Packing guidelines around /usr/games

[Link Dupont]

I'm packaging a game that uses scons as its build system. The default
SConstruct file puts the game binary in /usr/games/%{name}, and the
data files under /usr/share/games/%{name}. I searched the wiki for
usage guidelines around /usr/games, but couldn't find any results that
tell me whether /usr/games and /usr/share/games are recommended paths
for Fedora.

Are /usr/games and /usr/share/games the correct place for games to
install their binary and data, or should I patch the SConstruct file to
install into /usr/bin and /usr/share/%{name}?

~link

[Antonio Trande]

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On 01/10/2016 07:37 PM, Link Dupont wrote:
>  I'm packaging a game that uses scons as its build system. The
>  default SConstruct file puts the game binary in /usr/games/%{name},
>  and the data files under /usr/share/games/%{name}. I searched the
>  wiki for usage guidelines around /usr/games, but couldn't find any
>  results that tell me whether /usr/games and /usr/share/games are
>  recommended paths for Fedora.
>  
>  Are /usr/games and /usr/share/games the correct place for games to 
>  install their binary and data, or should I patch the SConstruct
>  file to install into /usr/bin and /usr/share/%{name}?
>   
These guidelines are dated but still valid I think:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Games/Packaging

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[Link Dupont]

On Sun, 2016-01-10 at 19:42 +0100, Antonio Trande wrote:
>  On 01/10/2016 07:37 PM, Link Dupont wrote:
>  > I'm packaging a game that uses scons as its build system. The
>  > default SConstruct file puts the game binary in /usr/games/%{name},
>  > and the data files under /usr/share/games/%{name}. I searched the
>  > wiki for usage guidelines around /usr/games, but couldn't find any
>  > results that tell me whether /usr/games and /usr/share/games are
>  > recommended paths for Fedora.
>  > 
>  > Are /usr/games and /usr/share/games the correct place for games to 
>  > install their binary and data, or should I patch the SConstruct
>  > file to install into /usr/bin and /usr/share/%{name}?
>  > 
>  
>  These guidelines are dated but still valid I think:
>  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Games/Packaging
>  
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Thank you! I must've failed at my search keywords.

[Nico Kadel-Garcia]

On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 11:08 PM, Link Dupont <link(a)fastmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  On Sun, 2016-01-10 at 19:42 +0100, Antonio Trande wrote:
> > On 01/10/2016 07:37 PM, Link Dupont wrote:
> > > I'm packaging a game that uses scons as its build system. The
> > > default SConstruct file puts the game binary in /usr/games/%{name},
> > > and the data files under /usr/share/games/%{name}. I searched the
> > > wiki for usage guidelines around /usr/games, but couldn't find any
> > > results that tell me whether /usr/games and /usr/share/games are
> > > recommended paths for Fedora.
> > >
> > > Are /usr/games and /usr/share/games the correct place for games to
> > > install their binary and data, or should I patch the SConstruct
> > > file to install into /usr/bin and /usr/share/%{name}?
> > >
> >
> > These guidelines are dated but still valid I think:
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Games/Packaging 
It also matches the File Hierarchy System at
http://refspecs.linuxfoundation.org/FHS_3.0/fhs-3.0.pdf .

[Neal Gompa]

On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 10:03 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia <nkadel(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 11:08 PM, Link Dupont
> <link(a)fastmail.com&gt; wrote:
> > On Sun, 2016-01-10 at 19:42 +0100, Antonio Trande wrote:
> >> On 01/10/2016 07:37 PM, Link Dupont wrote:
> >> > I'm packaging a game that uses scons as its build system. The
> >> > default SConstruct file puts the game binary in /usr/games/%{name},
> >> > and the data files under /usr/share/games/%{name}. I searched the
> >> > wiki for usage guidelines around /usr/games, but couldn't find any
> >> > results that tell me whether /usr/games and /usr/share/games are
> >> > recommended paths for Fedora.
> >> >
> >> > Are /usr/games and /usr/share/games the correct place for games to
> >> > install their binary and data, or should I patch the SConstruct
> >> > file to install into /usr/bin and /usr/share/%{name}?
> >> >
> >>
> >> These guidelines are dated but still valid I think:
> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Games/Packaging
>
>  It also matches the File Hierarchy System at
>  http://refspecs.linuxfoundation.org/FHS_3.0/fhs-3.0.pdf . 
/usr/games is still in the spec. Look at page 25 of that PDF.



