Fedora Core 3 works on the Mac Mini

[Mike MacCana]

(reposted, as I forgot to confirm my list subscription first)

Fedora Core 3 works on the Mac Mini. Went through Colin's instructions
last night and got it installed. X, Apple Bluetooth Mouse and Keyboard,
dual booting, DVD playing, etc. all work seamlessly. Thanks for all your
work.

Some questions:
1. Colin, I'm gonna send you a diff of your instructions to contain
stuff for Mini users, as well as clear some things up I found confusing.
Before I finish, though, I have to know: is the boot.iso askmethod
install mandatory for all installs? I did a network install for various
reasons.

2. Wade: installed system-config-soundcard-1.2.10-2wm (thanks for your
work), the soundcard is detected (the tools says it'll use snd_powermac)
but I can't hear anything when the test sound is played (I hear there's
something weird with volume control on the card - maybe that's it?). On
the console, I get
'amixer: Mixer attach default error: No such device'
I know this sounds silly, but running strace doesn't seem to show the
device its looking for. Maybe I'm blind.

Mike

[Colin Charles]

On Sun, 2005-02-06 at 23:15 +1100, Mike MacCana wrote:
>  Fedora Core 3 works on the Mac Mini. Went through Colin's
> instructions
>  last night and got it installed. X, Apple Bluetooth Mouse and Keyboard,
>  dual booting, DVD playing, etc. all work seamlessly. Thanks for all your
>  work. 
Rock! We have a kernel that works

Was this rawhide or FC-3 (fedorappc release)?

>  Some questions:
>  1. Colin, I'm gonna send you a diff of your instructions to contain
>  stuff for Mini users, as well as clear some things up I found confusing.
>  Before I finish, though, I have to know: is the boot.iso askmethod
>  install mandatory for all installs? I did a network install for various
>  reasons. 
Sure, diff away.

Not really; linux askmethod was so we could get CDROM installs going. I
think we need to fix anaconda, so the doco in place at hte moment makes
room for that

>  2. Wade: installed system-config-soundcard-1.2.10-2wm (thanks for
> your
>  work), the soundcard is detected (the tools says it'll use snd_powermac)
>  but I can't hear anything when the test sound is played (I hear there's
>  something weird with volume control on the card - maybe that's it?). On
>  the console, I get
>  'amixer: Mixer attach default error: No such device'
>  I know this sounds silly, but running strace doesn't seem to show the
>  device its looking for. Maybe I'm blind. 
What does your /etc/modprobe.conf look for sound? Paste the output here
-- 
Colin Charles, byte(a)aeon.com.my
http://www.bytebot.net/
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, 
then you win." -- Mohandas Gandhi

[Mike MacCana]

Colin Charles wrote:

> On Sun, 2005-02-06 at 23:15 +1100, Mike MacCana wrote:
>   
>
> >Fedora Core 3 works on the Mac Mini. Went through Colin's instructions
> >last night and got it installed. X, Apple Bluetooth Mouse and Keyboard,
> >dual booting, DVD playing, etc. all work seamlessly. Thanks for all your
> >work.
> >    
> >
>
> Rock! We have a kernel that works
>
> Was this rawhide or FC-3 (fedorappc release)?
>   
>  
Stock FC3 (well, FC 2.91 test) as specified in your doco.

>   
>
> >Some questions:
> >1. Colin, I'm gonna send you a diff of your instructions to contain
> >stuff for Mini users, as well as clear some things up I found confusing.
> >Before I finish, though, I have to know: is the boot.iso askmethod
> >install mandatory for all installs? I did a network install for various
> >reasons.
> >    
> >
>
> Sure, diff away.
>
> Not really; linux askmethod was so we could get CDROM installs going. I
> think we need to fix anaconda, so the doco in place at hte moment makes
> room for that
>   
>  
Cool. I'll focus on doing a regular instal then (but also show how to do 
a network install in a seperate section).

>   
>
> >2. Wade: installed system-config-soundcard-1.2.10-2wm (thanks for your
> >work), the soundcard is detected (the tools says it'll use snd_powermac)
> >but I can't hear anything when the test sound is played (I hear there's
> >something weird with volume control on the card - maybe that's it?). On
> >the console, I get
> >'amixer: Mixer attach default error: No such device'
> >I know this sounds silly, but running strace doesn't seem to show the
> >device its looking for. Maybe I'm blind.
> >    
> >
>
> What does your /etc/modprobe.conf look for sound? Paste the output here
>   
>  
hahahaha. I just looked inside it - it seems s-c-s may have a bug where 
it keeps writing the same post module load scripts over and over again...

install snd_powermac /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd_powermac && 
/usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 ||:
remove snd_powermac { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; 
/sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd_powermac
install snd_powermac /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd_powermac && 
/usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 ||:
remove snd_powermac { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; 
/sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd_powermac
install snd_powermac /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd_powermac && 
/usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 ||:
remove snd_powermac { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; 
/sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd_powermac
install snd_powermac /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd_powermac && 
/usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 ||:
remove snd_powermac { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; 
/sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd_powermac
alias snd-card-0 snd_powermac
install snd_powermac /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd_powermac && 
/usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 ||:
remove snd_powermac { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; }; 
/sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd_powermac

Might get rid of the duplicates and retest...

