/2009/03/28/deliberative-nirvana-and-software-desig...
16. http://www.whitehouse.gov/openforquestions/
== Marketing ==
In this section, we cover the Fedora Marketing Project.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing
Contributing Writer: Kam Salisbury
=== Marketing Meeting Log for 2009-03-24 ===
The meeting log of the 2009-03-24 Fedora Marketing Meeting was made[1]
available.
=== Fedora on Twitter and Identi.ca ===
Fedora on Twitter.com passed 500 followers and Identi.ca 50
followers[2]!
=== Fedora has the Most New Features ===
In another example of Fedora leading the way, a comparison of the Fedora
11 and an upcoming similiar distribution's release shows that Fedora has
the lion's share of new features.[3]
1.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Marketing_meeting_2009-03-24
2.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2009-March/msg00146....
3.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2009-March/msg00232....
== Ambassadors ==
In this section, we cover Fedora Ambassadors Project.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors
Contributing Writer: Larry Cafiero
=== Fedora is on the move in Italy ===
Luca Foppiano's recent blog item[1] outlines developments in Italy.
While Luca mentions that Italy has not yet reached the numbers of the
French and German communities, the Italian community is growing. With
around 7 ambassadors and 10 to 15 regular IRC participants, the
community has put down firm roots in the country.
For 2009, Luca reports that some activities are in the works, like:
* One meeting each month, to keep in touch regularly, have
brainstorming, discussions and involving all interested people.
* Pages on fedora wiki to keep and track internal information like
events and inventory.
"I think we are on the right way," Luca writes. "Stay tuned"
1. http://blog.foppiano.org/2009/03/15/moving-fedora-it-on-rails/
=== Got Ambassador News? ===
Any Ambassador news tips from around the Fedora community can be
submitted to me by e-mailing lcafiero-AT-fedoraproject-DOT-org and I'd
be glad to put it in this weekly report.
== QualityAssurance ==
In this section, we cover the activities of the QA team[1].
Contributing Writer: Adam Williamson
1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA
=== Test Days ===
This week's[1] was on the Noveau driver[2]for NVIDIA video cards, which
will become the default in Fedora 11. Thanks to an excellent turnout,
over 80 sets of results were reported, and several bug reports were
made: some of the issues have already been resolved. The developer
present was Ben Skeggs, and Adam Williamson, James Laska and Will Woods
were present for the QA team.
Next week again will see two test days. The first[3] will be on the
radeon driver for ATI graphics cards, while the second[4] will be on [5]
power management. Live CDs will be available for both test days so
you'll be able to test without a Rawhide installation. The Radeon test
day will be held on Wednesday (2009-03-01) and the Power Management test
day on Thursday (2009-03-02) in the #fedora-qa channel on Freenode IRC.
If you have a Radeon graphics card, please make sure to come along to
the first test day; if you have a laptop, please come to the second. If
you can't make it on the day, please do the tests and fill out your
results on the page another day.
1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days/2009-03-26
2. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NouveauAsDefault
3. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days/2009-04-01
4. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days/2009-04-02
5. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/PowerManagement
=== Weekly meetings ===
The QA group weekly meeting[1] was held on 2009-03-25. Will Woods
reported that the Fedora 11 beta release had slipped.
James Laska reported that packaging work on the Semantic extension for
Mediawiki was progressing, and one package had already passed review. He
also noted that he had created a test Mediawiki instance with the
extension enabled, but had not yet been able to do much testing. Adam
Williamson confirmed that he also had not had time to do much testing.
Adam Williamson reported that planning for the Radeon test day was still
in progress. He also reported that Bugzappers team review of Anaconda
bugs for the Fedora 11 beta release had been successfully completed.
Adam Williamson reported that the Xfce test day was fully planned, and
Kevin Fenzi reported that he had successfully generated some live CD
images for the test day. Adam asked if someone could make sure these
images would be available for download.
Will Woods reported that he had been testing upgrade scenarios for the
Fedora 11 beta release and had found several bugs in this area.
James Laska noted that most critical bugs for the beta release were
already known and being tracked, and re-testing was not necessary for
any known issues. A long discussion followed on the correct place and
format in which to note known issues. The group agreed that known issues
for the beta release should be noted within the beta release notes as
separate sub-headings, and a concerted effort should be made to make
sure that the release notes were referred to in all official,
semi-official and unofficial communications regarding the beta release.
Will Woods' suggestion that this was a job for the <marquee> tag was
roundly rejected.
The Bugzappers group weekly meeting[2] was held on 2009-03-24. It was a
short meeting as several key group members were not able to attend.
Matej Cepl reported that he had consolidated his RHEL and Fedora triage
and signature scripts into a single Greasemonkey script[3]. Other topics
were deferred to future meetings or the mailing list for lack of a
reasonable number of group members to make binding decisions.
The next QA weekly meeting will be held on 2009-04-02 at 1600 UTC (note
reversion to previous meeting time) in #fedora-meeting, and the next
Bugzappers weekly meeting on 2009-04-01 at 1500 UTC in #fedora-meeting.
1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings
2. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Meetings
3.
http://mcepl.fedorapeople.org/scripts/greasemonkey/bugzillaBugTriage.user.js
=== Wiki changes ===
The group discussed Christopher Beland's new How to Triage draft[1], and
Chris made several revisions and improvements. Chris summarized[2]
several remaining questions relating to the page, and Adam Williamson[3]
and Edward Kirk provided feedback[4].
1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Beland/How_to_Triage
2.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-March/msg01105.html
3.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-March/msg01125.html
4.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-March/msg01110.html
=== Bugzappers meeting schedule ===
Adam Williamson requested[1] a final decision on re-scheduling the
Bugzappers group movement, but no final conclusion was yet reached.
1.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-March/msg01108.html
=== Triage Days on the Wiki ===
Adam Williamson apologized for the delay, and announced [1] that a
Triage Day page was now available on the Wiki, explaining the existence
and function of the Bugzappers group's weekly Triage Day.
1.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-March/msg01129.html
== Developments ==
In this section the people, personalities and debates on the
@fedora-devel mailing list are summarized.
Contributing Writer: Oisin Feeley
=== What Happened Last Summer? ===
Paul W. Frields broke radio silence to provide[1] a detailed explanation
of last August's (2008-08-12) security problem. Briefly, a Fedora
Project systems administrator used a pass-phraseless SSH key. This was
copied from the administrator's machine and used to gain access to
Fedora infrastructure. Subsequently trojaned versions of OpenSSH and rpm
were built and deployed on Fedora infrastructure. The investigation
concludes that these packages were detected and removed before any rpms
were built with them or distributed to Fedora users. The full, detailed
communication includes a time-line.
1.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-March/msg00010.html
=== Emacs Cabal Disables Xorg Ctrl-Alt-Backspace ===
Much work has been done on the Fedora 11 release notes[2] to advise
users of significant changes. A thread started[3] by Gerry Reno to
question the disabling of Ctrl-Alt-Backspace as a key combination to
kill the X server shows that these beta release notes are an important
means to notify prospective users of new features of the operating
system. Gerry was among many contributors to the thread that preferred
to keep the traditional functionality enabled. This change was an
upstream Xorg decision apparently taken to prevent users from
accidentally killing their X servers. Although there had previously been
extensive discussion (reported in FWN#162[4]) and a nice, hot flamewar
on the upstream lists[5] the change seemed to take many by surprise.
