[Bug 525764] New: Package Review: rftg - Race for the Galaxy card game

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Summary: Package Review: rftg - Race for the Galaxy card game

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Summary: Package Review: rftg - Race for the Galaxy card game
           Product: Fedora
           Version: rawhide
          Platform: All
        OS/Version: Linux
            Status: NEW
          Severity: medium
          Priority: medium
         Component: Package Review
        AssignedTo: [e-mail]
        ReportedBy: [e-mail]
         QAContact: [e-mail]
                CC: [e-mail], [e-mail]
   Estimated Hours: 0.0
    Classification: Fedora

Spec URL: <spec info here>
SRPM URL: <srpm info here>
Description: <description here>

SPEC: http://rdieter.fedorapeople.org/rpms/rftg/rftg.spec
SRPM: http://rdieter.fedorapeople.org/rpms/rftg/rftg-0.5.4-1.fc11.src.rpm
Description:
This is a project to create artificial intelligence opponent(s) for the
card game Race for the Galaxy. Currently, the base game and both released
expansions are supported.

Code is GPLv2+, but the artwork is (only) redistributable

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--- Comment #1 from Rex Dieter   2009-09-25 12:23:01 EDT ---
Blocking FE-Legal for verification

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--- Comment #2 from Rahul Sundaram   2009-09-25 14:50:00 EDT ---
APPROVED

The only comment I have to add is to consider removing the buildroot definition
and removal of it in the install section unless to reduce spec clutter unless
you are branching for EPEL as well.

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--- Comment #3 from Rahul Sundaram   2009-09-25 15:12:50 EDT ---
One more thing. It doesn't show up in the games menu for me in Rawhide.

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--- Comment #4 from Rex Dieter   2009-09-25 15:18:49 EDT ---
confirmed, I'll fix that before releasing any updates here

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--- Comment #5 from Rex Dieter   2009-09-25 15:22:02 EDT ---
found it (missing Exec= key in .desktop file).

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--- Comment #6 from Rex Dieter   2009-09-25 15:25:37 EDT ---
New Package CVS Request
=======================
Package Name: rftg
Short Description: Race for the Galaxy card game
Owners: rdieter
Branches: EL-5 F-10 F-11
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--- Comment #7 from Kevin Fenzi   2009-09-25 22:44:22 EDT ---
Can we get the go-head from FE_LEGAL before doing cvs here?

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--- Comment #8 from Rex Dieter   2009-09-27 21:24:56 EDT ---
As often is the case when IANAL, I believe I firmly placed my foot in my mouth
here, and based on precedent of other similar games in fedora, I'm dropping
FE-LEGAL blocker.

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--- Comment #9 from Jason Tibbitts   2009-09-29 07:39:32 EDT ---
Well, one important question to ask is whether we actually have redistribution
rights for the artwork.  As far as I know, upstream has redistribution rights,
but that doesn't mean that they can transfer those rights to us.

Unfortunately the original spec link is 404, so I can't find upstream or the
source to verify.

Given the history behind various online RFTG instances, with Rio Grande
alternately requesting that they not happen and then allowing some, I think
it's prudent to at least have someone who understands this kind of thing take a
quick look over it.  But I'm not a lawyer, either.

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--- Comment #10 from Rex Dieter   2009-09-29 08:49:24 EDT ---
Good point, re-adding FE-LEGAL, and I'll contact the author in the meantime for
clarification on redistribution rights.

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--- Comment #11 from Rex Dieter   2009-09-29 12:33:15 EDT ---
Restored, files to
http://rdieter.fedorapeople.org/rpms/rftg

In the meantime, here's what the README says:

LEGAL

The source code is my own creation and is placed under the GPL.  For
details, see the file COPYING.

The original game of Race for the Galaxy was designed by Tom Lehmann and
published by Rio Grande Games.  Permission to distribute the card and
goal images has been granted by Rio Grande Games.

Which to my mortal non-lawyer eyes implies rights to distribute the artwork.

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--- Comment #12 from Jason Tibbitts   2009-09-29 14:00:03 EDT ---
What about selling the artwork?  What about using it in conjunction with other
programs?  I don't think it's proper to assume that we have those rights, yet
if we don't then the artwork isn't acceptable for Fedora.  All it seems that we
know is that the author of the code has the rights to distribute the artwork in
conjunction with his program.

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--- Comment #13 from Rex Dieter   2009-09-29 14:10:46 EDT ---
Rahul expressed his opinion that distributable, but unmodifiable content in
games in fedora had precedent and was acceptable.

In the meantime, I'll contact the author for clarification/specifics on the
licensing terms wrt artwork.

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--- Comment #14 from Jason Tibbitts   2009-09-29 14:18:33 EDT ---
I do not disagree with Rahul's opinion; my questions do not relate to
modification.

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--- Comment #15 from Rex Dieter   2009-09-29 14:35:45 EDT ---
OK, if it matters then, http://www.keldon.net/rftg/ says,
Rio Grande Games is the publisher and holds all the copyrights for the images
and card names. They have graciously given permission for me to distribute
these, though they may not be used for any other purpose.

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--- Comment #16 from Rex Dieter   2009-09-30 08:38:37 EDT ---
It's as we feared, 
"I'm afraid that, as I understand my agreement with Rio Grande, only I
can legally distribute the card and other images included with the
game (though other people could pursue similar agreements, and have).
In addition, my permission expires when/if a commercial "official"
computer version of the game is released.  Supposedly such a thing is in
the works, though I have my doubts as to whether it will be completed.
I think that distributing RFTG as a Fedora (or Debian or other distro)
package is not advisable."

There you have it.  My bad, I should've double-checked with the author first,
sorry for the time-waster folks.