Mike

[Colin Charles]

On Wed, 2005-02-09 at 16:31 +1100, Mike MacCana wrote:
>  >Not really; linux askmethod was so we could get CDROM installs
> going.
>  I
>  >think we need to fix anaconda, so the doco in place at hte moment
>  makes
>  >room for that
>  >  
>  >
>  Cool. I'll focus on doing a regular instal then (but also show how to
>  do 
>  a network install in a seperate section). 
Seeing that we don't have a regular install _yet_, lets refocus at the
moment, and work towards getting Rawhide going

/me is syncing a tree now - OOo i18n is taking ages to come thru
-- 
Colin Charles, byte(a)aeon.com.my
http://www.bytebot.net/
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, 
then you win." -- Mohandas Gandhi

[Mike MacCana]

Colin Charles wrote:

> On Wed, 2005-02-09 at 16:31 +1100, Mike MacCana wrote:
>   
>
> >>Not really; linux askmethod was so we could get CDROM installs going.
> >>      
> >>
> >I
> >    
> >
> >>think we need to fix anaconda, so the doco in place at hte moment
> >>      
> >>
> >makes
> >    
> >
> >>room for that
> >> 
> >>
> >>      
> >>
> >Cool. I'll focus on doing a regular instal then (but also show how to
> >do 
> >a network install in a seperate section).
> >    
> >
>
> Seeing that we don't have a regular install _yet_, lets refocus at the
> moment, and work towards getting Rawhide going
>   
>  
I was talking about the focus of the documentation - personally I was 
thinking of lowering the bar to entry by making it easy to get Fedora 
onto people's systems, using simple documentation and the current ISOs 
(with exceptions for G5 users). This has the benefit of getting a whole 
lot of beta testers and hopefully contributors on board. What do you reckon?

Haha OOo-i18n. My favorite package to up2date. While I'm at it - Colin, 
do you know much about OOo and iWork interoperability? Does iWork use 
OASIS or is there / will there be XSLT to convert the different formats?

Mike

[Colin Charles]

On Wed, 2005-02-09 at 17:05 +1100, Mike MacCana wrote:
>  I was talking about the focus of the documentation - personally I was
>
>  thinking of lowering the bar to entry by making it easy to get Fedora 
>  onto people's systems, using simple documentation and the current
>  ISOs 
>  (with exceptions for G5 users). This has the benefit of getting a
>  whole 
>  lot of beta testers and hopefully contributors on board. What do you
>  reckon? 
Okay. If you find the steps are confusing, fix them, thanks :)

>  Haha OOo-i18n. My favorite package to up2date. While I'm at it -
>  Colin, 
>  do you know much about OOo and iWork interoperability? Does iWork use 
>  OASIS or is there / will there be XSLT to convert the different
>  formats? 
Never tried iWork, but if I do get a chance to give it a twirl, I'd take
a gander. Doubt it uses OASIS XML standards. But if it were XML, we
could get XSLT stuff going on

Now, time to buy iWork or something. Bah
(or check my mail, since devels tend to get it posted to them, iirc)
-- 
Colin Charles, byte(a)aeon.com.my
http://www.bytebot.net/
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, 
then you win." -- Mohandas Gandhi

[Wade Mealing]

>  install snd_powermac /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd_powermac
> &&
>  /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 ||:
>  remove snd_powermac { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; };
>  /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd_powermac
>  install snd_powermac /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd_powermac &&
>  /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 ||:
>  remove snd_powermac { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; };
>  /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd_powermac
>  install snd_powermac /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd_powermac &&
>  /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 ||:
>  remove snd_powermac { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; };
>  /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd_powermac
>  install snd_powermac /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd_powermac &&
>  /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 ||:
>  remove snd_powermac { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; };
>  /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd_powermac
>  alias snd-card-0 snd_powermac
>  install snd_powermac /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd_powermac &&
>  /usr/sbin/alsactl restore >/dev/null 2>&1 ||:
>  remove snd_powermac { /usr/sbin/alsactl store >/dev/null 2>&1 || : ; };
>  /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd_powermac
>   
I think this is a byproduct of the way that I've modified
system-config-soundcard.  When i get some time i'll hack on this.  I
still dont know python.