On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Ralf Corsepius <rc040203(a)freenet.de> wrote:
On Fri, 2008-03-07 at 09:37 +0200, Gabor Szabo wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I see on
http://perl-qa.hexten.net/wiki/index.php/OsloQAWorkshop2008
> that probably non of you is going to participate. That's a pity.
> Anyway I am trying to setup some documentation/system that might help
> all the distros to include more CPAN packages more easily.
>
> For this I setup a page collecting information about the availability of CPAN
> packages in the various distros
http://www.szabgab.com/distributions/
> As you can see Fedora is way underrepresented there.
How did you collect these numbers?
I was using Module::Packaged of Leon (blame him :-) I patched it where I could
but that was almost a year ago. I wish to start it again.
See my most recent source if you have time to point me where to fetch
the data from.
http://svn1.hostlocal.com/szabgab/trunk/Module-Packaged-0.86/
Fedora FC2: 44?
Apart from that this particular distro is dead for many years, the
figure is _way off_ from current status.
My current estimate of CPAN dists in current Fedora is:
# grep perl- owners.fedora.list | wc -l
841
That's in the same range as Ubuntu, Debian and other major Linux
distros.
I guess you counted the number of CPAN dists in FC2's "Fedora Core", not
the number of perl-dists in "Fedora Core 2" + "Fedora Extra 2".
probably that's what the module is doing. I think both should be counted and
maybe we should also mark which module is where.
Also, I don't know what you count as "module". Perl in
Fedora without
any doubt has evolved sufficiently long to justify boldly claiming
"most essential vital modules/dists to be in Fedora" and only "rarely
needed modules" (minus those with legal issues) to be missing.
I wish to count CPAN distros (that is tar.gz files from CPAN).
I really have no idea how a distro can be claimed to be supporting
8000+
perl-dists, nor how useful such a distro would be. My wild guess is they
are counting differently or contain a lot of duplicated CPAN modules.
There are some 13.000 on CPAN so 8000+ is still less than 2/3.
> What if you could have a "wishlist" that you could
present to CPAN module
> authors? What would that contain? What would make life easier for those
> who package CPAN modules for Fedora?
In decreasing priority:
- Improve your versioning scheme - perl's versioning doesn't harmonize
well with rpm's versioning.
Can you elaborate - give a few short examples or at least point me
where is it described?
- Think about the licenses you apply. Write Free software.
Do you have examples you encountered where it is not so on CPAN?
- Write better code. There is a lot of junk in CPAN.
Wow, do you have a suggestion how to automatically measure this?
Gabor