F11-for-XO1.5 Release 10.1.1 Release Candidate 2

[Chris Ball]

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/F11_for_1.5
http://build.laptop.org/10.1.1/os203

Compressed image size: 705.34mb (+13.94mb since build 202)

This build is the second RC for the 10.1.1 release; if no new blockers
appear, it will become the final release after a period of testing.

Some bugs that we'd like particular help testing:

* http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10045 :
  - Fix loss of audio/video sync in Record activity.  Some instances of
    sync loss may remain, especially if you're running other activities
    at the same time as Record; we'd like to hear your feedback.

* http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10168 :
  - Fix "Scratch can freeze up after playing sound".  See reproduction
    instructions in the ticket.

Thanks!

Package changes since build 202:

+SDL_Pango-0.1.2-10.i586
-bootfw-q3a38-1.unsigned.i386
+bootfw-q3a39-1.unsigned.i386
-dracut-modules-olpc-0.3.2-1.fc11.i586
+dracut-modules-olpc-0.3.4-1.fc11.i586
-exim-4.69-10.fc11.i586
-kernel-2.6.31_xo1.5-20100430.1441.1.olpc.6a2d568.i586
+kernel-2.6.31_xo1.5-20100607.1740.1.olpc.ead3d3e.i586
-kernel-firmware-2.6.31_xo1.5-20100430.1441.1.olpc.6a2d568.i586
+kernel-firmware-2.6.31_xo1.5-20100607.1740.1.olpc.ead3d3e.i586
-olpc-powerd-21-1.fc11.i586
+olpc-powerd-23-1.fc11.i586
-olpc-runin-tests-0.9.18-1.noarch
+olpc-runin-tests-0.9.20-1.noarch
-olpc-utils-1.0.22-1.fc11.i586
+olpc-utils-1.0.22-2.fc11.i586
+ssmtp-2.61-11.9.fc11.i586
-sugar-0.84.15-1.fc11.i586
+sugar-0.84.16-1.fc11.i586
-sugar-artwork-0.84.1-3.fc11.i586
+sugar-artwork-0.84.2-1.fc11.i586
-sugar-base-0.84.1-1.fc11.i586
+sugar-base-0.84.2-1.fc11.i586
-sugar-presence-service-0.84.0-2.fc11.noarch
+sugar-presence-service-0.84.1-1.fc11.noarch
+sugar-toolkit-0.84.10-1.fc11.i586
-sugar-toolkit-0.84.9-2.fc11.i586
+tcl-8.5.6-6.fc11.i586
+usb_modeswitch-1.1.2-3.fc11.i586
+usb_modeswitch-data-20100418-2.fc11.noarch

[Yioryos Asprobounitis]

--- On Sat, 6/12/10, Chris Ball  wrote:
> From: Chris Ball 
> Subject: F11-for-XO1.5 Release 10.1.1 Release Candidate 2
> To: "Fedora OLPC" 
> Cc: [e-mail], "Devel" 
> Date: Saturday, June 12, 2010, 12:46 AM
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/F11_for_1.5
> http://build.laptop.org/10.1.1/os203
>
> Compressed image size: 705.34mb (+13.94mb since build 202)
>
> This build is the second RC for the 10.1.1 release; if no
> new blockers
> appear, it will become the final release after a period of
> testing.
>
> Some bugs that we'd like particular help testing:
> http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10045 :
>
> - Fix loss of audio/video sync in Record
> activity.  Some instances of
>     sync loss may remain, especially if you're
> running other activities
>     at the same time as Record; we'd like to hear
> your feedback.
> http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10168 :
>
> - Fix "Scratch can freeze up after playing
> sound".  See reproduction
>     instructions in the ticket.
>
> Thanks!

Wow 2 builds in a day! You must be working late ;-> 
At this stage the only difference between os203 and os126 looks like some newer f11 packages, correct?

They both work fine (clean installed one and olpc-update the other) and Record-81 is a BIG improvement.

Syncing is almost perfect (in my finger snap test :) up to a minute that I tested, operation is snappy, while image display while recording is pretty smooth.

