microblog accounts

[Karsten Wade]

Suggestion came across the desk to have Fedora News accounts for
useful microblogging services, i.e., identi.ca and twitter.com.

Naturally, we prefer identi.ca, but there are a few good reasons to
grab the twitter.com name as well.  For example, identi.ca for this
account is now configured to copy updates to twitter.com.  That way we
can use the identi.ca/fedoranews account exclusively for ...

* Ongoing Fedora news updates
* News flashes projected on walls at FUDCon and other events
* All the other stuff people use these tools for :)

... while using just the open source, open content tooling directly,
but supporting our Twitter using friends at the same time.

I grabbed and configured the two accounts.  Currently the email is
sent to me (no alerts configured to email, though); this is because
I've failed in the past by setting a mailing list as the account,
thereby sending password reset notices to the world.

http://identi.ca/fedoranews
http://twitter.com/fedoranews

From here, I think we should share the accounts as a group usage so
that people working on Fedora News and Fedora Magazine have access to
push *any* updates.  Then we advertize the identi.ca link in FWN,
etc. and see if people use it. :)

Any other ideas?

Who all should have access to the account?

Any better idea on what to do for email?  (E.g., is there a privately
archived address FWN uses at all?)

- Karsten
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[David Nalley]

2008/11/23 Karsten Wade <kwade(a)redhat.com&gt;:
>  Suggestion came across the desk to have Fedora News accounts for
>  useful microblogging services, i.e., identi.ca and twitter.com.
>
>  Naturally, we prefer identi.ca, but there are a few good reasons to
>  grab the twitter.com name as well.  For example, identi.ca for this
>  account is now configured to copy updates to twitter.com.  That way we
>  can use the identi.ca/fedoranews account exclusively for ...
>
>  * Ongoing Fedora news updates
>  * News flashes projected on walls at FUDCon and other events
>  * All the other stuff people use these tools for :)
>
>  ... while using just the open source, open content tooling directly,
>  but supporting our Twitter using friends at the same time.
>
>  I grabbed and configured the two accounts.  Currently the email is
>  sent to me (no alerts configured to email, though); this is because
>  I've failed in the past by setting a mailing list as the account,
>  thereby sending password reset notices to the world.
>
>  http://identi.ca/fedoranews
>  http://twitter.com/fedoranews
>
>  From here, I think we should share the accounts as a group usage so
>  that people working on Fedora News and Fedora Magazine have access to
>  push *any* updates.  Then we advertize the identi.ca link in FWN,
>  etc. and see if people use it. :)
>
>  Any other ideas?
>
>  Who all should have access to the account?
>
>  Any better idea on what to do for email?  (E.g., is there a privately
>  archived address FWN uses at all?)
>
>  - Karsten
>  --
>  Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Community Gardener
>  http://quaid.fedorapeople.org
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Ohhh that's a great idea - if for no other reason than
twitter/identi.ca squatting is becoming rampant.

[Oisin Feeley]

On Sun, 23 Nov 2008 09:54:46 -0800, "Karsten Wade" <kwade(a)redhat.com&gt;
said:
>  Suggestion came across the desk to have Fedora News accounts for
>  useful microblogging services, i.e., identi.ca and twitter.com. 
[snip]

>  I grabbed and configured the two accounts.  Currently the email is
>  sent to me (no alerts configured to email, though); this is because
>  I've failed in the past by setting a mailing list as the account,
>  thereby sending password reset notices to the world.
>  
>  http://identi.ca/fedoranews
>  http://twitter.com/fedoranews
>  
>  From here, I think we should share the accounts as a group usage so
>  that people working on Fedora News and Fedora Magazine have access to
>  push *any* updates.  Then we advertize the identi.ca link in FWN,
>  etc. and see if people use it. :) 
Probably Fedora Magazine should have its own account so that it's easier
to filter content to just the news, or news + other content.

>  
>  Any other ideas? 
If we're looking at non-Free stuff then Tumblr[1] has an easily used API
and is a richer format than identi.ca/twitter.