This prompted[6] accusations that "[...] big changes like this need to
be advertised extensively instead of just quietly slipped in."
Roland McGrath suggested[7] ways in which xorg.conf could be changed
using a kickstart post-scriptlet but preferred that such choices would
be pushed into the users' "keyboard shortcut" preferences. Gerry
raised[8] the issue of the use of the Ctrl-Alt-Backspace combination
being essential to virtual machine management.
Another dissatisfied user was Arthur Pemberton. He requested[9]
discussion of why such large changes as disabling Ctrl-Alt-Backspace,
removing Xorg.conf in favor of auto-detection, and others had been made
without what he considered to be enough discussion. Response to this
line of questioning suggested[10] variously that the change had been
made "secretly" upstream in order to appease an emacs-using cabal, and
that Fedora had adopted the changes solely because Ubuntu had done so.
This latter accusation was disputed[11] by Matthew Garrett. The emacs
angle seems to come from the fact that the emacs key-combinations
"Ctrl-Alt-End" and "Ctrl-Alt-\" are, with certain keyboard layouts, a
danger to fumble-fingered users. Arthur pointed[12] to an added
complication in a use case in which booting with the monitor powered off
requires restarting the X server.
Felix Miata mentioned[13] that OpenSuSE's solution was to require that
the Ctrl-Alt-Backspace sequence be struck twice before it took effect.
This was also suggested[14] by Gerry during a thread in which Matthew
Garrett and Matthias Clasen explained that the Terminate_Server symbol
could be bound to any desired key-binding through XKB maps.
Ahmed Kamal suggested[15]: "To anyone wanting to kill X when it hangs,
why not login through a VC and `pkill X' .. Just like any process, why
do we have to have magic keys!" Similarly Adam Jackson challenged[16]
the assertion that it would be possible to use the key combination to
deal with faulty drivers.
1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Beta_release_notes
2.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-March/msg01682.html
3.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue162#Fedora_11_Alpha_Released
4.
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2008-September/038786.html
5.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-March/msg01705.html
6.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-March/msg01691.html
7.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-March/msg01697.html
8.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-March/msg01770.html
9.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-March/msg01791.html
10.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-March/msg01888.html
11.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-March/msg01732.html
12.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-March/msg01820.html
13.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-March/msg01804.html
14.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-March/msg01708.html
15.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-March/msg01989.html
=== ZFS-based Upgrades ===
Neal Becker posted[17] a link to an interesting way to use the
capabilities of the ZFS filesystem to take snapshots of the system and
provide a safe, stable way to upgrade. Seth Vidal seemed[18] sanguine
that this would be relatively easy with a YUM-based system.
1.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-March/msg01597.html
2.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-March/msg01599.html
=== Repoview Temporarily Bust in Fedora 10 ===
After a report from Uwe Kiewel that he could not create a repoview for
Fedora 10 Everything Seth Vidal posted[19] that there was a fix
available in rawhide but it had not got into Fedora 10 yet. Konstantin
Ryabitsev (Icon) built the updated packages and Josh Boyer posted[20]
that they would be available very shortly.
1.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-March/msg01585.html
2.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-March/msg01648.html
=== LGPL Qt-4.5 in Fedora 10 and Fedora 9 ===
KevinKofler announced[21] updates of Qt-4.5 for Fedora 10 and Fedora 9.
He detailed the advantages of this backwards-compatible update and
suggested that maintainers of Qt-4-based packages do some quick checks
to ensure that there would be no snags.
1.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-March/msg01696.html
== Translation ==
This section covers the news surrounding the Fedora Translation (L10n)
Project.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N
Contributing Writer: Runa Bhattacharjee
=== FLP Meeting ===
The common meeting for the Fedora Localization Project team was held on
25th/26th March 2009[1][2]. The discussion centered around general
feedback
around the new transifex interface for statistics and submissions.
Currently,
it lacks the FLP logo and is also not the landing page for the project.
AnkitPatel from the FLP-Admin team informed that these issues can be
fixed
after the end of Fedora Infrastructure freeze period.
Other issues that were discussed were the non-availability of the
updated
Anaconda file and problem related to leadership in the Persian
Translation
team. The meeting was chaired by NorikoMizumoto.
1.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-March/msg00181.html
2.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-March/msg00180.html
=== FLP Admin Meeting ===
The FLP Admin team met[1] on 24th March 2009 to discuss about the new
transifex instance, publican/docs support for statistics generation on
transifex, feedback ticket filing FAQ, coordination with Fedora
Infrastructure team to iron out the current issues.
1.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-March/msg00165.html
=== Anaconda File Ready for Translation ===
Ville-Pekka Vainio announced[1] the availability of the updated Anaconda
.po files for translation. The files were held back due to a delay from
the Anaconda developers who were running additional tests [2].
1.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-March/msg00191.html
2. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=484784#c5
=== Release Notes Moved in the Repository ===
The location of the translated .po files of Fedora Release notes were
recently moved without notification, within the git repository[1][2].
1.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-docs-list/2009-March/msg00093.html
2.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-March/msg00158.html
=== PackageKit 0.4.6 version for Fedora 11 ===
RichardHughes announced[1] that the 0.4.6 version of PackageKit would be
part of Fedora 11 and translations for this version were to be submitted
by 29th March 2009. PackageKit 0.4.6 is scheduled for release on 30th
March 2009.
1.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-March/msg00178.html
=== New Members in FLP ===
Hamid Reza Neyari (Persian)[1], Hedda Peters (German)[2], Sam Friedmann
(French)[3], Sveinn Helgi Sverrisson (Icelandic)[4], Imre Csuhai
(Hungarian)[5] joined the Fedora Localization Project during the past
week.
1.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-March/msg00168.html
2.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-March/msg00186.html
3.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-March/msg00189.html
4.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-March/msg00190.html
5.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-March/msg00192.html
== Artwork ==
In this section, we cover the Fedora Artwork Project.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork
Contributing Writer: Nicu Buculei
=== Preparing for the Berlin FUDCon ===
Max Spevack presented[1] on @fedora-art a check list with items needed
by the organizational team for the upcoming FUDCon in Berlin: a T-shirt
design, a magazine ad, posters, banners and more "I'd love to use FUDCon
Berlin to really show off the coolness of the Fedora Art team, and to
provide our EMEA crew with some reusable resources for future FUDCons in
the region, as well as some stuff that we can use for the F11 release,
and then auction off or something :)"
1.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-March/msg00171.html
=== A Lion for Leonidas? ===
Samuele Storari advanced[1] a new concept for the Fedora 11 artwork, a
lion "So I created a new theme based on the meaning of the name:
Leonidas come from Lions and Leonidas was a king,so why don't use
another king? This graphic proposal is about the proud and the glory for
being a king and the subject is shouting:'The King is here!'" The
graphics were generally liked but considered a bit too late by Martin
Sourada[2] and Máirín Duffy[3] "We are *really* late in the schedule
right now, and we had already made a decision, based on our survey, to
go with a landscape depicting Greece so we have a number of mockups and
work around that concept already".