However, besides the annoying 5sec silent audio added in the beginning of audio recordings that Mikus described and persists, there is still an old nasty one with data-loss potential. 
In short trying to record a clip after you recored, played and deleted one, quits the application.
Filed here http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2041

Other activities worked fine (even Measure 29)

Sharing with an XO-1/os15 through an AP was smooth and snappy, initiating activities either from the XO-1.5 or the XO-1.

[Chris Ball]

Hi,
> Wow 2 builds in a day! You must be working late ;-> 
> At this stage the only difference between os203 and os126 looks
> like some newer f11 packages, correct?

Yes, that's exactly right.  I didn't take the newer F11 updates into
the stable branch.
> http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/2041

Interesting, thanks.  Could you run "olpc-log" and attach the
generated tarball to the bug?  (I'm particularly interested in
dmesg output.)

- Chris.

[Bert Freudenberg]

On 12.06.2010, at 06:46, Chris Ball wrote:
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/F11_for_1.5
> http://build.laptop.org/10.1.1/os203
>
> Compressed image size: 705.34mb (+13.94mb since build 202)
>
> This build is the second RC for the 10.1.1 release; if no new blockers
> appear, it will become the final release after a period of testing.
>
> Some bugs that we'd like particular help testing:
> http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10045 :
> Fix loss of audio/video sync in Record activity.  Some instances of
> sync loss may remain, especially if you're running other activities
> at the same time as Record; we'd like to hear your feedback.
> http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10168 :
> Fix "Scratch can freeze up after playing sound".  See reproduction
> instructions in the ticket.

Installed on my 1.5 after updating the firmware to q3a39.

Typing "boot" in OFW right after "fs-update" froze the machine.

Powered off (long-press on power button) and booted. Let it sit idle for a while in the first-time Sugar screen (name dialog) -> machine froze.

Powered off again, booted. Entered name right away, works.

Tried sound playback in Scratch, it's choppy, many clicks to hear. Suspended fine, resumed playing sound. Recording does not freeze the activity, but has bad quality.

Tried sound playback in Etoys, works fine, no clicks. Suspending with sound playing freezes the activity. Recording still freezes it too. (Both is unsurprising, fix not deployed yet)

Copied ~olpc/Activities/Sratch.activity/vm-sound-ALSA plugin to /usr/lib/squeak/3.10-5/.

After that, in Etoys playback sounds a bit worse, but it's still okay (hard to tell actually). And no freeze after suspend, playing just resumes. So it would be a good idea to use that ALSA plugin for Squeak in general, me thinks.

However, after letting the machine sit idle for a while (even just after booting, still in the Sugar home screen), the whole machine froze. Power LED was still on. Had to power-cycle. Does not happen all the time, but twice already. Maybe it's my machine (one of the first C-test ones)?

- Bert -

[Testing] F11-for-XO1.5 Release 10.1.1 Release Candidate 2

[James Cameron]

On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 05:32:12PM +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
> Installed on my 1.5 after updating the firmware to q3a39.
> Typing "boot" in OFW right after "fs-update" froze the machine.

Unpredictable behaviour is known to occur if you try to "boot" after
fs-update, you should use "bye".
> Powered off (long-press on power button) and booted. Let it sit idle
> for a while in the first-time Sugar screen (name dialog) -> machine
> froze.

It should idle suspend.  It should not freeze.
> However, after letting the machine sit idle for a while (even just
> after booting, still in the Sugar home screen), the whole machine
> froze. Power LED was still on. Had to power-cycle. Does not happen all
> the time, but twice already. Maybe it's my machine (one of the first
> C-test ones)?

Sounds bad.  Do you have a serial port attached?  I ask because I
suspect a kernel panic and a serial port is a practical way to obtain
more problem data.

Might also be worth running memtest from OFW as well, just to exclude
certain other causes.

[Chris Ball]

Hi Bert,
> Copied ~olpc/Activities/Sratch.activity/vm-sound-ALSA plugin to
> /usr/lib/squeak/3.10-5/.
>
> After that, in Etoys playback sounds a bit worse, but it's still
> okay (hard to tell actually). And no freeze after suspend,
> playing just resumes. So it would be a good idea to use that ALSA
> plugin for Squeak in general, me thinks.

