Hi guys,
Greetings!
I'm free now to be of assistance on this. Maybe I can join on the
documentation part of Fedora 10 (Beta) now. Just let me know.
Thanks,
--
Michael F. Mondragon
GPG Key ID: F3892203
Email: iam [at] michaelfmondragon.info
Mobile #: +63 929 232 5070
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 10:42 PM, Pascal Calarco <pcalarco(a)nd.edu> wrote:
-- Fedora Weekly News Issue 146 --
Welcome to Fedora Weekly News Issue 146 for the week ending October 5, 2008.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue146
In this issue of FWN, Max Spevack covers the announcement of the beta for
Fedora 10 (Cambridge) and reminds us of the upcoming Fedora Board IRC chat.
Oisin Feeley provides another detailed look into Fedora development,
covering the recent PATH:/sbin discussion, efforts to speed up Modprobe and
MAKEDEV, announcement of the Fedora 10 early branch for developers, and
more. Jason Taylor writes on documentation, including discussion on changing
language codes in Fedora and the beginnings of an ongoing debate on how to
properly document examples of system commands. Runa Bhattacharjee, writing
for the translation project, provides detail on the Fedora 10 translation
dates and summarizes the most recent meeting of the translation team.
Huzaifa Sidhpurwala updates us on discussion on the infrastructure list,
including metalinks for Fedora 10 downloads. Nicu Buculei covers the release
of the second issue of the art team excellent voice, Echo Monthly News, and
Paul Frields' recent request for a remix logo, a secondary watermark for
derivative spins. David Nalley brings us up-to-date on the latest security
advisories for Fedora 8 and 9 issued this past week. Finally, Dale Bewley
gets us current with the many happenings on the four virtualization lists he
covers -- the Enterprise Management Tools, Fedora Xen, library
virtualization and oVirt development lists.
If you are interested in contributing to Fedora Weekly News, please see our
'join' page[1].
FWN Editorial Team:
Pascal Calarco
Oisin Feeley
Huzaifa Sidhpurwala
[1]
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/NewsProject/Join
---
* 1 Fedora Weekly News Issue 146
o 1.1 Announcements
+ 1.1.1 Fedora 10 (Cambridge) Beta
+ 1.1.2 Fedora Board IRC Meeting
o 1.2 Developments
+ 1.2.1 PATH:/sbin Tab Confusion
+ 1.2.2 Speeding-up Modprobe and MAKEDEV
+ 1.2.3 Uniform Proxy Settings
+ 1.2.4 Fedora 10 Early Branch Now Available
+ 1.2.5 SELinux - Copying ISO Files
o 1.3 Documentation
+ 1.3.1 New Language Codes
+ 1.3.2 Command Examples Documentation
o 1.4 Translation
+ 1.4.1 F10 Translation deadline revised to 21st October 2008
+ 1.4.2 Fedora Translation Project meeting held
o 1.5 Infrastructure
+ 1.5.1 func logrotate fix
+ 1.5.2 metalinks for F10 download pages
+ 1.5.3 smtp-server?
o 1.6 Artwork
+ 1.6.1 The latest news about Echo icons
+ 1.6.2 Remix logo
o 1.7 Security Advisories
+ 1.7.1 Fedora 9 Security Advisories
+ 1.7.2 Fedora 8 Security Advisories
o 1.8 Virtualization
+ 1.8.1 Enterprise Management Tools List
# 1.8.1.1 virt-manager Adds Disk and Network I/O Graphs
# 1.8.1.2 virt-manager Supports Multiple Serial
Consoles
# 1.8.1.3 Maintaining VM State While Restarting
libvirtd Needed
+ 1.8.2 Fedora Xen List
# 1.8.2.1 No Dom0 Support in Fedora 10
+ 1.8.3 Libvirt List
# 1.8.3.1 Running Xen Guests Without xend
# 1.8.3.2 cgroups API and LXC Driver Support
# 1.8.3.3 libvirtd Multi-threaded Support in the Works
# 1.8.3.4 Host Device Enumeration API
# 1.8.3.5 SDL Display Support for QEMU Driver
+ 1.8.4 oVirt Devel List
# 1.8.4.1 oVirt Web API ala EC2 Web Services
# 1.8.4.2 QPID Modeling Framework and libvirt-qpid
# 1.8.4.3 Booting Guest From ISO Image
-- Announcements --
In this section, we cover announcements from the Fedora Project.