1.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-March/msg00179.html
2.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-March/msg00181.html
3.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-March/msg00184.html
== Security Week ==
In this section, we highlight the security stories from the week in
Fedora.
Contributing Writer: JoshBressers
=== Firefox Emergency ===
On Friday, a new version of Firefox [1] was released. The number of
hours that went into this event are amazing to even consider. For most
of the week, there were various groups working non stop to make this
happen. Be sure to update your firefox, it's pretty important.
1.
http://blog.mozilla.com/security/2009/03/26/cansecwest-2009-pwn2own-explo...
== Virtualization ==
In this section, we cover discussion on the @et-mgmnt-tools-list,
@fedora-xen-list, @libvirt-list and @ovirt-devel-list of Fedora
virtualization technologies.
Contributing Writer: Dale Bewley
=== Fedora Virtualization List ===
This section contains the discussion happening on the fedora-virt list.
==== KVM and QEMU Merge Feature Stays in Fedora 11 ====
After missing the previous round (FWN #165[1]) and some development
delay, the KVM and QEMU package merge feature[2] of Fedora 11 has been
marked as accepted by the Fedora Engineering Steering Committee[3].
"Currently, there is both a qemu package and kvm package. The KVM
package's source is a fork of the QEMU source, but KVM regularily
re-bases to the latest QEMU source and merging of KVM support into the
QEMU code base is actively under-way."
1.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue165#Approved_F11_Virtualization_Fe...
2. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/KVM_and_QEMU_merge
3. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FESCO
==== Fedora Virtualization Status Report ====
After a few weeks off, Mark McLoughlin reached back into the future and
produced an exhaustive status report[1] covering all the developments in
fedora Virtualization for the last month. Grab a bowl of popcorn and dig
in!
1.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-virt/2009-March/msg00068.html
=== Fedora Xen List ===
This section contains the discussion happening on the fedora-xen list.
==== Success with Experimental Fedora 10 pv_ops dom0 ====
Users are continuing to build experimental kernels with pv_ops dom0[1]
support. Pasi Kärkkäinen was happy to report[2] success getting a
"custom Xen pv_ops dom0 kernel working with virt-install and/or
virt-manager on Fedora 10".
"I was able to run the following on Fedora 10 32bit PAE pv_ops dom0:"
* CentOS 5.3 32bit PAE PV domU
* Fedora 10 32bit PAE PV domU (using virt-install and custom
kickstart to force PAE kernel installation to avoid the anaconda
BUG[3])
Pasi was successful by using:
* pv_ops dom0 kernel (2.6.29-rc8 or newer) "Compile with
CONFIG_HIGHPTE=n since it seems to be broken still"
* libvirt 0.6.1 and related packages from Fedora 10 updates-testing
* xen 3.3.1-9 packages from rawhide/F11 rebuilt for F10
* LVM volumes for domU disks (tap:aio is not yet supported by pv_ops
dom0 kernel)
1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/XenPvopsDom0
2.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-xen/2009-March/msg00071.html
3. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=470905
==== Yum Repository for Experimental Dom0 Kernels ====
Since Koji removes scratch builds after some time, Michael Young
created[1] a repository[2] for the experimental Dom0 capable[3] kernels
he's experimenting with.
1.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-xen/2009-March/msg00078.html
2. http://fedorapeople.org/~myoung/dom0/
3. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/XenPvopsDom0
=== Libvirt List ===
This section contains the discussion happening on the libvir-list.
==== More Formal libvirt Release Scheduling ====
After Daniel Veillard proposed a libvirt 0.6.2 release next week, Daniel
Berrange thought [1] the "release schedule has become a little too
variable in timeframe and quality in recent times[...]" (FWN #155[2])
and suggested:
* Monthly releases aiming for the 1st of the month.
* Any non-trivial new feature for release must be reviewed, approved
and committed at least 1 week before the release.
Daniel Berrange is also "working on an integration test suite, which
will enable us to run automated tests against individual hypervisor
drivers. This will help us detect regressions in hypervisor drivers, and
more importantly let us ensure that all drivers are implementing
consistent semantics for their APIs."
Daniel Veillard tended[3] "to agree on the approximate rule of one
release every months [sic] but I would like to keep this flexible" and
offered this schedule for the next 2 releases:
* 0.6.2:
commit feature freeze: Tuesday 31 Mar
expected release date: Friday 3 Apr
* 0.6.3:
commit feature freeze: Friday 17 Apr
expected release date: Friday 24 Apr
1.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-March/msg00435.html
2.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue155#Release_of_libvirt_0.5.0_and_0...
3.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-March/msg00446.html
==== New Release perl-Sys-Virt 0.2.0 ====
Daniel Berrange announced[1] an update of the Perl binding for libvirt,
perl-Sys-Virt[2].
New features:
* Fix network create API, and UUID lookups
* Implement storage pool, storage vol, node device, security model,
domain events and event loop APIs
* Improve way constants are exposed to Perl layer
* Fix horrible memory leak in methods returning a hash
* Fix integer overflow in APIs using 64-bit ints (aka 'long long')
* Minimum required libvirt C library for building is 0.6.1
1.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-March/msg00449.html
2. http://search.cpan.org/dist/Sys-Virt/
==== SCSI Host Pools Patch ====
David Allan has been working[1] on a reworked SCSI host storage pool[2]
patch for some time, and appears to be close to ironing out all the
bugs.
1.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-March/msg00420.html
2. http://www.libvirt.org/storage.html
==== API for Host Interface Configuration ====
The Shared Network Interface feature[1] was deferred to Fedora 12 while
David Lutterkort continues to work on netcf[2] (FWN #164[3]).
Now Laine Stump has posted[4] "a first attempt at the public API that
will hook up to libnetcf on the libvirtd side."
1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Shared_Network_Interface
2. http://people.redhat.com/dlutter/netcf/
3.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue164#netcf_Network_Interface_Config...
4.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-March/msg00397.html
==== Web Based libvirt Management ====
Radek Hladik is developing[1] "a simple web application in PHP to
monitor and control VMs using libvirt." The stateless nature of the web
presents efficiency problems when each action must call out to the virsh
command. Radik sought advice on picking from a list of approaches.
Daniel Berrange picked[2] door number two, which is to create a
libvirt-aware Zend extension in C. "A few people have expressed interest
in this idea in the past, but unforatuntely I'm not aware of anyone
having written any code for this yet. We'd very much like to see a PHP
binding for libvirt developed & happy to give advice/support to anyone
attempting this."
Russell Haering mentioned[3] a Django (python) WebApp he's working on,
called virtadmin[4]. To bridge the stateless to stateful gap, the
"system consists of a python daemon used for actual libvirt interaction
and a separate django web interface that interacts with the daemon via
AMF over https."
Although more of an appliance, it is also worth mentioning oVirt[5].
"oVirt is a small host image that provides libvirt service and hosts
virtual machines and a web-based virtual machine management console."
1.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-March/msg00402.html
2.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-March/msg00407.html
3.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-March/msg00409.html
4. http://trac.osuosl.org/trac/virtadmin
5. http://ovirt.org/
--
Oisin Feeley
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OisinFeeley
15 years
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announcements complete for march 29
by Max Spevack
Thanks to our wonderful editorial staff for all their hard work.
