On 16. 06. 23 9:57, Bastien Nocera wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jun 2023 at 09:48, Miro Hrončok <mhroncok@redhat.com mailto:mhroncok@redhat.com> wrote:
On 16. 06. 23 9:41, Bastien Nocera wrote: > Scolding people that haven't seen your original message for limitations in the > build system isn't nice. Apologies for not being nice enough. However, we need to notify the folks who do that and ask them to stop, because as you say, the system is not perfect. If you have specific suggestions, please speak up.Yes, tell folks that they might have missed an email instead of sending a scolding " Please, don't do that."
Thanks for the suggestion. I honestly had no idea that "please, don't do that" could be considered unfriendly, but I hope that's language/cultural barrier (rather than me being a sociopath). I've adjusted my wording in the followup emails.
> I fixed my missing the devel-announce email by subscribing to the list (though > this should probably be implemented somewhere in the accounts system) but I'm > afraid I cannot do anything about the build system not allowing for specific > blocking of builds in circumstances such as yours. I kindly ask you not to submit rawhide builds of packages that have been already built in our side tag, until the side tag is merged. If you cannot do that, I kindly ask you not to build any packages until the side tag is merged. Unfortunately, asking people is the only thing I am able to do.I'm talking about limitations in the build system that don't allow you to automatically do what you're trying to get *people* to do instead.
People are fallible, and filing an RFE for the build system would go some way to shifting the burden to a computer.
This has actually been discussed on this list several times already, but Fabio was kind enough to file that RFE today:
https://pagure.io/koji/issue/3847
That said, most of Fedora's RFEs to Koji that would make things easier for packagers seem to linger, presumably due to capacity reasons.
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Miro Hrončok