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/
Contributing Writer: Max Spevack
-- Fedora 10 (Cambridge) Beta --
Jesse Keating announced[1] the release of Fedora 10 Beta. "Just on the heels
of the Fedora Project's fifth anniversary, the Beta of Fedora Linux version
10 (code-named Cambridge) is now available."
Among the new, fun, and interesting features:
* New NetworkManager with connection sharing
* Improved printer handling
* Remote virtualization and easier virt storage
* Sectool, an auditing and security testing framework
* RPM 4.6, the first big RPM change in several years
[1]
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2008-September/msg000...
Additionally, Jesse reported[2] "there was a small problem during image
creation that led to the x86_64 Live KDE actually being the content for the
x86_64 Live XFCE. I have recreated these images and updated the master
mirror and the torrent server."
For full disclosure, here are the SHA1SUMs of each:
6f32b75c09838a407371aec211e1951d357baf03 *F10-Beta-x86_64-Live-KDE.iso
04195ea383229bdd356188e86ba8c39985118abb *F10-Beta-x86_64-Live-XFCE.iso
[2]
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2008-September/msg000...
-- Fedora Board IRC Meeting --
Paul Frields reminded[3] everyone that "the Board is holding its monthly
public meeting on Tuesday, 7 October 2008, at 1800 UTC on IRC Freenode."
The public is invited to do the following:
* Join #fedora-board-meeting to see the Board's conversation. This
channel is read-only for non-Board members.
* Join #fedora-board-public to discuss topics and post questions. This
channel is read/write for everyone.
The moderator will direct questions from the #fedora-board-public channel to
the Board members at #fedora-board-meeting. This should limit confusion and
ensure our logs are useful to everyone.
[3]
http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2008-October/msg00000...
-- Developments --
In this section the people, personalities and debates on the @fedora-devel
mailing list are summarized.
Contributing Writer: Oisin Feeley
-- PATH:/sbin Tab Confusion --
Some time ago (2008-04-23) it was proposed[1] by Tom Callaway to append
/sbin\ and /usr/sbin to the path of non-root users. The rationale was to
make it easier for non-root users to use tools which are traditionally
perceived as "administration" tools, for example ifconfig, parted and fdisk.
A good overview of the problem was posted[2] by Behdad Esfahbod . An
excellent compendium of objections to the proposal posted[3] by Enrico
Scholz encapsulates most of the problems perceived at the time. Several
prolonged discussions on the topic mostly centered[4] around alternate
strategies which included moving binaries from /sbin to /bin, symlinking
from one to the other directory, or setting up[5] sudo by default.
[1]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-April/msg01625.html
[2]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-April/msg01661.html
[3]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-April/msg01649.html
[4]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-April/msg01727.html
[5]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-April/msg01629.html
The case for moving many of the binaries was made[6] strongly by David
Cantrell and arch-skeptic Ralf Corsepius voiced[7] a general objection that
"[...] this discussion is as old as */sbin exists [... and I] consider both
proposals to be populist propaganda." After much thrashing out of the issue
the proposal was coalesced[8] in the Feature named "/sbin Sanity" and
/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin were appended to the PATH of normal users of
Fedora 10. A related change suggested was to allow firstboot to configure
sudo to grant the first created user all privileges but this feature is not
present in Fedora 10 Beta.