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[Jens Lody]

Am Tue, 12 Jan 2016 10:10:05 -0500
schrieb Neal Gompa <ngompa13(a)gmail.com&gt;:

>  On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 10:03 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia
>  <nkadel(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
>  > On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 11:08 PM, Link Dupont <link(a)fastmail.com&gt;
>  > wrote:  
>  >> On Sun, 2016-01-10 at 19:42 +0100, Antonio Trande wrote:  
>  >>> On 01/10/2016 07:37 PM, Link Dupont wrote:  
>  >>> > I'm packaging a game that uses scons as its build system. The
>  >>> > default SConstruct file puts the game binary
>  >>> > in /usr/games/%{name}, and the data files
>  >>> > under /usr/share/games/%{name}. I searched the wiki for usage
>  >>> > guidelines around /usr/games, but couldn't find any results
>  >>> > that tell me whether /usr/games and /usr/share/games are
>  >>> > recommended paths for Fedora.
>  >>> >
>  >>> > Are /usr/games and /usr/share/games the correct place for games
>  >>> > to install their binary and data, or should I patch the
>  >>> > SConstruct file to install into /usr/bin and /usr/share/%{name}?
>  >>> >  
>  >>>
>  >>> These guidelines are dated but still valid I think:
>  >>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Games/Packaging  
>  >
>  > It also matches the File Hierarchy System at
>  > http://refspecs.linuxfoundation.org/FHS_3.0/fhs-3.0.pdf .  
>  
>  /usr/games is still in the spec. Look at page 25 of that PDF.
>   
It's only for static data files and it's optional.
That's exactly what the guidelines say, but they also say it's
recommended not to use it for consistency with other packages.

Jens

[Nico Kadel-Garcia]

On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 2:47 PM, Jens Lody <fedora(a)jenslody.de&gt; wrote:
>  Am Tue, 12 Jan 2016 10:10:05 -0500
>  schrieb Neal Gompa <ngompa13(a)gmail.com&gt;:
>
> > On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 10:03 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia
> > <nkadel(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
> > > On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 11:08 PM, Link Dupont <link(a)fastmail.com&gt;
> > > wrote:
> > >> On Sun, 2016-01-10 at 19:42 +0100, Antonio Trande wrote:
> > >>> On 01/10/2016 07:37 PM, Link Dupont wrote:
> > >>> > I'm packaging a game that uses scons as its build system. The
> > >>> > default SConstruct file puts the game binary
> > >>> > in /usr/games/%{name}, and the data files
> > >>> > under /usr/share/games/%{name}. I searched the wiki for usage
> > >>> > guidelines around /usr/games, but couldn't find any results
> > >>> > that tell me whether /usr/games and /usr/share/games are
> > >>> > recommended paths for Fedora.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Are /usr/games and /usr/share/games the correct place for games
> > >>> > to install their binary and data, or should I patch the
> > >>> > SConstruct file to install into /usr/bin and /usr/share/%{name}?
> > >>> >
> > >>>
> > >>> These guidelines are dated but still valid I think:
> > >>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Games/Packaging
> > >
> > > It also matches the File Hierarchy System at
> > > http://refspecs.linuxfoundation.org/FHS_3.0/fhs-3.0.pdf .
> >
> > /usr/games is still in the spec. Look at page 25 of that PDF.
> >
>
>  It's only for static data files and it's optional.
>  That's exactly what the guidelines say, but they also say it's
>  recommended not to use it for consistency with other packages. 
I don't see that recommended against. Given the occasional quite large
size of static game data, keeping it in a separate directory enables
keeping it in a separate partition, which I think is why its a
separate directory.

<DKIM> Packing guidelines around /usr/games

[Nicolas Mailhot]

Hi,

Given that /usr/games does not exist in the FHS, Fedora is supposed to follow this spec,
and /usr/games would not work with standard rpm macros, I'd say /usr/games is out.

Regards,

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