Fwd: [Ambassadors] Measuring success. (Reigniting the steering committee?)
by Cesar Pinto
Hi Outreach!
I was recommended to write to this list to suggest a monthly meeting to
discuss strategic initiatives. Please see below my comm. from the
Ambassadors list.
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Hi Joerg,
I am thinking more along the lines of cross departmental initiatives
(marketing + ambassadors) and exploring what more could be done.
I hope none of this comes across like I´m invalidating existing efforts and
I´m suggesting we should be micromanaging --- not the intent at all... i´m
speaking from a place of blissful ignorance :-)
What I am certain of: There is enough brain-power and enthusiasm within the
project to come up with even smarter joint activities which may have a
measurable impact. (and maybe don´t even have to cost us any money!)
Just adapting behaviour, directing focus and keeping an eye in the bigger
picture. (and understanding what that picture actually is)
For example: What if we everyone in the project agreed on doing a monthly
thunderclap?
https://www.thunderclap.it/
What if all ambassadors signed up and once a month all our combined twitter
accounts sent out a single message?
What if we agreed on a provocative / catchy / simple topic, and drive
traffic within a specific demographic? ("Which Fedora are you? Take the
Survey ___Link___")
What if we made it action oriented and time-bound?
Maybe we cannot measure downloads and OK, maybe smolt did die a painful
death ... But we CAN measure retweets and google keywords :-)
http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=Fedora%2021%2C%20Fedora%20Linux%2C...
And if we do this consistently and in a regular basis, maybe we will start
to see trends. (And maybe those trends will begin to shape the project in
new and unexpected ways....)
But I agree, we should just open the dialogue and see if anyone is
interested.
https://plus.google.com/events/c7ni6kkd5h07848r63oseokap54
I will also raise this initiative in my regular EMEA Ambassadors meeting
next week.
CP
On 26 February 2015 at 16:51, Joerg Simon <jsimon(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> On 25.02.2015 09:12, Cesar Pinto wrote:
> > Maybe this has been raised before but I would like to raise the question
> > of overall goals, metrics and accountability in relation to the success
> > of this Fedora project.
> > Perhaps we could open the discussion around overall strategy for the
> > project in regards to adoption (what we want to achieve? by when? how?),
>
> I see this as a clear topic for the outreach list, maybe they work on
> this topic already - or abandoned it already ;)
> maybe you should join their discussion
> (https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/outreach/)
>
> What works for code, commits and infrastructure changes, does imho not
> always work for the work that the Ambassadors are doing - a lot of it
> can not be just measured. We tried in the past - to measure events,
> invests, new contributors to all our groups - and i think it was helping
> future planning (a bit) but it was not worth the effort if i look at the
> time invested and we never will measure the catalytic influence we had
> with our activities, presence
>
> > Run it like a business meeting?
>
> i suggest to join the Ambassadors Meeting (maybe you already joined
> some) and also the planning Activity days to learn how we do it at the
> moment then make suggestion for improvements.
>
> > Also there must be a way to measure success. Are we tracking regional
> > downloads to know if our efforts as ambassadors are having a measurable
> > impact?
>
> for ambassadors there are measures in place how money is spend,
> event-reporting is done, group-development etc. i think we found a good
> middle-way in the last years. The stats, measures for other groups than
> Ambassadors, should to be discussed in these groups or at counsil level.
>
> regarding users - smolt is dead and the download stats are imho not
> accurate enough to draw the conclusions that you want
>
> Ambassadors can measure new contributors that they mentored and teached
> to join the Fedora Project - and as long as they can achieve their
> personal goals with contribution i think this is quality measurement
> enough.
>
>
> > But (myself at least) I see events as only a tactical
> > activity,
>
> maybe it will change your view if you join/represent Fedora on FOSS
> Events - there is much more than just tactical activities
>
>
> > what about PR work? technology partnerships? (docker) academic
> > adoption? (charitable ICT work?) training programs? (free course on
> linux?)
>
> Ambassadors already support/did/do all this ;)
>
> > And maybe could we suggest 1 monthly (biweekly at most) meeting via
> > video call in addition to the IRC meetings. Maybe an idea to make things
> > more engaging for new ambassadors?
>
> organize it and look who joins ;)
>
> and please do not get me wrong - i also suggest to look through the
> Ambassadors archives to learn where we failed and some history so we do
> not the same again and again.
>
> Thanks for your input!
>
> cu Joerg
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9 years, 1 month
Get the developers back on Fedora!
by Sudhir
Hi All,
I was doing some comparison of Linux distro usage and I found below,
though the comparison is for websites, it might not be very surprising
to see the same trend across technologies other than websites.
http://w3techs.com/technologies/comparison/os-fedora,os-ubuntu,os-debian
There is huge difference in terms of % usage between Fedora and Debian.
If we remove the free/non-free software availability and Gnome 3
argument, is there anything that they are doing more as a community that
we lack? which in-turn leading developers to choose Debian/Ubuntu as
their default working environment? While we are looking at coming up
with goals for Fedora, it might be a good revisit to focus on getting
the developers back on Fedora as their default developing environment.
Just a thought.
Regards,
Sudhir
9 years, 2 months