--Max
15 years
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Comic with your news?
by Adam Williamson
There's an interesting idea here:
http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/2009/03/fedora-weekly-webcomic-brainstorm.html
"Can we get it out with FWN, to give readers a dose of good humour or a
good dose of humour? It is so formal and serious!!!"
God knows my beat could do with some offsetting via humor =)
What do you guys think?
--
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net
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Fedora Weekly News #168
by Oisin Feeley
Fedora Weekly News Issue 168
Welcome to Fedora Weekly News Issue 168 for the week ending March 22nd,
2009.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue168
With the Fedora 11 Beta release slipping by one week Announcements
reminds the community about "FUDCon Berlin 2009". In PlanetFedora the
recent Red Hat patent acquisitions are among several topics covered.
Ambassadors reports on the OLPC XO work at Rochester Institute of
Technology. QualityAssurance gets excited about "Test Days" for
DeviceKit, Xfce and an upcoming one for nouveau. Developments reflects a
lot of anxious upgrading and "How to Open ACLs and Find Non-responsive
Maintainers". Translation notes the "Upgraded Transifex" and translation
to Cornish. Infrastructure advises in "Change Requests" that the infra
team is in freeze and lists all the approved recent changes and
hotfixes. Controversy rages in "Artwork" over the choice of Greek temple
imagery. Yet again SecurityAdvisories lists packages that you want,
really, really want. Virtualization worries about "More Flexible x86
Emulator Choice". Needless to say there's lots more to read this week!
If you are interested in contributing to Fedora Weekly News, please see
our 'join' page[1]. We welcome reader feedback:
fedora-news-list(a)redhat.com
1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/NewsProject/Join
FWN Editorial Team: Pascal Calarco, Oisin Feeley, Huzaifa Sidhpurwala
Contents
1 Fedora Weekly News Issue 168
1.1 Announcements
1.1.1 Fedora 11
1.1.2 FUDCon Berlin 2009
1.1.3 Upcoming Events
1.2 Planet Fedora
1.2.1 General
1.3 Ambassadors
1.3.1 RIT Pitches in on OLPC Project
1.3.2 Got Ambassador News?
1.4 QualityAssurance
1.4.1 Test Days
1.4.2 Weekly meetings
1.4.3 Wiki changes
1.4.4 Bugzilla status, priority and severity procedures
1.5 Developments
1.5.1 Auto Upgrading YUM Not Worth It
1.5.2 How to Update from Fedora 10 to Rawhide
1.5.3 Fedora 11 Beta Slips by One Week
1.5.4 Finding the Source
1.5.5 Fedorahosted Releases
1.5.6 How to Open ACLs and Find Non-responsive Maintainers
1.6 Translation
1.6.1 Upgraded Transifex
1.6.2 New Coordinators/Members in FLP
1.7 Infrastructure
1.7.1 svn-to-git Mirror
1.7.2 Change Requests
1.8 Artwork
1.8.1 Post-inclusion Feedback for the Beta Artwork
1.8.2 A Possible New Direction for the Wallpaper
1.8.3 Completing all the Graphic Pieces
1.9 Security Advisories
1.9.1 Fedora 10 Security Advisories
1.9.2 Fedora 9 Security Advisories
1.10 Virtualization
1.10.1 Enterprise Management Tools List
1.10.1.1 Virt-p2v and RAID Controller Drivers
1.10.1.2 NetWare Support added to virtinst
1.10.2 Fedora Xen List
1.10.2.1 Which Xen Configuration Files
1.10.3 Libvirt List
1.10.3.1 Xen PCI Device Passthrough
1.10.3.2 Secure Guest Migration Draft Patch
1.10.3.3 More Flexible x86 Emulator Choice
== Announcements ==
In this section, we cover announcements from the Fedora Project.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events
Contributing Writer: Max Spevack
=== Fedora 11 ===
Jesse Keating[1] announced[2] that the Beta of Fedora 11 will slip one
week, due to some issues with both PPC and anaconda. The new Beta
release date is March 31.
=== FUDCon Berlin 2009 ===
Max Spevack[3] reminded[4] the community about FUDCon Berlin 2009[5],
including registration[6], lodging[7], and speaking[8] opportunities.
1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/JesseKeating
2.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/2009-March/msg00015....
3. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MaxSpevack
4.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-March/msg00005.html
5. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Berlin_2009
6. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Berlin_2009_attendees
7. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Berlin_2009_lodging
8.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon_Berlin_and_LinuxTag_2009_talks
=== Upcoming Events ===
March 23-29: LUGM OpenWeek [1] in Manipal, India.
March 25: Document Freedom Day in Kolkata, India.
March 25: Document Freedom Day in Opera, Italy.
March 26: Infotech Niagara Beta Awards[2] in Buffalo, New York, USA.
March 26: Ithaca College EdTech Day[3] in Ithaca, New York, USA.
March 27-29: PyCon[4] in Chicago, Illinois, USA.
March 31-April 2: Linux Solutions[5] in Paris, France.
April 1-2: OpenExpo[6] in Bern, Switzerland.
1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LUGMopenweek
2. http://www.infotechniagara.org/events/?id=193
3. http://www.ithaca.edu/edtechday/
4. http://us.pycon.org/2009/about/
5.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/SolutionsLinux/SolutionsLinux...
6.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/OpenExpo/OpenExpo2009_Berne
== Planet Fedora ==
In this section, we cover the highlights of Planet Fedora - an
aggregation of blogs from Fedora contributors worldwide.
http://planet.fedoraproject.org
Contributing Writer: Adam Batkin
=== General ===
Rangeen Basu Roy Chowdhury explained[1] how to build a Live USB stick
from a Live CD image. Another option, suggested in the comments, is to
use the liveusb-creator[2].
Paul W. Frields described[3] some of the preparations that the Fedora
Marketing team has been making for Fedora 11, including in-depth
articles on some of the new features.
Richard Hughes showed off[4] an updated Gnome PackageKit update viewer.
Rob Tiller, Vice President and Assistant General Counsel, IP at Red Hat
responded[5] to concerns within the community about Red Hat's patenting
efforts and the Red Hat Patent Policy[6]. Paul W. Frields wrote[7] about
the response, and a lively discussion in the comments ensued.
David Woodhouse posted[8] about some documentation he had written to
support Greylisting and the exim-greylist package shipped with Fedora.
Jef Spaleta wrote[9] his "most important Fedora blog post ever" which
revolves around the "NSF sponsored workshop on Sustainable
Cyberinfrastructure"[10]. The workshop is important "for people who
believe in either the function of basic science research as a catalyst
for technical and social progress or people who believe strongly in open
development methodologies as a catalyst for deeper and more impactful
collaborations. Even more so if you happen to be in the union of those
groups and a US citizen and care about how the NSF as a Federal agency
goes about funding research and education."
As an interesting aside, Dave Jones mentioned[11] that it takes two days
and twenty minutes to run badblocks on his new 1TB hard drives.
Richard W.M. Jones worked[12] on building a minimal Fedora installation
and managed to get an installed system down to 225MB. He later
responded[13] to a comment about why it makes sense to minimize Fedora
as opposed to building a custom minimal distribution. And then he
managed[14] to get the minimal distribution down to 15.9MB.
