(fwd) Re: powerd on XO-1 (was Re: New release ... OS13 )

[Paul Fox]

when i reply to my own posts, my mailer screws up.  resending
with proper headers...

(only new info:  i've filed #10090)

paul

i wrote:
>  Date:    Sat, 27 Mar 2010 12:44:40 EDT
>  cc:      OLPC Devel <devel(a)lists.laptop.org&gt;,
>  	 fedora-olpc-list <fedora-olpc-list(a)redhat.com&gt;
>  From:    Paul Fox <pgf(a)laptop.org&gt;
>  Subject: Re: powerd on XO-1 (was Re: New release ... OS13 ) 
>  
>  i wrote:
>   > mathieu wrote:
>   >  > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 16:42, Paul Fox <pgf(a)laptop.org&gt; wrote:
>   >  > > steven m. parrish wrote:
>   >  > > ��> OS13 is now available for testing.
>   >  > 
>   >  > I just tried it and am encountering a very annoying issue: if I don't
>   >  > do anything, the screen dims, and everything just freezes this way.
>   >  > Screen remains dim, keyboard and mouse don't respond.
>   >  > 
>   >  > Is this a known issue? Any idea how I could help debugging it?
>   > 
>   > can you recover at all?   if so, a copy of the output of dmesg
>   > would probably be helpful.  probably most helpful if it were
>   > attached to a trac ticket.  i don't know how f11-on-xo1 tickets
>   > are being filed, though.
>   > 
>   > oh.  wait.  i just went and fetch my os13 machine, and sure enough --
>   > it's completely locked up.  :-/  it wasn't, earlier.
>  
>  i don't know that it's the same lockup, but i've just filed #10090,
>  with full dmesg log.  (captured via serial)
>  
>  paul
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[Yioryos Asprobounitis]

I guess the question is: is os13 usable at this stage?
Should power management be be inactivated in the control panel?
Are there appropriate/recommended powerd.conf settings for the XO-1 at this stage?

--- On Sat, 3/27/10, Paul Fox <pgf(a)laptop.org&gt; wrote:

>  From: Paul Fox <pgf(a)laptop.org&gt;
>  Subject: (fwd) Re: powerd on XO-1 (was Re: New release ... OS13 )
>  To: "OLPC Devel" <devel(a)lists.laptop.org&gt;, "fedora-olpc-list"
> <fedora-olpc-list(a)redhat.com&gt;
>  Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 12:50 PM
>  when i reply to my own posts, my
>  mailer screws up.  resending
>  with proper headers...
>  
>  (only new info:  i've filed #10090)
>  
>  paul
>  
>  i wrote:
>   > Date:    Sat, 27 Mar 2010 12:44:40 EDT
>   > cc:      OLPC Devel <devel(a)lists.laptop.org&gt;,
>   >      fedora-olpc-list <fedora-olpc-list(a)redhat.com&gt;
>   > From:    Paul Fox <pgf(a)laptop.org&gt;
>   > Subject: Re: powerd on XO-1 (was Re: New release ...
>  OS13 ) 
>   > 
>   > i wrote:
>   >  > mathieu wrote:
>   >  >  > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 16:42,
>  Paul Fox <pgf(a)laptop.org&gt;
>  wrote:
>   >  >  > > steven m. parrish wrote:
>   >  >  > >  > OS13 is now
>  available for testing.
>   >  >  > 
>   >  >  > I just tried it and am
>  encountering a very annoying issue: if I don't
>   >  >  > do anything, the screen dims,
>  and everything just freezes this way.
>   >  >  > Screen remains dim, keyboard
>  and mouse don't respond.
>   >  >  > 
>   >  >  > Is this a known issue? Any idea
>  how I could help debugging it?
>   >  > 
>   >  > can you recover at
>  all?   if so, a copy of the output of dmesg
>   >  > would probably be helpful.  probably
>  most helpful if it were
>   >  > attached to a trac ticket.  i don't
>  know how f11-on-xo1 tickets
>   >  > are being filed, though.
>   >  > 
>   >  > oh.  wait.  i just went and
>  fetch my os13 machine, and sure enough --
>   >  > it's completely locked up.  :-/ 
>  it wasn't, earlier.
>   > 
>   > i don't know that it's the same lockup, but i've just
>  filed #10090,
>   > with full dmesg log.  (captured via serial)
>   > 
>   > paul
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[Paul Fox]