Could we get a squeak/etoys package with a fixed alsa-plugin ASAP, please?
> Had to power-cycle. Does not happen all the time, but twice
> already. Maybe it's my machine (one of the first C-test ones)?

Yes, does sound a bit like hardware.

Thanks,

- Chris.

[Bert Freudenberg]

On 14.06.2010, at 06:24, Chris Ball wrote:
> Hi Bert,
> > Copied ~olpc/Activities/Sratch.activity/vm-sound-ALSA plugin to
> > /usr/lib/squeak/3.10-5/.
> >
> > After that, in Etoys playback sounds a bit worse, but it's still
> > okay (hard to tell actually). And no freeze after suspend,
> > playing just resumes. So it would be a good idea to use that ALSA
> > plugin for Squeak in general, me thinks.
>
> Could we get a squeak/etoys package with a fixed alsa-plugin ASAP, please?

Someone would need to rebuild Fedora's squeak-vm-3.10-5 package with Derek's patched sqUnixSoundALSA.c file (attached to the forwarded msg below). The etoys package is unaffected.

Unless you can/want to use his binary, that is.
> Yes, does sound a bit like hardware.

Can I get a replacement? Preferably the HS version once it's ready? ;)

- Bert -

Begin forwarded message:
> From: Derek O'Connell 
> Date: 9. Juni 2010 21:33:39 MESZ
> To: Chris Ball 
> Cc: John Maloney , Bert Freudenberg , Paul Fox 
> Subject: Re: alsa fix4
>
> fix5 attached.
>
> On 09/06/10 18:48, Chris Ball wrote:
> > Hi John,
> > > Hi, Chris.  I can build a new Scratch XO release. But first a few
> > >  questions:
> > >
> > > a. Shouldn't this fixed ALSA go into the Etoys release, where
> > >  it can be shared by both Scratch and Etoys?
> >
> > Ah, sounds like it.
> > > b. If I just put the new ALSA plugin file in the Scratch
> > >  activity, are we sure it will get loaded? (i.e. does it override
> > >  the version in the Squeak VM folder)?
> > >
> > > c. I confess, got busy with other things, so I haven't tested
> > >  this. I know Derek has. Anyone else?
> >
> > Dunno about these.  We can certainly help test a new build.
> > > d. Should I remove Bert's shell script code that suppresses power
> > >  management?
> >
> > Yes, please.
> > > e. What's your time frame?
> >
> > We were hoping to release on Friday, but we can afford to delay until
> > this fix is ready.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Chris.

[Peter Robinson]

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Bert Freudenberg  wrote:
> On 14.06.2010, at 06:24, Chris Ball wrote:
> > Hi Bert,
> > > Copied ~olpc/Activities/Sratch.activity/vm-sound-ALSA plugin to
> > > /usr/lib/squeak/3.10-5/.
> > >
> > > After that, in Etoys playback sounds a bit worse, but it's still
> > > okay (hard to tell actually). And no freeze after suspend,
> > > playing just resumes. So it would be a good idea to use that ALSA
> > > plugin for Squeak in general, me thinks.
> >
> > Could we get a squeak/etoys package with a fixed alsa-plugin ASAP, please?
>
> Someone would need to rebuild Fedora's squeak-vm-3.10-5 package with Derek's patched sqUnixSoundALSA.c file (attached to the forwarded msg below). The etoys package is unaffected.

I'm happy to apply a patch to the etoys package in Fedora if someone
can provide me a patch rather than a complete new source file.

Peter

[James Cameron]

On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 12:46:05AM -0400, Chris Ball wrote:
> This build is the second RC for the 10.1.1 release; if no new blockers
> appear, it will become the final release after a period of testing.

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Release_notes/10.1.1 has been drafted,
Further edits are welcome.  In particular:

0.  are there any interesting new features or notable bugs that should
be listed?  (e.g. does my sense of interest and notability match yours?)

1.  is the installation process correct in other circumstances?  (it
works for me, requires less keyboard use on the XO-1.5, and has less
risk of bad experience caused by issuing commands after fs-update),

2.  will the build be on download.laptop.org or build.laptop.org?
(presuming the latter for the time being),

3.  are there any pictures available of holding down all four game keys?

4.  has anyone recently tested olpc-update from os64 to os20x?