Amit Shah benchmarked[15] various filesystems (including ext4) to find
out how well they handled pre-allocation of disk space and the new Linux
fallocate support.
1. http://sherry151.blogspot.com/2009/03/live-usb-magic.html
2. https://fedorahosted.org/liveusb-creator/
3. http://marilyn.frields.org:8080/~paul/wordpress/?p=1437
4. http://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2009/03/17/the-next-update-viewer/
5.
http://www.press.redhat.com/2009/03/17/discouraging-software-patent-lawsu...
6. http://www.redhat.com/legal/patent_policy.html
7. http://marilyn.frields.org:8080/~paul/wordpress/?p=1536
8. http://www.advogato.org/person/dwmw2/diary.html?start=201
9. http://jspaleta.livejournal.com/37433.html
10. http://cisoftwaresustainability.iu-pti.org/
11. http://www.codemonkey.org.uk/2009/03/19/badblocks-1tb-drive/
12. http://rwmj.wordpress.com/2009/03/20/why-minimal-is-225-mb/
13.
http://rwmj.wordpress.com/2009/03/20/why-not-use-a-minimal-distribution/
14.
http://rwmj.wordpress.com/2009/03/20/febootstrap-minimal-now-159-mb/
15.
http://www.amitshah.net/2009/03/comparison-of-file-systems-and-speeding.html
== Ambassadors ==
In this section, we cover Fedora Ambassadors Project.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors
Contributing Writer: Larry Cafiero
=== RIT Pitches in on OLPC Project ===
(This item corrects a report on this topic filed in FWN Number 166)
The Fedora OLPC project seems to have found a friend at Rochester
Institute of Technology[1]. Fedora Ambassador Karlie Robinson met RIT
professor Stephen Jacobs at an OLPC Grassroots meeting on January 22 and
learned of Jacobs' interest in doing a class around the XO.
Days later, David Nalley announced the Fedora Ambassador Developers
Project and Karlie brought Professor Jacobs up to speed on what Fedora
is doing around the XO,[2] where Fedora is providing XOs to those who
will do development work. The deal revolved around getting XOs for
Jacobs classroom in exchange for the RIT students working on Greg
DeKoenigsberg's 4th Grade Math project[1].
1. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Rochester,_NY
2.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-olpc-list/2009-February/msg00033.html
=== Got Ambassador News? ===
Any Ambassador news tips from around the Fedora community can be
submitted to me by e-mailing lcafiero-AT-fedoraproject-DOT-org and I'd
be glad to put it in this weekly report.
== QualityAssurance ==
In this section, we cover the activities of the QA team[1].
Contributing Writer: Adam Williamson
1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA
=== Test Days ===
This week we had two test days, far more exciting than the boring
regular one! The first[1] was on DeviceKit[2], which will replace HAL
for disk and power management in Fedora 11. Turnout was not the highest,
but those who came along were able to find several issues which are
being addressed with the help of some of the developers involved,
including David Zeuthen and Matthias Clasen. The second test day[3] was
on Xfce[4], which is being updated to a major new release (4.6) in
Fedora 11. A group of enthusiastic Xfce users showed up and were able to
do some productive testing and refining of the Xfce environment together
with the lead packager for Fedora, Kevin Fenzi.
Next week's test day[5] will be on Nouveau[6], the new default video
driver for NVIDIA cards for Fedora 11. This is a very important event,
as NVIDIA graphics cards are the most popular type, and the new driver
is a fairly big change, so we need testing on a wide range of hardware
to make sure it's ready. A live CD will be available for the day so
you'll be able to test without a Rawhide installation. It will be held
on Thursday (2009-03-26) in the #fedora-qa channel on Freenode IRC. If
you have an NVIDIA graphics card, please make sure to come along, or -
if you can't make it on the day - do the tests and fill out your results
on the page another day.
1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days/2009-03-17
2. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DeviceKit
3. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days/2009-03-19
4. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Xfce
5. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days/2009-03-26
6. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NouveauAsDefault
=== Weekly Meetings ===
The QA group weekly meeting[1] was held on 2009-03-18. The full log is
available[2]. James Laska reported good progress in his work on the
Semantic test result reporting extension for mediawiki. Packaging is
complete and he is next planning to put up a test instance of mediawiki
with the plugin enabled.
Adam Williamson reported that the Intel graphics adapter test day had
been a success, and a follow-up event was in the works. He also reported
that a Radeon test day had not yet been planned and promised to follow
that up with the appropriate developers.
Jesse Keating was asked to report on the status of the beta release. He
said that current Rawhide and particularly Anaconda was still too
unstable and said he expected the beta release would slip if he could
not get a Rawhide tree with a good Anaconda soon. He requested further
testing of Rawhide installation from the QA group, and some help from
the main QA group and the Bugzappers group on organizing and checking
existing bug reports against Anaconda.
Adam Williamson reported that the Xfce test day was fully planned, and
Kevin Fenzi reported that he had successfully generated some live CD
images for the test day. Adam asked if someone could make sure these
images would be available for download.
The Bugzappers group weekly meeting[3] was held on 2009-03-17. The full
log is available[4]. John Poelstra asked for feedback on the draft
Standard Operating Procedure for new memberships which he had sent to
the mailing list. The group generally approved of the draft. It was also
agreed that the 'triagers' and 'fedorabugs' groups in FAS should be
merged or linked, so that anyone who joined the triagers group
automatically becomes a member of fedorabugs. Edward Kirk proposed not
putting the SOP online and into operation until the appropriate changes
have been made in FAS, and this was agreed. Christopher said he will
send a draft of the new 'How to Triage' page to the mailing list for
discussion in the coming week.
The group discussed Adam Williamson's draft front page for the Wiki
area. Discussion centred on the links in the Tools and Procedures
section. Adam explained that he expected further work on the Wiki to
clean up and merge the pages linked to in that section, so the number of
links would be smaller. Christopher Beland fixed the links in the draft
which were broken. Christopher proposed putting up the new page
immediately and then working to clean up the pages further down the
hierarchy, and this was agreed by the group.
The group discussed the revised Components and Triagers[5] wiki page and
agreed the new layout was good. John Poelstra did not like the static
statistics. Adam Williamson pointed out that it is planned to replace
them with dynamically updated data from Brennan Ashton's metrics tool
once it is complete.
John Poelstra brought up the potential meeting time and date change.
Adam Williamson promised to send a mail to the mailing list summarising
the results of the matrix survey to see if a definite conclusion could
be made about whether to move the meeting.
The next QA weekly meeting will be held on 2009-03-25 at 1700 UTC (note
changed time, in UTC reference frame) in #fedora-meeting, and the next
Bugzappers weekly meeting on 2009-03-18 at 1500 UTC in #fedora-meeting.
1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings
2. http://www.happyassassin.net/extras/fedora-qa-20090318.log
3. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Meetings
4.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Meetings/Minutes-2009-Mar-17
5. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Components_and_Triagers
=== Wiki Changes ===
Adam Williamson announced[1] that he had added a new column to the
Components and Triagers[2] wiki page to make it easy to find out who is
the maintainer of a given component (and other information on it).