yioryos wrote:
>  I guess the question is: is os13 usable at this stage?
>  Should power management be be inactivated in the control panel?
>  Are there appropriate/recommended powerd.conf settings for the XO-1 at this 
>  stage? 
maybe, i don't know, and i don't know.

paul
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[Yioryos Asprobounitis]

So SLEEP basically drops connections and then the XO-1 fails to DIM or BLANK. Setting
SLEEP time _after_ DIM and BLANK has the expected behavior. 
In all cases the XO fails to reconnect to the preferred network after wakeup from SLEEP.
I settled in DIM=180, BLANK=480, SLEEP=600. No huge power savings but at least the build
is usable.
  

--- On Sat, 3/27/10, Paul Fox <pgf(a)laptop.org&gt; wrote:

>  From: Paul Fox <pgf(a)laptop.org&gt;
>  Subject: Re: (fwd) Re: powerd on XO-1 (was Re: New release ... OS13 )
>  To: "Yioryos Asprobounitis" <mavrothal(a)yahoo.com&gt;
>  Cc: "OLPC Devel" <devel(a)lists.laptop.org&gt;, "fedora-olpc-list"
> <fedora-olpc-list(a)redhat.com&gt;
>  Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 1:26 PM
>  yioryos wrote:
>   > I guess the question is: is os13 usable at this
>  stage?
>   > Should power management be be inactivated in the
>  control panel?
>   > Are there appropriate/recommended powerd.conf
>  settings for the XO-1 at this 
>   > stage?
>  
>  maybe, i don't know, and i don't know.
>  
>  paul
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>   paul fox, pgf(a)laptop.org
>

[Paul Fox]

yioryos wrote:
>  So SLEEP basically drops connections and then the XO-1 fails
>  to DIM or BLANK.  Setting SLEEP time _after_ DIM and BLANK has 
sounds like something's going wrong for you that isn't going wrong
for me:  dim and blank happen correctly after sleep for me.

>  the expected behavior.  In all cases the XO fails to reconnect
>  to the preferred network after wakeup from SLEEP.  I settled 
i haven't tested networking robustness on os13, so can't speak to
this.

please file tickets for the problems you're seeing, and attach
dmesg output, as well as powerd.trace.  (enable powerd tracing
with "sudo powerd-config =trace-on".)

paul


>  in DIM=180, BLANK=480, SLEEP=600.  No huge power savings but
>  at least the build is usable.
>    
>  
>  --- On Sat, 3/27/10, Paul Fox <pgf(a)laptop.org&gt; wrote:
>  
>  > From: Paul Fox <pgf(a)laptop.org&gt;
>  > Subject: Re: (fwd) Re: powerd on XO-1 (was Re: New release ... OS13 )
>  > To: "Yioryos Asprobounitis" <mavrothal(a)yahoo.com&gt;
>  > Cc: "OLPC Devel" <devel(a)lists.laptop.org&gt;,
> "fedora-olpc-list" 
>  <fedora-olpc-list(a)redhat.com&gt;
>  > Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 1:26 PM
>  > yioryos wrote:
>  >  > I guess the question is: is os13 usable at this
>  > stage?
>  >  > Should power management be be inactivated in the
>  > control panel?
>  >  > Are there appropriate/recommended powerd.conf
>  > settings for the XO-1 at this 
>  >  > stage?
>  > 
>  > maybe, i don't know, and i don't know.
>  > 
>  > paul
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>  >  paul fox, pgf(a)laptop.org
>  > 
>  
>  
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