With the release of Fedora 10 Beta some of the predicted daily
inconveniences of the change have been realized[9]. Matt Miller (who had
been consistently opposed to the change) reported that command-line
completion was cluttered with multiple unwanted choices: "We've just made
the command line a lot less user friendly for common use in exchange for an
ugly fix to a small inconvenience." In a wryly humorous post he noted that
due to wanting /etc/profile.d to continue working he could not simply set a
static path. Stephen Smoogen joked[10] that Matt was the "[...] first
systems administrator I have met in several years who hasn't had
/usr/sbin:/sbin in their default path. You sure they didn't make you a
manager and didn't tell you?" and added that "I think the chance for
putting
it back is still there.. if someone is willing to do the work on the hard
but correct way? I think it was crickets the last couple of times when
volunteers were asked for that." Nigel Jones was among several who
asserted[11] that typing the full paths was what they preferred and Stephen
admitted[12] that he had received some offlist ribbing and promised to mend
his ways: "I am removing /sbin:/usr/sbin from my path and learning to type
/usr/sbin for the commands I have 'shortcutted' over the years. Next I will
be removing the bad habit of '/sbin/sudo bash' :)"
[6]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-April/msg01732.html
[7]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-April/msg01761.html
[8]
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SbinSanity
[9]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-October/msg00001.html
[10]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-October/msg00003.html
[11]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-October/msg00004.html
[12]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-October/msg00181.html
Ville Skyttä and Matt Miller volunteered[13] to take up the burden of moving
appropriate binaries out of /sbin and into /bin in order to help revert the
change.
[13]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-October/msg00003.html
Over on @fedora-desktop Rahul Sundaram suggested a kickstart snippet which
would add the first user to the wheel group and add blanket permissions to
the wheel group in /etc/sudoers . Colin Walters agreed[14] with the concept
but wondered "[a]re we too far into the F10 process for this?"
[14]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-desktop-list/2008-October/msg00006...
-- Speeding-up Modprobe and MAKEDEV --
Inspired by Arjan van de Ven's five-second Asus EeePC boot and Mandriva's
work on similar topics Jakub Jelinek posted[1] his patches to improve the
speed of modprobe and MAKEDEV. He hoped that this sharing would result in
more community experimentation. The first patch enables depmod -a to produce
compact binary files which can be searched for aliases and dependencies more
quickly than the standard text files, which are still also produced. The
patch to MAKEDEV similarly reduces the size of the searched files, in this
case config files, and improves the efficiency of an inner loop. The times
appeared to be decreased by several orders of magnitude according to the
sample figures posted by Jakub.
[1]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-October/msg00043.html
Kyle McMartin was excited[2] and suggested that "[t]he biggest win by far
for MAKEDEV is profiling the often hit devices, and prioritizing things.
Dave Airlie moved a bunch of the cciss and other almost never-seen devices
to be sourced last and ended up with a huge win." Bill Nottingham
responded[3] that MAKEDEV ought not to be run at boot at all. Jakub Jelinek
was not optimistic that the MAKEDEV patch would be applied upstream as he
noted[4] that he had sent it upstream over ten months ago.
[2]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-October/msg00046.html
[3]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-October/msg00047.html
[4]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-October/msg00054.html
-- Uniform Proxy Settings --
The issue of constructing a uniform method of enforcing proxy settings for
applications was raised[1] by Kulbir Saini. He complained "[w]henever I try
a new version of Fedora, the first problem I face is setting the proxy. It
seems for almost every application, I have to specify proxy at a different
place."
[1]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-October/msg00097.html
A reply by Simon Andrews recapped[2] previous debates on the topic by
pointing out the twin problems of a lack of a common setting and the
inability of many applications to update their proxy settings on the fly.
Simon suggested that a localhost proxy could be forced on all applications
if NetworkManager were to contain hooks to re-route local proxy requests
either directly to the internet or via a secondary proxy. He admitted "this
all feels a bit icky to me - but I can't think of a nicer way of doing this
which doesn't require the cooperation of the authors of every proxy-aware
application."
[2]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-October/msg00159.html
Nicolas 'kwizart' Chauvet had also thought about the problem and made[3]
some changes to libproxy which he hoped would solve the problem. Dan Winship
wrote[4] a great post explaining that libproxy could adaptively use
whichever backend was appropriate for the environment in which it was used
and although it was not widely used by applications it looked set to become
an integral part of GNOME.
