Directory ownership question

[Linux Linux]

Hi,
I package the gogui and pentobi game and i have fall on a directory ownership problem :


    %{_datadir}/thumbnailers/%{name}.thumbnailer
    or /usr/share/thumbnailers  is owned by nobody

    rpm -qf /usr/share/thumbnailers
    le fichier /usr/share/thumbnailers n'appartient à aucun paquetage (package owned
by nobody)


   Or thumbnailers directory has other programms

    ll /usr/share/thumbnailers
    total 28
    drwxr-xr-x.   2 root root  4096 23 nov.  11:31 .
    drwxr-xr-x. 307 root root 12288 12 déc.  14:26 ..
    -rw-r--r--.   1 root root   490 24 avril  2012 evince.thumbnailer
    -rw-r--r--.   1 root root  1304 13 nov.  15:35 gsf-office.thumbnailer
    -rw-r--r--.   1 root root  1731  4 juil.  2012 totem.thumbnailer

Is it normal that this /usr/share/thumbnailers is orphan ?
Need we let him orphan ?

Thanks in advance

-- Chris

[Pavel Zhukov]

Hi, 
Please add 
%dir %{_datadir}/thumbnailers to %files section you can also add 
%{_datadir}/thumbnailers if all files under /thumbnailers should owned
by the package (not separate packages such as devel etc)

-- 
Best regards, Pavel Zhukov 
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On Tue, 08 Jan 2013, Christophe B wrote:

>  Hi,
>  I package the gogui and pentobi game and i have fall on a directory ownership problem :
>  
>  
>      %{_datadir}/thumbnailers/%{name}.thumbnailer
>      or /usr/share/thumbnailers  is owned by nobody
>  
>      rpm -qf /usr/share/thumbnailers
>      le fichier /usr/share/thumbnailers n'appartient à aucun paquetage (package owned
> by nobody)
>  
>  
>     Or thumbnailers directory has other programms
>  
>      ll /usr/share/thumbnailers
>      total 28
>      drwxr-xr-x.   2 root root  4096 23 nov.  11:31 .
>      drwxr-xr-x. 307 root root 12288 12 déc.  14:26 ..
>      -rw-r--r--.   1 root root   490 24 avril  2012 evince.thumbnailer
>      -rw-r--r--.   1 root root  1304 13 nov.  15:35 gsf-office.thumbnailer
>      -rw-r--r--.   1 root root  1731  4 juil.  2012 totem.thumbnailer
>  
>  Is it normal that this /usr/share/thumbnailers is orphan ?
>  Need we let him orphan ?
>  
>  Thanks in advance
>  
>  -- Chris
>  
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[Pierre-Yves Chibon]

On Tue, Jan 08, 2013 at 01:59:34PM +0400, Pavel Zhukov wrote:
>  Hi, 
>  Please add 
>  %dir %{_datadir}/thumbnailers to %files section you can also add 
>  %{_datadir}/thumbnailers if all files under /thumbnailers should owned
>  by the package (not separate packages such as devel etc) 
In this case it means that bugs should be filed against at least evince and
totem (I only checked these two) who have files in this directory but do not own
it.

Regards.
Pierre

[Manuel Wolfshant]

On 01/08/2013 12:08 PM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote:
>  On Tue, Jan 08, 2013 at 01:59:34PM +0400, Pavel Zhukov wrote:
> > Hi,
> > Please add
> > %dir %{_datadir}/thumbnailers to %files section you can also add
> > %{_datadir}/thumbnailers if all files under /thumbnailers should owned
> > by the package (not separate packages such as devel etc)
>  In this case it means that bugs should be filed against at least evince and
>  totem (I only checked these two) who have files in this directory but do not own
>  it. 
Or file a RFE against filesystem to include  %{_datadir}/thumbnailers

[Pierre-Yves Chibon]

On Tue, Jan 08, 2013 at 12:44:56PM +0200, Manuel Wolfshant wrote:
>  On 01/08/2013 12:08 PM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote:
>  >On Tue, Jan 08, 2013 at 01:59:34PM +0400, Pavel Zhukov wrote:
>  >>Hi,
>  >>Please add
>  >>%dir %{_datadir}/thumbnailers to %files section you can also add
>  >>%{_datadir}/thumbnailers if all files under /thumbnailers should owned
>  >>by the package (not separate packages such as devel etc)
>  >In this case it means that bugs should be filed against at least evince and
>  >totem (I only checked these two) who have files in this directory but do not own
>  >it.
>  Or file a RFE against filesystem to include  %{_datadir}/thumbnailers 
This is the alternative and the reason why I asked Christophe to start the
discussion here :)

Pierre

[Ralf Corsepius]

On 01/08/2013 11:50 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote:
>  On Tue, Jan 08, 2013 at 12:44:56PM +0200, Manuel Wolfshant wrote:
> > On 01/08/2013 12:08 PM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote:
> >> On Tue, Jan 08, 2013 at 01:59:34PM +0400, Pavel Zhukov wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>> Please add
> >>> %dir %{_datadir}/thumbnailers to %files section you can also add
> >>> %{_datadir}/thumbnailers if all files under /thumbnailers should owned
> >>> by the package (not separate packages such as devel etc)
> >> In this case it means that bugs should be filed against at least evince and
> >> totem (I only checked these two) who have files in this directory but do not own
> >> it.
> > Or file a RFE against filesystem to include  %{_datadir}/thumbnailers
>
>  This is the alternative 
Exactly.

The general rule of thumb is: Either all packages putting something into 
a directory must own it or all packages must have a common dependency 
owning the directory.

The "one common parent package" approach is easier to use. The 
"everybody must own" approach is more general, clearer, more flexible 
and less error prone approach.

I am clearly in favor of the later.

>  and the reason why I asked Christophe to start the
>  discussion here :) 
Ralf