Are OldWorld Macs still supported?

[Bob Deblier]

Hi,

I've recently (Sep 04 2004) downloaded the Fedora development boot iso
and tried it on my old PowerMac 7300. After burning the image, I've
copied the kernel and ramdisk to HD and tried booting through BootX. 

The system produces some output on the display but does not start any
form of installation procedure - it just sits there.

Is this kernel/ramdisk version (2.6.8-1.541) supposed to work on
OldWorld Macs? If yes, let me know, so that I can file a bug report.

Thanks,

Bob Deblier

[Paul Nasrat]

On Wed, Sep 22, 2004 at 02:19:55PM +0200, Bob Deblier wrote:
>  Hi,
>  
>  I've recently (Sep 04 2004) downloaded the Fedora development boot iso
>  and tried it on my old PowerMac 7300. After burning the image, I've
>  copied the kernel and ramdisk to HD and tried booting through BootX. 
>  
>  The system produces some output on the display but does not start any
>  form of installation procedure - it just sits there. 
Where does it get to?  What messages occur?

>  Is this kernel/ramdisk version (2.6.8-1.541) supposed to work on
>  OldWorld Macs? If yes, let me know, so that I can file a bug report. 
It's not really something we've tried and tested.  It may be worth looking at
if YDL uses seperate configs for old/new world  if not then it may just be
something we're missing.  IIRC the kernel for oldworld/newworld on ydl should
be the same.

Paul

[Colin Charles]

On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 22:28, Paul Nasrat wrote:

>  > Is this kernel/ramdisk version (2.6.8-1.541) supposed to work
> on
>  > OldWorld Macs? If yes, let me know, so that I can file a bug report.
>  
>  It's not really something we've tried and tested.  It may be worth looking at
>  if YDL uses seperate configs for old/new world  if not then it may just be
>  something we're missing.  IIRC the kernel for oldworld/newworld on ydl should
>  be the same. 
YDL4 will not be running on OldWorld hardware (officially).

Might want to bootstrap with an older YDL, then go all the way up to
Fedora from there. Referencing to:
http://lists.terrasoftsolutions.com/pipermail/yellowdog-general/2004-Augu...

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[Bob Deblier]

On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 14:28, Paul Nasrat wrote:
>  > The system produces some output on the display but does not
> start any
>  > form of installation procedure - it just sits there.
>  
>  Where does it get to?  What messages occur? 
If I set my display (AppleVision 1710) to 1024x768x15, the systems gets
stuck at after the following output [just noticed that if I wait long
enough, the system reboots]:

 Welcome to Linux, kernel 2.6.8-1.541

 linked at        : 0xc0000000
 frame buffer at  : 0x94c00210  (phys), 0xd0c00210  (log)
 klimit           : 0xc07cf000
 MSR              : 0x00000072
 HID0             : 0x8000c084

 pmac_init(): ext
 id mach(): done
 MMU:enter
 MMU:hw init
 hash:enter
 hash:find piece
 hash:patch
 hash:done
 MMU:mapin
 MMU:setio
 setup_arch:enter
 setup_arch:bootmem
 arch:ext

Further testing show that any display mode which is not 24-bits freezes
here (until the system reboots after a few minutes).

Any display mode which is 24-bits depth continues past this to a black
screen with Tux icon, then after about 5 seconds goes totally black (and
doesn't reboot).

It might be something as simple as a corrupt video driver for this
particular system.

Specifying kernel parameter 'text' doesn't help - as the text system
still needs the framebuffer.

>  > Is this kernel/ramdisk version (2.6.8-1.541) supposed to work
> on
>  > OldWorld Macs? If yes, let me know, so that I can file a bug report.
>  
>  It's not really something we've tried and tested.  It may be worth looking at
>  if YDL uses seperate configs for old/new world  if not then it may just be
>  something we're missing.  IIRC the kernel for oldworld/newworld on ydl should
>  be the same.
>  
>  Paul 
YellowDog 3.0 with kernel 2.4.20 runs fine on this machine.

I'm willing to spend some time to help test this - if you have any
concrete items to check, please let me know.

Thanks,

Bob