[3]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-October/msg00098.html
[4]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-October/msg00185.html
After Colin Walters commented[5] that he would like to "[...] see the
desktop standardize around libsoup[6] , for two primary reasons: 1) Mainloop
integration 2) Hopefully forthcoming support for reading Firefox cookies
[...]" a minor flamewar erupted when James Antill wondered "Why do
"desktop
people" keep proposing things that are _only_ acceptable in a monolithic
desktop application?" with reference to the mainloop integration. This
developed into a comparison[7] between future scenarios in which PackageKit
overrode yum downloads in a desktop scenario versus the simplicity of using
yum on the command line. James was scathing on the subject of ignoring
actual users (whom he asserted prefer gnome-terminal) to "[...] 60+ year
olds who don't, and are about to be a majority of our users RSN."
[5]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-October/msg00188.html
[6] libsoup is a GNOME client/server library for HTTP used in evolution,
seahorse and rhythmbox among others and is integral to the OnlineDesktop.
[7]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-October/msg00201.html
-- Fedora 10 Early Branch Now Available --
Jesse Keating announced[1] on 2008-10-01 that it was now possible for
developers wishing to concentrate on stabilization to branch their packages.
A link to request a branch was provided. In response to Jeroen van Meeuwen
it was explained[2] that this was not mass-early-branching but was an
attempt to satisfy two classes of maintainers: those that needed to continue
future development and those that used the entire development cycle for the
current release.
[1]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-October/msg00083.html
[2]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-October/msg00126.html
Michael Schwendt rejected[3] the idea as "[u]nconvincing and not helpful",
citing increased bureaucracy as the main negative outcome and suggesting
that a potential cascade of maintainers scrambling to branch and rebuild in
response to early branches of dependencies would result.
[3]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-October/msg00202.html
-- SELinux - Copying ISO Files --
A paraliptic swipe at SELinux by Jon Masters asked[1] "[...] how is the
*average* user supposed to [...] copy the content of /mnt over to e.g.
/somewhere/fedora/9/i386 for NFS installs [?]" Dan Walsh was surprised[2]
and responded "Why would the copy fail? cp should just work and set the
files to the context of the destination directory. If this fails it is a
bug." Jon conceded[3] that there was a bug and segued into a mini-rant on
SELinux.
[1]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-October/msg00140.html
[2]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-October/msg00154.html
[3]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-October/msg00203.html
Jesse Keating offered[4]: "The average user double clicks on the iso in
Nautilus, which mounts it for them. Then they click/drag the fileset to
where they want it and Nautilus copies it for them."
[4]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-October/msg00174.html
-- Documentation --
In this section, we cover the Fedora Documentation Project.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DocsProject
Contributing Writer: Jason Taylor
-- New Language Codes --
There was some discussion[1] this week between the docs team and members of
the translation team about changing the language codes in the Fedora
documentation. The proposed change(s) would make the Fedora documentation,
in this case the Release-Notes compatible with ISO naming standards.
[1]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-docs-list/2008-September/msg00097....
-- Command Examples Documentation
Murray McAllister brought to light some discussion recently about how to
properly document examples of system commands[1]. There was some interesting
discussion on list about how to go about this and we look forward to a
consensus in the near future.
[1]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-docs-list/2008-October/msg00008.html
-- Translation--
This section covers the news surrounding the Fedora Translation (L10n)
Project.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N
Contributing Writer: Runa Bhattacharjee
-- F10 Translation deadline revised to 21st October 2008 --
The software and documentation translation deadlines for Fedora 10 has been
revised to 21st October 2008[1][2][3][4]. The decision was taken after a
meeting last week between John Poelstra and the Translation and
Documentation teams. Currently, the Fedora Translation and Documentation
teams are finalizing the process of task scheduling in perspective of the
main Fedora Release Engineering schedule which would be used for future
Fedora releases as well.
[1]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2008-October/msg00019.html
[2]
http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-10/f-10-docs-tasks.html
[3]
http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-10/f-10-trans-tasks.html
[4]
http://poelstra.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-10/f-10-all-tasks.html
-- Fedora Translation Project meeting held --
The fortnightly meeting of the Fedora Translation Project was held on 30th
September 2008[5], chaired by Dimitris Glezos. Issues discussed included an
update of the translation schedule revision and problems with publican
documents on the status page. Additionally, Robert-André Mauchin raised a
concern about identification of new translators for a language, being
sponsored into the cvsl10n group.
