PHP 8 for Fedora 34?

[Neal Gompa]

Hey all,

So now that PHP 8 has been released[1], are we going to have it in Fedora 34?

It seems that we have reasonably decent compatibility for
extensions[2] already...

[1]: https://www.php.net/releases/8.0/en.php
[2]: https://blog.remirepo.net/pages/PECL-extensions-RPM-status

[Remi Collet]

Le 30/11/2020 à 14:25, Neal Gompa a écrit :
> Hey all,
>
> So now that PHP 8 has been released[1], are we going to have it in Fedora 34?
>
> It seems that we have reasonably decent compatibility for
> extensions[2] already...

For major version (as it was done for PHP 7),
I'm used to give a bit more time so everything will be ready
(extensions and libraries)

So rather for F 35

I don't think anything already "requires" PHP 8

Perhaps, user requests may convince me to do differently

And modularity... blah.... blah... blah...

Perhaps RHEL 8.x will have it before Fedora ;)

Remi

[Neal Gompa]

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 8:45 AM Remi Collet  wrote:
> Le 30/11/2020 à 14:25, Neal Gompa a écrit :
> > Hey all,
> >
> > So now that PHP 8 has been released[1], are we going to have it in Fedora 34?
> >
> > It seems that we have reasonably decent compatibility for
> > extensions[2] already...
>
> For major version (as it was done for PHP 7),
> I'm used to give a bit more time so everything will be ready
> (extensions and libraries)
>
> So rather for F 35
>
> I don't think anything already "requires" PHP 8
>
> Perhaps, user requests may convince me to do differently

I would certainly like to see PHP 8 in Fedora 34 if we could. Do we
know how many of the extensions in Fedora are in good or bad shape?
> And modularity... blah.... blah... blah...
>
> Perhaps RHEL 8.x will have it before Fedora ;)

Well, that's why I want it in Fedora now, so that I can start using it
in Fedora and that it goes through the normal Fedora->RHEL pipeline.
:)

--
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[Remi Collet]

Le 30/11/2020 à 15:03, Neal Gompa a écrit :
> I would certainly like to see PHP 8 in Fedora 34 if we could. Do we
> know how many of the extensions in Fedora are in good or bad shape?

To be removed

- php-pecl-apcu-bc (old compat ext)
    - php-pecl-couchbase2 (but php-pecl-couchbase3 in the pipe)
    - php-pecl-xdebug (but php-pecl-xdebug3 is already there)
    - php-pecl-propro (no more needed)

Patches exist but no release yet

amqp
    fann
    geoip
    geos
    imagick
    memcached
    rrd
    smbclient
    ssdeep
    ssh2
    xmldiff
    yac
    zmq

Not yet compatible

gearman
    gmagick
    libvirt
    memcache
    radius
    timecop
    uopz

Remi

[Neal Gompa]

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 9:44 AM Remi Collet  wrote:
> Le 30/11/2020 à 15:03, Neal Gompa a écrit :
> > I would certainly like to see PHP 8 in Fedora 34 if we could. Do we
> > know how many of the extensions in Fedora are in good or bad shape?
>
> To be removed
>     - php-pecl-apcu-bc (old compat ext)
>     - php-pecl-couchbase2 (but php-pecl-couchbase3 in the pipe)
>     - php-pecl-xdebug (but php-pecl-xdebug3 is already there)
>     - php-pecl-propro (no more needed)
>
> Patches exist but no release yet
>     amqp
>     fann
>     geoip
>     geos
>     imagick
>     memcached
>     rrd
>     smbclient
>     ssdeep
>     ssh2
>     xmldiff
>     yac
>     zmq
>
> Not yet compatible
>     gearman
>     gmagick
>     libvirt
>     memcache
>     radius
>     timecop
>     uopz

That sounds achievable then. Could we try to have this for Fedora 34
then? At least then I can start talking to libvirt folks about porting
to PHP 8.

[Remi Collet]

Le 04/12/2020 à 00:48, Neal Gompa a écrit :
> That sounds achievable then. Could we try to have this for Fedora 34
> then?

This seems too short for me (we also have >600 libraries and some 
applications which probably need work, perhaps a bit cleanup will
have to happen, removing old dead projects)

And don't forget, I'm mostly alone to work on this ;)

My plan is

- submit change proposal for F35 ASAP
- import 8.0.x in rawhide after F34 branching, so in only 2 months
> At least then I can start talking to libvirt folks about porting
> to PHP 8.

I don't see any reason to not ask "now", PHP 8 exists.
and method exists to install it on various distributions.

Remi

P.S. and about libvirt, I had very bad experience with 7.x compatibility 
and don't plan to give any time to this project for 8.x