2010/10/31 Toshio Kuratomi <a.badger(a)gmail.com>:
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 12:01:25AM +0100, Jeroen van Meeuwen wrote:
> Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
Possible how: Allow apps to bundle libraries period.
Possible why: Because users are going to run the apps anyway and if they
come from Fedora, at least we can be providing updates to the broken
versions as the fixes become available instead of relying on the user to
seek them out.
Possible how: Apps are allowed to bundle libraries as long as the maintainer
commits to keeping the app ported to the newest version of the bundled
library within Fedora at all times.
Possible why: Security fixes and bugfixes to the library are going to be
pushed to the latest versions of packages in Fedora. We need to make sure
that the libraries are kept in sync so that we can consume those fixes
quickly if a problem arises. We need to make sure that there is someone
able to make fixes (the maintainer) in case a problem arises.
Possible how: Apps that bundle libraries must get a commitment from FES that
FES will maintain code in the apps should it be needed. The commitment must
be made for every release that Fedora is released for.
Possible why: FES is available to do coding work on the distribution.
If they sign up for maintaining a package's code, the maintainer does not
need to know how to program (only package). FES, being a group, allows
greater flexibility for fixing issues quickly should a security issue need
a quick turn-around.
Please add more suggestions -- I'm not really satisfied with any of these
so there's definitely room for improvement here.
The creation of the "crap" repository. This area runs under less
restrictive packaging guidelines in order to allow for future
inclusion with the mainline. Things that would NOT be allowed in it:
1) Software that violates our Freedom clause (eg nonfree is a no-no).
2) Software that violates legal restrictions (patents, trademarks, and
Software in this repository would be allowed to bundle libraries, but
would follow packaging guidelines. Due to the fact the software may
need regular updates to remain stable it would be allowed updates
during a release. It would not be QA'd beyond changes to the spec file
would need to be reviewed (like old fedora.us ways). It would not
override software in Fedora (thus it is either in the release or its
in "Crap" but not both).
Other repository names could be "feces", "fewmets", cow pies,
road apples, fertilizer, guano, manure, meadow muffin, night soil,
Stephen J Smoogen.
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