[5]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2008-October/msg00017.html
-- Infrastructure --
This section contains the discussion happening on the
fedora-infrastructure-list
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure
Contributing Writer: Huzaifa Sidhpurwala
-- func logrotate fix --
Mike McGrath wrote on the @fedora-infrastructure-list [1] that he would like
to implement a global fix to logrotate in which /etc/init.d/funcd
condrestart would be replaced by /etc/init.d/funcd condrestart > /dev/null.
The reason for the fix is because the original config is generating spam.
However [[JonStanley|Jon Stanley] opposed this[2], saying that it violates
the concept of a change freeze. However at the end the change was
implemented.
[1]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-infrastructure-list/2008-September...
[2]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-infrastructure-list/2008-September...
-- metalinks for F10 download pages --
Matt Domsch wrote on the @fedora-infrastructure-list [3] that mirrors.fp.o
now supports metalinks [1]. metalinks are XML documents that act like a yum
mirror list, but with more detail, allowing client download tools to more
easily select a mirror that will be fastest for them.
[3]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-infrastructure-list/2008-October/m...
Jeffrey Ollie asked if these links were supposed to work on firefox, atleast
for testing [4] on which Jesse replied that there was some work done on
Mirror Manager yesterday and they should be working.
[4]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-infrastructure-list/2008-October/m...
-- smtp-server? --
Thomas Spura wrote on @fedora-infrastructure-list [5] and asked "Why isn't
it possible to configure an smtp-server to send username fedoraproject org
mails?" To this Mike replied that in In your mail client you should be able
to set a @fedoraproject.org address. Many other providers support this as
well (like gmail for example) [6]
[5]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-infrastructure-list/2008-October/m...
[6]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-infrastructure-list/2008-October/m...
-- Artwork --
In this section, we cover the Fedora Artwork Project.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork
Contributing Writer: Nicu Buculei
-- The latest news about Echo icons --
Martin Sourada announced[1] on @fedora-art a new issue of the Echo Monthly
News[2], a periodic publication outlining the development in the last month
for the Echo icon set. We covered part of them in Fedora Weekly News, but
for those interested in details, it is a good read, covering the following
topics: "1. New Icons; 2. Updated Tutorials; 3. Guidelines Update; 4.
Releases; 5. Echo Enabled in Rawhide as Default Icon Set;6. Icons We Need to
Create for F10; 7. Roadmap Updates".
[1]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-October/msg00021.html
[2]
https://fedorahosted.org/echo-icon-theme/wiki/MonthlyNews/Issue2
-- Remix logo --
Paul Frields asked for a logo graphic, a secondary wordkmark, on
@fedora-art: "Having a secondary wordmark, a community-usable mark for
derivative spins, will help drive more interest in Fedora", a process
crossed with @fedora-marketing "I'll start a discussion about the wording
for the mark on Fedora Marketing List which anyone should (as always) feel
free to join". After receiving input from marketing and legal the name was
settled to "fedora remix" and a wiki page[2] was created to hold the
proposals. So far it has evolving proposals from Nicu Buculei, Mairin Duffy,
Clint Savage and Jayme Ayres.
[1]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-art-list/2008-September/msg00514.html
[2]
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pfrields/Secondary_trademark_design
-- Security Advisories --
In this section, we cover Security Advisories from fedora-package-announce.
https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-package-announce
Contributing Writer: David Nalley
-- Fedora 9 Security Advisories --
* rubygem-activerecord-2.1.1-1.fc9 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-September/ms...
* rubygem-activesupport-2.1.1-1.fc9 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-September/ms...
* rubygems-1.2.0-2.fc9 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-September/ms...
* rubygem-activeresource-2.1.1-1.fc9 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-September/ms...
* rubygem-rails-2.1.1-2.fc9 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-September/ms...
* rubygem-actionpack-2.1.1-1.fc9 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-September/ms...
* rubygem-actionmailer-2.1.1-1.fc9 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-September/ms...
* firefox-3.0.2-1.fc9 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-September/ms...
* xulrunner-1.9.0.2-1.fc9 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-September/ms...
