[Bug 2041430] New: [RFC] Drop support for mod_perl in F36+/EL9+

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2041430

Bug ID: 2041430
           Summary: [RFC] Drop support for mod_perl in F36+/EL9+
           Product: Fedora
           Version: rawhide
            Status: NEW
         Component: perl-Plack
          Assignee: [e-mail]
          Reporter: [e-mail]
        QA Contact: [e-mail]
                CC: [e-mail], [e-mail],
                    [e-mail], [e-mail],
                    [e-mail], [e-mail]
  Target Milestone: ---
    Classification: Fedora

Hi Ralf,

As you know, I'll take care of building perl-Plack in EPEL 9. One of the
dependency is mod_perl, which won't make it to EPEL 9 and is marked as
abandoned/unsupported for Fedora in the specfile.

I'd like to suggest the following tuning to the rawhide branch specfile.
It disables mod_perl support for both el9+, but I thought it might make sense
to also disable it in F36+. I'd like to get this or a variation of this in
rawhide so one can keep a non-diverging history in the epel9 branch.

I'll submit a proper PR once you gave me your thoughts on this approach.

"""

# Build with mod_perl support for Apache HTTP server version 2.
 # Abandoned/Unsupported in Fedora.
+%if 0%{?rhel} >= 9 || 0%{?fedora} >= 36
+%bcond_with perl_Plack_enables_httpd2
+%else
 %bcond_without perl_Plack_enables_httpd2
+%endif

# Recommends IPv6 support to HTTP::Server::PSGI embedded web server
 %bcond_without perl_Plack_enables_ipv6
"""

Regards,
Xavier

[Bug 2041430] [RFC] Drop support for mod_perl in F36+/EL9+

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Ralf Corsepius  changed:

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--- Comment #1 from Ralf Corsepius  ---
No way!!! mod_perl is a key component of rt.

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--- Comment #2 from Xavier Bachelot  ---
Ok, I should have known about that. So I'll remove Fedora from the conditional
to keep only EL9, I trust this should be fine with you.

Although, you made me curious so I took a look at RT doc, and there are
alternatives to mod_perl, which might be worth be looked into at some point if
mod_perl is tagged as unsupported/abandoned in Fedora.
RT 4.4 doc mentions fastcgi, while RT 5.0 doc mentions mod_fcgid.

https://docs.bestpractical.com/rt/4.4.5/README.html
https://docs.bestpractical.com/rt/5.0.2/README.html

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--- Comment #3 from Petr Pisar  ---
I will be more than happy to give maintainership of mod_perl to someone indeed
interested in it. Ralf, if you need mod_perl, I can transfer the package to
you.

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--- Comment #4 from Emmanuel Seyman  ---
FTR, I was setting up RT to run using psgi back in 2013...

[Bug 2041430] [RFC] Drop support for mod_perl in F36+/EL9+

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--- Comment #5 from Ralf Corsepius  ---
(In reply to Emmanuel Seyman from comment #4)
> FTR, I was setting up RT to run using psgi back in 2013...

I repeatedly tried, but I have never been able to get this working and repeatly
asked for assistance.

Would it be possible for you to pass on some docs/how-tos rsp. your patches to
me?

(In reply to Xavier Bachelot from comment #2)
> Although, you made me curious so I took a look at RT doc, and there are
> alternatives to mod_perl, which might be worth be looked into at some point
> if mod_perl is tagged as unsupported/abandoned in Fedora.
> RT 4.4 doc mentions fastcgi, while RT 5.0 doc mentions mod_fcgid.

Something for me to investigate.

All I can say for now: rt4+fastcgi had been a dysfunctional mess for a long
time. May-be the situation has changed? I don't know.

While we're at it: I am eagerly waiting for somebody to review:

These 2 block rt-5:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2016587
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2039193

And this one blocks me from upgrading perl-MooX-late (Deep in rt's dep chain).
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2016580

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--- Comment #6 from Xavier Bachelot  ---
I've filed https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/perl-Plack/pull-request/2.

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Ludek Smid  changed:

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         Resolution|---                         |EOL
             Status|NEW                         |CLOSED
        Last Closed|                            |2023-05-25 18:26:33

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