On 05/23/2012 11:42 PM, Brendan Jones wrote:
On 05/23/2012 04:44 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Wed, 23 May 2012 14:59:34 +0200, BJ (Brendan) wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I've been getting some conflicting advice as to what to do about moving
>> a patent unencumbered version of package that has existed in RPMFusion
>> for some time.
>>
>> The package is qtractor (a digital audio workstation/ sequencer),
>> software we'd like to showcase as part of Fedora 18's Audio Spin.
>> Removing libmad (MP3) library deps was simple enough via a compile time
>> flag and a Review request was raised [1]. Using
>> audacity/audacity-freeworld as a precedent it was suggested that we
>> rename qtractor in RPMfusion to qtractor-freeworld and have it Conflict:
>> with Fedora's qtractor.
>
> That's the way to go, IMO, provided that RPM Fusion don't disagree
> and start a we've-been-first-to-package-qtractor game. I would hope that
> they would be happy to rename to -freeworld.
Unfortunately quite the opposite, there's a fair bit of resistance - the
package has passed review and I've since unpushed an update while we
work this out.
By the same token I can understand where they're coming from - when (or
if - I'm still not convinced) the bug reports come in they will have to
deal with it in the first instance. The maintainer in rpmfusion has
indicated he was looking to give it up, so I'll fire this scenario (with
me maintaining in both repos back at them).
>
>> The problem here is that RPMFusion users may have their libmad version
>> silently replaced by the one in Fedora during the transition.
>
> True. There would be a window of N weeks during which qtractor-freeworld
> could "Obsoletes: qtractor< 0.5.3-3", and afterwards, Fedora's
qtractor
> would be published.
>
>> One solution here is to leave qtractor as it is in RPMfusion and rename
>> the one in Fedora to something else (qtractor-free?) and perhaps use
>> alternatives to permit coexistence, removing the need for conflicts
>>
>> Is this reasonable?
>
> Not so good wrt the package naming guidelines. Also, a "yum install
> qtractor"
> with plain Fedora would still not work. Sure, one can "yum search
> qtractor",
> but it would be odd to not use the upstream name as other dists do it
> (independent of whether a 3rd party has packaged it first).
>
OK, I think I have a solution. We'll stick to the name qtractor in
Fedora, do the rename in RPMFusion but implement alternatives there.
To cater for existing RPMFusion users, I can be clear in the changelog /
update notes that this Fedora package is replacing the one in qtractor
and they should install qtractor-freeworld if MP3 support is desired.
Sound OK?