I was wondering if there are too many open fronts for the number of available people and none of them appears to close any time soon.
For the XO-1 there is the os8.2Bx series 8months now in development and testing, and the F11/0.84 for a comparable amount of time. In the mean time F11/0.88 is in development while F12+ builds are on the sidelines waiting for the i686 bug resolution to jump in. However, the 20month+ old F9/0.82, os802 build remains the official XO-1 build. Shouldn't it be some focus on os8.2Bx/F11-0.84 so they can be finalized, become official and put aside once and for all, instead of having them linger with the newer efforts and still show 802 as the official one? Is XO-1 software development going to proceed only through deployments (request)?
The XO-1.5 is still missing a production build (in my view) since the marquee Record.activity is still problematic and the openchrome driver still has problems with screen rotation among other things. However, it would appear the ARM/XO-1.75/3 is getting the limelight at the moment. It s always exciting to look to the future but shouldn't XO-1.5 get a production build at some point soon?
I do not really know what's going on behind the scenes, but looking at the mailing lists I have the feeling that we are looking at many individual little trees while there are big un-wooded areas in the forest.
Just 2c from a (n over?)worrying outsider.
El Wed, 09-06-2010 a las 02:59 -0700, Yioryos Asprobounitis escribió:
However, the 20month+ old F9/0.82, os802 build remains the official XO-1 build.
It's just a formality, nobody has been doing any work on it for years.
Shouldn't it be some focus on os8.2Bx/F11-0.84 so they can be finalized, become official and put aside once and for all, instead of having them linger with the newer efforts and still show 802 as the official one?
+1 on finalizing a generic F11-0.84 image. Calling it "official" makes little sense, as deployments can autonomously decide what goes on their laptops. Thou an official label could help convince the most hesitant ones to go ahead.
Is XO-1 software development going to proceed only through deployments (request)?
So it seems, but anyone in the community is welcome to join in and help out. As far as I'm concerned, F11-0.84 went into production one month ago so we're not planning any new releases. Stephen Parrish is working on a more generic build with a broader set of languages and other improvements.
Now we're working full steam to roll out F11-0.88 by the end of August:
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Deployment_Team/Sugar-0.88_Notes
BTW, I'm planning to release a new test build tomorrow or Thursday.
The XO-1.5 is still missing a production build (in my view) since the marquee Record.activity is still problematic
Anish Mangal is working on improving Record.
and the openchrome driver still has problems with screen rotation among other things. However, it would appear the ARM/XO-1.75/3 is getting the limelight at the moment. It s always exciting to look to the future but shouldn't XO-1.5 get a production build at some point soon?
We can stick the "production ready" label on today's build or wait until all known bugs are fixed. Regardless, deployments are going to put into production whatever build happens to be available at the moment they need to distribute the laptops. Does anyone know how many XO-1.5 are already in the hands of children?
I do not really know what's going on behind the scenes, but looking at the mailing lists I have the feeling that we are looking at many individual little trees while there are big un-wooded areas in the forest.
Indeed, but the ability to work in parallel is not necessarily a bad thing, as long as there's a good amount of cross-pollination. It's a sign that more parties are getting involved in the OS development process, which is good.
Last year the situation looked more consistent only because there wasn't nearly as much activity.
Just 2c from a (n over?)worrying outsider.
I think it's important to have reflections on our process from time to time.
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Bernie Innocenti bernie@codewiz.org wrote:
El Wed, 09-06-2010 a las 02:59 -0700, Yioryos Asprobounitis escribió:
However, the 20month+ old F9/0.82, os802 build remains the official XO-1 build.
It's just a formality, nobody has been doing any work on it for years.
To clarify: I am working on it. and it mainly helps deployments that are implementing security. It is taking ages because, well, I am doing the work of 5 people.
I share Yiorios' concerns. Both OLPC and SL are overreaching wildly.
We have to focus on polish, on getting something useful in the hands of children. On making a difference there. We cannot leave XO-1.5 unfinished. We have to hear the SoaS crowd when they point out that very few activities are shippable.
cheers,
m
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