* cairo-dock-1.6.2.3-1.fc9.1 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-September/ms...
* devhelp-0.19.1-4.fc9 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-September/ms...
* blam-1.8.5-2.fc9 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-September/ms...
* epiphany-2.22.2-4.fc9 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-September/ms...
* chmsee-1.0.1-5.fc9 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-September/ms...
* epiphany-extensions-2.22.1-4.fc9 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-September/ms...
* galeon-2.0.5-3.fc9 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-September/ms...
* evolution-rss-0.1.0-3.fc9 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-September/ms...
* gnome-web-photo-0.3-14.fc9 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-September/ms...
* gnome-python2-extras-2.19.1-18.fc9 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-September/ms...
* google-gadgets-0.10.1-5.fc9 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-September/ms...
* gtkmozembedmm-1.4.2.cvs20060817-21.fc9 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-September/ms...
* kazehakase-0.5.5-1.fc9.1 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-September/ms...
* Miro-1.2.4-3.fc9 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-September/ms...
* mugshot-1.2.2-2.fc9 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-September/ms...
* mozvoikko-0.9.5-3.fc9 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-September/ms...
* totem-2.23.2-7.fc9 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-September/ms...
* ruby-gnome2-0.17.0-2.fc9 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-September/ms...
* yelp-2.22.1-5.fc9 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-September/ms...
* seamonkey-1.1.12-1.fc9 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-September/ms...
* emacspeak-28.0-3.fc9 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-October/msg0...
* libxml2-2.7.1-2.fc9 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-October/msg0...
* pam_krb5-2.3.0-2.fc9 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-October/msg0...
-- Fedora 8 Security Advisories --
* blam-1.8.3-18.fc8 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-September/ms...
* firefox-2.0.0.17-1.fc8 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-September/ms...
* chmsee-1.0.0-4.31.fc8 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-September/ms...
* cairo-dock-1.6.2.3-1.fc8.1 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-September/ms...
* epiphany-2.20.3-7.fc8 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-September/ms...
* devhelp-0.16.1-10.fc8 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-September/ms...
* epiphany-extensions-2.20.1-10.fc8 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-September/ms...
* evolution-rss-0.0.8-12.fc8 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-September/ms...
* galeon-2.0.4-5.fc8.3 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-September/ms...
* gnome-web-photo-0.3-13.fc8 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-September/ms...
* gnome-python2-extras-2.19.1-17.fc8 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-September/ms...
* kazehakase-0.5.5-1.fc8.1 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-September/ms...
* Miro-1.2.3-4.fc8 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-September/ms...
* gtkmozembedmm-1.4.2.cvs20060817-23.fc8 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-September/ms...
* liferea-1.4.15-4.fc8 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-September/ms...
* openvrml-0.17.8-2.0.fc8 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-September/ms...
* ruby-gnome2-0.17.0-2.fc8 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-September/ms...
* yelp-2.20.0-13.fc8 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-September/ms...
* seamonkey-1.1.12-1.fc8 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-September/ms...
* emacspeak-28.0-3.fc8 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-October/msg0...
* libxml2-2.7.1-2.fc8 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-October/msg0...
* pam_krb5-2.2.18-2.fc8 -
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2008-October/msg0...
-- Virtualization --
In this section, we cover discussion on the @et-mgmnt-tools-list,
@fedora-xen-list, @libvirt-list and @ovirt-devel-list of Fedora
virtualization technologies.
Contributing Writer: Dale Bewley
-- Enterprise Management Tools List --
This section contains the discussion happening on the et-mgmt-tools list
-- virt-manager Adds Disk and Network I/O Graphs --
Guido Günther submitted[1] a patch for virt-manager to display with disk and
network input/output graphs in addition to the CPU and memory utilization
graphs.
[1]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/et-mgmt-tools/2008-October/msg00026.html
-- virt-manager Supports Multiple Serial Consoles --
Cole Robinson patched[1] virt-manager to combine "the serial console window
with the VM details window. Opening the serial console now appends a tab to
the details view. In addition, multiple serial consoles are now supported,
not just the primary/first defined console, though this still only works for
'pty' devices."