Christopher Beland changed[3] the stock response text for EOL bugs in an
attempt to make it friendlier. Adam pointed out[4] that changes to the
stock responses should be mirrored in the GreaseMonkey script. Chris
also announced[5] a draft of a new How to Triage page for the group's
feedback. Adam and Milos Jakubicek both approved of Chris' work and
provided some suggestions to improve it.
1.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-March/msg00885.html
2. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Components_and_Triagers
3.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-March/msg00926.html
4.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-March/msg00937.html
5.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-March/msg00931.html
Bugzilla status, priority and severity procedures
Christopher Beland began a discussion[1] about the use of various
statuses, resolutions and the priority and severity fields in Bugzilla.
Adam Williamson pointed out[2] that some of the more unconventional
statuses and resolutions come from the RHEL side, where there is a
specific and carefully defined workflow, and these statuses do not
always mean exactly what they might appear to. Further to this, Tom Lane
noted[3] that the Bugzilla page defining each status[4] contains
accurate information on the RHEL workflow. He then suggested[5] that a
similar page should be created to define a standard workflow for Fedora
bugs, and included in Bugzilla. Jesse Keating suggested[6] that instead,
the Fedora and RHEL workflows should be merged so that both would use
the same statuses and resolutions in the same ways.
1.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-March/msg00942.html
2.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-March/msg00943.html
3.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-March/msg00949.html
4. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/page.cgi?id=fields.html#status
5.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-March/msg00960.html
6.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-March/msg00962.html
== Developments ==
In this section the people, personalities and debates on the
@fedora-devel mailing list are summarized.
Contributing Writer: Oisin Feeley
=== Auto Upgrading YUM Not Worth It ===
A discussion over the possible ways to upgrade from Fedora 10 to Fedora
11 was started[1] by Gerry Reno when he asked why preupgrade[2] from
Fedora 10 only presented Rawhide as an option and not Fedora 11 Alpha.
A quick answer posted[3] by Gianluca Sforna mentioned the technical
difficulties of tracking the versions of packages included in the alpha
release. Paul W. Frields was[4] concerned that anyone trying such an
upgrade made sure to update rpm before upgrading. This latter point
spawned[5] a longish thread in which the possibility of making YUM take
care of checking to see whether a newer version of itself or rpm is
available.
Will Woods suggested[6] that running preupgrade instead of doing a `yum
upgrade' avoided all that confusion.
1.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-March/msg01145.html
2. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PreUpgrade
3.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-March/msg01147.html
4.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-March/msg01168.html
5.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-March/msg01185.html
6.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-March/msg01254.html
How to Update from Fedora 10 to Rawhide
When "nodata" reported[1] that an attempt to update rpm resulted in
errors and preupgrade also failed he concluded[2] that the
instructions[3] on the wiki were flawed.
Seth Vidal and Jesse Keating were[4] sure that "nodata" was not using
the correct procedure which they stated as a two stage process with the
first step being a:
yum update rpm
with the Fedora 10 repository enabled and then to enable the Rawhide
repository and do a general:
yum update
Unfortunately this seemed[5] to not work for "nodata" and Michael A.
Young's suggestion[6] that a "[...] temporary issue with F10 having a
more recent version of audit-libs than rawhide [...]" seemed like a
promising lead. "Nodata" resolved[7] problem by using the rescue CD to
do a "rpm -e --nodeps" and then "rpm --rebuilddb".
1.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-March/msg01227.html
2.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-March/msg01245.html
3.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_11_Beta_release_notes#RPM_issues
4.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-March/msg01250.html
5.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-March/msg01253.html
6.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-March/msg01266.html
7.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-March/msg01231.html
=== Fedora 11 Beta Slips by One Week ===
Jesse Keating announced[1] that Release Engineering, QA and maintainers
had agreed that the beta release of Fedora 11 would slip by seven days
due to several issues mostly related to the rewrite of anaconda storage.
1.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-March/msg01163.html
=== Finding the Source ===
A request was posted[1] for help in finding the Fedora kernel sources by
Joe Ovanesian. A quick pointer was given[2] by Tom Diehl:
# yum install yum-utils
# yumdownloader --source package_name
Eric Sandeen wondered[3] if it might be better to use the upstream
repositories and Joe explained[4] that his objective was to build a new
kernel from source and use KGDB[5] to gain familiarity with the source.
Todd Zullinger pointed[6] to a goldmine of information on the topic on
the wiki[7].
1.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-March/msg01100.html
2.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-March/msg01101.html
3.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-March/msg01130.html
4.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-March/msg01151.html
5. http://kgdb.linsyssoft.com/
6.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-March/msg01154.html
7. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Building_a_custom_kernel
=== Fedorahosted Releases ===
Jon Stanley posted[1] a quick note to say that he had made it easier to
specify the upstream source URL in specfiles due to a change in
fedorahosted.org
1.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-March/msg01015.html
=== How to Open ACLs and Find Non-responsive Maintainers ===
A couple of related threads dealt with the need to deal with a package
which lay dormant apparently due to maintainer inactivity.
Manuel Wolfshant had inquired[1] earlier in the week about the allowing
the provenpackagers to fix the gdal package. Jon Stanley promised[2] to
re-add a ticket dealing with the issue to an upcoming FESCo meeting.
In a separate thread the latest Rawhide Report[3] led Kevin Kofler to
ask[4] for an opening of the ACLs on gdal[5] so that it could be fixed
for multiple dependent packages. When Jesse Keating asked[6] Alex
Lancaster if he started the non-responsive maintainer process the answer
appeared[7] to be that it was Jesse himself. In an aside MilosJakubicek
provided[8] links to the current process. Alex seemed[9] to demonstrate
clearly that the maintainer was inactive.
1.
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-March/msg00962.html
2.
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-March/msg01035.html
3.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-March/msg01234.html
4.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-March/msg01268.html
5. GDAL is a library to handle Geographic Information Systems data
6.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-March/msg01296.html
7.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-March/msg01301.html
8.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-March/msg01298.html
9.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2009-March/msg01303.html
== Translation ==
This section covers the news surrounding the Fedora Translation (L10n)
Project.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N
Contributing Writer: Runa Bhattacharjee
=== Transifex Upgraded ===
The backend for the statistics and submission page of FLP -
translate.fedoraproject.org, has been migrated[1] to the new version of
Transifex[2]. Submission of translations would continue via the new
Transifex instance. Additionally, generation of translations statistics
would also be done by this tool. All the modules from the damned-lies
instance, used to generate statistics earlier, are now part of the
transifex instance[3].
The new translate.fedoraproject.org page also allows translators to put
temporary locks on files that they are currently translating. Bugs about
the FLP transifex instance can be filed in the Red Hat bugzilla
(Fedora-L10n/Transifex component) and bugs about Transifex are to be
reported in the upstream Transifex trac[4].
1.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-March/msg00147.html
2.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-March/msg00127.html
3.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-March/msg00135.html
4. http://transifex.org/newticket
=== New Coordinators/Members in FLP ===
Steven Whitehouse joined the FLP [1][2] to start the Cornish language
translation team. Kris Thomsen is the new Danish team coordinator[3].
1.
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-March/msg00123.html
2.
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-March/msg00125.html
3.
