October 2012 - olpc - Fedora Mailing-Lists

13.1.0 devel build 5 released, for the XO-1, XO-1.5, XO-1.75 and XO-4

by Peter Robinson

The "ball? What ball?" release. THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT RELEASE Latest sugar builds GNOME 3.6 Fixed bugs: #12082 Maliit on-screen keyboard #12088 Browse died on XO-1 with SIGILL in 13.1.0 Activity changes: -Abacus-37 -Browse-141 +Abacus-39 +Browse-142 -Clock-9 +Clock-10 -ImageViewer-21 +ImageViewer-51 -Paint-45 +Paint-46 -Pippy-49 +Pippy-50 -TamTamEdit-63 -TamTamJam-63 -TamTamMini-63 -TamTamSynthLab-63 +TamTamEdit-66 +TamTamJam-66 +TamTamMini-66 +TamTamSynthLab-66 http://build.laptop.org/13.1.0/os5/

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Re: [Techteam] 13.1.0 devel build 5 released, for the XO-1, XO-1.5, XO-1.75 and XO-4

by Peter Robinson

On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Chris Leonard <cjlhomeaddress(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Gary Martin <garycmartin(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > >>> Are the layouts each in a distinct set of files? If so we could possibly split out layouts to standalone packages to make it easy to add extras at a later date. >> >> Yes the language layouts are a distinct set of XML files in one directory. They can be edited live on running system, so it's not like they really need to be part of maliit-plugins build compilation. > > If the OLPC OS build creators (e.g. dsd) do not plan to include all of > these files in "stock" releases, then we should definitely look at > incorporating them into language packs installs. At the moment all layouts are packaged as part of the maliit-plugins package > Just like with L10n MO files there may be good reasons (mostly size in > image) not to include them all, but in a such a case we definitely > want to make them easy to find and easy to install, without much > technical knowledge, or even knowledge that they even exist. The layouts are xml files and hence very small is size so the easiest way to install them would be to have them there by default. My question to Gary about the layouts was more about how hard it would be to package them up separately so it's easy to add new layouts post release of a release. It's quicker to add a single package with a single layout than having to QA an entire release again. > With a little tweaking of the language pack generating script, > > http://git.sugarlabs.org/pootle-helpers/mainline/trees/master/langpackgen > > the language packs could serve that purpose. I'm sure there's a number of ways to skin that cat :-) Peter

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Re: [Techteam] 13.1.0 devel build 5 released, for the XO-1, XO-1.5, XO-1.75 and XO-4

by Peter Robinson

On 8 Oct 2012 00:41, "Gary Martin" <garycmartin(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > > On 7 Oct 2012, at 23:56, Peter Robinson <pbrobinson(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On 7 Oct 2012 23:17, "Martin Langhoff" <martin(a)laptop.org> wrote: > > > > > > On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Peter Robinson <pbrobinson(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > #12082 Maliit on-screen keyboard > > > > > > Yay!!! Is the evdev trickery all hooked up? Does ebook mode DTRT? > > > > Not yet, all the layouts are in and gtk2 works now > > Not quite all the layouts, but the vast majority are done in both landscape and portrait. I have Türkçe, Українська, Việt, and 1 usable (out of 3 due to the need of the others for a proprietary glyph composition engine) Chinese keyboards still to do, and some general bug fixes on several extended keys I spotted while testing. Expect an updated set of similar patches before build lockdown. There is also still the hanging question with regard for the need for additional keyboards for existing or potential deployments. Armenia has been raised as one possible extra, but not yet confirmed. Perhaps once XO-4's start to land and folks play with the OSK we'll see some formal requests. > Are the layouts each in a distinct set of files? If so we could possibly split out layouts to standalone packages to make it easy to add extras at a later date. Peter > Regards, > --Gary > > > > cheers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > m > > > -- > > > martin(a)laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC > > > - ask interesting questions > > > - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first > > > - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff > > _______________________________________________ > > olpc mailing list > > olpc(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/olpc >

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Re: [Techteam] 13.1.0 devel build 5 released, for the XO-1, XO-1.5, XO-1.75 and XO-4

by Paul Fox

martin wrote: > On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Peter Robinson <pbrobinson(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Not yet, all the layouts are in and gtk2 works now > > Installed, quick test. You're right, the ebook trigger isn't > happening. And I cannot type with it -- Write won't show input from > the OSK, home view search box won't show input from OSK. > > The touchscreen scale_{x,y} defaults are killing me. They make the UI > _very_ awkward to use -- I average 2.5 touches before I can hit a > moderately large button ("next", or the "stop" icon). This is because > the offset the driver applies shifts in every spot of the screen, it's > a devilish thing. > > Paul, can we crank those defaults way down? Or add a dampening / ramp > up effect to the offset that is flat in most of the screen, but > quickly ramps up near edges? (If you don't believe me, install OS5 and > use Sugar with the touchscreen for a while). as i said the other day, the kernel driver should either do no scaling by default, or it should make every pixel on the screen touchable with a "standard" pointing instrument (i.e., a stylus). the latter is what it does now -- perhaps exaggerated. but any other midway decision between those extremes (which i agree is probably the right thing) constitutes policy, and therefore belongs at user level. which is to say, i think the correct defaults belong in olpc-utils, along with the countless other XO useablility tweaks that are already there. (once that change is firmly in place, i'll probably revert the driver to default to no scaling at all.) paul > > thanks! > > > > m > -- > martin(a)laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC > - ask interesting questions > - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first > - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff =--------------------- paul fox, pgf(a)laptop.org

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Re: [Techteam] 13.1.0 devel build 5 released, for the XO-1, XO-1.5, XO-1.75 and XO-4

by Peter Robinson

On 7 Oct 2012 23:17, "Martin Langhoff" <martin(a)laptop.org> wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Peter Robinson <pbrobinson(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > #12082 Maliit on-screen keyboard > > Yay!!! Is the evdev trickery all hooked up? Does ebook mode DTRT? Not yet, all the layouts are in and gtk2 works now > cheers, > > > > > m > -- > martin(a)laptop.org -- Software Architect - OLPC > - ask interesting questions > - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first > - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff

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Multiple ARM support in 3.7?

by Bruno Wolff III

Will the mupltiple ARM support coming in 3.7, allow us to use Fedora arm kernels in XOs?

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