[1]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/et-mgmt-tools/2008-September/msg00109.html
-- Maintaining VM State While Restarting libvirtd Needed --
Upgrades of libvirt necessitate a restart of libvirtd. Guido Günther
asked[1] if there was any progress on saving enough state to restart
libvirtd without restarting any guests. Daniel P. Berrange replied[2] this
has been solved for the LXC driver and the same approach may apply to the
QEMU driver.
[1]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/et-mgmt-tools/2008-September/msg00093.html
[2]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/et-mgmt-tools/2008-September/msg00094.html
Guido pointed[3] out "This would solve the problem of restarting libvirtd.
How are we going to distinguish this from daemon shutdown on e.g. system
reboot?" To which, Daniel B. proposed[4] "We can probably distinguish by
picking a specific signal for orderly shutdown of the daemon + vms, vs a
simple restart." Adding, "Perhaps we should have an explicit API, or a
convenient virsh command to shutdown all VMs in one go."
[3]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/et-mgmt-tools/2008-October/msg00046.html
[4]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/et-mgmt-tools/2008-October/msg00047.html
-- Fedora Xen List --
This section contains the discussion happening on the fedora-xen list.
-- No Dom0 Support in Fedora 10 --
Daniel P. Berrange laid[1] it out there. "There is pretty much zero chance
that Fedora 10 will include a Xen Dom0 host. While upstream Xen developers
are making good progress on porting Dom0 to paravirt_ops, there is simply
too little time for this to be ready for Fedora 10. So if you need to use
Fedora 10 as a host, then KVM is your only viable option at this time. If
you can wait for Fedora 11 (or use RHEL-5 / CentOS-5) then Xen may be an
option for you." See also FWN 143[2].
[1]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-xen/2008-September/msg00035.html
[2]
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue143#Laying_the_Groundwork_for_Xen...
-- Libvirt List --
This section contains the discussion happening on the libvir-list.
-- Running Xen Guests Without xend --
Stefan de Konink asked[1] if users could someday run xen guests without a
xend running. Gerd Hoffmann said[2] there are patches queued up which begin
to allow qemu to do this. Adding, "If things work out well we might have
that in the F11 timeframe." Assuming Dom0 support in the pv_ops based kernel
is completed.
[1]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2008-September/msg00402.html
[2]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2008-September/msg00406.html
-- cgroups API and LXC Driver Support --
Dan Smith posted[1] a patch set which "adds basic cgroup[2] support to the
LXC driver. It consists of a small internal cgroup manipulation API, as well
as changes to the driver itself to utilize the support."
[1]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2008-September/msg00415.html
[2]
http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/cgroups.txt
Dan agreed[3] to "reswizzle" the API after Daniel P. Berrange commented[4],
"My thought on the overall design of this internal API is that it is too low
level & pushing too much work to the caller." Also, "While LXC driver is
the
only current user, as more controllers are added I anticipate that QEMU
driver might use cgroups, eg for I/O controls and CPU schedular controls. As
such I'd expect an API to be at a slightly higher level of abstraction,
strongly typed and a single cgroup object associated with a domain object."
[3]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2008-September/msg00436.html
[4]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2008-September/msg00434.html
There was discussion of how to mount the controllers. The cgroups kernel
interace is less than ideal, because[5] "...once you mount a particular
controller, you can't change the way it's mounted. So if libvirt mounted
each controller separately, then the admin couldn't have a mount with
multiple controllers active, and vica-verca."
[5]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2008-September/msg00432.html
This prompted Balbir Singh to begin a new thread recommending[6] the use of
libcgroups[7] rather than an internal implementation. Adding, "I understand
that in the past there has been a perception that libcgroups might not yet
be ready, because we did not have ABI stability built into the library and
the header file had old comments about things changing. I would urge the
group to look at the current implementation of libcgroups (look at v0.32)
and help us."
[6]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2008-October/msg00095.html
[7]
http://libcg.sf.net
Daniel Veillard pointed[8] to issues of dependency and API completeness
raised[9] in the past. "In the meantime we got a relatively simple,
sufficient for now, usable right now, patch fullfilling our needs." Adding
support for taking Dan Smith's patch with it's internal cgroups
implementation.