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-March/msg00111.html
== Infrastructure ==
This section contains the discussion happening on the
fedora-infrastructure-list
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure
Contributing Writer: Huzaifa Sidhpurwala
=== svn-to-git Mirror ===
Jim Meyering said [1] that he would like to set up an svn-to-git mirror
for a project on fedorahosted. The mirror was set up[2] and will be
maintained by him at the Red Hat Emerging Technology Group webspace. It
is not open for ssh access to people outside of Red Hat, so it's rather
limited.
1.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-infrastructure-list/2009-March/msg0...
2. http://git.et.redhat.com
=== Change Requests ===
Due to the impending release of Fedora 11 beta, the infrastructure team
is in a change freeze right now.
The following change requests were made during the week:
1. [1] Change a piece of code in fas2 which would reduce a particular
loop time from 5 mins to 8 seconds. This change was approved and the
hotfix was put on the server.
2. [2]Add redirect from /legal/trademarks/guidelines to
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal:Trademark_guidelines. This change
was approved.
3. [3] Make transifex run under transifex user and not apache user. This
change was also approved and committed.
4. [4] Change request to update transifex on app1 to the 0.5 version.
The change was approved.
5. [5] Remove Fedora8 from the infofeed updates: Somehow fedora8 is
still being looked for for the infofeed rss feed on
planet.fedoraproject.org. This was approved and changes were made.
6. [6]Use single quotes for the mysql backup cronjob,this has been
causing us to get extra cron spam (and stalling mysql updates). Again
this change was approved and committed.
7. [7]Make sure inactive accounts can't auth to other webapps. Approved
and committed.
8. [8] Minor bodhi update. Changes include. Again approved and applied.
1.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-infrastructure-list/2009-March/msg0...
2.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-infrastructure-list/2009-March/msg0...
3.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-infrastructure-list/2009-March/msg0...
4.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-infrastructure-list/2009-March/msg0...
5.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-infrastructure-list/2009-March/msg0...
6.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-infrastructure-list/2009-March/msg0...
7.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-infrastructure-list/2009-March/msg0...
8.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-infrastructure-list/2009-March/msg0...
== Artwork ==
In this section, we cover the Fedora Artwork Project.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork
Contributing Writer: Nicu Buculei
=== Post-inclusion Feedback for the Beta Artwork ===
After the new wallpaper design was included in Rawhide and presented to
the users, the feedback process started.Jef Spaleta forwarded[1] a
concern raised on the OLPC list[2] by Mikus Grinbergs, about the
religious implications of using a temple "Seems to me whoever chose the
background that was introduced last week did not consider that items
with overtones of dissentious subjects such as politics or religion
might elicit emotional reactions. I'm concerned that when my system
prominently shows a picture with a temple, that might be interpreted as
'Mikus worships paganism'."
Martin Sourada did not[3] support this reaction: "I don't see a valid
reasoning there. There is vast difference between you worshiping ancient
Greece gods (not that it would be something bad if you actually do) and
having a huge Zeus' temple wallpaper hanging on your wall, let alone the
wallpaper in your PC." Paul Frields explained[4] "the conveyance as far
as I know is simply to acknowledge the heritage of the 'Leonidas' name.
Any other inference is probably a stretch" and Brian Hurren also
supported[5] this line of reasoning: "I think that the modern meaning of
a Zeus temple is a lot broader now than it was before. Kind of like an
old abbey in England would have a different meaning now." The
conversation was spiced by a very sarcastic reaction[6] from Máirín
Duffy "I'm just too distraught to carry on. I feel like my entire world
is full of these things symbolizing other things, and I'm finding myself
strangely offended by everything."
1.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-March/msg00100.html
2.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-olpc-list/2009-March/msg00147.html
3.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-March/msg00101.html
4.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-March/msg00103.html
5.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-March/msg00107.html
6.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-March/msg00104.html
Matthias Clasen raised[1] another kind of criticism regarding the
composition: "IMO it is really overloaded with all too well-known
motifs, to the extent that it appears almost like a satire of a
constructed background image. I mean, it has clouds and mountains and
doves and a black forest and a green lawn _and_ a greek temple. Any 2
out of these 6 might combine to a nice background, but all six are just
too much for my taste", a kind of positive feedback appreciated[2] by
Máirín as the purpose of releasing the graphic concepts early "Thank you
for the feedback. Receiving this kind of feedback is exactly why we
aimed to get a wallpaper into the beta."
1.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-March/msg00109.html
2.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-March/msg00111.html
=== A Possible New Direction for the Wallpaper ===
Considering the received feedback Máirín Duffy, raised the idea[1] of a
possible change of direction and going with a different theme, islands
"I saw the movie Mama Mia this weekend for the first time, and it's a
movie based on a pretty Greek island" or Mount Olympus "we could take
the temple out of the current wallpaper and focus a bit more wholly on
the mountains as the symbol of Greece rather than the temple", with
Martin Sourada supporting[2] a simplification of the 'temple' image
"Hm... I'd say get rid of the trees or make them just complimentary part
of the wallpaper, drop the focus away from mountains and instead have it
on the temple" and Nicu Buculei wished for[3] more time to gather
post-beta feedback "possibly this will make Paul nervous and it may put
some deadlines in danger, but before committing to a radical change, I
think it would be useful to see the post-beta feedback from a larger
mass the users: the first wave of reviews, blogs and forum talks (the
perception setters). We all here, supporters or critics, are pretty much
subjectively involved and I think a breath of fresh air from the outside
is valuable."
1.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-March/msg00112.html
2.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-March/msg00117.html
3.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-March/msg00137.html
=== Completing all the Graphic Pieces ===
Máirín Duffy posted[1] on @fedora-art a template proposal for various
banners which would be used in Fedora 11 "What do you think about this
as a base style to go with for the various banners/splashes for F11?"
and asked the team for opinions about the Greek cultural motifs "Is it
too over-the-top Greek? I was trying to go for a subtle and contemporary
interpretation of a classic Greek motif." Charles Brej was enthusiastic
and started working on a Plymouth theme[2] based on it "I do like.
Simple yet styled. I made a plymouth splash based on it" and Nicu
Buculei proposed[3] combining with the wallpaper image "I would like
them more vivid, maybe combined with the photo we are going to use as a
background?" a proposal took and improved[4] Máirín, in what Paul
Frields calls[5] "art volleys".
1.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-March/msg00145.html
2.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-March/msg00151.html
3.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-March/msg00159.html
4.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-March/msg00160.html
5.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2009-March/msg00162.html
== Security Advisories ==
In this section, we cover Security Advisories from
fedora-package-announce.
https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-package-announce
Contributing Writer: David Nalley
=== Fedora 10 Security Advisories ===
* mldonkey-3.0.0-1.fc10 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-March/msg006...
* evolution-data-server-2.24.5-4.fc10 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-March/msg006...
* opensc-0.11.7-1.fc10 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-March/msg006...
* bugzilla-3.2.2-2.fc10 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-March/msg006...
* ejabberd-2.0.4-1.fc10 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-March/msg007...
* drupal-cck-6.x.2.2-1.fc10 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-March/msg007...
* weechat-0.2.6.1-1.fc10 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-March/msg007...
* thunderbird-2.0.0.21-1.fc10 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-March/msg007...
* ghostscript-8.63-5.fc10 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-March/msg007...
=== Fedora 9 Security Advisories ===
* mldonkey-3.0.0-1.fc9 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-March/msg005...