If any of this is going to be done then it would be nice to have someone
take responsibility for it /before/ announcing any live feeds. E.g. the
Fedora Magazine feed appears to have solely #147 and #148 which makes it
look as though we've come to a stop.  I'd prefer to have no RSS feed
rather than one which is advertised widely and then makes it look as
though we've fallen off the map, when in fact we're working hard to push
out an issue every week.

>  
>  Who all should have access to the account? 
Whoever is going to guarantee to do the monotonous, weekly task of
ensuring that the updates flow out week-after-week. 
 
>  Any better idea on what to do for email?  (E.g., is there a
> privately
>  archived address FWN uses at all?) 
If there is a privately archived address then it's been lost in the
mists of time along with the Feedburner stuff that I helped ThomasChung
set up.  I guess I could email him and ask.

[1] http://www.tumblr.com

Best wishes,
-- 
  Oisin Feeley
  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OisinFeeley

[Karsten Wade]

On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 02:24:09PM -0500, Oisin Feeley wrote:
>  
>  On Sun, 23 Nov 2008 09:54:46 -0800, "Karsten Wade" <kwade(a)redhat.com&gt;
>  said:
>  > 
>  > From here, I think we should share the accounts as a group usage so
>  > that people working on Fedora News and Fedora Magazine have access to
>  > push *any* updates.  Then we advertize the identi.ca link in FWN,
>  > etc. and see if people use it. :)
>  
>  Probably Fedora Magazine should have its own account so that it's easier
>  to filter content to just the news, or news + other content. 
Reckon what I was thinking ... microblogging is similar to a "news
flash" and figured we could all share.  But perhaps the Magazine wants
it's own account for e.g. conferences, etc.

>  If any of this is going to be done then it would be nice to have
> someone
>  take responsibility for it /before/ announcing any live feeds. E.g. the
>  Fedora Magazine feed appears to have solely #147 and #148 which makes it
>  look as though we've come to a stop.  I'd prefer to have no RSS feed
>  rather than one which is advertised widely and then makes it look as
>  though we've fallen off the map, when in fact we're working hard to push
>  out an issue every week. 
I understand what you mean in concept, but don't understand the
specific example?  What got stopped in there?

>  > Who all should have access to the account?
>  
>  Whoever is going to guarantee to do the monotonous, weekly task of
>  ensuring that the updates flow out week-after-week.  
Ah, actually ... what I had in mind was to spread the account access,
maybe to _every_ FWN Beat writer + others who do marketing.  Make it
lively by having regular updates from multiple people appearing as one
Fedora News microblogging voice.

For example, when things get really heated in f-devel-l, you could
send an alert and pull more people in to the fight/audience. ;-D

What I'd recommend is that the address for password recovery be set to
whoever is main wrangler/editor for FWN.  This is all un-automatic
stuff, but a way to start, and we can look in to more robust methods
later.

Anyway, accounts secured, what and how figuring goes on ...

- Karsten
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http://quaid.fedorapeople.org
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[Oisin Feeley]

On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 13:52:53 -0800, "Karsten Wade" <kwade(a)redhat.com&gt;
said:
>  On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 02:24:09PM -0500, Oisin Feeley wrote:
>  > 
>  > On Sun, 23 Nov 2008 09:54:46 -0800, "Karsten Wade"
> <kwade(a)redhat.com&gt;
>  > said:
>  > > 
>  > > From here, I think we should share the accounts as a group usage so
>  > > that people working on Fedora News and Fedora Magazine have access to
>  > > push *any* updates.  Then we advertize the identi.ca link in FWN,
>  > > etc. and see if people use it. :)
>  > 
>  > Probably Fedora Magazine should have its own account so that it's easier
>  > to filter content to just the news, or news + other content.
>  
>  Reckon what I was thinking ... microblogging is similar to a "news
>  flash" and figured we could all share.  But perhaps the Magazine wants
>  it's own account for e.g. conferences, etc. 
Probably makes sense. I guess I was still thinking along the lines of
RSS/Atom.