[8]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2008-October/msg00097.html
[9]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2008-September/msg00096.html
Dhaval Giani offered[10] that version 0.32 of libcrgoups will be available
in Rawhide soon. The thread amicably continued on in great detail about the
implementation details of libcgroups.
[10]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2008-October/msg00103.html
-- libvirtd Multi-threaded Support in the Works --
Daniel P. Berrange posted[1] "I've been doing some proof of concept work to
make the libvirtd daemon multi-threaded, and this in turns mean that the
QEMU / LXC / OpenVZ drivers need to have some degree of locking on their
internal data structures." The internal APIs extensive use of linked lists
makes fine grained locking of objects very difficult, which lead to Daniel's
series of patches aimed at removing all use of linked lists.
[1]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2008-October/msg00054.html
-- Host Device Enumeration API --
In August David Lively announced[1] an intent to work on an API[2] for host
device enumeration, creation, and deletion. Daniel P. Berrange inquired[3]
as to the status of the work. The "oVirt guys" are keen to have the
functionality ASAP.
[1]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2008-August/msg00548.html
[2]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2008-April/msg00005.html
[3]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2008-September/msg00398.html
David reported[4] progress on HAL-based and more limited DevKit-based
drivers and posted a preliminary patch. Daniel B. concurred[5] that "HAL is
clearly the more portable option for a little while to come, but for Linux
at least DeviceKit will (eventually) be the preferred way to access this
kind of info." David later gave[6] up on DevKit for now. Work continues on
the API.
[4]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2008-September/msg00423.html
[5]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2008-September/msg00430.html
[6]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2008-October/msg00076.html
-- SDL Display Support for QEMU Driver --
Daniel P. Berrange posted[1] a patch to enable SDL displays for QEMU. Daniel
explained "QEMU has two modes of providing a graphical display, VNC and SDL.
Now most of our tools just use VNC, but occasionally people want to use SDL
for some crazy reason. We already support this in Xen driver, but the QEMU
impl has been rather lacking."
[1]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2008-October/msg00037.html
-- oVirt Devel List --
This section contains the discussion happening on the ovirt-devel list.
-- oVirt Web API ala EC2 Web Services --
Noel Rocher asked[1] if there was web-enabled API similar to EC2[2] which
could be used manage guest images and instances. Hugh O. Brock explained[3]
there is a REST API for scripting most oVirt operations, soon to be
accompanied by a command-line interface. However, the API is in early stages
and poorly documented.
[1]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/ovirt-devel/2008-September/msg00520.html
[2]
http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/
[3]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/ovirt-devel/2008-September/msg00521.html
-- QPID Modeling Framework and libvirt-qpid --
Ian Main wanted to say[1] a few words about the patches to libvirt-qpid into
ovirt which "provides an interface with libvirt using QMF[2] (qpid modeling
framework) which utilizes the AMQP[3] protocol. The Advanced Message Queuing
Protocol (AMQP) is an open standard application layer protocol providing
reliable transport of messages."
"QMF provides a modeling framework layer on top of qpid (which implements
AMQP). This interface allows you to manage hosts, domains, pools etc. as a
set of objects with properties and methods."
"With this patch in place, you can log into the WUI, and use qpid-tool (a
generic qpid QMF client) to view and manipulate nodes/domains/pools etc."
QPID was added[4] to libvirt in September.
[1]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/ovirt-devel/2008-October/msg00017.html
[2]
http://cwiki.apache.org/qpid/
[3]
http://jira.amqp.org/confluence/display/AMQP/
[4]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2008-September/msg00388.html
-- Booting Guest From ISO Image --
Darryl L. Pierce is adding[1] support for booting a VM from an ISO image.
After adding an ISO image to the Cobbler server on the appliance with the
full NFS URL needed to mount it, "If the filename ends in '.iso' then the
virtual machine will mount the file as a CDROM device and boot it.
Otherwise, it mounts it as a hard disk device." There remains a bug which
requires manual intervention to complete the boot from CDROM.
[1]
https://www.redhat.com/archives/ovirt-devel/2008-October/msg00028.html
--- End FWN #146 --
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