On 08/13/2016 05:26 AM, Tim Orling wrote:
Hi all.
Somehow, between a week of vacation with my Dad and reading Miro's email for the third or fourth time I have come to an epiphany...
Let us clean the slate and start over. Light some cedar and sandalwood incense. Assume the lotus pose and clang your finger symbols. Breathe deep. Think good thoughts. Life is good.
Hi. I'm Tim, although I prefer to be known as "Timo (Teem-OH)".
Hi Timo! Welcome!
Could you put your preferred name in your e-mail signature? At least that's where I look for proper spelling of people's names :)
I've been using Fedora since before it was called Fedora Core. I care a lot about __quality__ python packaging in Fedora, in part because my job depends on it working flawlessly, but also because I just think python is an awesome language. I evangelize about it to anybody that will listen. I am responsible for Fedora working flawlessly for my global team and our larger community (in which many many people prefer to use Fedora). This can be "fun" when new Fedora releases come out. gcc-6 by default for example. It usually takes a week or two of somebody's time (now mine) to get it all working ok again. All of our build tools are based on python. We recently finished our migration to python3 which makes me very happy.
Congratulations!
I have a couple python projects I'd like to contribute to Fedora. The two that come to mind are rethinkdb and robotframework (which will be many sub-packages as well). Maybe I'll come up with more.
What's the status of rethinkdb and robotframework? Can we help getting these in?
I am an active member of the IronPython community and perhaps that means I can help with mono support in Fedora.
That sounds interesting! I admit I don't know much about IronPython. Would you care elaborating a bit on your plans regarding IronPython in Fedora?
In particular, I want to drive IronPython to be python3 ready. I need to learn how to become an __expert__ python packager for Fedora. I also want to help with the inevitable fires that come up. I read the mailing list daily (hourly?) and get all the notifications about python packages in Fedora. I guess I don't know where to start helping effectively.
Helping effectively depends a lot on your area of interest. How do *you* want to make Fedora better? Packaging rethinkdb/robotframework seems like it would be a good start.
Then there are always things others would like help with in their quest to make Fedora better. For example, in the Python 3 effort, there's a tracking bug for cases where the packager doesn't have time to do the Python3 port. Some of the bugs there need expert skills, for some it's just that the packager doesn't have time: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1333765 If you'd just like to help others but don't know where to start, this list is a good place to ask.
As for the inevitable fires, unless it's an embargoed security issues there should be a public bug on Bugzilla, and usually a flurry of activity on this list or IRC. See the recent majorver-provides discussion for example.
I'm hoping to work with the members of python-sig to learn the ropes and join the team. I am not just curious, I am determined. Driven even. I would like to take that energy and apply it to python-sig. I look forward to getting to know you all and working for a long time with you.
Welcome to the Python SIG!
Cheers.
--Tim
P.S. I'm not sure who this email will actually reach, so please forward to the right list if you have permissions. I'm not going to clutter python-dev with it anymore. No more negative energy. Life is good.
Well, python-devel is the right list for this post. Sorry for the misunderstandings earlier.