>  > If any of this is going to be done then it would be nice to have
> someone
>  > take responsibility for it /before/ announcing any live feeds. E.g. the
>  > Fedora Magazine feed appears to have solely #147 and #148 which makes it
>  > look as though we've come to a stop.  I'd prefer to have no RSS feed
>  > rather than one which is advertised widely and then makes it look as
>  > though we've fallen off the map, when in fact we're working hard to push
>  > out an issue every week.
>  
>  I understand what you mean in concept, but don't understand the
>  specific example?  What got stopped in there? 
I really don't know.  I don't follow it too closely due to time, but a
couple of people asked me what was going on. I haven't gotten involved
with FM as it just seems like doubling up on busy-work that could be
spent on content generation. I can understand that wrapping up all the
news in one spot might be nice but I'd be perfectly happy with our wiki
page with ATOM/RSS, microblogs, tumblelogs pointing to it. I was a bit
irked that some people thought we'd been on break since #148.  

>  > > Who all should have access to the account?
>  > 
>  > Whoever is going to guarantee to do the monotonous, weekly task of
>  > ensuring that the updates flow out week-after-week. 
>  
>  Ah, actually ... what I had in mind was to spread the account access,
>  maybe to _every_ FWN Beat writer + others who do marketing.  Make it
>  lively by having regular updates from multiple people appearing as one
>  Fedora News microblogging voice. 
I like that idea.  Spreading access is what we should be trying to do.

>  For example, when things get really heated in f-devel-l, you could
>  send an alert and pull more people in to the fight/audience. ;-D 
:) Kind of like throwing a can of gas on a raging fire to see what
happens! 

>  What I'd recommend is that the address for password recovery be
> set to
>  whoever is main wrangler/editor for FWN.  This is all un-automatic
>  stuff, but a way to start, and we can look in to more robust methods
>  later.
>  
>  Anyway, accounts secured, what and how figuring goes on ... 
I signed us up for a couple of tumblr addresses and will make contact
with Thomas about the Feedburner stuff tonight.  

Best wishes,
-- 
  Oisin Feeley
  http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OisinFeeley

[Nicu Buculei]

Karsten Wade wrote:
>  
>  I grabbed and configured the two accounts.  Currently the email is
>  sent to me (no alerts configured to email, though); this is because
>  I've failed in the past by setting a mailing list as the account,
>  thereby sending password reset notices to the world.
>  
>  http://identi.ca/fedoranews
>  http://twitter.com/fedoranews 
I know this is minor but can you change the avatar used at identi.ca? It 
seems they are so bad that can't cope with transparent PNGs and you have 
to enforce a white background.

Another minor complaint: you set the homepage to 
http://news.fedoraproject.org/ which is not working for me, I guess the 
redirect is broken (AFAIK, that was supposed to redirect to fp.o/wiki/news/)

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[Karsten Wade]

On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 09:37:27AM +0200, Nicu Buculei wrote:
>  Karsten Wade wrote:
> >
> > I grabbed and configured the two accounts.  Currently the email is
> > sent to me (no alerts configured to email, though); this is because
> > I've failed in the past by setting a mailing list as the account,
> > thereby sending password reset notices to the world.
> >
> > http://identi.ca/fedoranews
> > http://twitter.com/fedoranews
>
>  I know this is minor but can you change the avatar used at identi.ca? It  
>  seems they are so bad that can't cope with transparent PNGs and you have  
>  to enforce a white background. 
Ah, that's the problem, thanks.  Now I've got a black border I didn't
intend, but that's at least an interim improvement.

>  Another minor complaint: you set the homepage to  
>  http://news.fedoraproject.org/ which is not working for me, I guess the  
>  redirect is broken (AFAIK, that was supposed to redirect to 
>  fp.o/wiki/news/) 
Yes, I noticed that later.  I can fix the account, but it's really the
redirect that needs some love.

- Karsten
-- 
Karsten 'quaid' Wade, Community Gardener
http://quaid.fedorapeople.org
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