* wireshark-1.0.6-1.fc9 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-March/msg006...
* bugzilla-3.2.2-2.fc9 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-March/msg006...
* evolution-data-server-2.22.3-3.fc9 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-March/msg006...
* ejabberd-2.0.4-1.fc9 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-March/msg006...
* opensc-0.11.7-1.fc9 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-March/msg006...
* weechat-0.2.6.1-1.fc9 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-March/msg007...
* drupal-cck-6.x.2.2-1.fc9 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-March/msg007...
* ghostscript-8.63-2.fc9 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-March/msg007...
* thunderbird-2.0.0.21-1.fc9 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-March/msg007...
== Virtualization ==
In this section, we cover discussion on the @et-mgmnt-tools-list,
@fedora-xen-list, @libvirt-list and @ovirt-devel-list of Fedora
virtualization technologies.
Contributing Writer: Dale Bewley
=== Enterprise Management Tools List ===
This section contains the discussion happening on the et-mgmt-tools list
==== Virt-p2v and RAID Controller Drivers ====
Based on Fedora 10, "virt-p2v is an experimental live CD for migrating
physical machines to virtual machine guests." [1]
Jonathan Pregler[2] and Nick Haunold asked about a lack of HP and Dell
RAID drivers in virt-p2v. No answer was found, but Jonathan Pregler is
now working[3] on creating a SUSE live CD with virt-p2v and the RAID
drivers embedded.
1. http://et.redhat.com/~rjones/virt-p2v/
2.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/et-mgmt-tools/2009-March/msg00075.html
3.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/et-mgmt-tools/2009-March/msg00085.html
==== NetWare Support added to virtinst ====
John Levon patched[1] pngpython-virtinst to support NetWare PV installs.
1.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/et-mgmt-tools/2009-March/msg00065.html
=== Fedora Xen List ===
This section contains the discussion happening on the fedora-xen list.
==== Which Xen Configuration Files ====
Urs Golla was confused[1] "about the configuration files for XEN user
domains in Fedora."
Daniel P. Berrange[2] explained that parts of Xen uses different
configuration formats.
* xend stores master config files in SXPR[3] format in
/var/lib/xend.
* xm stores python-like config files in /etc/xen
"XenD itself has no knowledge of these files," (in /etc/xen) "so it
can't manage them. They should not be used in Xen >= 3.0.4 If you have
existing files in /etc/xen, then you can load them into XenD by doing
'xm new configname', at which point both Xend and libvirt will be able
to manage them. For Xen < 3.0.4 libvirt has some limited support for
reading /etc/xen files directly"
Using pnglibvirt and the virsh command, the above configuration files
are essentially obviated. Instead an intermediate XML configuration[4]
can be modified and applied back to xend.
1.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-xen/2009-March/msg00043.html
2.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-xen/2009-March/msg00054.html
3. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-expression
4. http://libvirt.org/formatdomain.html
=== Libvirt List ===
This section contains the discussion happening on the libvir-list.
==== Xen PCI Device Passthrough ====
A patch[1] from Daniel P. Berrange "provides initial support for PCI
device passthrough in Xen, at time of boot. It does not (yet) implement
device hotplug for PCI". "XenD only supports 'unmanaged' PCI devices -
ie mgmt app is responsible for detaching/reattaching PCI devices from/to
host device drivers. XenD itself won't automatically do this".
1.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-March/msg00270.html
==== Secure Guest Migration Draft Patch ====
Chris Lalancette followed[1] the RFC[2] of last week with a "rough first
draft of the secure migration code" and sought comments on the approach
before putting the final polish on it.
Daniel Veillard wasn't enitrely satisfied[3] with the "costs related to
the 64KB chunking imposed by the XML-RPC" and was "Trying to reopen a
bit the discussion we had before on opening a separate encrypted
connection". Daniel Veillard "would like to make sure we have room in
the initial phase to add such a negociation where an optimal solution"
on a dedicated TCP/IP connection "may be attempted, possibly falling
back to a normal XML-RPC solution".
Daniel P. Berrange pointed[4] out "This isn't XML-RPC. This is our own
binary protocol using XDR encoding, which has very little metadata
overhead - just a single 24 byte header per 64kb of data.", and poposed
a 'MIGRATION_INCOMING' message which could cause libvirted to "switch
the TCP channel to 'data stream' mode."
Chris Lalancette tested the migration code and found the draft secure
migration caused a "slowdown of between 1.5 and 3 times". "What I'm
going to do early next week is do some additional work to try to get
DanB's suggestion of the STREAM_DATA RPC working. Then I'll try
benchmarking (both for duration, and CPU usage)".
1.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-March/msg00276.html
2.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue166#Secure_Guest_Migration_Betwee...
3.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-March/msg00338.html
4.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-March/msg00341.html
==== More Flexible x86 Emulator Choice ====
Daniel P. Berrange explained[1] the current pnglibvirt restricts "what
emulator binary we allow for QEMU guests on x86 arches". "This patch
makes QEMU driver more flexible" ... "when setting up its capabilities
information." "This should finally remove the confusion where a user in
pngvirt-manager selects 'i686' and then wonders why we've disallowed
choice of 'kvm'. It also fixes 'virsh version' when only qemu-kvm is
installed."
The path to each emulator binary is hardcoded in libvirt. Daniel
Veillard found[2] this approach "worrying". The merge[3] of pngqemu and
pngkvm will make the reliance on a pathname to determine a binary's
capabilities even less tenable.
Daniel P. Berrange agreed [4]"this approach we're currently using has
pretty much reached the end of its practicality. In particular it is
impossible to solve the problem of figuring out whether a plain 'qemu'
binary supports kvm natively. To adress that, we'd actually need to run
the binary and probe its output. This would require pretty much
re-writing this entire capabilities setup logic from scratch. Similarly
coping with varying path locations is another problem we can't easily
solve with this current code."
1.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-March/msg00281.html
2.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-March/msg00339.html
3. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/KVM_and_QEMU_merge
4.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-March/msg00345.html
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Oisin Feeley
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OisinFeeley
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QA beat up
by Adam Williamson
QA beat is now up:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Beats/QualityAssurance
sorry it's a bit later than normal, had a busy time lately :)
thanks!
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Adam Williamson
Fedora QA Community Monkey
IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org
http://www.happyassassin.net
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FWN #168 status
by Oisin Feeley
Hi everyone,
Thanks for all the beats that have come in. I'm going to edit them
Monday morning probably after about 11:00 UTC-5 (I'm in Eastern Canada
near Montreal). If anyone else wants to have a go before then that's
fine by me.
Thanks again,
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Oisin Feeley
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OisinFeeley
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Fedora Twitter & Identica
by Kam Salisbury
Yay!
Fedora on Twitter.com passed 600 followers!
Fedora on Identi.ca passed 40 followers!
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Kam Salisbury
http://kamsalisbury.com
GPG key: FAF1751E
15 years, 1 month
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Spreading FWN
by Rahul Sundaram
Hi
I think it would be useful if FWN announcements could be copied directly
to more media places.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/SpreadingNews
In particular, atleast, lwn AT lwn.net, editor AT lxer.com and distro AT
distrowatch.com could be cc'ed directly everytime. Check the above page
for more sources.
Rahul
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